Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> Hi deloptes,
>
> It depends very much on the machine. I've just saved a machine that has
> 32 bit UEFI implementation and a 64 bit Atom processor. It's an Intel
> Baytrail with a small amount of memory [2G] but required the Debian
> multi
max wrote:
> For comparison, RMS is publicly against singular "they", and Debian
> developers voted not to censure him.
> https://stallman.org/articles/genderless-pronouns.html Seems like a double
> standard, but whatever.
If you engage in such discussion, you are ready to fail. There is no
Thank you for the response
David Christensen wrote:
> I have a computer with an Intel DQ67SW desktop motherboard (released Q1,
> 2011). The Setup utility allows me to select BIOS/MBR mode or UEFI/GPT
> mode. d-i seems to detect if the computer is running in BIOS/MBR mode
> or in UEFI/GPT mode,
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> This seems to me close to harassment.
its just popcorn but you'll obviously never get it.
please stop as well and thank you in advance
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Hi all,
is there a way to have a USB UEFI stick that works similar to the Debian
installer - for example to boot into UEFI and recover the boot loader.
One machine here seems a bit older and refuses to boot into UEFI from the
USB - rendering USB obsolete as recovery option. In BIOS USB says AUTO
local10 wrote:
> I asked you a simple question: Is there a list of all the horrible things
> Norbert Preining said that was used to support the decision to demote him?
>
> Instead of providing a clear answer to the question you seem to be more
> interesting in engaging in sophism and detracting
Andy Smith wrote:
> However, if for your own eccentric reasons you insist:
>
> # echo 'net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1' > /etc/sysctl.d/disableipv6.conf
>
> will disable it from the next boot.
>
> You can use:
>
> # sysctl --system
>
> to re-apply all sysctl configs immediately, so
gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings folks;
>
> Let me say first that I'm around 150 miles from any ipv6 capable network,
> just to get that out of the way.
>
> Its booted to a text login and the first thing I did was import a saved
> copy of the hosts file, and added rpi4-20220122.coyote.den with
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Just a note, he's not 30
https://people.debian.org/~peb/resume.html
but I stop as it is unbearable ... and I am not sure who is playing the
fool.
You are just digging the grave for this awesome project and I hope I am
wrong. But it could be just
Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> You do not care but still take plenty time to post a very long paragraph
> full of nonsense which brings nothing relevant to the discussion, and
> shows that you are also able to lack that ability you claim having to
> have a constructive debate instead of asserting,
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> I feel like someone is very frustrated and can't seem to self moderate
> himself.
>
> This is probably the part of opensource community that is the most time
> consuming and more destructive for all projects, what make serious
> people look at us like if
Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Thanks for sharing this masterpiece of rhetoric, intellect and
> understanding about how things work in Debian.
>
> This was enlightening.
you are welcome (I am not stupid, just answering in the same manner)
I do not care what you do in Debian. I use and support
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> This is not helpful. If you value logic as much as you talk about (cf.
> your other post), you wouldn't need this narrative of Some Dark
> Conspiracy Taking Over The World (TM).
>
No conspiracy - it is a fact.
> Stick to the things as they are. Accept that there are
Marco Möller wrote:
> Asking for transparency to sound like trolling wasn't my intention. I am
> sorry if I wasn't able to find the correct wording for keeping these to
> things distinguishable.
>
> Being a grateful user of Debian, and being in my circle of influence a
> strong advocate of the
Marco Möller wrote:
> I feel that a concise statement from Debian insiders would gain a lot to
> not provoke avoidable discussions and would right away defeat heat given
> off obstructively.
> As Thomas pointed out, there are hundreds of posts from years old
> discussions which appear to be the
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> If you want to know how to run (fairly)
> vanilla Debian - but including the non-free raspberry pi firmware
> and rpi-eeprom - it's possible using either Gunnar Wolf's images
> or Pete Batard's version of UEFI for the Pi 4 and the Debian
> arm64 ISO file. _That_ I can
Hans wrote:
> Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
I usually use debootstrap and install to the USB stick (that is to boot
from). So I have a fully bootable system. I use qemu to prepare and test
the basics.
