Re: printing .pdf files
1) I also run into problems with the postscript that acroread produces. My gs version is 3.33. 2) gs-aladin is in non-free. I have tried xpdf (with the included pdftops) version 0.6, which is declared as beta. It did not worked for me. Perhaps you will have more luck. Maybee there is a new version. On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Carl Fink wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 01:15:06AM -0800, Matt Thompson wrote: I find that printing from Acroread produces some postscript that ghostscript doesn't like. This may be a bug in either package, I don't know. I've seen this also. In any case, ghostscripts starting at about 4.0 (I think) can print pdf files natively. Skip the acroread step, and just ghostscript it directly. Use pdf2ps, included in the gs-aladdin package. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Installing Debian 1.31 with a PC-Card CD-ROM
Hello, can you give some hints how to access my SONY PRD-250 PC-Card CD-ROM Drive during the installation process. Thank you, Christopher Moehlenhof. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Re: Library for cgi progamming in C
On Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 03:39:40AM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: As nobody could provide me with a library that I could use I've written my own. Of course it's GPL'ed and I wonder if/and how I should package it. The .o file is 4.7kB big, does it make sense to build .a and .so files from it? I've included some documentation so the package will not be this small. Ok, I've released the library yesterday, called it cgilib. It's already uploaded. For now it does not contain a shared library but only a static one. Please feel free to use and improve it. Regards, Joey pgpan7gakOI5v.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Diff window managers for diff users
David R Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Krzysztof Adamski wrote: Hi What do I have to do to let different users on the same machine use different window mamager? I have installed afterstep, and my wife was using it, but leter I added fvwm2, now she wants after step back, but I want to use fvwm2. K If you and your wife log on as distinct users with distinct home directories, then you can have different .xsession files. This file, if present, will determine what window manager is used. There is a default one somewhere under /etc/X11 that is used if it not present. To be a bit more explicit about what is needed, and what happens: When xdm starts a session (i.e. once someone logs in successfully) it simply executes the file /etc/X11/Xsession - this file does some standard things (involving setting X resources, among other things), and then, depending either on whether or not the user has a .xsession file in their home directory, exec's .xsession or exec's the default window manager (which will be the first window manager listed in /etc/X11/window-managers that exists). So, if a certain user wants to use a certain window manager instead of the default, they should create a ~/.xsession file with the line: exec afterstep (or 'exec fvwm2' or whatever) and make this file executable with chmod: chmod a+rx .xsession .xsession files can also be used to do certain setup things - start specific X programs each time one logs in, start ssh-agent (for those who use ssh), etc.; note that some of these setup parameters are often best left to the window manager, and the details on how to set up each window manager vary from wm to wm. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
any debianized CAD programs?
Hi, Are there any debianized CAD programs? I'm running hamm, and I don't see any. I've looked at Linux Woven Goods, but found one commercial, one pre-alpha, and one who's website I couldn't connect to. -- D a v i d S t e r n -- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
oops -- did a bad thing
Hmmm..i'm sorta new to linux and was trying to run the xdm login screen on system startup -- and made some changes to the .bash_profile - file and was wondering if anyone knows of any program that will run in win95 - that allows one to mount the linux filesystem - so that one can edit files on the linux system? --- By the way does anyone know the propper way to call the xdm login screen when you first boot up? so this doesn't happen again? Would greatly appreaciate any info. Thank you for your time. sc -- Steve : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://www.engr.csulb.edu/~stephenc ! ATTENTION !! Please Note, that since the new semester has just begun, it might delay the reply to your message, but rest assured that I check for Mail several times each day, and will return any correspondences as soon as possible. Thank you SC -- ICQ: 2669033 Veni Vidi Vici ...Aut Vincere Aut Mori begin: vcard fn: Steve n: ;Steve adr:[EMAIL PROTECTED];;;Los Angeles, CA 90638;;;uSa email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] title: ThE ceReAl KiLleR note: ICQ # 2669033 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
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Re: BASH question
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote: Can anyone tell me why I can't generate working Bash scripts? For example, I want to create a short script called print so that I can do some formatted printing: #!/bin/sh # Print -- formatted printer tool to get a 5-space margin and a header/footer pr -o 5 $1 | lpr There could be many reasons why your scripts do not work. 1. Does /bin/sh exists? 2. Did you put an extra line at the end of the script? 3. does pr -o 5 filename | lpr work? 4. Is your path set up right? Do you need to run ./script instead of just script etc. Claerly your problem has to do with some misunderstanding of paths etc. /---/ Daniel J. Mashao Electrical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Cape Town http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel Rondebosch, 7700, S. Africa(w) 27+21+650 2816 (h) 27+21+705 1233 /---/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
.wav/.midi
Dear all, how can I play .wav and .midi files? (How do I configure /dev/midi**?) ThanX a lot! Best Wishes Selim PS: Please also reply to my email address, thanX! S E L I M I S S E V E R DESY-F15, Notkestr. 85, 22603 Hamburg, Germany; Tel/Fax: 040 8998-2843/4033 http://www.physik.uni-dortmund.de/~issevers; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ete kemige burundum, Yunus diye gorundum. Yunus Emre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: oops -- did a bad thing
On 15 Feb 98 at 22:46, debian-user@lists.debian.org wrote: Hmmm..i'm sorta new to linux and was trying to run the xdm login screen on system startup -- and made some changes to the .bash_profile - file and was wondering if anyone knows of any program that will run in win95 - that allows one to mount the linux filesystem - so that one can edit files on the linux system? --- By the way does anyone know the propper way to call the xdm login screen when you first boot up? so this doesn't happen again? Would greatly appreaciate any info. Thank you for your time. For reading the ext2fs from DOS, try: ext2tool_1_1.zip from ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/filesystems/ext2/ I'll let a more experienced user help you with the xdm problem since you may need to find configuration files, but when I first configured it (the easy, Debian way), I chose to run it from the prompt rather than from boot, and at the prompt, I just enter xdm. Some of the configuration info at the following site has helped me, too. Window Managers for X http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ Art Lemasters -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: looking for a regex to match an email addr...
Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As the subject says I'd like to find a perl regex to match an email addr. Those I've been able to write seem to be either too restrictive or not enough... I'd also like to find the same for URLs too. Do a DejaNews for this in comp.lang.perl.misc. There was a multiple page, strictly correct, URL-matching regex posted some time ago. There has been a lot of `discussion' about verifying email addresses. DON'T ASK THIS QUESTION THERE. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[comp.os.linux.hardware] Oracle on Linux
Hi, I thought people here might find this interesting. manoj -- An executive will always return to work from lunch early if no one takes him. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E ---BeginMessage--- After just speaking with some people at Oracle, I am told that if we want Linux supported on Oracle, we must submit requests for it. Business demand will dictate whether or not it becomes a reality. The contact person that requests for Linux ports should be directed to is Nancy Liu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please keep your requests professional in nature and try to demonstrate business uses or needs for Oracle, as this is, according to the people at Oracle, what will cause action the most quickly. According to a person inside Oracle, off the record, the main reason that Oracle hasn't been delivered for Linux is because of the usual free OS snobbery and the misguided concept that Linux is still just a hack. I've also heard a rumor that Oracle has internally been ported to Linux, but that management refuses to allow it to be released. Again, this is only a rumor, it could be completely false. The idea that Oracle can run under a dead OS like SCO demonstrates that Oracle could very likely be run successfully under Linux. Rally support! It'll never happen without it! --Chris---End Message---
Re: oops -- did a bad thing
Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm..i'm sorta new to linux and was trying to run the xdm login screen on system startup -- and made some changes to the .bash_profile - file and was wondering if anyone knows of any program that will run in win95 - that allows one to mount the linux filesystem - so that one can edit files on the linux system? --- There is only a *read-only* driver, IIRC. What you should do is boot from the rescue disk or install CD, *don't* initialise any partitions, but mount the Linux disk. Press Alt-F2 and Enter and edit the files from there (or just move it out of the way). By the way does anyone know the propper way to call the xdm login screen when you first boot up? so this doesn't happen again? Would greatly appreaciate any info. Thank you for your time. Edit /etc/X11/config and change no-start-xdm to start-xdm. P.S. Could you try to get your post wrapped properly next time? Leave off the v-card thing too, please. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: [comp.os.linux.hardware] Oracle on Linux
The fact is that SCO Oracle runs under linux using iBCS. This was a topic of discussion a while back in the Caldera list. The trouble with porting an application to Linux is a lack of standards. Different distributions bundle different versions of libraries, update their distributions at different times, users are always poking around in the configs. It would be a nightmare to support. The only way I see it happening is being bundled with a commercial Linux such as Caldera and not being supported if the user has deviated the machine from the standard platform. The only other way is some form of versioning that is adopted by all the major distributions. This would provide a known base configuration of certain vital libraries that a developer and support engineer could target. As it stands now, can you imagine the telephone calls from users ... Hi, my Oracle worked yesterday but now it is broken since I updated libcwhat do you mean 'put the libc back' ... your program sucks! And the company gets a bad name for producing a program targeted at a platform that changes weekly it seems. The problem with Linux is that nobody has control of the platform configuration. Official debian is a step in the right direction. Another step is for Debian consultants to support ONLY the Official configuration. On 16-Feb-98 Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, I thought people here might find this interesting. manoj -- An executive will always return to work from lunch early if no one takes him. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E George Bonser If NT is the answer, you didn't understand the question. (NOTE: Stolen sig) http://www.debian.org Debian/GNU Linux ... the maintainable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Azteck sound Card
Hello. i've just found my old sound card... have anybodyu installed this card under debian? it's 8bits local-bus and can work as old sound-blaster. thx for answers Wojciech Zukowski PGP via finger http://www.kkiem.mech.pg.gda.pl/~wojtek Nie wierz w cuda - polegaj na nich. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: printing .pdf files
1) I also run into problems with the postscript that acroread produces. My gs version is 3.33. Yes, that one is known to fail. 2) gs-aladin is in non-free. I use gs-aladdin5.03-0.99 which prints pdf files nicely. Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...
