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Re: Pels administradors de la lllista
Mensaje citado por Robert Garrigós [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Seria possible que el subjecte dels correus de la llista continguin quelcom que els identifiqui fàcilment? Vaja, possible sé que ho és, però us sembla bé? Estic subscrit a altres llistes de correu i totes porten un afegit al subjecte del tipus [nomllista] de tal manera que facilita molt el filtratge dels correus entrants. Jo diria que no cal, per les teves capceleres sembla que fas servir mozilla. A la pantalla de filtres, pots configurar que filtri per TO or CC que contingui debian-user-catala i t'ho mogui a una carpeta. Amb això en tindries prou ? This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: No em reprodueix el cd de música
Missatge citat per Guillem Barba [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hola, no aconsegueixo reproduir un CD de música que poso a la lectora. Ni amb usar DVD em podria portar problemes (perquè el programa havia d'extreure la música i després reproduir-la), ho he intentat des de la grabadora de CD-rom, No em surten errors ni res, i sembla com si reproduís perquè el temps va passant, però no sona res. El sistema de so funciona perquè des de potser és un problema hardware: revisa que la gravadora de CDs tingui un cable que la conecta a la placa d'audio de l'ordinador. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Problem in installing xlibs.
I have problem with installing xlibs in my system,it seem that xlibs has conflicts with xlib6g. How can i remove xlib6g, so that i can install the xlibs? Can i have both xlibs xlib6g in my system? /temp# dpkg -i xlibs_4.1.0-14_i386.deb dpkg: considering removing xlib6g in favour of xlibs ...dpkg: no, cannot remove xlib6g (--auto-deconfigure will help):cxterm-common depends on xlib6g (= 3.3.5) xlib6g is to be removed.dpkg: regarding xlibs_4.1.0-14_i386.deb containing xlibs:xlibs conflicts with xlib6g ( 4.0) xlib6g (version 3.3.6-11potato32) is installed.dpkg: error processing xlibs_4.1.0-14_i386.deb (--install):conflicting packages - not installing xlibsErrors were encountered while processing:xlibs_4.1.0-14_i386.deb Best Regards, Frankie Chun Choon WoonE-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT Re: 42 (was emacs21)
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:11:36PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: Matijs van Zuijlen wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:10:43PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: Chris Jenks wrote: I thought that the book said the book said that the ultimate question is, what is 6 * 9? That was 6 * 7 (!), No, it _is_ 6 * 9, extracted from arthur's head using scrabble letters. The full question is: What do you get when you multiply six by nine? Which book are you reading? That's certainly not in the copy I have in front of me (no reference to scrabble at all). Perhaps it was in the radio or TV show? Or do they get into his head in a later book? Richard It _is_ a later book - this was in The Restaurant at the End of Universe, right at the end. mf -- The danger from computers is not that they will eventually get as smart as men but that we will meanwhile agree to meet them halfway. pgpv1phZkR1In.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MTA recomendations?
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 01:55:59PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote: I'm seting up a new woody box for my wife to use. I need a recomendation on an easy to set up, reliable MTA. Heres the setup, the box will realy all outgoing mail through a local ISP. It will run fetchmail to retireve mail from that ISP, which will then call procmail to use SpamBouncer, which will in turn call the MTA to deliver mall to a local mailbaox. It will be read using elm (or perhaps mutt). I would think this was a failry common stup. Oh, BTW user names on the local box do not map directly to user names at teh ISP, so I need for the MTA to rewrite the sender on the way out, and I need for it to understamd that mail for, say, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is really for the local user sandi. Thanks for any sugestions on this, as this Christmas present is runig a bit behind schedule, and I'm getting a lot of flack from te local user community :-) I'd recommend qmail (fast, reliable, secure) or postfix (fast, reliable, secure, easy to configure (or so I'v heard - haven't tried it yet)). http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html, http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ http://www.postfix.org/ mf (Did you hear that? Sounds like a flamewar coming) -- The danger from computers is not that they will eventually get as smart as men but that we will meanwhile agree to meet them halfway. pgpwtAupFiRhE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Rant
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 08:51:11AM -, Ted Harding wrote:
On 24-Jan-02 Dan Griswold wrote:
dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The LaTeX center environment follows that style too (FWIW). (I
don't believe it is possible to have only part of a line be in a
center environment. Nope, I just tried it. \begin{center} starts a
new paragraph (or at least a line))
The \tabular environment is what you would use for this.