As mentioned those arm beasts are usually with various hardware combinations
and might be
Hans wrote:
> Reading these, and I am also very old school, with my first linux
> installation of SuSE 6.0 in 1986, I am asking myself: What is better,
> working fast or working with nice tools?
according to this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux
SuSE Linux 6.0 was released on
c. marlow wrote:
> And I am wondering what other file managers work with TDE 14 besides
> Konqueror, which ain't worth a dang!
the erason many use TDE is
- it is very small in size
- it is very reliable (things just work)
even the bugs are well known and constantly fixed
So may be you are
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> I'd imagine it's used by the "calendar" program in the calendar package.
> The string "calendar.usholiday" appears in the calendar(1) man page, in
> an example, as well as in the FILES section.
And if you look into the file, you see it has no years associated with the
local10 wrote:
> Those who suggest that you use google are not your friends. You can start
> here:
>
> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Google
>
> 2. https://nomoregoogle.com/
>
Oh come on, it is a synonym for a search engine. Of course it is a sh*t
business model they have
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> attempt to perform an operation not allowed by the security policy `PDF' @
> error/constitute.c/IsCoderAuthorized/421
Is google broken where you live?
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1127260/imagemagick-convert-not-allowed
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john doe wrote:
> I'm thinking about two options:
> - Buying something of the shelph and installing Debian on it
> - Buying a pine64 or alike
> - Any other alternative?
regarding arm or aarch64 I tried with RPi4, but it could not meet all
requirements (not all applications I use can be compiled
Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I have firmware-realtek installed for wireless devices and that's all
> debian offers.
but sometime if it is a new device on the market you may need either to wait
for the firmware to go to the package or you can download from vendor or
you can extract from the windows
Jude DaShiell wrote:
> hcitool and rfkill list showed nothing, according to them the device isn't
> there yet. I might be able to get this going with usb_modeswitch but need
> a product identifier and another item to do that.
based on the product name, find what is the chip inside and ask
Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Dec 16 17:10:08 taf systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Bluetooth
> service being skipped.
> Dec 16 17:10:33 taf dbus-daemon[475]: [system] Failed to activate service
> 'org.bluez': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)
> Dec 16 17:20:36 taf kernel: Bluetooth: Core
Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> I find its home page somehow confusing
> https://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/
> But the web says that it is supposed to work automagically for known
> devices.
may be OP is needing the firmware and this mode is a fallout mode. It is
strange if it would need
Jude DaShiell wrote:
> No Linux firmware came on the disk only windows files. To that extent I
> checked. On debian does a way exist to check devices for missing
> firmware?
>
in the log file journalctl or /var/log/syslog, after plugging in the usb (I
am not sure if it is usb stick, because
Jude DaShiell wrote:
> debian-accessibility is interested in replacing pulseaudio with pipewire
> and I can understand why! Not saying pipewire has these essential
> features but pulseaudio has been a p.i.t.a. since I've had it on any
> hardware I've used. Whenever possible I avoid installing
Jude DaShiell wrote:
> So in reality this may actually not be a card
> The disk that came with this claimed it was an realtek-0179 device if
> memory serves.
did you check firmware if required - do you have it installed?
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Maureen L Thomas wrote:
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
you were already answered before
on Debian 9 it might be you need some debugging after the shutdown via the
power switch. it could be anything from hardware to software - the
archlinux article is good
I would start with
Maureen L Thomas wrote:
> I misstated the version I am using. I am using 10.6, Buster, 64 bit. I
> have tried a few things that I am aware of and am looking for help.
there is profound documentation regarding sound on arch linux (see below), I
can recommend, but 90% of the issues are solved if
Kiyanovski, Arthur wrote:
> But it got the sources for kernel linux-3.16.84 and not 3.16.0-4
>
> Can you please help me? I need to make sure my code compiles on this
> kernel but I can't get its sources or headers ☹
you sure you are not on ubuntu
Jeremy Ardley wrote:
> Most people will have a friend, with a monitor.
