Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 15:10:55 +0200, Alex Moonshine wrote: > Not really a solution to OPs problem, but I've decided that it's much > easier to just use a stand-alone precompiled Firefox downloaded from > Mozilla website, which happily updates itself. Debian's update policy > for Iceweasel is far

Re: Bad interaction between multihead display amd desktops in debian squeeze

2015-11-02 Thread moxalt
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 21:25:45 +0100, Mauro Condarelli wrote: > Hi, > I am struggling to make work my new Debian Squezze installation on my > workhorse. Problem is X setup and its interaction with desktops. > > I have two VGAs: > * intel embedded in my i7 CPU > * external NVidia

Re: [HS] systemd service utilisateur

2015-11-02 Thread Alexandre Hoïde
On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 11:02:17AM +0100, maderios wrote: > […] > Si tu le sens comme une 'usine à gaz', tu parles d'un sentiment, et un > sentiment, cela ne se discute pas... D'acc! Alors considérons cela comme un point final à ce fil et ainsi, co-conjurons la zizanie qu'engendre le sujet. --

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-11-02 07:23:07 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600 > John Hasler wrote: > > >Jack Dangler wrote: > >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a > >> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in

Re: installing/using grub-legacy

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 08:46:58 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 01:14:48 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > > Felix Miata composed on 2015-10-23 21:32 (UTC-0500): > > ... > > > Apparently lack of EXT4 support in grub-legacy on Debian is > > > multifaceted > > > > Problem

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 November 2015 14:34:49 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-11-02 07:23:07 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600 > > > > John Hasler wrote: > > >Jack Dangler wrote: > > >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41

Re: [Debian-Edu_Jessie] quelle solution Proxy pour une école qui était "comment renseigner l'url du proxy de l'académie"

2015-11-02 Thread Raph
Bonjour, Le 02/11/2015 12:51, Christophe De Natale a écrit : Quel est l'intérêt de se connecter au proxy de l’académie ? Tout simplement répondre à la demande que l’on me fait donc respecter les choix qui sont faits et dont je ne décide pas. On n’est pas chez mémé :D En principe un proxy

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 November 2015 12:15:51 Brian wrote: >  And not all of us are fully > > > able-bodied.  You would appear to be able to read well and fast.  Not all > > of us are that fortunate. > > I do not see the relevance of this to reading the Debian documentation > accompanying a release. Unless

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 14:17:39 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-11-02 13:03:14 +, Brian wrote: > > The reason you advance is probably the one which bank's IT section would > > give if you asked them. Quite how a user's browser can compromise the > > security of the site itself is

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Alex Moonshine
On 11/02/2015 03:22 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: But some videos are not supported with official precompiled Firefox versions due to obsolete gstreamer: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947287 Oh, right. I use gstreamer from http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ Yes, I know I just said

Re: installing/using grub-legacy

2015-11-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 01:14:48 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > Felix Miata composed on 2015-10-23 21:32 (UTC-0500): > ... > > Apparently lack of EXT4 support in grub-legacy on Debian is multifaceted > > Problem continues in current incarnation of Stretch. Does bug #511121 not work for you? Or

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 November 2015 07:19:46 Jack Dangler wrote: > Got a msg this morning from online bank service that my browser > (iceweasel) is no longer up to date (equates to ff31) and wants to > 'either update your browser to a compatible version or install one of > the following - [list of usual

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread John Hasler
Jack Dangler wrote: > The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a > jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental). Unstable has 38.3. Works fine. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 14:58:24 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-11-02 13:47:41 +, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 14:17:39 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > The user's browser cannot compromise the site itself. But a security > > > bug may permit an attacker to get the user's

Re: [deb-cat] Trobada 2015

2015-11-02 Thread Mònica Ramírez Arceda
Narcis Garcia writes: > Doncs a veure si surt algú amb un videoprojector. > Jo puc donar una xerrada amb el títol: > «Alliberar Android per utilitzar GNU» Mmmm... no ens hauréim de centrar en coses de Debian? Tot i això, la xerrada em sembla molt xula. Què en penseu la