This looks like over-kill! The \tabular envoronment
is heavy.
I don't know TeX well enough to know whether this is the
only option, but I would be surprised if it did not somewhere
have the equivalent of groff's .tl:
.tl 'lefthand string'centre string'righthand string'
which outputs a line with lefthand string left justified,
centre string centred, and righthand string right
justified.
The typical use for such a thing is three-part running
headers on successive pages, which is a very basic
need, and there must be some way in which TeX does this
layout for this purpose, which could be borrowed.
Ted.
In TeX you should write
lefthand string\hfilcenter string\hfilrighthand string
(you can add several more l's to the \hfil's to emphasize the point ;)
mf
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Re: restarting a daemon
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Giulio Morgan wrote: I am trying to modify and reload my exim.conf file. The beginning of the sample conf file says ...you change Exim's configuration file, you *must* remember to HUP the Exim daemon. I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon without rebooting. Any help will be appreciated, thank you so much. -- Giulio killall -HUP daemon kill -HUP `pidof daemon` or just do a ps axu, find the daemon's line and kill -HUP it by pid. mf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The danger from computers is not that they will eventually get as smart as men but that we will meanwhile agree to meet them halfway. pgpFBnFPjA2Ld.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how do i extract a bullet from my foot (tar woes)
On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:26:37PM -0700, allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx wrote: hello: i have managed to insert a bullet in my poda courtesy of tar and my ineptness! that is, i did: tar -cvIf --remove-files /tmp/foo.tz /opt/tmp silly me filled up my current directory with a file called --remove-files. my question is: how the heck to i get rid of this beast rm -- --remove-files (-- turns the option processing off - man getopt) MisoFrankie -- The danger from computers is not that they will eventually get as smart as men but that we will meanwhile agree to meet them halfway. pgpWtTYKJ1s38.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HELP: qmail-smtp isn't started by default????
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 12:16:35PM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote: hello! [...] tcpserver -u 71 -g 65534 0 smtp /usr/sbin/qmail-smtpd this is similar to what i found in the init script: sh -c start-stop-daemon --start --quiet \ --exec /usr/bin/tcpserver -- \ -S -u 71 -g 65534 -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb 0 smtp \ /usr/sbin/qmail-smtpd 21 | logger -t qmail -p mail.notice but only similar can't imagine what the extra struff as /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb is supposed to do and why that command is so complicated anyways the above mentioned line works, while the init line manifestingly doesn't work Do you have /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb? It is a database (sort of - a ``constant database''), used instead of /etc/hosts.*. Read the qmail FAQ (http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq.html) or Life With qmail (http://www.lifewithqmail.org/). HTH HAND MisoFrankie -- The danger from computers is not that they will eventually get as smart as men but that we will meanwhile agree to meet them halfway. pgp2jlMlaKK79.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unrelated to Debian. Telnet
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:38:06AM -0400, Wayne wrote: Hi All, I search the web for an answer, but came up short. Occasionally I get some junk mail that will hang my system and won't let me get my mail. So I telnet into my isp an look for the culprit. The command I use is retr # ---# is the message number. What command do I use to delete the said message. When I do ? or type help I get command unknown. I called my isp to find out what command they use, they did'nt know. Also, can anyone recommend a good book on the subject? Thanks. Wayne DELE # There probably isn't a book on the subject, but you can read the POP3 protocol specification (RFC1725, eg. ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1725.txt) MisoFrankie MisoFrankie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- We are just packets in the Internet of life (UF) pgpBwvsTuyeIn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alias for a user
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:02:38AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to define an alias for a user so that login in as either the user itself or its alias, both goes to the same home dir. How can I do it? Ciao Vittorio You can add a user with the same uid and a different name. (but then there will be one password/everything else for each of the usernames). This is probably evil, but works (for me, at least) MisoFrankie pgpo1vVY3rQ4P.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] Slovak for StarOffice
Is there a slovak spell-checking dictionary for StarOffice? Spell? Ispell? Anything else? All ideas are welcome. aTdHvAaNnKcSe MisoFrankie pgpi45axxibIs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Minimum RAM Requirement.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 11:19:38AM -0600, Mike Brownlow wrote: Simmons-Davis wrote: Hello, I would like to know the minimum amount of RAM a computer needs in order to run a basic Linux setup and then also the minimum for X Window System. See section 2.3 (Memory and Disk Space Requirements) of the Debian Installation Instructions. You can find the instructions on the Debian GNU/Linux website [1]. [1] http://www.debian.org/ The manual states that 12MB RAM is needed for installation. However, I'm using potato (including X) on a 386 with 8MB RAM (couldn't install it, though - had to take the HD and put it in another box with more RAM). The system surely needs 12MB (or more) to run, but much less is enough for it to crawl. MisoFrankie pgpRkhmwd1zrN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Block stupid/annoying sites