Eloy A. Paris wrote: Roy C Bixler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Yes, this is a problem. The only fix I know of right now is to get the : ncpfs-2.1.1.tar.gz file, compile with libc5 and use it. Elroy Paris did OK guys, I finally managed to make ncpfs-2.1.1 compile and work under libc6. I have just released a new package called ncpfsx. Use this package if you want to play around with ncpfs and kernels 2.1.29. For older kernels use package ncpfs. I have just uploaded to master the new package but it'll take some time until it gets added to Hamm. In the meanwhile it'll be in Incoming. Let me know of any problems you find with package ncpfsx. For me it worked great. Good luck. Thanks to Roy and ELroy for the info Sorry to be a pest, but can you tell me where I can find the Incoming directory? I'm probably being a bit daft, but I can't seem to find it under ftp.debian.org - if that's where it is.. Thanks in advance! Rgds. -- Kevin Cave. A Scotsman living in London. Registered Linux User #64441 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: any debianized CAD programs?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: Are there any debianized CAD programs? I'm running hamm, and I don't see any. I've looked at Linux Woven Goods, but found one commercial, one pre-alpha, and one who's website I couldn't connect to. -- You may want to look at SAL, Scientific Applications on Linux, http://www.idite-minho.pt/SAL/ or http://SAL.KachinaTech.COM/ or (look in the above urls for others mirrors) --- CAD, Drawing Painting Tools ( Commercial, Shareware, GPL) angela! -- a mouse-driven editor to help you creating graphs. AOCP -- enhanced version of Deluxe Paint IIe v3.0. bomb -- an interactive graphics program. CEDRAT's Software -- a complete line of CAD programs for electromechanical and thermal engineering. CorelDraw -- graphics program featuring type control, drawing power and special effects. Dive -- a internet-based multi-user virtual reality system. draw-call-graph -- transforms a call graph in text form into postscript or LaTeX source file. Drawing editors based on ivtools -- extensions to InterViews and its drawing editor (idraw). EMA-XPS -- a hybrid graphic expert system shell. EnvDraw -- an environment diagramming package. ffGraph -- a C++ class library to create, manipulate and display 2 or 3 dimensional directed graphs. Gfig -- a vector like drawing plug-in for the gimp. GIGVIZ -- 3D design visualization software for designers, engineers, architects and CAD users. GIMP -- a Ph*t*Shop-alike photo-editing, painting, and image manipulation package. Ginger (under development) -- an interactive graph editor. Graph Applet -- a basic tool for playing around with graphs. GraphEd -- graph editor with support for graph grammars. Graphlet -- a toolkit for implementing graph editors and graph drawing algorithms. graphviz -- tools for viewing and interacting with graph diagrams. GYVE -- a project to develop a drawing program in the spirit of Adobe Illustrator and Corel Draw. Hydra -- distributed multi-user computer aided physics and engineering package. Interactive Graph Drawing -- a Java-based system for doing interactive graph drawing on the WWW. IPAD -- an interactive GUI vector drawing package based on a multiplatform tool. Ipe -- a drawing editor for creating figures for LaTeX documents. ICAADS CAD Systems -- a set of high-end software for CAD and AEC applications. LDS Draw -- a Logical Data Structure (LDS) editor. MicroStation 95 -- professional software for enterprise-scale engineering projects. The NELSIS CAD Framework -- enables tool integrators to build design engineering environments. OpenDesigner -- a project to develop a fully extendable CAD application. PadDraw -- a zoomable drawing application written using the Pad++ widget. Picasso -- an interactive drawing tool based on Tcl/Tk. PO -- Linux svgalib painting program. SISCAD-P -- 2D CAD system for engineers. TCM -- a suite of graphical editors. Tgif -- interactive 2D drawing facility. tkdraw -- a very simple drawing tool. VCG TOOL -- reads a textual specification of a graph and visualizes the graph. VGJ -- a tool for graph drawing and graph layout written in Java. VRMLplot.m -- a MATLAB macro for generating 3D VRML graphs and animations. Unidraw -- a C++ class library for 2D structured graphics, dataflow, etc. Xfig -- a tool that allows user to manipulate objects interactively. XPaint -- simple color image editing tool. YADE -- an extensible and configurable program for editing different kinds of diagrams. Also Check Out: daVinci -- an interactive graph visualiztion system. VARKON -- open general purpose interactive modeling system. Varimetrix VX -- engineering and manufacturing CAD/CAM/CAE tools. --- -- At\'e breve === Pedro Quaresma de Almeida Departamento de Matem\'atica Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia Universidade de Coimbra P-3000 COIMBRA, PORTUGAL e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] url: http://www.mat.uc.pt/~pedro/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: cc:Mail under Linux (was: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #224 (fwd))
Dave Burchell wrote: Hey Kevin, Me too! I also want to get cc:Mail working under LInux. But I am going to try to get the DOS version running. On my main machine I have an old kernel (well, 2.0.27) so I'm going to try to bring it up on our new 200Mhz box. I'm planning to do dosemu, but setting it up is pretty involved, especially if you want IPX to work. Tell me more about the error you get. Do you run an IPX/SPX (netware) network? Is that where your cc:Mail PO is? If so can you see it from WINE? Dave, Glad to see I'm not the only one! grin. Thought I was going mad... The PO is set up on a Netware IPX volume. I use ncpfs to mount it under a subdirectory (/zen), making the entire SYS: and DATA: volumes accessible from my Linux box. The location of the Post Office is under \\ZEN:\DATA\CCMAIL. I put an entry into wine.conf which maps the M: drive to the ccmail Post Office directory. I then run the 16-bit cc:mail program using Wine. cc:Mail loads up with very few complaints from wine - good! cc:Mail logs into the Post Office, and displays the main screen, showing the different folders - inbox, trash etc.. - better! I double-click the inbox folder to get a listing of my email. cc:Mail then informs me with a dialog box Not enough files to open window - aaarrrgh cough As I see it, it's to do with setting up the FILES=30 in MS-DOS config.sys. It looks as if the equivalent setting under Wine needs to be configured. Unfortunately, I could see no way to do this, after reading through all the help files/info associated with Wine :( So I almost got there... I did consider trying to set up dosemu, but I don't have the time to figure out how to configure it for use with mounting Netware volumes etc. Personally, I'd like to see some kind of port of cc:mail to Linux. If I could get my hands on the file specs for cc:Mail Post Offices and email files, then I would definately try to make either a curses-based cc:mail reader, or even an X-windows version. Hope the info above helped you. Rgds. Kevin. P.S. Note the correct email address :) -- Kevin Cave. A Scotsman living in London. Registered Linux User #64441 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: FATAL SERVER ERROR
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Albert Hurd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This newbie would like some help with the following problem: Okay. Follow closely. It began with a cd to /tmp All right so far. and then a rm -r /tmp. You must have been root at this time? /tmp is pretty much necessary for the system to operate. The rm -r command means remove the following directory and everything inside it. That's what killed your system. I then wanted to cd ~ but You can just say cd. If you don't specify where you want to go, cd will take you to your home directory by default. did cd ` byy mistake. This replaced the usual prompt $ by . The prompt is bash's way of asking you for more input to complete the command. Back-quotes need to come in pairs in bash commands, so bash assumed your command was not finished, and asked you for more. In that situation, just press CONTROL-C to abort the command and get your usual prompt back. I then tried to get a new xterm window by clicking the afterstep icon. Nothing happened. Since you'd zapped /tmp, which is where the X server keeps its socket (the connection point for new X programs which want to display on your screen), the new xterm you started could not connect to that socket, and so could not display itself on your screen, instead bombing out without being able to tell you what was happening. I then rebooted and got the the following when I tried startx: Fatal server error: Could not create lock file in /tmp/.tX-lock That was because /tmp didn't exist! Incidentally, rebooting was rather a drastic measure. You should have first tried CONTROL-ALT-BACKSPACE to abort your X session, and then run startx again. Only, in this case, that would have failed, too. Could anyone tell me what happened Hope this helped. and how to recover. Thanhs so much. As Joey said, become root and say mkdir /tmp; chmod 1777 /tmp Make sure you do not use your computer as root as a matter of course; use a different user ID for day-to-day usage, and become root only when necessary to do system administration. That will help avoid accidents like the one you described. -- Charles Briscoe-Smith White pages entry, with PGP key: URL:http://alethea.ukc.ac.uk/wp?95cpb4 PGP public keyprint: 74 68 AB 2E 1C 60 22 94 B8 21 2D 01 DE 66 13 E2 PS: If my messages seem late or out-of-date, it's because I'm communicating in batch mode via floppy-disk-net! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Diff window managers for diff users
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David R Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you and your wife log on as distinct users with distinct home directories, then you can have different .xsession files. This file, if present, will determine what window manager is used. There is a default one somewhere under /etc/X11 that is used if it not present. Actually, that's not -quite- right. There's a file called /etc/X11/Xsession which is always called to start your session, whether or not you have a .xsession file. There's a lot of gunk in /etc/X11/Xsession that you don't want in your .xsession file, so here's a .xsession file that duplicates what happens by default: #! /bin/sh xterm -ls if [ -e /etc/X11/window-managers ] then for i in `sed 's/#.*//' /etc/X11/window-managers` do if [ -x $i ] then exec $i fi done fi if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm ] then exec fvwm fi exec twm What this effectively says is start an xterm if /etc/X11/window-managers exists try in turn to start each window manager listed there if they all fail, but fvwm is installed, try starting fvwm if all else fails, run twm So, a useful .xsession file could just be: #! /bin/sh exec afterstep ...although some would undoubtedly add a xterm -ls between those two lines. Remember to chmod +x .xsession ! -- Charles Briscoe-Smith White pages entry, with PGP key: URL:http://alethea.ukc.ac.uk/wp?95cpb4 PGP public keyprint: 74 68 AB 2E 1C 60 22 94 B8 21 2D 01 DE 66 13 E2 PS: If my messages seem late or out-of-date, it's because I'm communicating in batch mode via floppy-disk-net! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...