>
> But I guess that isn't something that occurred to you.
No ... actually not - they do not have either a spare monitor or time.
Luckily they also have no st**id ideas either.
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Jeremy Ardley wrote:
> Plug in a different monitor. If it's dim as well then it is a computer
> software/hardware problem. If not it's a monitor problem which can
> usually be fixed by swapping out the monitor power supply capacitors.
Yes sure, I have a PC store and 5 monitors to choose from :/
john doe wrote:
> I'm using a RS232 cable to connect to a server everything is properly
> set up and works fine.
> For some reasons I lost the connection to my server that is I can not
> control the server using serial console.
> If I reboot that server I can once again manage that server using
Christian Britz wrote:
>> I think you are looking for usb/WUSB-Design-overview.txt which I found
>> with
>>
>> grep -r -i wireless usb/
>
> How did you do this exactly? I installed package linux-dox like lou and
> issued grep -i -r wireless /usr/share/doc/linux-doc/Documentation/ ,
> without
lou wrote:
> sorry, i use wrong word
>
> i mean wifi adapter, not wifi card
>
> in Chinese, it's called wireless card, though it's really USB wifi adapter
I think you are looking for usb/WUSB-Design-overview.txt which I found with
grep -r -i wireless usb/
otherwise
grep -r -i wireless .
David wrote:
> A few seconds web search finds this:
> https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/fvd-speed-dial-stopped-working/39165
also after upgrades since perhaps 1-2 years it is creating new profile by
default and one should go to about:profiles and select the old one as
default.
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I'm sure there are many ideas around, but I want to hear your opinion
so there is one USB stick that I noticed started mocking about errors when
booting off.
I ran badblocks (without options) and then with -s -n and this produced a
slightly different output.
Is the output resulting from the
john doe wrote:
> What am I missing?
this specific key seems not to be available on the debian keyserver
try keyserver.ubuntu.com, you can find the key there
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Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Hi again. Please help me get sound.
> Installed Debian again in my 2,1 Macbook from 2017, works, but no sound in
> internal speakers, or in headphones.
> Plugged in external speakers, which worked, but then disappeared.
> Pulse audio program is installed, but does not give
Ken Heard wrote:
> It is consequently my understanding that running the 'dcopserver'
> command is presumably required as part of the initial boot-up. If such
> is usually the case I would appreciate knowing what I need to do to have
> my computer, named Morcom, do so as well. Can anyone tell
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>> I intend to downgrade qt5 to qt4.
>
> You are looking for trouble here.
yes indeed - the only thing that make sense is a virtual machine with some
old distro that has qt4
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pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> surround21:CARD=Set,DEV=0
> and
> surround40:CARD=Set,DEV=0
> aren't atomic names. Is the syntax and semantics explained in
> documentation?
>
> No surround22, surround23 ... surround39 evident here. How does ALSA
> derive or find the names and numbers?
you hopefully
Thomas George wrote:
> Thanks, this fixed my problem and as Greg recommended I have reset mkdir
> ownership and options
If I were you, I would be very careful using root
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Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Can it be that obexd is allergic to symbolic links ?
>
>
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/cannot-receive-file-over-bluetooth/1813/3
> points to
>
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/bluetooth/bluez.git/tree/obexd/plugins/filesystem.c#n95
> which spews -EPERM if not
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> In the absence of a useful error message, you could either source-dive
> into obexd and try to figure out what it's actually doing... or you could
> *guess* (as I am currently guessing) that it's complaining about
> too-loose permissions, and then look at all the
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> WHAT application? And how is THAT creature spawned?
Sorry for confusion. For testing I run it on the command line, but it is
meant to be spawned from one BT manager application. It is spawned as
process the same way I start it in the command line.
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David Wright wrote:
> Because both tests are run by hand, that does make it easier to strace
> what's going on in more detail than the debug output. For example, the
> open's flags are listed.
