Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread c.buhtz
On 2024-03-29 15:34 weepingclown wrote: > As I understand it, the current > problem we have is more about the wiki being less organized than > there not being sufficient resources or them not being easily > accessible to everyone. Correct. The information is there. But the linkage between them

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread c.buhtz
On 2024-03-29 14:48 Carsten Schoenert wrote: > BTW: I posted my way on how I created a new Python package for Debian > in the German Debian forum extensively and in length last year while > DC [1]. Because I also know were starters typically struggle with and > I was in the need to introduce a

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread weepingclown
Hi, As an addendum, there is also dedicated wiki pages[0] intended to be of help to newcomers. Not saying that solves everything mentioned before, but it does help quite a lot. As I understand it, the current problem we have is more about the wiki being less organized than there not being

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Hello Paul, Am 29.03.24 um 13:49 schrieb Paul Boddie: On Friday, 29 March 2024 09:52:14 CET Carsten Schoenert wrote: Starting with Debian packaging isn't a easy thing and there is *not* the one way to do it right. And there are for sure hundreds of HowTos out there. You will need to try a few

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday, 29 March 2024 09:52:14 CET Carsten Schoenert wrote: > > Starting with Debian packaging isn't a easy thing and there is *not* the > one way to do it right. And there are for sure hundreds of HowTos out > there. You will need to try a few of them and chose in the end the > workflow that

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread c.buhtz
On 2024-03-29 09:52 Carsten Schoenert wrote: > New Maintainer Guide: > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ That document itself points to a new rewritten "tutorial" in its first paragraph. I suggest to remove one of

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Am 29.03.24 um 08:51 schrieb c.bu...@posteo.jp: This document is not Python related. The section about Python is empty. See section 15 at PDF page 65. This isn't really needed yet, packaging Debian packages is technically always the same. You seems to have a general problem to understand what

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread Mechtilde
Hello everyone, first some general information. As I understand the information from the python-team in the wiki is to inform special handlin here. Newcommers should first read the New Maintainer Guide and the Developer Reference You want a "complete" description about packaging also for

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread c.buhtz
Dear Boyuan Yang, Thanks for your feedback. > I can see that > https://wiki.debian.org/Python/GitPackaging#Creating_a_new_package is > indeed poorly written: > > *) It still > [...] I agree to your list of aspects that need to be improved. It seems you really understood the "workflow" of a

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread c.buhtz
On 2024-03-29 07:48 Andreas Tille wrote: > Perhaps a hint to my Live packaging workshop > > https://debconf23.debconf.org/talks/34-live-packaging-workshop/ Also not Python (but Go?) related but I will check it out.

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread c.buhtz
Dear Metchtilde, Thanks for the reply. On 2024-03-29 08:28 Mechtilde wrote: > If some want to have more information you can read > > https://ddp-team.pages.debian.net/dpb/BuildWithGBP.pdf in German This document is not Python related. The section about Python is empty. See section 15 at PDF

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 11:45:36PM -0400 schrieb Boyuan Yang: > > I don't have a good solution to Wiki pages yet since the article logic > needs some major editing. I can't provide any help for the Wiki page for DPMT. In Debian Med we provide some resources for newcomers: Mentoring of

Re: Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-28 Thread Boyuan Yang
Hi, (I am off debian-python mailing list -- please CC me. Also, I cannot include previous text in the threads because I don't have them in my mailbox. Sorry!) Reading https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2024/03/msg00152.html and https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2024/03/msg00151.html , I

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-28 Thread weepingclown
Hello Christian, Without knowing what exactly fails for you, it is quite difficult to point out anything. The steps documented in the wiki are supposed to be working. That said, the current packaging go to tool for the DPT should be py2dsp, if what you are working on is a python package. `apt

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-28 Thread c.buhtz
Hello again, the problem persists. I don't have the right information in the wiki. So I don't know how to proceed with creating a package. Can someone point me into the right direction please. I have the repo on Salsa. But it is empty. And the commands described in "Creating a new package"

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-23 Thread c.buhtz
On 2024-03-20 22:55 c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > Am 20.03.2024 22:43 schrieb Andrey Rakhmatullin: > > One should use git-buildpackage which > > is described on https://wiki.debian.org/PackagingWithGit. > > What is the difference to https://wiki.debian.org/Python/GitPackaging > ? I think this is a

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-20 Thread c . buhtz
Thanks for the reply. Am 20.03.2024 22:43 schrieb Andrey Rakhmatullin: As I said before, we no longer use git-dpm and git-dpm-specific documentation is no longer relevant. OK, then someone should remove it from the DPT packaging wiki page. One should use git-buildpackage which is described

Re: Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-20 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 09:32:34PM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > Hello, > > in order to improve the documentation I need to understand some parts. > But I am stuck. I don't get it what the authors trying to explain. > > It is about "Creating a new package" section: >

Docu: Need help to understand section about package creation

2024-03-20 Thread c.buhtz
Hello, in order to improve the documentation I need to understand some parts. But I am stuck. I don't get it what the authors trying to explain. It is about "Creating a new package" section: https://wiki.debian.org/Python/GitPackaging#Creating_a_new_package The second paragraph points to