At 12:03 PM 2/16/98 +, Kevin cave wrote: Sorry to be a pest, but can you tell me where I can find the Incoming directory? I'm probably being a bit daft, but I can't seem to find it under ftp.debian.org - if that's where it is.. Since the package ncpfsx is new, processing takes longer than for packages that already exist so it'll take some time until you see it in the main Hamm distribution. New packages always stay in the Incoming directory of master.debian.org that is the directory that receives package uploads done by the Debian maintainers. If you want to use a new package before it is integrated into the main distribution, you need to use a site that mirrors that directory. Try ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-incoming. Regards, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 Cel.: +58-16-234700 Where does this path lead? said Alice Depends on where you want to go. Said the cat (Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: more ?s on ISDN and PPP ...
Thanks to all who responded. There were numerous correct answers, with the chat file being the cleanest. Cheers, -- Until we extend the circle of our compassion to all living things, we will not ourselves find peace -Albert Schweitzer Richard G. Roberto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Diff window managers for diff users
If you use startx, it is also possible to create an .xinitrc file in your home directory and specify the window manager to use on the last line as follows (you can start by copying the system .xinitrc in (I believe) /etc/X11): exec fvwm2 (or olvwm, etc.) The man page for X explains this clearly. hth. -Original Message- From: Daniel Martin at cush [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Krzysztof Adamski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Diff window managers for diff users David R Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Krzysztof Adamski wrote: Hi What do I have to do to let different users on the same machine use different window mamager? I have installed afterstep, and my wife was using it, but leter I added fvwm2, now she wants after step back, but I want to use fvwm2. K If you and your wife log on as distinct users with distinct home directories, then you can have different .xsession files. This file, if present, will determine what window manager is used. There is a default one somewhere under /etc/X11 that is used if it not present. To be a bit more explicit about what is needed, and what happens: When xdm starts a session (i.e. once someone logs in successfully) it simply executes the file /etc/X11/Xsession - this file does some standard things (involving setting X resources, among other things), and then, depending either on whether or not the user has a .xsession file in their home directory, exec's .xsession or exec's the default window manager (which will be the first window manager listed in /etc/X11/window-managers that exists). So, if a certain user wants to use a certain window manager instead of the default, they should create a ~/.xsession file with the line: exec afterstep (or 'exec fvwm2' or whatever) and make this file executable with chmod: chmod a+rx .xsession .xsession files can also be used to do certain setup things - start specific X programs each time one logs in, start ssh-agent (for those who use ssh), etc.; note that some of these setup parameters are often best left to the window manager, and the details on how to set up each window manager vary from wm to wm. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...
[cross-posted to debian-devel to get developer's feedback] Hi, At 09:15 AM 2/15/98 -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: OK guys, I finally managed to make ncpfs-2.1.1 compile and work under libc6. I have just released a new package called ncpfsx. Use this package if you want to play around with ncpfs and kernels 2.1.29. For older kernels use package ncpfs. Would it be more convenient to merge the ncpfs and ncpfsx packages and include stub scripts that check the kernel version and call the appropriate binary based on whether it's 2.0.x or 2.1.x? Is this possible? I have thought about this but have been unable to find a better solution. The problem is that upstream ncpfs-2.0.x and ncpfs-2.1.x are different packages and I don't know how to create a binary package (a .deb) from two different source packages. Also, packages ncpfs and ncpfsx have lots of binaries, not just the ncpmount and ncpumount binaries, so this will add more complexity to these stub scripts. If someone comes with a better solution than having two packages I am willing to consider implementing it. Some people suggested that I use alternatives. That looks like a good idea for packages with a small number of binaries like packages smbfs and smbfsx but for packages like ncpfs and ncpfsx the number of alternatives that would need to be set up is quite large. So, in this case, I preferred to have ncpfs and ncpfsx conflict with each other so only one can be installed at any time. Regards, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 Cel.: +58-16-234700 Where does this path lead? said Alice Depends on where you want to go. Said the cat (Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...
Eloy A. Paris wrote: At 12:03 PM 2/16/98 +, Kevin cave wrote: Sorry to be a pest, but can you tell me where I can find the Incoming directory? I'm probably being a bit daft, but I can't seem to find it under ftp.debian.org - if that's where it is.. Since the package ncpfsx is new, processing takes longer than for packages that already exist so it'll take some time until you see it in the main Hamm distribution. New packages always stay in the Incoming directory of master.debian.org that is the directory that receives package uploads done by the Debian maintainers. Thanks Eloy - I knew that was what the reason was... I just didn't knowthe location of a site that mirrored the debian-incoming directory, but thanks to your good self, now I do! If you want to use a new package before it is integrated into the main distribution, you need to use a site that mirrors that directory. Try ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-incoming. Regards, E.- I've downloaded the package now, and will try it out later today. I'll get back to you on whether i'm successfull or not with it soon. regards -- Kevin Cave. A Scotsman living in London. Registered Linux User #64441 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...
At 02:01 PM 2/16/98 +, you wrote: I've downloaded the package now, and will try it out later today. I'll get back to you on whether i'm successfull or not with it soon. So the URL was correct? Great, I didn't try it myself, I just saw a post from someone giving the URL. I am very interested in knowing if the package works as I haven't had too much time to test it. At least for me the utilities ncpmount, ncpumount and slist work. nwuserlist doesn't but I am working on it. Regards, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 Cel.: +58-16-234700 Where does this path lead? said Alice Depends on where you want to go. Said the cat (Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
modconf needs whiptail under hamm
I should have followed the discussion on the modconf package under the unstable or hamm distribution more closely but I didn't. In trying to install the modconf_0.2.16 package I get a message that it requires whiptail but whiptail is not available. This has been the case for over a week and I have vague recollections of messages indicating that whiptail would not be a separate package or something like that. Could someone please tell me how I resolve this? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
How do you patch a debian package?
I downloaded the debian package for message handler email system. Turns out it doesn't view the digest list formats correctly. On checking the net, I found under mh's homepage, there's a patch. I'm a newbie and have very little C expertise, how do I patch the debian package ? Any help is much appreciated. i.b. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
tune2fs errors behaviours
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi all, I would like to know what are the behaviour and problems/beneficts by setting the EXT2 errors behaviour flag to readonly or panic Any comment will be greatly appreciated, many thanks in advance Ulisses -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: latin1 Comment: PGP public key avaliable at http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver iQB1AwUBNOhkHA/N+5+NQ63pAQGJKQMAi9yztIhdm0mMV7i1RUIk+a5Xnj+KENVl 9w/zbILxn7YpHNd1170P2u8dE/AqmGUVFhZOiVX2Q+7crZXiG6t2mfRhKCYUZEMA BNoM1NiY6tgVcN57+HTjgNQzidRTz+mF =RJVu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Can't install samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (the one in hamm)
dselect was unable to upgrade my samba using samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb. I then rather foolishly used dpkg --purge samba to see if a fresh install went better, this was a mistake since it left me with no samba at all instead of the older one. I have copied the dselect messages to the end of this message. Is there a known problem? If not, is there a log file I should look into for more details? Unpacking samba (from .../net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb) ... dpkg: error processing debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/ samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/man/man8/smbmount.8.gz', which is also in package ksmbfs dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bbs for debian?
Hi! Does anybody know of a good piece of BBS software for debian? I'm looking for something like Remote Access for DOS. TIA! Salutacions, Pere __o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:343/108.91 - _`\;_ http://casal.upc.es/~pere/ PGP key available --- (_)/ (_)Lo importante es el concepto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Eloy A. Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that upstream ncpfs-2.0.x and ncpfs-2.1.x are different
packages and I don't know how to create a binary package (a .deb) from two
different source packages.
