, the rest is using the
standard Debian packaging tools.
If anyone knows about a more elegant way than the dummy configure
file, I'd be also interested in it :-)
Why not take the commands in your dummy configure script and just put them
directly into debian/rules?
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Build-Depends: debhelper (= 6.0.7~)
what is that tilde doing there? (lintian should probably warn about it)
It allows the package to build with backports of debhelper 6.0.7.
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current version of libtool was used. These sorts of bugs unfortunately
are the kind that can be hidden or cause weird failures. I really think
this one should be fixed.
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It would be nice if there were some way of telling the archive software
not to include this package in the archive index on the platforms it
doesn't support, though.
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The sort there isn't entirely correct; you really want to do a dpkg
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the right solution, since it also breaks invoking debian/rules as a
makefile instead of as an executable.
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 02:06:09PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
If the -B flag is necessary, this will require a change in Debian Policy;
currently, the above arguably violates a must. I'm inclined to think this
isn't the right solution, since it also breaks invoking debian
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes:
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I really think this is a bug in make.
Probably, but who knows. It could just be a misfeature on which ghod
knows what somehow depends.
.PHONY: precompiled-binary-we-cannot-regenerate-with-gcc.o
It feels like the next step is to ask
.
Lintian should also warn about this, though, even on i386.
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inetd can already do all that for you.
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${source:Version} as appropriate (introduced in dpkg 1.13.19, released
with etch). Support for ${Source-Version} may be removed from dpkg-dev
in the future.
Is that still unclear?
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address portion is not part of the notices that the GPL requires be
maintained.
If it is not required to be verbatim in ‘debian/copyright’, then why
include it at all?
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to a non-free build-dependency.
That would mean it should go into contrib, which is for DFSG-free things
that can't be built or used without non-free bits.
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That would mean it should go into contrib, which is for DFSG-free
things that can't be built or used without non-free bits.
I'm actually considering using a postinst script to tell the user
/var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.postinst, and then it doesn't exit on error, it's
surprising and can be dangerous.
It's an unusual situation, which is why it's only tagged with --pedantic.
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I used to write my makefiles that way too. It's hard to shake the feeling
that there should be a slash in there.
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to omit the
version number if you expect not to need it. I plan on starting to omit
the version number after dfsg in the next upstream release for some of my
repackaged source packages where the repackaging has been stable for quite
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as an additional line of code when making that change, correct? (I
personally prefer to ship a replacement strlcpy function rather than
using strncpy, since the strncpy semantics are rather broken.)
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strlcat, but may not end the buffer with \r\n.
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LTLIBOBJS in the list of objects that go into the shared library in your
Makefile.am.
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ftp.protocol~
README~
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I'd put that information in debian/copyright instead. (What you have
sounds fine, or you could just say that you removed rfc4217.txt for DFSG
reasons and, since you were repackaging the source anyway, removed all
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I'm with Ben; I try to summarize major changes for all of my packages
that are likely to affect users in the Debian changelog. I don't always
manage, but I try.
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I'd like to make it clear that I'm just brainstorming here and that at
this stage, I'm not really concerned with the feasibility of the ideas.
I'm just doing a what if thing.
Oh, sure, totally understood.
On May 02 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Lintian
be a little
annoying.
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Given that anyone can upload packages to mentors, this seems like a
fairly worrisome security risk.
Why that? It may be implemented as the current Debian buildd network.
OpenSuSE is also providing such a buildd service
packages but throw
them away so I'd like to have mentors do something similar.
This seems like a good idea to me too.
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PKG_CHECK_MODULES([PKGNAME], [glib])
AC_SUBST([PKGNAME_CFLAGS])
AC_SUBST([PKGNAME_LIBS])
It doesn't matter until one day it does and you get bizarre and obscure
error messages and corrupted shell scripts and spend hours trying to
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Just to double-check: did you already know the background on this?
The gnus Debian package is not really recommended for most users.
Most users of Gnus are probably better off not installing the gnus
Debian package
. For some reason, the package still
contains the directory even though you've removed it from debian/dirs.
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next if /^Record size =/;
next if /^Skipping to next header/;
-next if /^gpg: /;
+next if /^gpgv?: /;
next if /^secmem usage: /;
next if /^Exiting with failure status due to previous errors/;
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version. Is this also an internal
symbol or was it part of the published API?
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99% of users will want either MIT or Heimdal instead).
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was only questioning because
you'd said to raise the priority from extra to optional, and this didn't
seem like a package where we'd want to make a special effort to move it
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dh_installdeb before dh_shlibdeps fixed it; it wasn't me
who wrote that debian/rules and I have no idea whether it used to work.
It looks like dh runs dh_shlibdeps before dh_installdeb, so I would have
expected more people to run into this.
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directory already exists
(I can't find a mkdir anywhere and it writes to the shlibs file there),
and I can't figure out where earlier in the calling sequence the DEBIAN
directory would be made.
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this even if upstream
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more straightforward and less confusing for users and software.