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 November 2015 04:33:01 Rick Thomas wrote: > On Nov 2, 2015, at 12:45 AM, Joe wrote: > >> To be honest, I see no reason at all why two package managers > >> needed to be included in standard install. If you aren't happy with > >> apt-get, just apt-get install

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Am 02.11.2015 um 15:23 schrieb Charlie Kravetz: > The stable release of Firefox is Version 41.0.2, released Oct 15. > Doesn't that make 38 old? No, it doesn't. 38.x is the currently stable extended support release (ESR) of Firefox. -- Regards mks

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-11-02 15:10:55 +0200, Alex Moonshine wrote: > Not really a solution to OPs problem, but I've decided that it's > much easier to just use a stand-alone precompiled Firefox downloaded > from Mozilla website, which happily updates itself. But some videos are not supported with official

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-11-02 13:47:41 +, Brian wrote: > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 14:17:39 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > The user's browser cannot compromise the site itself. But a security > > bug may permit an attacker to get the user's login and password, and > > neither the bank nor the user would like

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600 John Hasler wrote: >Jack Dangler wrote: >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a >> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental). > >Unstable has 38.3. Works fine. The stable

Re: Dnsmasq si rifiuta di partire al boot

2015-11-02 Thread Pol Hallen
mhmh... se fai: cd /etc/init.d/ insserv dnsmasq? Ciao, sono su Kali GNU/Linux 2.0, dnsmasq è configurato come servizio che starta al boot anche guardando rcconf e sysv-rc-conf, questo il warning: :~# update-rc.d dnsmasq defaults insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-11-02 07:19:46 -0500, Jack Dangler wrote: > The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a > jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental). Yes, it's in experimental. But 41 is *not* the next version. The current stable version is

Re: RE : Icedove: importer de l'Outlook 2013

2015-11-02 Thread Pierre TOUZEAU
Bon en fait, la synchro en question se fait bien sur OBM et concernaient l'agenda, on trouve encore sur internet les 2 outils utilisés : > La récupération de l'agenda se déroule en trois étapes (simples) : > > * > l'installation d'un premier petit logiciel sur l'ordinateur où est >

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 13:48:13 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-11-02 12:35:43 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 07:19:46 -0500 > > Jack Dangler wrote: > > >Got a msg this morning from online bank service that my browser > > > > Your banking service is

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Alex Moonshine
Not really a solution to OPs problem, but I've decided that it's much easier to just use a stand-alone precompiled Firefox downloaded from Mozilla website, which happily updates itself. Debian's update policy for Iceweasel is far from ideal or comprehensive, using third-party repositories is

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-11-02 13:03:14 +, Brian wrote: > The reason you advance is probably the one which bank's IT section would > give if you asked them. Quite how a user's browser can compromise the > security of the site itself is unlikely to be explained. The user's browser cannot compromise the site

Re: [Debian-Edu_Jessie] quelle solution Proxy pour une école qui était "comment renseigner l'url du proxy de l'académie"

2015-11-02 Thread Christophe De Natale
> Le 2 nov. 2015 à 15:45, Raph a écrit : > > Bonjour, > Le 02/11/2015 12:51, Christophe De Natale a écrit : >>> Quel est l'intérêt de se connecter au proxy de l’académie ? >> Tout simplement répondre à la demande que l’on me fait donc respecter les >> choix qui sont faits

Re: [OT] La "lutte contre le logiciel libre": mon expérience récente avec Logitech

2015-11-02 Thread Haricophile
Le Sun, 1 Nov 2015 18:18:13 +0100, honeyshell a écrit : > Aujourd'hui comme il y a 10 ans, le premier réflexe d'un Linuxien est > de se renseigner sur le matériel compatible, ce qui pourrait à juste > titre récompenser les entreprises qui investissent sur la >