I forgot to mention that home is actually a link to home-lisa which is the
mount point for the NFS
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> So, never mind. Continue whatever other investigations you have lined
> up.
Ah yes, obexd is meant to be run at user level. In my case it is started by
a master application, but anyway thank you for the effort.
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Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Check whether the systemd unit file is restricting network access for
> the service/process.
??? How do I do this - a hint would be helpful.
thanks in advance
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Luis Mochan wrote:
> After a recent update/upgrade in debian/bookworm my bluetooth
> earphones and my bluetooth earphones stopped working.
> I found a solution in the discussion of at
>
>
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=997862=no=no=no
>
> related to bug #997862 which seemed
Burhan Hanoglu wrote:
> Could be something about that NFS mount. To narrow down; point it to
> /home/user/something that is not on NFS but on the local FS instead
> and see what happens.
Hi,
yes it looks like it is somehow related, because on a local FS even with
same directory permissions (700)
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> That's an interesting message for that operation.
>
> The open(2) man page shows only two possible sources for EPERM on an open:
>
> EPERM The O_NOATIME flag was specified, but the effective user ID of
> the caller did not match the owner of the file and the caller
This is how I am starting the daemon
/usr/lib/bluetooth/obexd -d -n -r /home/user/Downloads -a
and this is what I get when trying to transfer a file
obexd[4068]: obexd/src/obex.c:obex_session_start()
obexd[4068]: obexd/src/obex.c:cmd_connect()
obexd[4068]: CONNECT(0x0), (0xff)
obexd[4068]:
Олександр Скоропад wrote:
> Unfortunately not my case, because libpulse-mainloop-glib0 already
> installed
try
backup and deleting
~/.pulse
/var/lib/bluetooth/
reboot
pair
regards
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Reco wrote:
> I don't know about garden design, but I used sweethome3d for an
> apartment design back in the day.
>
> Written in Java, but works reasonably fast.
I can second Sweethome3D for interior. It helped us save a lot of time
planing furniture layout
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Олександр Скоропад wrote:
> Nov 1 16:09:10 Skoropad bluetoothd[1204]:
> src/service.c:btd_service_connect() a2dp-sink profile connect failed for
> 00:16:94:42:30:F4: Protocol not available I've found that there were
> similar error with previous versions of pipewire and apt history shows
> that
Martin McCormick wrote:
> The installation, here, is like millions of others. We are on a
> private VLAN with the router acting as the gateway to our ISP's
> network and the internet. There is nothing unusual about that so
> the question is Can systems on a 192.168.x VLAN use smtp to send
>
Gene Heskett wrote:
> 1. Before the latest failure I could do all this as me because the mount
> point for the card is in my home directory, I own it all. And didn't
> have to be root to do any of it. This was not fixed by a 2nd reboot.
>
I guess this problem is not related to the .profile
lou wrote:
> Thanks, i've just installed linux-image-686, result is same
you understand that in most cases if you use a 32bit OS with 4GB of memory
you may not utilize 1GB, because the overhead of utilizing this memory
consumes much of this memory with the registers to overcome the 3GB
barrier.
David Christensen wrote:
> When I boot my Debian machines with LUKS encrypted root filesystems, I
> see a bunch of time-stamped bootloader messages followed by the prompt:
>
> Please unlock disk sda3_crypt:
>
>
> When I type on the keyboard, nothing is echoed to the screen.
I use plymouth or
Felix Miata wrote:
>
> I have several with Bullseye running on E8400s and 1680x1050 or 1920x1200
> or 2560x1440 screens. All are running TDE.
> https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment
I can second that - this is the most stable desktop
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fxkl47BF wrote:
> no offense taken
> i use expect_mkpasswd to generate passwords
> decades ago i got tired of trying to come up with user names
> i just use expect_mkpasswd to make a short unique name
> today everyone is trying to glean all of the personal info they can
> i try not give out any
Bob Latest wrote:
> after installing Debian bullseye I can't get sound to work. I'm using
> lightdm + dwm, and I have pulseaudio installed. "pavucontrol" ist stuck
> on the message "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..."