Ah, that's easy. Just look at how I did it with NIS and how Peter Tobias
does it with the network packages:
ncpfs-2.1.2/debian/
ncpfs-2.0.x/
ncpfs-2.1.x/
Just include the 2 packages into one source package. You need to be
careful with the .orig directory though (keep everything in sync).
Also, packages ncpfs and ncpfsx have lots of
binaries, not just the ncpmount and ncpumount binaries, so this will add
more complexity to these stub scripts.
Just use one stub script, link all the others to it:
#! /bin/sh
kver=`uname -r`
bin=`basename $0`
exec /usr/lib/ncpfs/${kver%.*}/$bin $@
That will execute /usr/lib/ncpfs/xxx/binary where xxx is 2.0, 2.1 or 2.2
(.. or 3.0, etc). Note the Posix ${kver%.*} expression to strip the minor
revision number.
That's supposing the names and basic functionality of the 2.0 and 2.1
series are the same, ofcourse.
HTH
Mike.
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Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...
Eloy A. Paris wrote: At 02:01 PM 2/16/98 +, you wrote: I've downloaded the package now, and will try it out later today. I'll get back to you on whether i'm successfull or not with it soon. So the URL was correct? Great, I didn't try it myself, I just saw a post from someone giving the URL. I am very interested in knowing if the package works as I haven't had too much time to test it. At least for me the utilities ncpmount, ncpumount and slist work. nwuserlist doesn't but I am working on it. So far, the package is working great! The utilities working for me so far are: ncpmount,ncpumount,slist,nprint, nwfsinfo, and you may also be interested to learn, that nwuserlist works flawlessly, both on our Netware 4, and Netware 3 servers. rgds. -- Kevin Cave. A Scotsman living in London, but may move to Japan. Registered Linux User #64441 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) [EMAIL PROTECTED](home) -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mounting /tmp
I'm trying to mount a filesystem (ext2) as /tmp, and am experiencing what I assume to be problems with the permissions. For example, when I type man bash (as a normal user) I get the message: bash: can't create a temporary filename: No such file or directory If I try again after unmounting /tmp, it works correctly. Here is the syntax for the mount (I havn't added an entry to /etc/fstab yet): mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb9 /tmp If anyone can point me to whichever options I need to add in order to make this work, I'd really appreciate it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NFS mounting problem
joost == joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: joost In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Rob Duncan joost wrote: I'm having some problems mounting with NFS. The baffling thing is that the client machine (aidan) can happily mount two other directories from the server (miles), but consistently balks on this one. Thanks joost for your help. Happily, the source was available :-), and a quick look at the code showed me that the error was stemming from a call to lstat(). Turns out that nfsd requires access permission to every component of the path to the exported directory. I had inadvertently removed all world privileges to /usr/local, which meant that nfsd wouldn't allow /usr/local/java to be mounted by anyone. One quick chmod later and I was a happy sysadmin again. Thanks again, Rob. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: any debianized CAD programs?
On 16 Feb 1998 12:43:18 GMT, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: Are there any debianized CAD programs? I'm running hamm, and I don't see any. You may want to look at SAL, Scientific Applications on Linux, http://www.idite-minho.pt/SAL/ or http://SAL.KachinaTech.COM/ or (look in the above urls for others mirrors) --- CAD, Drawing Painting Tools ( Commercial, Shareware, GPL) angela! -- a mouse-driven editor to help you creating graphs. [ .. LOTS of good programs snipped .. ] Varimetrix VX -- engineering and manufacturing CAD/CAM/CAE tools. Wow! :-) That's a lot of programs. I never saw this website before. Sweet. Thanks, -- D a v i d S t e r n -- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: BASH question
For those who are interested, my BASH problems were due to the presence of some control characters in the script file. I was using the ae editor, which in its latest incarnation was inserting a ^M at the end of each line to signify a carriage return. Once I switched to vi I could see the characters, and delete them. This fixed the scripts. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
newbie X windows problems with menu?
I 've got X windows running but after typing startx I get xterm and a menu with only one menu item when I click the mouse.That is to exit. How do I get some of the X applications on the menu ? and get the X programs to work?I'm starting to loose my mind! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Bullshit--Fired for Linux?
Yo- I received this and couldn't believe this! What an irresponsible piece of pro-Microsoft propaganda. Ziff-Davis has sunk to a new low. -Ian btw, pardon my french -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:15:02 -0500 (EST) From: Jesse Berst's AnchorDesk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Team AnchorDesk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fired for Linux? / Win98 Now / Hot Products __Berst Alert COULD YOU GET FIRED FOR CHOOSING LINUX? http://www.zdnet.com/chkpt/adt0216ba/www.anchordesk.com/story/story_1774.html Linux fanatics cite the freeware operating system as a viable alternative to Windows NT. Sure it has technical merits, but can it pass the all-important cover your backside test? Seems to me that championing Linux could be a CLM (career-limiting move) at many large corporations. For your own sake, keep this in mind when reading the glowing articles about its growing popularity. Links, stats and other career-protecting information await you at the site. ~~~ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Can't install samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (the one in hamm)
On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 11:14:34AM -0500, David Gaudine wrote: Unpacking samba (from .../net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb) ... dpkg: error processing debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/ samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/man/man8/smbmount.8.gz', which is also in package ksmbfs dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb dpkg --purge ksmbfs before you install samba. ksmbfs is an old name for samba IIRC. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
So what is ksmbfs pkg for?
On 14 Feb 98 at 23:00, Remco wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, Richard B. Talley wrote: : I can't find smbclient or smbmount anywhere on the system. I've been : through all the FAQ's and HOWTO's. Try the samba package: hamm/hamm/binary-i386/net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb That works great. Thanks. Linux box reaches out across the Ethernet and grabs files from the windoze95 machines just fine. I was under the (apparently false) impression that ksmbfs was sufficient if all you wanted was a smb client on the Linux box, that Samba was necessary only if you wanted a smb server. So what is the ksmbfs pkg for anyway? Richard B. Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect. Tim Berners-Lee http://www.w3.org/Press/IPO-announce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
More BASH questions
Can anyone tell me if there is a way to generate screen dumps of bash sessions? For example, let's say I have a test-mode application that asks for some input and then outputs something in response. Is there a way to have this whole exchange dumped to the printer, so that both the program output and my manual input are copied to the printer? This would be similar to the screen dump capability of DOS. Thanks, -Brent -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Fatal Server error
Hi I have a problem with X-windows setup. Fatal Server error: Cannot open mouse (I/O error) Help me! I have MS mouse (serial port). Should I use insmod to set mouse on? -- Cheers K.Y.Lo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...
Eloy A. Paris wrote: So far, the package is working great! The utilities working for me so far are: ncpmount,ncpumount,slist,nprint, nwfsinfo, and you may also be interested to learn, that nwuserlist works flawlessly, both on our Netware 4, and Netware 3 servers. What??? Are you sure? You're using libc6 and ncpfsx-2.1.1-1, right? I can't get nwfsinfo nor nwuserlist to work here... See ya! Yup! Running Debian Hamm, libc6, the works :)Now running on kernel 2.1.86 on my hamm system... (uname -a...): Linux compaq_4 2.1.86 #1 Mon Feb 16 15:14:45 GMT 1998 i586 uknown (dpkg -l | grep ncpfs): ii ncpfsx2.1.1-1Utilities to use resources from Netware serv (dpkg -l | grep libc6): ii libc62.0.6-3The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files) Output from nwfsinfo: --- compaq_4# nwfsinfo -S ZEN -U it05 -i FileservernameZEN Version 4.11 Revision A Max. Connections 96 currently in use 55 peak connections 80 Max. Volumes 255 SFTLevel 2 TTSLevel 1 Accountversion1 Queueversion 1 Printversion 0 Virt.Consolvers. 1 RestrictionLevel 1 compaq_4# nwfsinfo -S NETSERVER2 -i FileservernameNETSERVER2 Version 3.12 Revision A Max. Connections 25 currently in use 23 peak connections 25 Max. Volumes 64 SFTLevel 2 TTSLevel 1 Accountversion1 Queueversion 1 Printversion 0 Virt.Consolvers. 1 RestrictionLevel 1 - Output from nwuserlist : - compaq_4# nwuserlist -S ZEN Conn User nameLogin time --- 1: ZEN.PiMS Wed Dec 17 08:25:01 1997 2: CCREMOTE Mon Feb 16 11:23:38 1998 3: UNIX_SERVICE_HANDLER Wed Dec 17 08:25:15 1997 4: UNIX_SERVICE_HANDLER Wed Dec 17 08:25:15 1997 5: CREATIVE Mon Feb 9 09:38:47 1998 6: E11 Mon Feb 16 11:10:25 1998 7: ZEN.PiMS Thu Jan 15 18:20:09 1998 8: CCREMOTE Thu Jan 29 10:38:49 1998 etc. Hope this helps... Regards, -- Kevin Cave. A Scotsman living in London, but may move to Japan. Registered Linux User #64441 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) [EMAIL PROTECTED](home) -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: newbie X windows problems with menu?
Yo- What window manager are you running? -Ian I 've got X windows running but after typing startx I get xterm and a menu with only one menu item when I click the mouse.That is to exit. How do I get some of the X applications on the menu ? and get the X programs to work?I'm starting to loose my mind! _ .__. ___ ___ | | .__. .__..__. .__. .__. \ \/ / | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / | | | | | |\ \ | | | | | | \ \/ / | |__.| | | | \ \| | | |_| | / /\ \ |__|__.|__| |__| \| |___| /__/ \__\ * DEBIAN GNU/Linux * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...