Re: [OT] La "lutte contre le logiciel libre": mon expérience récente avec Logitech

2015-11-02 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 01/11/2015 12:10, Bernard a écrit : > Bonjour à tous, > > > Je viens juste de comprendre qu'il existe une troisième catégorie > de concepteurs de logiciels commerciaux, auxquels j'attribuerai > l'étiquette : "Linux Hostiles" ! Et je citerai

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 11:42:50 -0500, Jack Dangler wrote: > On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:23 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600 > > John Hasler wrote: > > > > >Jack Dangler wrote: > > >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is

Re: [OT] La "lutte contre le logiciel libre": mon expérience récente avec Logitech

2015-11-02 Thread VieuxGeek DuSystem
Bonjour Je boycotte déjà logitech, je ne sais plus trop pourquoi, mais je crois que ct pour "vente de produit pourris à la consommation", dans le meme cas j'ai vaio pour "vente de pc sous obsolescence programmée à 3mois" et microsoft bien sur pour "vente de logiciel en version beta" ma liste est

Re: [Debian-Edu_Jessie] quelle solution Proxy pour une école qui était "comment renseigner l'url du proxy de l'académie"

2015-11-02 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 02 November 2015 12:51:05 Christophe De Natale wrote: > > L'intérêt d'une solution Terminaux/Serveur, > > est de n'avoir qu'un seul poste à gérer = le serveur : > Merci André, je n’en suis plus au point de me poser cette question > même si je paraît et que je suis « débutant » et non

Re: [OT] La "lutte contre le logiciel libre": mon expérience récente avec Logitech

2015-11-02 Thread Bernard
honeyshell wrote: Bonjour Bernard, Aujourd'hui comme il y a 10 ans, le premier réflexe d'un Linuxien est de se renseigner sur le matériel compatible, ce qui pourrait à juste titre récompenser les entreprises qui investissent sur la compatibilité avec linux. Tu aurais pu lire :

Re: Synchroniser deux PC

2015-11-02 Thread Sébastien Dinot
Bonjour, JF Straeten a écrit : > Oui : essaye unison ! http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ > > Je l'utilise exactement pour le même cas de figure et ça marche > vraiment très bien :-) > > Il utilise l'algo rsync pour les transferts, donc c'est très efficace, > mais il est surtout

Re: alignement disque dure correct ?

2015-11-02 Thread Francois Lafont
Salut, On 03/11/2015 04:59, Prego Jérémy wrote: > bonjour, > > vu que j'ai des fois pas mal d'erreur de segmentation sur différents > programme de façon complètement aléatoire depuis que j'utilise ce disque > dure, je me demande si les secteurs sont bien alignés. Les segfaults ça ne concerne

Re: Synchroniser deux PC

2015-11-02 Thread Damien TOURDE
Bonjour, Pour l'instant, l'idée est vraiment d'avoir 2 PC "identiques", je verrais plus tard peut-être pour les singulariser avec git ou autre. Merci Damien Le 03/11/2015 06:26, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > On 11/03/2015 03:44 AM, Francois Mescam wrote: >> >> >> On 03/11/2015 01:45, Gaëtan

Re: Installing mSATA Solid State Drive in Dell Precision M3800

2015-11-02 Thread David Christensen
On 11/02/2015 07:49 PM, ken wrote: I'm considering getting a Dell Precision M3800 Mobile Workstation, would want to install my own mSATA SSD in it. Does anyone here have one of these machines? If so, is an SSD a user-installable component? And if so again, how much needs to be taken apart?