>
perhaps the pulseaudio server is not running - you can
Borden wrote:
> Empathy is the ability to step outside your own experience to see the
> world from someone else's perspective. It's an evolved human attribute
> that separates us from other animals, I've read.
Well, still your perception is quite different than someone else. For me
debian user
Default User wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I want to try using borgbackup to do backups of my (only) user directory:
> /home/debian-user
>
> I just want to do so using Vorta, a GUI for borgbackup.
>
> But I just need a good, general list of directory and file type
> exclusions that I can just cut and
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> So you're also below the minimum memory requirement for a no-desktop
> system (220 MB vs. 256 MB), but it's not by a *lot*. So you're probably
> just scraping by. This hardware is past its end of life, I would say.
> Anything you get it to do at all is just a bonus.
But
Dan Ritter wrote:
> If you print in black/white more often than you need color, you could
> still use a local print shop or get things mailed to you for those
> occasions - photos and posters, especially, but basically any document.
>
> In that case, get a monochrome laser printer. I recommend a
Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> Anyone do this for important (maybe not 'mission critical') servers?
>
> I'm sure someone does, but it's not *wise*.
yes indeed. server + sid is contradicting somehow unless you do development
of server software
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deloptes wrote:
>> That link mentions using a D-SUB (you didn't specify what you are using,
>> please do so), in which case take particular care to ensure it is
>> properly inserted, at *both* ends.
>>
>> Even so, you should try using HDMI/DVI/DisplayPort inst
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> That link mentions using a D-SUB (you didn't specify what you are using,
> please do so), in which case take particular care to ensure it is
> properly inserted, at *both* ends.
>
> Even so, you should try using HDMI/DVI/DisplayPort instead (whichever is
> available).
Hi,
I don't know how to explain my problem, but I try hoping that someone would
understand and help me fix it.
So I have one HP Elitebook (I think it is 820 G2) with 16GB RAM and Intel(R)
Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz.
The issue is that when it starts with its own display the colors are OK,
Roger Price wrote:
> Before I plunge into the details, does anyone have a working xorg.conf for
> such a setup? I would prefer to start with something that works rather
> than describe in detail something that doesn't work.
I'm not an expert but shouldn't be there only one screen with 2
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> You seem pretty good a drawing a line between *good* and *bad*, always
> putting yourself on the *good* side.
>
see this is exactly the attitude I am reffering to.
> What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing
> over old
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the
> official Debian mailing list server, rather than elsewhere. But,
> such a list will only serve its purpose if it gets used *instead*
> of off-topic conversations on this list. Does anyone think that
>
Jeremy Ardley wrote:
> I don't think this is accidental, and you can see clear signs of
> continuous influence by major players using Wikipedia 'editors' to
> further various agendas.
+1
China and North Korea getting envy.
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Dan Ritter wrote:
> There is no way in which the gender of any participant in
> debian-users is relevant. Nor their sexuality, religion, skin
> color, national origin, or even the fact that they use other
> operating systems from time to time.
It is not about the gender but the attitude, capice?
Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Better I try boot
> Then see what happens.
very good idea
> (Later upgrade to 64bit if I can).
I am not sure if you can upgrade 32 to 64bit OS. AFAIK you reinstall
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rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I do not insult anyone and do not attack people, please stop with this BS
>> of excuse by political correctness.
>
> I don't think tomas felt he was under personal attack, but that he
> perceived a personal attack on Polyna
And I understood completely well.
So I
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> I strongly disagree.
>
me too
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to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Can we please avoid personal insults?
>
> Each of us has his/her difficult points. If you have issues with
> those points, by all means, speak up. But **attacking people
> personally** does not belong in this list.
I do not insult anyone and do not attack people,
Brian wrote:
> Please give a link at the Mopria website substantiating your clain that
> a Mopria certified device should be ca[able of accepting PDF as a PDL
> in addition to PWG raster and PCLm.
>
>> And all of the condition make a printer pretty much driver less.
>>
>> There's no link with
Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Gunnar Gervin, trolly but no troll.