At 09:15 AM 2/15/98 -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: OK guys, I finally managed to make ncpfs-2.1.1 compile and work under libc6. I have just released a new package called ncpfsx. Use this package if you want to play around with ncpfs and kernels 2.1.29. For older kernels use package ncpfs. Would it be more convenient to merge the ncpfs and ncpfsx packages and include stub scripts that check the kernel version and call the appropriate binary based on whether it's 2.0.x or 2.1.x? Is this possible? I have thought about this but have been unable to find a better solution. The problem is that upstream ncpfs-2.0.x and ncpfs-2.1.x are different packages and I don't know how to create a binary package (a .deb) from two different source packages. I have run into this problem myself a couple of times. What you have to do is put both source packages under a directory and make that directory the source package. It's not lovely, but it works. The Debian source package mechanism isn't intended to fit all possible packaging methods; witness my troffcvt and checker packages, which both have 8 or 10 different tarballs needed for compiling. Also, packages ncpfs and ncpfsx have lots of binaries, not just the ncpmount and ncpumount binaries, so this will add more complexity to these stub scripts. I didn't realize how many there were. However, I think this can still work. Try this: All the 2.0.x versions get installed as name-2.0.x All the 2.1.x versions get installed as name-2.1.x The generic stubs are installed as name, which are all symlinked to `nwstub' (or whatever name). `nwstub' is the following script, or an adaptation of the same idea: #! /bin/sh echo $0-`uname -r | cut -b 1-3`.x $* If someone comes with a better solution than having two packages I am willing to consider implementing it. Some people suggested that I use alternatives. That looks like a good idea for packages with a small number of binaries like packages smbfs and smbfsx but for packages like ncpfs and ncpfsx the number of alternatives that would need to be set up is quite large. So, in this case, I preferred to have ncpfs and ncpfsx conflict with each other so only one can be installed at any time. I agree that alternatives would be clumsy for this. If the sysadmin wanted to switch, he'd have to relink an unreasonable number of files. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: any debianized CAD programs?
On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, David Stern wrote: Are there any debianized CAD programs? I'm running hamm, and I don't see any. Are there any *linux* CAD programs? (That are open source and not proprietary. Haven't found much in this area...) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Hello
Hello! I would like to know how debian handles in a machine with two pentiums. Are two cpus quicker then one in any situation. I mean does every program run quicker. Thanks. Matej Grasic -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
OFF TOPIC: in search for Mr. Scheetz
Hi, sorry for this waste of bandwith, but this message is somewhat debian related. I need to contact Mr. Dale Scheetz, who used to be an active debian developer and debian CD burner (this is the reason why I'm looking for him). I sent many messages to his (old?) address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but never got any answer. If anybody knows how I can contact him, please send me a private message Again, I apoligize for using this very useful list for a 'private' need. -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Can't install samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (the one in hamm)
At 11:14 -0500 1998-02-16, David Gaudine wrote: dselect was unable to upgrade my samba using samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb. I then rather foolishly used dpkg --purge samba to see if a fresh install went better, this was a mistake since it left me with no samba at all instead of the older one. I have copied the dselect messages to the end of this message. Is there a known problem? If not, is there a log file I should look into for more details? Unpacking samba (from .../net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb) ... dpkg: error processing debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/ samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/man/man8/smbmount.8.gz', which is also in package ksmbfs dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb The latest hamm dpkg does not have --force-overwrite enabled by default, this is so overlaps between packages can be easily spotted and corrected. You can do a dpkg --force-overwrite --install path/to/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb manually. The overlap has been reported as a bug, see http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/17/17932.html if you like. -- Joel Espy Klecker Debian GNU/Linux Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.espy.org/http://www.debian.org/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: So what is ksmbfs pkg for?
That works great. Thanks. Linux box reaches out across the Ethernet and grabs files from the windoze95 machines just fine. I was under the (apparently false) impression that ksmbfs was sufficient if all you wanted was a smb client on the Linux box, that Samba was necessary only if you wanted a smb server. So what is the ksmbfs pkg for anyway? I think that the ksmbfs stuff got merged in samba a few versions back. Perhaps the ksmbfs package will disappear eventually. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Kernel compilation
Hi, All i'm going to recompile kernel. i've got kernel-headers, kernel-source and bin86 packages? What is The Debian Way to compiler the kernel? And how compiled kernel will fit into kernel-image package ? i have unstable installed... thanks OK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
usr mounted on md device
In a fit of madness, I created a md device and moved the /usr file system to it. Everything runs fine, except I get an error during shutdown that /usr can't be unmounted. Why do I get the message (or what files are in use at shutdown on /usr), and is there any way to fix it (short of moving /usr off the md device)? Pat -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Hello
I would like to know how debian handles in a machine with two pentiums. = Are two cpus quicker then one in any situation. I mean does every = program run quicker. Generally any particular process will only run on one processor at a time, so particular programs won't run faster. However, two programs can run simultaneously each with a whole processor to themselves, in theory anyway. Anyone with any experience in this want to comment? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More BASH questions
Brent, Try the following cat /dev/vcsaX | lpr Where X is the number of the Virtual Console that contains the output that you want to print. You can do the same to a file: cat /dev/vcsaX screen.dump Hope this helps, Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is a way to generate screen dumps of bash sessions? For example, let's say I have a test-mode application that asks for some input and then outputs something in response. Is there a way to have this whole exchange dumped to the printer, so that both the program output and my manual input are copied to the printer? This would be similar to the screen dump capability of DOS. Thanks, -Brent -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More BASH questions
On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is a way to generate screen dumps of bash sessions? For example, let's say I have a test-mode application that asks for some input and then outputs something in response. Is there a way to have this whole exchange dumped to the printer, so that both the program output and my manual input are copied to the printer? This would be similar to the screen dump capability of DOS. Look at the bash manpage, especially the section about i/o redirection. This may be a bit difficult for starters though. Or look at tee which is in package shellutils. tee lets you redirect output from a process to a file, a printer, a terminal or whatever else unix thinks is a file. Or look at script, which is in bsdutils and will save both input and output to a file. Script is probably the easiest. Just type script, do you thing and when you're finished, type exit (or hit Ctrl-D) and you'll find the session transcript in a file called typescript (can change that with options.) Then you can look at that file and optionally edit it before printing it. Cheers, Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Unidentified subject!
Script started on Mon Feb 16 12:51:17 1998 sh-2.01$ mailx Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. /var/spool/mail/rcook: 1 message 1 unread U 1 rcook Mon Feb 16 11:06 11/343 test p Held 1 message in /var/spool/mail/rcook sh-2.01$ mail Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. /var/spool/mail/rcook: 1 message 1 unread U 1 rcook Mon Feb 16 11:06 11/343 test p 1 Held 1 message in /var/spool/mail/rcook sh-2.01$ mail Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. /var/spool/mail/rcook: 1 message 1 unread U 1 rcook Mon Feb 16 11:06 11/343 test r Held 1 message in /var/spool/mail/rcook sh-2.01$ exit Script done on Mon Feb 16 12:51:46 1998 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Question - Hamm, Mgetty, PPP, wtmp - Arrgh!
I have three dial-in modems on my hamm box. They are all identical USR Couriers AFIAK, and their configuration *appears* to be the same. But one port always shows connect speed in wtmp, and the others do not: mystic:~$ finger Login NameTty Idle Login Time Office Office Phone jeff Jeff Noxon *C2Feb 16 12:09 (C2) pierrePierre *C1 23:48 Feb 15 13:11 (31200/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS) Both users are logged in via AutoPPP with mgetty. C2 is also the DNS name for the ip address associated with the PPP session. The user Pierre is in a different domain, pnhl.com. I would like to get the speed info on my other dial-in ports, but I can't figure out what the difference is. Can anyone make any wild guesses or tell me where I should look, besides /etc/mgetty/* ? Back when I ran bo, I got connect speeds for all three modems. My hamm packages are all 100% up-to-date. Thanks, Jeff -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More BASH questions
On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 10:38:15AM -0700, Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is a way to generate screen dumps of bash sessions? For example, let's say I have a test-mode application that asks for some input and then outputs something in response. Is there a way to have this whole exchange dumped to the printer, so that both the program output and my manual input are copied to the printer? This would be similar to the screen dump capability of DOS. Thanks, -Brent Check out the 'script' program. It will log all input and output to a file. Adam Klein -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Mail setup and configuration
I have successfully upgraded (I think) from Bo to Hamm. Thanks to all who offered advice and helped me along the way. I now want to configure my system for mail, so I can quit using windows for that utility. I have sendmail, fetchmail, procmail, mail, and mailx on my system. I have a local network consisting of a W95 machine and my Linux box, using ip-masquerading to allow the W95 machine onto the net. My local domain is mydomain. My linux box is p90, and the W95 is p75. My isp is icon.net. I can get mail out, but I don't think I'm properly configured. Can anyone offer detailed setup assistance, or point me toward it? Also, I have mail in /var/spool/mail/user . The system tells me it's there, but when I type 'mail' or 'mailx', it gives me the headers, but when I then type p to print the message, it tells me the messages are saved. It won't let me see them. I have looked at them by using 'less /var/spool/mail/user' where user is the username, and I can see that they are not empty messages. Can anyone offer some help? Thanks for any assistance. Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
help me buy a cheap sound card
Hi, I wish to buy a cheap sound card, just to be able to put some sound in my system, but all that I tried failed... Can someone point me a cheap one that (certainly) works under Linux? Thanks. -- Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella Product Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.conexware.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bullshit--Fired for Linux?