Re: Synchroniser deux PC

2015-11-02 Thread Damien TOURDE
Bonjour, Unison a l'air pratique en effet. On peut "bourrinement" dire à unison de synchroniser /home ou il y a des dossiers à absolument ignorer (genre ~/.unison par exemple) ? Merci, Damien Le 03/11/2015 03:44, Francois Mescam a écrit : > > > On 03/11/2015 01:45, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: >> Le

Re: ejecutar scripts

2015-11-02 Thread José Betancourt Mondeja
por fin logré lo que quería. solo puse los ficheros con extensión .desktop en la carpeta /usr/share/gnome/autostart y listo, todo lo que ponga allí se ejecuta al iniciar sesión cualquier usuario incluso los nuevos. un ejemplo de ficheros con extensión *.desktop (autoiniciar el pidgin en todas las

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread John L. Ries
And if you're installing X, then it's reasonable for Synaptic and other GUI admin tools to be part of the default setup. Those who prefer lower level tools and who know enough for that to be a good decision will know how to uninstall what they don't want or need and should have the privilege

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 15:01:16 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 02 November 2015 12:15:51 Brian wrote: > >  And not all of us are fully > > > > > able-bodied.  You would appear to be able to read well and fast.  Not all > > > of us are that fortunate. > > > > I do not see the relevance of

Re: [OT] La "lutte contre le logiciel libre": mon expérience récente avec Logitech

2015-11-02 Thread Philippe Gras
Le 2 nov. 2015 à 19:21, Bernard a écrit : > > J'ai donc remarqué qu'il y avait une autre adresse, et je m'y suis connecté, > sans pour autant obtempérer aux injonctions précédentes de ne s'y présenter > que dans les habits de Microsoft. Et j'ai pu télécharger le fichier

Re: [OT] La "lutte contre le logiciel libre": mon expérience récente avec Logitech

2015-11-02 Thread Pierre Malard
> Le 2 nov. 2015 à 20:24, Philippe Gras a écrit : > > > Le 2 nov. 2015 à 19:21, Bernard a écrit : > >> >> J'ai donc remarqué qu'il y avait une autre adresse, et je m'y suis connecté, >> sans pour autant obtempérer aux injonctions précédentes de

Re: [deb-cat] Trobada 2015

2015-11-02 Thread Narcis Garcia
Debian és un sistema operatiu GNU, a diferència d'Android. Si parlo d'utilitzar GNU, evidentment en aquesta ocasió em centraria en el cas de Debian GNU/Linux. __ I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at lists.debian.org archives. El 02/11/15

Re: installing/using grub-legacy

2015-11-02 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2015-11-02 08:46 (UTC-0600): > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 01:14:48 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: >> Felix Miata composed on 2015-10-23 21:32 (UTC-0500): >> ... >> > Apparently lack of EXT4 support in grub-legacy on Debian is >> > multifaceted >> Problem continues in

Re: Synchroniser deux PC

2015-11-02 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 11/03/2015 03:44 AM, Francois Mescam wrote: On 03/11/2015 01:45, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Le Tue, 03 Nov 2015 01:10:16 +0100 Damien TOURDE a écrit: Bonjour, Je possède un PC fixe, et un PC portable, j'utilise majoritairement le fixe, mais quand je me déplace, je

Re: LXDE Display Coordination

2015-11-02 Thread Felix Miata
ray composed on 2015-11-01 11:26 (UTC-0800): > Thank you for the post. The challenge I have with changing the font is > there are many places where this seems must be done. For example, I can > set the desktop font but not the panel font nor the fonts of the pop ups. > Each application has its

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:27:42 +0200 Alex Moonshine wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:52:37 -0700 > Rick Thomas wrote: > > > As shown below, aptitude has been progressively downgraded from > > “important” in oldstable (Wheezy) to “standard” in stable

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread moxalt
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 01:02:19 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > Logically, doesn't it make more sense to make it so that you install > with the minimum number of packages necessary, and then download any > extra packages you want *after* the install? Yes. In fact, even