On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 10:26:28PM +0200, andreas palsson wrote: Hello. I am using Debian GNU/Linux as a nameserver, and I wonder how do I modify it to reject all lookups for stupid sites like ad.doubleclick.net or any other annoying banner-site? I've been told to use something called junkbuster but I rather not run anything extra on the host, I simply would like to change something in the bind-configuration. Anyone got an idea? This thread has been going on for a few days, and noone seems to have said very much about junkbuster. I use junkbuster at home to block adverts (with great success) for two reasons: 1) I am offended by the overly commercial nature of much of the web, when it is piggybacking off the work and time that others have put in for free. 2) It saves on download time. Basically any url specification (this can include eg ads.*.com, or any directory on a site called ads etc.) can be blocked, and optionally replaced with either a 1x1 transparent gif, or a gif that says junkbuster. It works very well for me. After having to add about 10 or 20 specifications to the blockfile (examples of which can be found on the web anyway) when I first installed it, I now do not see adverts on any of the sites I visit regularly, and a greatly reduced number on other sites as well. Junkbuster can also stop your web browser sending out your email address, and can block cookies in either direction. I recommend that everybody install junkbuster for privacy reasons, apart from anything else. frankie -- ,-. Frankie Fisher| Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that frankie @ | the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk | reasons, will somehow work for the benefit PGP Key available on request. | of us all. -- John Maynard Keynes `-' pgppzyFtXudUK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Automatic software installing (like Win. 2000)
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 02:13:59AM +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote: I would like to know if there's a possibility with apt (or something else) to do the same that windows/Office 2000. It installs automaticly new software from the CD when you want to start a non-installed function. It could be great if under Debian, when we type a command that don't exist, it would automaticly search the command from a small APT database or from the internet if diald|direct connection is here. Are you sure it would be good? Aren't debian's dependencies meant to handle that pretty much? And we could specify in a conffile to download the software or to install directly from the CD. Wouldn't it be cool ? Is it possible to program ? Well you would have to alter each and every shell for a start, to call your code when it can't find the path, and that's just for commands people would type. Then commands called from compiled languages would need a lower level method of handling it maybe. If a such software doesn't exist, do some people want to join to me to program a such thing - As soon as I'm able to do it, I'm learning C in the moment -. ? I wouldn't. I think that unix is not like that; I think the fact that apt-get can install packages I haven't individually requested it to is enough for me; I want control, not nannying. Good idea though. frankie -- ,-. Frankie Fisher| Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that frankie @ | the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk | reasons, will somehow work for the benefit PGP Key available on request. | of us all. -- John Maynard Keynes `-' pgpunMmfc4al6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DVD on Linux?
due to patents problem, it is impossible to have open-source software only DVD player. It is possible however to have: Hmmm. Does anybody know if these patents apply in the UK or Europe? It seems ridiculous that they are pushing to make this technology commonplace, when you have to pay to use it, effectively. Do CD's work on this basis too? frankie OK, in answer to my question: http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8940.html (interview with RMS) about halfway down. I think this means that it would be legal to write a software only decoder in the UK and (some of) Europe. It would, however, be illegal to use it in US, cos of it's shortsighted, biased and unfair patent laws. My other question still stands, does the fact that CD's and CD-players have a compact disc logo on mean that the hardware is patented and that sony gets lots of money for every CD sold? -- ,-. Frankie Fisher | frankie @| Drum'n'Bass tunes and samples. skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ PGP Key available on request. | `-' pgpbMGcZvVKVr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DVD on Linux?
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 05:42:30PM -0700, Brian Kidder wrote:
Frankie Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think this means that it would be legal to write a software only decoder
in the UK and (some of) Europe. It would, however, be illegal to use it in
US, cos of it's shortsighted, biased and unfair patent laws.
Sorry. That was probably a little bit harsh, and thoughtless.
Not being very familiar with the UK's patent system, I'm curious:
What about the US patent system do you find objectionable?