George Bonser wrote: Agreed, cancel all subscriptions to ZD magazines. Badmouthing Linux could be a career limiting move for an editor. And as Bugs Bunny would say - What a maroon!. On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Yo- I received this and couldn't believe this! What an irresponsible piece of pro-Microsoft propaganda. Ziff-Davis has sunk to a new low. -Ian btw, pardon my french -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:15:02 -0500 (EST) From: Jesse Berst's AnchorDesk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Team AnchorDesk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fired for Linux? / Win98 Now / Hot Products __Berst Alert COULD YOU GET FIRED FOR CHOOSING LINUX? http://www.zdnet.com/chkpt/adt0216ba/www.anchordesk.com/story/story_1774.html Linux fanatics cite the freeware operating system as a viable alternative to Windows NT. Sure it has technical merits, but can it pass the all-important cover your backside test? Seems to me that championing Linux could be a CLM (career-limiting move) at many large corporations. For your own sake, keep this in mind when reading the glowing articles about its growing popularity. Links, stats and other career-protecting information await you at the site. ~~~ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser If NT is the answer, you didn't understand the question. (NOTE: Stolen sig) http://www.debian.org Debian/GNU Linux ... the maintainable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary bought a pair of skates upon the ice to frisk now wasn't that a crazy way her sweet young *? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Xrsh?
I need to use xrsh to connect to some hosts at a university where ssh isn't installed. Is there a debian-compatible version around anyplace? Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | So don't beg, and don't plead. | | You can't have the heart you make bleed. | |-- The Beautiful South, Love is... | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel compilation
Oleg Krivosheev wrote: Hi, All i'm going to recompile kernel. i've got kernel-headers, kernel-source and bin86 packages? What is The Debian Way to compiler the kernel? And how compiled kernel will fit into kernel-image package ? Check out the kernel-package package. i have unstable installed... thanks OK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary bought a pair of skates upon the ice to frisk now wasn't that a crazy way her sweet young *? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: any debianized CAD programs?
On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:06:33 EST, Michael Stutz wrote: Are there any *linux* CAD programs? (That are open source and not proprietary. Haven't found much in this area...) If you mean today, and fully featured, then I don't think so, no. However, there may be some alternatives, depending on your needs, if you need something today -- use the SAL website and look around. http://SAL.KachinaTech.COM/E/2/ One item of interest may be a MicroStation academic version which is alleged to be affordable and well-featured, although I have no first hand knowledge, and does not meet your criteria for being gpl. http://www.bentley.com/products/microstation95/ There's also a minimalist 2d (gpl) named FreeDraft. http://pw2.netcom.com/~iamcliff/FREEdraft.html For the future, Open Designer, as far as I can tell, will meet all of your criteria; however it is in the early development stages. It has a mailing list (archives are still reasonably small), faq, .. http://www.fpa-engineers.com/OD/ -- D a v i d S t e r n -- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Ordering LINUX
Dear, We would like to start with LINUX Please can you tell us the right price and coordinates for ordering you package ? Sincerely, (Tat2)Spin Stem onze site naar de TOP !!Gelieve desbetreffende buttons aan te klikken op onze site.Wij danken U reeds bij voorbaat. De eerste Nederlandstalige tatoeerder / auteur op Internet De eerste Nederlandstalige vraagbaak voor tatoeages op Internet : Http://ping4.ping.be/tattoo-spin TATTOO SPINAuteur : De complexiteit van tatoeage Puursesteenweg 147B - 2880 BORNEM Tel. 03/ 889.81.60 ( Tussen 13.00 21.00 uur -- Dinsdag t.e.m. Zaterdag )Fax. 03/ 889.53.44E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More BASH questions
On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 10:38:15AM -0700, Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is a way to generate screen dumps of bash sessions? For example, let's say I have a test-mode application that asks for some input and then outputs something in response. Is there a way to have this whole exchange dumped to the printer, so that both the program output and my manual input are copied to the printer? This would be similar to the screen dump capability of DOS. The way I usually use is to go into emacs, go into shell mode (alt-x shell enter, for non-emacs users), run whatever command, edit the output, and print it (alt-x lpr-buffer). Fast flexible. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel compilation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oleg Krivosheev) writes: I'm going to recompile kernel. I've got kernel-headers, kernel-source and bin86 packages? What is The Debian Way to compiler the kernel? And how compiled kernel will fit into kernel-image package ? A good way to do this is to use the kernel-source and kernel-package packages. After installing both packages, do the following (as root): 1) Type: cd /usr/src/linux 2) Type: make config [make menuconfig also works, as does make xconfig in X] 3) Configure your kernel by answering the questions. 4) Type: make-kpkg --revision version kernel-image where version is the version number that you want to assign to the new package that you are building. One good scheme is to use your host name followed by a revision number as in hostname.1. 5) Install (using dpkg -i) the package in the file /usr/src/kernel-image-kernel version_version_arch.deb where kernel version is the version number of the kernel, such as 2.0.32 or 2.0.33; version is the version number from step 4; and arch is the architecture type of the machine you are using, probably i386. 6) You should save the /usr/src/linux/.config file. It contains the configuration of your newly created kernel, which you later can use to build new kernels. Simply place this file in /usr/src/linux/.config before using make-kpkg. 7) You can now remove the kernel-source package. a) Type: cd /usr/src/linux b) Type: make-kpkg clean c) Type: cd .. d) Type: dpkg --purge kernel-source-kernel version Brian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: help me buy a cheap sound card
I wish to buy a cheap sound card, just to be able to put some sound in my system, but all that I tried failed... Can someone point me a cheap one that (certainly) works under Linux? How cheap? You can get a genuine SoundBlaster 16 for pretty cheap if you shop around, and they certainly work under Linux. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel compilation
Oleg Krivosheev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK What is The Debian Way to compiler the kernel? OK And how compiled kernel will fit into OK kernel-image package ? Install the kernel-package package and kernel sources. Run make *config as usual, then use make-kpkg to build the various kernel-* packages (kernel-source, kernel-image, kernel-doc, kernel-headers). You can then install the new kernel with dpkg -i kernel-headers-ver_minor.deb. -- _ / \ The cat's been in the box for over | David Maze | 20 years. Nobody's feeding it. The | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |cat is dead. | http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ | -- Grant, on Schroedinger's Cat \_/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: True Type fonts for X11?
Christopher Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I finally got PPP working and got Navigator 4.04 installed and was shocked to see how ugly the fonts were! They are these tiny little pixelated things that are stressful to the eyes to read. Even as I am typing this I am appalled! Where can I get more fonts, most importantly True Type fonts? I got all the fonts in section X11 so where do I go now? The text on some pages is completely unreadable, like home.netscape.com, where the browser automatically took me after firing up for the first time. I configured my X11 to use the 35 standard PS type1 fonts from URW that comes with gs 4.x and later. Just symlink these files into e.g., /usr/local/X11/lib/X11/fonts/urw and run type1inst to get the files fonts.dir und fonts.scale. If someone is interested I could email the fonts.dir, fonts.scale, and a shell script making the symlinks. BTW: I hope the license of URW for Aladdin allows this usage of these fonts. Torsten -- I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere. Fortune Cookie PGP Public key available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Smail pop3
Can anyone tell me how to configure smail as a pop3 server? I can send from my Netscape just find but I cannot pull the messages off the server with Netscape. When I'm on the mail server, I can check my mail just fine also. I am setting up my pop3 (and SMTP)server in Netscape as the machinename.domain.com and it works to send. The server will send and receive, but Netscape cannot even connect to the mail server to pull the messages from it. Any clues? Thanks, Greg Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel compilation
David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DZM You can then install the new kernel with dpkg -i DZM kernel-headers-ver_minor.deb. umm, install the kernel-image package if you actually want to install the kernel. Silly me. -- _ / \ The cat's been in the box for over | David Maze | 20 years. Nobody's feeding it. The | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |cat is dead. | http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ | -- Grant, on Schroedinger's Cat \_/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bullshit--Fired for Linux?
George Bonser wrote: Agreed, cancel all subscriptions to ZD magazines. Badmouthing Linux could be a career limiting move for an editor. Well, if Linux is ever going to establish itself as more than a hobbie OS, it (the Linux community and the free software community in general) needs to be able to gracefully withstand a lot more heat than that article dishes out. Keith -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
FW: Unidentified subject!