Re: Dnsmasq si rifiuta di partire al boot

2015-11-02 Thread Pol Hallen
wrong list... sorry for the mistake On 11/02/2015 05:06 PM, Pol Hallen wrote: mhmh... se fai: cd /etc/init.d/ insserv dnsmasq? Ciao, sono su Kali GNU/Linux 2.0, dnsmasq è configurato come servizio che starta al boot anche guardando rcconf e sysv-rc-conf, questo il warning: :~# update-rc.d

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Jack Dangler
On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:23 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600 > John Hasler wrote: > > >Jack Dangler wrote: > >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a > >> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in

Re: [HS] systemd service utilisateur

2015-11-02 Thread Haricophile
Le Mon, 02 Nov 2015 11:02:17 +0100, maderios a écrit : > Désolé que tu le prennes sur ce ton. Par ailleurs, d'après ce que tu > as écrit sur ce fil, je n'ai toujours pas compris pourquoi, > techniquement parlant, tu ne veux pas de systemd. Juste un petit mot et je me tais.

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 November 2015 16:38:29 moxalt wrote: > On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 01:02:19 +1300, Chris Bannister > > > wrote: > > Logically, doesn't it make more sense to make it so that you install > > with the minimum number of packages necessary, and then download any > >

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread moxalt
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:11:48 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 31 October 2015 16:37:41 Richard Owlett wrote: > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Saturday 31 October 2015 16:18:15 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > > >> El 31/10/15 a las 10:05, Richard Owlett escribió: >

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
El 02/11/15 a las 10:38, moxalt escribió: On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 01:02:19 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Logically, doesn't it make more sense to make it so that you install with the minimum number of packages necessary, and then download any extra packages you want

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
El 31/10/15 a las 16:55, Lisi Reisz escribió: You said "All anyone has to do to avoid them is not install a DE. You are given the option.". That is right; I never claimed otherwise (furthermore, I alluded to this fact when I mentioned installing a text-only environment and then add additional

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 November 2015 19:58:51 Brian wrote: > Your argument appears to be based on the state of a person's eyesight. > It also makes assertions about the state of mine. This is out of line; > you have no knowledge about the state of my sight (and never will). I said "would appear". I was

Re: CONSULTA NETBOOK ACER ASPIRE ONE D250

2015-11-02 Thread libreydivagante
El 01/11/15 a las 15:47, Alberto C. escibió: El dom, 01-11-2015 a las 15:12 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 31 Oct 2015 20:45:21 +0100, Alberto C. escribió: aunque esta consulta se puede convertir en un clásico visto todo lo escrito en las webs sobre su configuración y que no me ha dado

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-11-02 15:00:19 +, Brian wrote: > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 14:58:24 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2015-11-02 13:47:41 +, Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 14:17:39 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > The user's browser cannot compromise the site itself. But a

verizon-netgear aircard 791L (USB) + debian jessie

2015-11-02 Thread rlharris
I am pleased to report that the newly-available (October 2015) Verizon 791L "Jetpack" (aka Netgear "AirCard") appears to be compatible in tethered mode (USB) with Debian Jessie i386 with the Xfce desktop and NetworkManager. The sequence of events was: (1) Immediately out of the box, and without

where does unstable appear from?

2015-11-02 Thread Andrey Rybak
Thats my sources list: # less /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 2, 2015, at 12:45 AM, Joe wrote: >> To be honest, I see no reason at all why two package managers needed >> to be included in standard install. If you aren't happy with apt-get, >> just apt-get install aptitude. It seems beyond question to me that >> having bare

Re: [HS] systemd service utilisateur

2015-11-02 Thread maderios
On 11/01/2015 09:24 PM, Alexandre Hoïde wrote: Il me semble, Madeiros [mais je peux me tromper], que tu es plus désireux d'affirmer une certaine hostilité à la dissidence que de « comprendre la démarche ». En réalité, je pense que tu comprends très bien la démarche, aussi vaine soit elle à