You need a fundamental course in Linux. There are such not very expensive
courses, or you educate your self (before you start using something you
read the instructions right? The fact that linux does not physically
explode, does not mean
Alain D D Williams wrote:
> iptables -A FORWARD -j ACCEPT
>
and the OUTPUT?
> and this is not a problem ... evidence is outgoing packets with source
> address 10.239.239.23
ah, ok, I misinterpreted it.
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Alain D D Williams wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have problems getting POSTROUTING to work on a Debian 10 box.
>
> Setup:
>
> INTERNET ... Broadband modem 192.168.108.1
>
> Network internal to the Debian box for virtual machines 10.239.239.0/24
>
> Debian has address 192.168.108.2 (interface enp3s0)
Klaus Singvogel wrote:
> This means, that I can't change nor access my BIOS / UEFI settings by a BT
> keyboard?
It depends on the hardware and BIOS. Some newer especially with integrated
BT would implement a HID driver, so that you could, but if it would work
with each keyboard etc. no idea.
It
didier gaumet wrote:
> I can give no evidence but chances are that Gunnar Gervin, Rishi and roa
> moshin (non-limitative list) are the same troll: there are troubling
> similarities...
when FSF started, they did not think about so many things ... but mainly
that the psychopats would multiply
ellanios82 wrote:
> - is there a way to send an SMS to a mobile phone, from Thunderbird ?
yes, just attach a SIM card to it (jokingly)
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> RAID-5 is N-1. With 4 disks in a RAID-5 configuration, you'd get 3
> disks worth of usable storage.
>
> RAID-6 is N-2. With 4 disks in a RAID-6 configuration, you'd get 2
> disks worth of usable storage.
Sorry I mixed both :/
Dan Ritter wrote:
>> Raid6 sounds promising. Equivalent capacity is also one drive?
>
> No, you actually get about 2 drives of capacity out of 4 here.
You get N-1, so from 4x2TB disks you get close to 6TB RAID6 (you have also
various FS layer overhead)
Gene, IMO this is best option but I do
piorunz wrote:
> What you mean by problem with ecosystem?
the apps
I use Sailfish OS since I gave up the N9. It has better ecosystem, but still
not compareable with Android/iOS, so I bought the license to be able to use
Android emulator and it works quite well, but still too much effort, bugs
piorunz wrote:
> Another solution is to use designated Linux smartphone, like Pinephone.
> I use that one with Mobian system, which is pure Debian repos with some
> tweaks to make GUI better.
yes but the problem is always the ecosystem.
I was looking into Pinephone few months ago.
Joe wrote:
> OK, spending another couple of days making near-random changes will
> probably solve this, but my point is that I did the job on a buster
> netbook in five minutes, on my Android phone in about ten, and the
> reason it is taking hours on the other mobile devices is one of
>
Stella Ashburne wrote:
> I discovered that reinstalling GRUB and then ran update-grub didn't help
> at all. The issue still persists. With my limited technical knowledge, the
> only way for me to get back the GRUB menu with the blue background is to
> reinstall Debian.
I had similar issue on
mlnl wrote:
> 10. make deb-pkg LOCALVERSION=-nameN KDEB_PKGVERSION=$(make
> kernelversion)-1 (nameN e. g. v1)
I prefer bindeb-dpkg saves some overhead in zipping the source
Stella Ashburne wrote:
> 7. Debian Testing was installed on the 100GB partition. Installation was
> successful.
>
> 8. However, I am now unable to boot into the GRUB menu with the blue
> background. Instead all I have is a black screen with the word grub> _
> (The underscore is actually the
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Darn, please ignore the previous message -- didn't mean to send, was
> working on a draft, meant to save as a draft instead of send.
>
> (Of course, if you want to reply, feel free.)
.
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'd like to find a fairly large (I mean not a tiny hand held thing that
> uses batteries and has tiny controls) music player that can play things
> like mp3, wav and other music files from either an SD card or a USB
> pendrive.
>
> I'd prefer to be able to plug it in
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