On 2015-08-01, pjw lists.deb...@pjw.xsmail.com wrote:
As I recall, if expert install is selected from the initial screen,
the option of using non-free will eventually be presented, which would
likely provide the missing firmware.
There's also a netinst.iso with the non-free firmware included,
As I recall, if expert install is selected from the initial screen, the option
of using non-free will eventually be presented, which would likely provide the
missing firmware.
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, Brian wrote:
On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 21:46:31 -0500, David Bruce wrote:
5. (most troubling) - I posted a couple of days ago that I had
trouble with DHCP not working during install, and have had exactly
zero follow-ups (although I did receive one very nice off-list
On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 21:46:31 -0500, David Bruce wrote:
5. (most troubling) - I posted a couple of days ago that I had trouble
with DHCP not working during install, and have had exactly zero
follow-ups (although I did receive one very nice off-list email
suggestion, which unfortunately did
On Wednesday 29 July 2015 01:32:15 Joel Rees wrote:
companies catering to consumers
who like free beer and ignoring consumers who like their toys entirely
free of beer.
:-)
Lisi
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Michael Fothergill
michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Don't we mean: firmware. Nonfree firmware was removed from
Debian main for some silly reason. A lot of hardware needs it
to function.
I agree. Having to install the
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 16:54:12 Michael Fothergill wrote:
For me, normal use of the non-free stuff is a bit like choosing to use an
umbrella ie useful but non essential that has a designer label printed on
it etc. Or not if that is your choice.
It depends. If you want to use a particular
Don't we mean: firmware. Nonfree firmware was removed from
Debian main for some silly reason. A lot of hardware needs it
to function.
I agree. Having to install the firmware manually to get X11 working is
a
bit Arthur Tuttlesque.
Why not go the whole
Erwan David wrote:
Le 28/07/2015 18:16, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 16:54:12 Michael Fothergill wrote:
For me, normal use of the non-free stuff is a bit like choosing to use an
umbrella ie useful but non essential that has a designer label printed on
it etc. Or not if that is
Le 28/07/2015 18:16, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 16:54:12 Michael Fothergill wrote:
For me, normal use of the non-free stuff is a bit like choosing to use an
umbrella ie useful but non essential that has a designer label printed on
it etc. Or not if that is your choice.
It
On 28 July 2015 at 18:06, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:
Le 28/07/2015 18:16, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 16:54:12 Michael Fothergill wrote:
For me, normal use of the non-free stuff is a bit like choosing to use
an
umbrella ie useful but non essential that has a
this is a easy problem between the keyboard and chair xD
2015-07-27 7:19 GMT-04:30 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com:
On Monday 27 July 2015 03:46:31 David Bruce wrote:
I would still welcome any suggestions or insights as to why the 6.03
installer works with my home router, but 8.1 does not.
On Monday 27 July 2015 03:46:31 David Bruce wrote:
I would still welcome any suggestions or insights as to why the 6.03
installer works with my home router, but 8.1 does not.
In one word, drivers.
Also, have you checksum checked the net install with firmware disk?
Another suggestion, install
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera:
In one word, drivers.
Hi there,
some hardware is not recognized by the insdtallation kernel. I suggest, to
install a minimal systerm from the DVD, then download and install the newest
linux-image-* with another computer and install it
On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums m...@allums.xyz wrote:
On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote:
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera:
In one word, drivers.
Don't we mean: firmware. Nonfree firmware was removed from Debian main
for some silly reason. A lot of hardware
I understand the desire to put free software first and segregate out
packages that don't meet the standard, but if a free driver is not
available for one's hardware, then I figure the least Debian could do is
to offer to install a non-free one (purists should be free to change
the config to
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:30:20 -0600
Glenn English g...@slsware.net wrote:
Guys, this is not tough. Just put non-free in your apt sources file
line(s), and you'll never see the difference. The firmware in not
unencumbered; it's $free, but not beer free. You can get it any time you ask
for
On 2015-07-27, John L. Ries jr...@salford-systems.com wrote:
Ideals are good, but one still has to deal with reality.
You can find some reality here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
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On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Michael Fothergill
michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums m...@allums.xyz wrote:
On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote:
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera:
In one word, drivers.
Don't we mean:
On 7/27/2015 2:30 PM, Glenn English wrote:
On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Michael Fothergill
michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums m...@allums.xyz wrote:
On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote:
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john vera:
In
On Mon, 2015-07-27 at 14:55 -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
Guys, this is not tough. Just put non-free in your apt sources
file line(s), and you'll never see the difference. The firmware in
not unencumbered; it's $free, but not beer free. You can get it any
time you ask for it.
We are
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:27 AM, John L. Ries jr...@salford-systems.com wrote:
I understand the desire to put free software first and segregate out
packages that don't meet the standard, but if a free driver is not available
for one's hardware, then I figure the least Debian could do is to
On Monday 27 July 2015 19:30:20 Glenn English wrote:
On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Michael Fothergill
michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 27 July 2015 at 18:27, Mark Allums m...@allums.xyz wrote:
On 07/27/2015 08:46 AM, Hans wrote:
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 08:13:29 schrieb john
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:46 AM, David Bruce
davidstuartbr...@gmail.com wrote:
I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
a
David Bruce:
I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
a straightforward amd64 setup built from a bundle from Newegg. It has
On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 21:46:31 -0500, David Bruce wrote:
I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
a straightforward amd64
I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
a straightforward amd64 setup built from a bundle from Newegg. It has
onboard Realtek
On 26/07/15 10:46 PM, David Bruce wrote:
I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
a straightforward amd64 setup built from a
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