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 22:15:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 02 November 2015 19:58:51 Brian wrote: > > Your argument appears to be based on the state of a person's eyesight. > > It also makes assertions about the state of mine. This is out of line; > > you have no knowledge about the

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 November 2015 23:33:19 Brian wrote: > I can wiggle both my ears at the same time. :) I didn't notice that. Now that _is_ an accomplishment. :-) Lisi

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 November 2015 23:33:19 Brian wrote: > The form of words doesn't matter. It is out of place and unhelpful to > comment on the physical capabilities of a participant on a list of this > nature, especially as a way of countering a argument. To repeat: you > have no knowledge of how easy

Re: [OT] La "lutte contre le logiciel libre": mon expérience récente avec Logitech

2015-11-02 Thread Bernard
Pierre Malard wrote: Le 2 nov. 2015 à 21:54, Bernard a écrit : Pierre Malard wrote: Le 2 nov. 2015 à 20:24, Philippe Gras a écrit : Le 2 nov. 2015 à 19:21, Bernard a écrit : La seule alternative que je pensais

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 23:02:38 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-11-02 15:00:19 +, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 14:58:24 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > On 2015-11-02 13:47:41 +, Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 14:17:39 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > >

Re: Problèmes driver carte nvidia sous Stretch

2015-11-02 Thread Damien TOURDE
Bonjour, J'ai enfin pu "régler" mon problème. L'UEFI d'Apple, n'est en fait qu'un simple EFI, et en plus (on pouvait s'y attendre), ultra spécifique. Donc depuis Jessie, et l'installation en UEFI, on installe grub-efi-amd64, et on démarre le PC en mode EFI. En réalité, en mode EFI, le Mac

Synchroniser deux PC

2015-11-02 Thread Damien TOURDE
Bonjour, Je possède un PC fixe, et un PC portable, j'utilise majoritairement le fixe, mais quand je me déplace, je souhaiterais utiliser le portable. Et l'idée, c'est que les /home soient synchronisés (pour les mails, documents, et configs surtout). J'ai pensé à rsync à lancer sur le PC le

Re: where does unstable appear from?

2015-11-02 Thread Alex Moonshine
Testing/unstable is just a common release name for testing AND unstable. Your sources.list is fine. Filezilla package isn't present in testing/stretch (see https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/filezilla). In fact, if you were running sid, you'd be able to install it.

Re: where does unstable appear from?

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 10:58:15 +, Andrey Rybak wrote: > thanks for your answer.its very strange for me that it is not possible > to use filezilla in testing. i was using testing brunch in several > years and filezilla was presenting in there. am i right? is it ok if i > will change "testing"

Re: where does unstable appear from?

2015-11-02 Thread Alex Moonshine
On 11/02/2015 12:58 PM, Andrey Rybak wrote: thanks for your answer. its very strange for me that it is not possible to use filezilla in testing. i was using testing brunch in several years and filezilla was presenting in there. am i right? is it ok if i will change "testing" to "stratch"?

Re: [Debian-Edu_Jessie] quelle solution Proxy pour une école qui était "comment renseigner l'url du proxy de l'académie"

2015-11-02 Thread Christophe De Natale
> Le 31 oct. 2015 à 21:14, Christophe De Natale > a écrit : > > >> Le 31 oct. 2015 à 00:38, Christophe De Natale >> a écrit : >> >> >>> Le 30 oct. 2015 à 21:05, nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit : >>> >>> Le 30/10/2015 21:00:46,

Re: [deb-cat] Trobada 2015

2015-11-02 Thread Narcis Garcia
Doncs a veure si surt algú amb un videoprojector. Jo puc donar una xerrada amb el títol: «Alliberar Android per utilitzar GNU» __ I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at lists.debian.org archives. El 02/11/15 a les 11:29, Mònica Ramírez

Re: where does unstable appear from?