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be written in *roff. Maybe you accidentally installed the output rather
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why is it there and what does it do?
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Erik de Castro Lopo mle+deb...@mega-nerd.com writes:
Russ Allbery wrote:
What *is* the content of the file? In other words, more
fundamentally, why is it there and what does it do?
Its a haskell interface definition file. When ghc6 compiles the
Haskell source code file License.hs
Erik de Castro Lopo mle+deb...@mega-nerd.com writes:
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Yeah, that sounds like a good Lintian exception.
I see no good reason to make lintian aware of this particular
exception. It might however make sense to make lintian ignore any file
named license* if that file
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will not cause this problem. There's
something else wrong.
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in the *.diff.gz that may cause build problems.
This sounds like a problem with your local build environment, not with
the package.
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want to call it on upgrade normally, but there isn't a similar case for
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repository?
It will preclude it from being uploaded to Debian proper. It will not
preclude it from being available from a private apt repository.
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Another option would be to install the extra man page data into a
/usr/share/package directory and then modify the man page to include it
via its full path instead of expecting it to live in the man directory
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Please upload again with that fixed and I'll sponsor this. Thank you for
your work on the package!
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Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br writes:
On Aug 03 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br writes:
I have one off-topic comment: I've seen some well known maintainers
do some things without the rigor that mentors apply to prospective
maintainers.
Yes. It's a little
not be called PHP, nor
may PHP appear in their name, without prior written permission
from gr...@php.net. You may indicate that your software works in
conjunction with PHP by saying Foo for PHP instead of calling
it PHP Foo or phpfoo
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Michal Čihař ni...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org napsal(a):
We had a specific request for Lintian to not warn about UNRELEASED as
the distribution so that people could run it on each build and know
that any output meant a problem. Unfortunately, that creates
enough to write a Lintian check. I'll file a bug so that I
don't forget.
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is going
wrong).
I suspect that the upstream makefiles don't rebuild the info documents by
default. That's not uncommon. Check to see if there's an additional
makefile target that will do so (and build-depend on texinfo, of course).
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the impact you want with the least customization to
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covered by checks that many people disagree with. wild-guess certainty
doesn't make checks pendantic, only downgrades them to info.
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On Oct 29 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
That was actually most of the point of pedantic. Minor possible bugs
that aren't stylistic belong in info instead. That's why both of them
are suppressed by default.
OK. Nice. Please keep them there. We can just
, reporting here what libraries
your program is trying to link against should help in narrowing it down.
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seems polite and I know as a user it makes debian/changelog more useful to
me than a bunch of bare New upstream release lines when trying to track
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that it would if it were
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Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes:
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You would have needed to take it up with Joseph Ossanna and Brian
Kernighan, since *roff has worked this way since the beginning of the
formatting language.
Note that “blame the makers of groff” is *not* what
be taken to avoid clashes
between different encodings used in the same file).
This should actually work with current versions of groff as well, but I
haven't experimented with it a lot myself, so I don't know what problem
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the markup doesn't pollute my view.
Yup. :) And there's a nice Emacs mode for POD that does coloration and
whatnot. (There is for *roff as well, but I hate typing *roff directly.)
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Unless you are doing something _really_ weird and changing the version
per-binary?
If you're changing the version per-binary (some packages do this), then
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It seems like the best first step would be for you to offer to join the
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potentially providing you with direct commit access to their repository
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seems to indicate it still doesn't work even if you run groff -T utf8 in a
UTF-8 locale.
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characters. It's the
best solution for European characters, but a quick skim doesn't show a
way to enter an arbitrary UTF-8 code point.
So, not good. :/
It might be worth raising this on debian-devel, since it's been a sore
point in UTF-8 support for a while.
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all of its input at the moment are in other character sets.
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right now, since currently those code points are
disallowed.
I'd love to see this dealt with for lenny. I just don't know how
realistic that is.
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if upstream puts such things into
makefile variables.
If they don't, you have to patch the Makefile.
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wonder if that's what Red Hat uses or
if they transcode as well and just lose on man pages that contain
non-European characters.
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together on a whim, the Perl module has
been amazingly popular, seems to be used all over the place, and is now
included in Perl core, so there's some indication that people really do
like having this sort of functionality.
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{FF01}-\x{FF60});
but even that is not a particularly good approximation compared to using
the real table.
My guess is that wcwidth's answer is based on the latest version of that
table at the time that glibc released, although I'd have to double-check
to be sure.
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and find out?
It's a bug that's annoying to try to fix and probably not worth the
effort. make *really* doesn't like spaces in filenames in various
contexts.
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reasonable to me. It is a standard,
and it's not like they change or are system-dependent.
Yes, there are terminals that don't implement those standards. How many
of them are used by anyone other than hobbyists as part of computer
archeology?
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 12:38:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(no point in hardcoding a few dozen string definitions, unless one
_likes_ the nasty comments that people make when they read the code ;-)
I took
with the next release of Policy.
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by your copyright. And that's fine.
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