The following script shows my attempts to read my mail using mailx. Results are the same for mail. Is the command 'p' used to print the message to the terminal, as the man page states? I have been utterly unsuccessful in reading my mail under Linux, resorting to windows for that purpose. I also am still struggly to get sendmail properly configured. All replies welcome! Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: Russell Cook[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 16, 1998 11:57 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:Unidentified subject! Script started on Mon Feb 16 12:51:17 1998 sh-2.01$ mailx Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. /var/spool/mail/rcook: 1 message 1 unread U 1 rcook Mon Feb 16 11:06 11/343 test p Held 1 message in /var/spool/mail/rcook sh-2.01$ mail Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. /var/spool/mail/rcook: 1 message 1 unread U 1 rcook Mon Feb 16 11:06 11/343 test p 1 Held 1 message in /var/spool/mail/rcook sh-2.01$ mail Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. /var/spool/mail/rcook: 1 message 1 unread U 1 rcook Mon Feb 16 11:06 11/343 test r Held 1 message in /var/spool/mail/rcook sh-2.01$ exit Script done on Mon Feb 16 12:51:46 1998 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Release names??
Ben Pfaff wrote: Please excues the question, but as a matter of interest, where are the names for the Debian releases derived? i.e. bo, hamm etc?? Characters from _Toy Story_ by Pixar. Does this mean there is going to be a Mr Potato Head release? :) Keith -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bullshit--Fired for Linux?
May work for the good guys , though. If you check the list of responses at the bottom of the cited page, they (surprise) overwhelmingly support Linux. On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Yo- I received this and couldn't believe this! What an irresponsible piece of pro-Microsoft propaganda. Ziff-Davis has sunk to a new low. -Ian btw, pardon my french -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:15:02 -0500 (EST) From: Jesse Berst's AnchorDesk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Team AnchorDesk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fired for Linux? / Win98 Now / Hot Products __Berst Alert COULD YOU GET FIRED FOR CHOOSING LINUX? http://www.zdnet.com/chkpt/adt0216ba/www.anchordesk.com/story/story_1774.html Linux fanatics cite the freeware operating system as a viable alternative to Windows NT. Sure it has technical merits, but can it pass the all-important cover your backside test? Seems to me that championing Linux could be a CLM (career-limiting move) at many large corporations. For your own sake, keep this in mind when reading the glowing articles about its growing popularity. Links, stats and other career-protecting information await you at the site. ~~~ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Ordering LINUX
Spin wrote: Dear, We would like to start with LINUX Please can you tell us the right price and coordinates for ordering you package ? The following web page details sources for ordering Debian GNU/Linux. http://www.debian.org/vendors.html Behan -- Behan Webster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-613-224-7547 http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Update
Hello I had a running debian linux 1.1 system. The I tried to update it directly to 1.3 from CD from a PC-newspaper. This does not work. Then I found in the internet this help for updating 1.1 to 1.3 dpkg --clear-avail dpkg -i ldso_*.deb dpkg -i libc5_*.deb dpkg -i dpkg_*.deb dpkg-ftp_*.deb dpkg --purge --force-depends texbin position 4 and 5 break down with an error message and now I cannot find any libc5 and libc5-dev in my system. shell scripts and compile programs are not running anymore. Is there any chance to update the system and get it running again without remouving everything and without total new installation? Thanks for the help Thomas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More BASH questions
I usually use gmp package for selecting with mouse an interesting area of the screen and pasting it into my favorite editor (joe) on another virtual console. Wojtek Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is a way to generate screen dumps of bash sessions? For example, let's say I have a test-mode application that asks for some input and then outputs something in response. Is there a way to have this whole exchange dumped to the printer, so that both the program output and my manual input are copied to the printer? This would be similar to the screen dump capability of DOS. Thanks, -Brent -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel compilation
Oleg Krivosheev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'm going to recompile kernel. i've got kernel-headers, kernel-source and bin86 packages? You should add kernel-package What is The Debian Way to compiler the kernel? The Debian Way is to read and follow the documentation in /usr/doc/kernel-package. And how compiled kernel will fit into kernel-image package ? see abocve HTH, Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key from: http://www.weh.rwth-aachen.de/~jens/public.asc Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
HowTo?: Log Everything - file
Ok, ok, I haven't posted a Linux-For-Dummies question in quite awhile, so here goes: What's the trick to getting into a file all the contents of a console session, i.e. commands, and the output of commands, into a log file for that session? I have fooled around with $bash --login session.txt, but that doesn't grab everything that goes by on the screen. I'm sure this is hidden somewhere in my dog-eared copy of _Running Linux_, but I'll be ding-danged if I can find it. TIA - Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Esmond, R.I. http://www.brainiac.com/bernie -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: usr mounted on md device
Patrick Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a fit of madness, I created a md device and moved the /usr file system to it. Everything runs fine, except I get an error during shutdown that /usr can't be unmounted. Why do I get the message (or what files are in use at shutdown on /usr), and is there any way to fix it (short of moving /usr off the md device)? You can try and insert a lsof /usr in the shutdown process, just before the /usr is umounted. This might give you the answer. HTH, Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key from: http://www.weh.rwth-aachen.de/~jens/public.asc Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Incredibly huge /var/log/lastlog
On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 10:00:17PM +0100, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin R. Telmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a recent hamm upgrade (two or three days ago) on my machine (pretty much a single user machine) I noticed that /var/log/faillog and /var/log/lastlog are incredibly large (particularily lastlog): -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1522440 Feb 10 23:03 faillog -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18523020 Feb 11 09:18 lastlog Probably the struct lastlog is a bit bigger, but remember these files are mostly empty. The file is probably not taking 18 MB on disk -- try a du lastlog to see how many bytes it is really taking. Would someone mind to explain me and the others what fixed seize files are and why ls shows the wrong information? What is a struct lastlog? Thank you, Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: spam mail or mail relay
On Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 04:43:29PM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 1998 at 09:03:34AM +0700, Wiria A Kusuma wrote: Hello.., I would like to ask what are the terms spam mail and mail relay? are they the same thing? how does it work and how to prevent them?, or may be you can point me to the right direction where I can find more info about it... They're not equal. . Relayed Mail is delivered through an innocent system that accepts such mail. It is delivered to senders outside of the local area (including MX hosting c). Modern MTA's doesn't allow this anymore. Our server lists.debian.org does only accept mail for its own domain, not for others, no relaynig allowed. Thanks for the explanation. Now I would like to know how do I stop mail relaying in smail. I heard some people say smail is the biggest culprit and I need to get something like exim or sendmail. Is smail that insecure? And how can I know I am secure? It was. A new version with anti-spamming-features is available in unstable. BUT there are a lot of bugs against current smail and upgrading is not guaranteed to work. If you need the extra features (and are able to configure smail to your needs), then you may want to ignore my warning and try your luck. Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Release names??
Ben Pfaff wrote: Please excues the question, but as a matter of interest, where are the names for the Debian releases derived? i.e. bo, hamm etc?? Characters from _Toy Story_ by Pixar. Does this mean there is going to be a Mr Potato Head release? You missed the `tater' release? How could you have? It was really cool :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel compilation
Hi,
May I suggest the kernel-package package? Having installed it,
the README file in /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz should be a
reasonable HOWTO.
I am enclosing the latest version of the document, which has
been expanded and bug fixed.
manoj
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$Id: README,v 1.13 1998/02/13 19:40:35 srivasta Exp $
This is the Debian Linux packaging scripts for the Linux kernel.
This package has been put together by Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED].
INSTALLATION NOTES:
To use this package to create kernel-image packages, you need to get
the kernel source (available from your favorite Linux archive),
unpack your kernel somewhere. Preferably somewhere other than
/usr/src/linux (more on this later).
Before you go any further, please allow me to point out that you need to
have a few other packages installed before you can compile your own kernels
(it is difficult to compile anything without a compiler ;-).
Firstly, you will need gcc, the libc development package (libc5-dev at
the time of writing), and, on Intel platforms, bin86. [If you use the
menuconfig target of make, you will need ncursesX.X-dev, and make xconfig
also requires tkX.X-dev, and other packages these depend on]
The packages suggested are:
devel:gcc, libc5-dev, binutils, make, and, for intel x86 platforms,
bin86 (non-intel platforms don't need this).
interpreters: awk, which is contained in either the mawk or gawk packages
base: gzip, shellutils, and grep.
Of course, pretty gui front ends to kernel configuration require more
packages, but they are not strictly essential (though quite nice really).
For the Brave and the impatient:
1% cd kernel source tree
2% make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig and configure
3% make-kpkg clean
4% make-kpkg -revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image
5% dpkg -i ../kernel-image-X.XXX_1.0_arch.deb
6% shutdown -r now # If and only if LILO worked or you have a means of
# booting the new kernel. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!
Unpacking kernel sources:
-
On a debian system, /usr/src/linux always either contains
include/{linux,asm} or points to a directory which contains
those subdirectories, usually a directory with the full kernel
source or a directory with just the kernel headers.
Debian has standardized on /usr/src/linux being a link (that is the
case if you install released debian kernel packages, and has been
for a while now).
If you like living on the edge and compiling your own kernel
packages ;-), you have to follow the convention of letting
/usr/src/linux be a link, and unpack the pristine kernel sources
someplace else.
Some of the suggestions about where to unpack the kernel packages are
a) /tmp/linux
b) /var/tmp/linux
c) /usr/local/src/whatever
d) /usr/src/linux-X.X.XX; where X.X.XX is the version number of the
kernel. Remember to re-link /usr/src/linux to point to this
directory, like: (cd /usr/src; rm linux; ln -s linux-X.X.XX)
In any case, choose a partition that has a large amount of free space,
since recent kernels, unpacked, run to about 23MB, and you need more
than double that in order to create kernel-image, kernel-source, and
the tar file (that is, if you choose to build everything together with
the dist target in debian.rules -- say if you want, for whatever
reason, to run dchanges on the files created). I needed nearly 60MB to
create the full spectrum of packages for version 1.99.7 (and doubtless
this size will go up in the future).