2015-11-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 10:20:21 + (UTC) Andrey Rybak wrote: Hello Andrey, >Release:    testing/unstableCodename:    n/awhere does unstable appear I've never been sure myself but, for as long as I've used testing, testing systems have always been labelled that way.

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 November 2015 11:16:11 Brian wrote: > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 01:33:01 -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Nov 2, 2015, at 12:45 AM, Joe wrote: > > >> To be honest, I see no reason at all why two package managers needed > > >> to be included in standard install. If

Re: [deb-cat] Trobada 2015

2015-11-02 Thread Mònica Ramírez Arceda
Hola, > Vam quedar a mantenir la cita pel 21 de novembre al mateix local (que > està prou bé) i així donar-nos la oportunitat de conèixer més usuaris de > Debian. Perfecte! > El local disposa de diverses saletes petites amb capacitats d'entre 10 i > 25 persones, amb algunes taules i cadires,

Re: [Debian-Edu_Jessie] quelle solution Proxy pour une école qui était "comment renseigner l'url du proxy de l'académie"

2015-11-02 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 02 November 2015 06:40:55 Christophe De Natale wrote: > Je fais marche arrière en reformulant ma question : quelle solution > Proxy me conseillerez-vous pour une école primaire sachant que > je veux utiliser l’adresse du proxy de l’académie, ne pas avoir > à renseigner celle-ci poste

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 01:33:01 -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Nov 2, 2015, at 12:45 AM, Joe wrote: > > >> To be honest, I see no reason at all why two package managers needed > >> to be included in standard install. If you aren't happy with apt-get, > >> just apt-get

Re: [Debian-Edu_Jessie] quelle solution Proxy pour une école qui était "comment renseigner l'url du proxy de l'académie"

2015-11-02 Thread Christophe De Natale
> Le 2 nov. 2015 à 11:54, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : > > On Monday 02 November 2015 06:40:55 Christophe De Natale wrote: >> Je fais marche arrière en reformulant ma question : quelle solution >> Proxy me conseillerez-vous pour une école primaire sachant que >> je veux utiliser

Re: Synchroniser deux PC

2015-11-02 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Tue, 03 Nov 2015 01:10:16 +0100 Damien TOURDE a écrit: > Bonjour, > > Je possède un PC fixe, et un PC portable, j'utilise majoritairement le > fixe, mais quand je me déplace, je souhaiterais utiliser le portable. > > Et l'idée, c'est que les /home soient synchronisés

Re: Synchroniser deux PC

2015-11-02 Thread JF Straeten
Hello, On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 01:10:16AM +0100, Damien TOURDE wrote: [...] > J'ai pensé à rsync à lancer sur le PC le "plus à jour", mais je me > dis que cela aurait pour effet de bord de "restaurer" tous les > fichiers supprimés (enfin je pense). Ce n'est pas totalement infaisable avec

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-11-02 22:53:03 +, Brian wrote: > An attacker must inject a payload into a web page that the user visits. > When the page loads in the user’s browser the attacker’s payload will > be executed. A user would likely have no knowledge of this, irrespective > of whatever browser or

Re: [deb-cat] Trobada 2015

2015-11-02 Thread Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda
El Dilluns, 2 de novembre de 2015, a les 15:03:41, Mònica Ramírez Arceda va escriure: > Narcis Garcia writes: > > Doncs a veure si surt algú amb un videoprojector. > > Jo puc donar una xerrada amb el títol: > > «Alliberar Android per utilitzar GNU» > > Mmmm... no ens

Installing mSATA Solid State Drive in Dell Precision M3800

2015-11-02 Thread ken
I'm considering getting a Dell Precision M3800 Mobile Workstation, would want to install my own mSATA SSD in it. Does anyone here have one of these machines? If so, is an SSD a user-installable component? And if so again, how much needs to be taken apart? Thanks much.