Now, cd linux (wherever you have created the kernel sources).
The version number is deduced from the kernel Makefile directly. to
ensure that the version numbers are in sync(1), so you don't have to
worry about that.
It has been suggested that you renumber the revision number in such a
way that a generic kernel image package will not override the custom
package while using dselect (or dpkg -BOGiE). You may also do this on the
fly by setting the DEBIAN_REVISION environmental variable.
The revision number (the argument supplied after the --revision flag)
has certain constraints:
a) It only has an effect during the configure phase (in other words, if a
file called stamp-configure exists, this option has no effect -- run
[OFF-TOPIC] Pentium II performance?
Hi, I know this is off topic, but I don't have access to cola (and newsgroups in general) and I feel more confortable asking here, because I want Linux specific answers. Ten days ago a professor here bought a Pentium II/233 system. He promptly installed Debian on it, and let me use it for my (thesis) work. First thing I did was to benchmark the thing using a program of my own. This program says a Pentium MMX/166 (my old pc) gives about 24 Mflop/s. A Pentium/100 is about 16 Mflop/s. If the numbers are accurate or not, is not in dispute now. What's important is the relative speed, and I find the numbers quoted to be reasonable. (For those curious, it's 3 sums, 3 multiplications, 1 division) The PII says 39 Mflop/s. Over the weekend, I bargained a PMMX/233, which says 33 Mflops/s. I don't find this this reasonable at all! Taking as a reference the performance leap from a 486DX4 - Pentium (same clock speed) I was kinda hoping something near 80 Mflop/s for the PII (yes, I know, it's silly to take that as a reference, but one can only hope) I know I'm not playing fair comparing the systems this way (different kernels, memory, chipset, ...) but I was hoping somebody could give better statistics on this. I'd really appreciate if somebody can help me on this one. We are planing to build a Debian-based compute farm, and the cost difference between PII's and plain Pentium's could translate into a big difference in the number of hosts installed. Side note: K5/133 = 9; K6/200 = 31; 486/66 = 4; RISC 9000 = 18; VAX 3000... oops, forgot about it, but it was surprisingly low. TIA, Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail pop3
You can't. Instead, you need to install a pop3 server, such as cucipop or qpopper. Note that if you're running netscape on the mail server you don't actually need a pop3 server. Instead, you can use the movemail app which comes with the package. Greg Green wrote: Can anyone tell me how to configure smail as a pop3 server? I can send from my Netscape just find but I cannot pull the messages off the server with Netscape. When I'm on the mail server, I can check my mail just fine also. I am setting up my pop3 (and SMTP)server in Netscape as the machinename.domain.com and it works to send. The server will send and receive, but Netscape cannot even connect to the mail server to pull the messages from it. Any clues? Thanks, Greg Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re[2]: Bullshit--Fired for Linux?
Keith Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if Linux is ever going to establish itself as more than a hobbie OS, it (the Linux community and the free software community in general) needs to be able to gracefully withstand a lot more heat than that article dishes out. In particular the myth that a single source of support is a _good_ thing needs to be dispelled. More often than not this means being shackled to one vendor, and possibly left out in the cold completely if and when that vendor goes under. Also, heat is one thing, but disinformation is another. The author of this article proved himself woefully ignorant on several scores: he only mentioned the RedHat and Caldera distributions, and implied that one had to spend $50 to get good Linux. He also seems completely unaware that tech support for Linux can be purchased, if a company feels the need for that sort of thing. Finally I would submit that it has long since been the case that Linux is *not* a hobbie OS, used only geeks and X-Files fans. There is a _tremendous_ amount of commercial c/c++ development going on right now with Linux as the platform of choice. - Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Esmond, R.I. http://www.brainiac.com/bernie -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail pop3
Sounds like you have to install the package 'qpopper' on the mail server. It is under the section 'mail'. Dennis -- dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED], Network Administrator | work: 353.4844 Division of Engineering Computing Services | page: 222.5875 On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Greg Green wrote: Can anyone tell me how to configure smail as a pop3 server? I can send from my Netscape just find but I cannot pull the messages off the server with Netscape. When I'm on the mail server, I can check my mail just fine also. I am setting up my pop3 (and SMTP)server in Netscape as the machinename.domain.com and it works to send. The server will send and receive, but Netscape cannot even connect to the mail server to pull the messages from it. Any clues? Thanks, Greg Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bullshit--Fired for Linux?
Career limiting move ? I think not... The company I work for chose Linux because : 1. It works 2. Its reliable 3. It does not require HUGE amounts of resources to function. 4. MOST IMPORTANTLY !!! You can get support from people who use it, and know what they are talking about !!! Ian -- From: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Keith Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Bullshit--Fired for Linux? Date: Tuesday, 17 February 1998 5:09 Agreed, cancel all subscriptions to ZD magazines. Badmouthing Linux could be a career limiting move for an editor. On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Yo- I received this and couldn't believe this! What an irresponsible piece of pro-Microsoft propaganda. Ziff-Davis has sunk to a new low. -Ian btw, pardon my french -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:15:02 -0500 (EST) From: Jesse Berst's AnchorDesk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Team AnchorDesk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fired for Linux? / Win98 Now / Hot Products __Berst Alert COULD YOU GET FIRED FOR CHOOSING LINUX? http://www.zdnet.com/chkpt/adt0216ba/www.anchordesk.com/story/story_1774.htm l Linux fanatics cite the freeware operating system as a viable alternative to Windows NT. Sure it has technical merits, but can it pass the all-important cover your backside test? Seems to me that championing Linux could be a CLM (career-limiting move) at many large corporations. For your own sake, keep this in mind when reading the glowing articles about its growing popularity. Links, stats and other career-protecting information await you at the site. ~~~ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser If NT is the answer, you didn't understand the question. (NOTE: Stolen sig) http://www.debian.org Debian/GNU Linux ... the maintainable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: FW: Unidentified subject!
The following script shows my attempts to read my mail using mailx. = Results are the same for mail. Is the command 'p' used to print the = message to the terminal, as the man page states? I have been utterly = unsuccessful in reading my mail under Linux, resorting to windows for = that purpose. I also am still struggly to get sendmail properly = configured. To read mail in mailx, just push enter at the prompt. You probably don't want to use mailx, though. There are much more capable and usable e-mail programs, such as elm, pine, and gnus. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HowTo?: Log Everything - file
What's the trick to getting into a file all the contents of a console session, i.e. commands, and the output of commands, into a log file for that session? Try the script(1) command. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HowTo?: Log Everything - file
Bob Bernstein wrote: What's the trick to getting into a file all the contents of a console session, i.e. commands, and the output of commands, into a log file for that session? The script command. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: HowTo?: Log Everything - file
On 16-Feb-98 Bob Bernstein wrote: What's the trick to getting into a file all the contents of a console session, i.e. commands, and the output of commands, into a log file for that session? 'telnet localhost | tee log_file_name' will work (I found this in the Linux Journal). Frederic Dumont / / (_)__ __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / PGP key 0711F125//_/_//_// /_/\_\ forever!!! http://www.info.fundp.ac.be/~fdm -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bullshit--Fired for Linux?
I'm a newbie with LINUX, but I will blow my horn about something related for today. I know my propaganda (flames off-list from former political opponents, please). Notice how the ZD editor said backside in the line, but can it pass the all-important 'cover your backside' test? The concern with one's backside could say something about the competition (incompetence=treachery?), could it not? I suggest you use this in your most tactful (and tactical) written rebuttals to other magazines. ...tell you what. I'll write one, myself. Art Lemasters, who is writing in MicroGrep as he loads a larger Debian LINUX partition. On 16 Feb 98 at 13:03, debian-user@lists.debian.org wrote: You are, of course correct, but we should give them some idea of how many of their subscribers they have offended ;) On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Keith Beattie wrote: George Bonser wrote: Agreed, cancel all subscriptions to ZD magazines. Badmouthing Linux could be a career limiting move for an editor. Well, if Linux is ever going to establish itself as more than a hobbie OS, it (the Linux community and the free software community in general) needs to be able to gracefully withstand a lot more heat than that article dishes out. Keith George Bonser If NT is the answer, you didn't understand the question. (NOTE: Stolen sig) http://www.debian.org Debian/GNU Linux ... the maintainable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian people taking care of spam
Dear Users and Developers, for some weeks now we have protected our servers against spam via the Realtime Backmail List (RBL) provided by the folks from the Mail Abuse Protection System URL:http://maps.vix.com/. Since we're using Qmail as our Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) relaying is impossible. Since last week we're also reacting on spam and reporting abuse to the abusing party, their provider. For two days Igor Grobman has taken over the job as Anti-Spam Manager. He also informs abuse.net about spam and relaying. So if you receive spam through any of Debian's lists and want to avoid this you should inform [EMAIL PROTECTED] providing _full_ headers. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / To-Zeilen in öffentlichen Nachrichten ist FidoNet-Technologie / / gröhl^^ / / ... endlich 'mal wieder ein echt gelungener Witz!!! / / -- Rainer Scholz / pgpdeKfXxpQAr.pgp Description: PGP signature