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post on the debian-user mailing list.] On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 12:34:49PM -0700, John L. Ries wrote: > And if you're installing X, then it's reasonable for Synaptic and other GUI > admin tools to be part of the default setup. I use fvwm, I definitely don't want Synaptic and

alignement disque dure correct ?

2015-11-02 Thread Prego Jérémy
bonjour, vu que j'ai des fois pas mal d'erreur de segmentation sur différents programme de façon complètement aléatoire depuis que j'utilise ce disque dure, je me demande si les secteurs sont bien alignés. j'ai fais mes partition à l'aide de fdisk. Disque /dev/sda : 698,7 GiB, 750156374016

About Hypra project

2015-11-02 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, At DebConf 15 I had introduced the Hypra project to Mario and during a lightning Talk. I had talked about our main dev work: Universally Accessible System. Now we have a translated website, I think it's nice to show you: http://hypra.fr/?-Home-17-=en Because we will work with Debian,

Re: where does unstable appear from?

2015-11-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 01:46:35PM +0200, Alex Moonshine wrote: > On 11/02/2015 12:58 PM, Andrey Rybak wrote: > >thanks for your answer. > >its very strange for me that it is not possible to use filezilla in > >testing. i was using testing brunch in several years and filezilla was > >presenting in

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 07:19:46AM -0500, Jack Dangler wrote: > Got a msg this morning from online bank service that my browser > (iceweasel) is no longer up to date (equates to ff31) and wants to > 'either update your browser to a compatible version or install one of > the following - [list of

Re: Setting up Network for Xen

2015-11-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 19:19:53 -0800 (PST) ray wrote: > I would like to get the network functioning again. This is a laptop with > jessie. The laptop does not have a Ethernet port. It is connected to a > Dynadock USB 3.0. Ifconfig shows the Ethernet port to be

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 04:13:44PM +0200, Alex Moonshine wrote: > > > On 11/02/2015 03:22 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > >But some videos are not supported with official precompiled Firefox > >versions due to obsolete gstreamer: > >https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947287 > > Oh,

Expand your Business

2015-11-02 Thread Dutch.Laraa
Dear debian.org, I’m Dutch Laraa, a new age Digital Marketing consultant. I'm here with some new business insights and probably, this email will answer “Why your website isn't making money?” After a thorough inspection, my research team has given an analysis report that reveals, *●the

Re: missing directory /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/build

2015-11-02 Thread Mirko Parthey
On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 12:18:33AM +0600, EVGeny Dedov wrote: > After reinstall debian I tried to put wireless drivers in OS by usual way > (like > i did it before), and faced with problem when I use "make compile" and "make > install": > > make[2]: *** /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/build: Нет

Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 07:19:46 -0500 Jack Dangler wrote: Hello Jack, >Got a msg this morning from online bank service that my browser Your banking service is being lazy; They don't want to 'support' an older version Ff. If Iceweasel still works on their site, carry on using

Re: [apt] package wel of niet upgraded

2015-11-02 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 02-11-15 om 10:25 schreef Richard Lucassen: > Ik heb twee werkstations die dit doen: > > # apt-get upgrade > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > # apt-get autoremove > Reading package lists...

Re: Anybody know why aptitude is not installed by default in Sid?

2015-11-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 11:37:48 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 02 November 2015 11:16:11 Brian wrote: > > On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 01:33:01 -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > > > > Requiring a newcomer to install aptitude before she can follow the > > > simple step-by-step instructions she

Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Jack Dangler
Got a msg this morning from online bank service that my browser (iceweasel) is no longer up to date (equates to ff31) and wants to 'either update your browser to a compatible version or install one of the following - [list of usual suspects]. The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages

Suspend Issues

2015-11-02 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
The system after waking from suspend fails to load certains things as : 1. Ethernet connection : Shows cable unplugged, I need to run "service network-manger restart" to make it work. 2. Multimedia keys (function keys) don't work after waking from suspend if Rhythmbox is running. I need to restart

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