-Brian Kidder
In my opinion, the US laws regarding software patents are wrong.
The patent laws (as I understand them, and I am not an expert) vastly favour
companies.
If an American programmer writes a program, and it happens to infringe some
software patent (which, according to the likes of RMS and slashdot, are handed
out willy-nilly with few checks to ensure that they are valid), then he may be
forced to stop using this program, or sued, or forced to pay royalties on an
algorithm which he (as well as the company) invented. Part of the nature of
programming is coming up with new solutions to (new) problems.
What I particularly dislike (about my perceived view of the American patent
system) is that this programmer may or may not be within the law in his use
of the patented code, but the chances are there is nothing he can do but
comply with whatever the large company wishes.
He cannot afford to fight a (potentially long) battle in the courts, let alone
afford to conduct a `prior art' search; nor can he afford to register any
software patents in his own name (in order that he may have a bargaining point,
and
cross-license / counter sue the company), because the cost is quite high
compared to one man's expendible income.
This is perhaps more a flaw in capitalism, and the western legal system, but
overall it involves freedom and power being taken off the individual and into
then hands of those who already have power (such as companies/etc).
Also I am led to believe (again by the likes of RMS and slashdot) that a lot
of US software patents are handed out without proper searches being carried
out. This means that a lot of bogus patents are currently held, and the
expense to sort this out in the courts will ultimately have to come out of
the pockets of individual programmers, because otherwise they are the ones
who will lose out.
At the moment, the US government/business lobby is pressuring the European
patent rules to be changed to allow software patents USA-style (currently
they only allow patents on software and hardware working together or
something).
To software patents as M$ et al. want them, I say: begone.
frankie
P.S. significant portions of this may be {bigoted,wrong,misinformed,\
ill-judged,communist,so true that you have to go out and do something about
it} for which I accept no responsibility.
P.P.S. Blame RMS+slashdot+linux press for spreading FUD if I am wrong.
--
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Re: DVD on Linux?
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 07:25:24PM -0500, Oleg Krivosheev wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Mark Brown wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 12:30:39AM -0700, Ramiel G. wrote: Does anyone know if there are any DVD players out there for Linux? Due to restrictions on the decoding algorithms and (I presume) the specs for chips used in hardware decoders there aren't any. hmm... i believe that is not true due to patents problem, it is impossible to have open-source software only DVD player. It is possible however to have: Hmmm. Does anybody know if these patents apply in the UK or Europe? It seems ridiculous that they are pushing to make this technology commonplace, when you have to pay to use it, effectively. Do CD's work on this basis too? frankie -- ,-. Frankie Fisher| Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that frankie @ | the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk | reasons, will somehow work for the benefit PGP Key available on request. | of us all. -- John Maynard Keynes `-' pgpI0QW4nKHWP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can I get new, but *not* updated packages from unstable?
On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 08:50:25AM -0400, Evan Van Dyke wrote: Joe Emenaker wrote: For a long time, I've had a policy of updating my servers from stable *and* unstable because I wanted the newly packaged stuff but also, more importantly, because I wanted bug fixes for security holes asap... without having to wait for the next official release of Debian. *snip* Is there anyway to use unstable *only* for the packages that *don't* exist in stable? *snip* Potato is based on glibc2.1. Slink is glibc2.0... so from what I've read on many other posts here, it's a BadIdea(tm) to try and mix these due to the different glibc dependencies. What I would do, had I not already taken the plunge to potato, would be to download the source of apt from potato, compile and install it. Then I could add a deb-src line to /etc/apt/sources.list specifying potato, and from then on, any packages I wanted from unstable I could fetch with apt-get source --compile package, while any packages fetched with apt-get install would continue to download from slink as normal, and I would solve any glibc2.1 problems as well as having the updated packages. frankie -- ,-. Frankie Fisher| Drum'n'Bass tunes and samples. frankie @ skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ PGP Key available on request.| `-' pgpx8NqB2a4XD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Partitioning and symlinks
On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 02:49:51PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: (I already posted this to the SuSE list, so apologies if you see it twice) A query/discussion-point for those of you who know their way around these things -- When you first set up partitions (for /, /usr, /home etc) you won't be sure how the takeup of space on these will turn out in the long run, so you make an intelligent guess. Sometimes the partitions you create will be on the same physical hard drive, sometimes on different HDs. The usual (and recommended) approach is that a particular partition on a particular drive will be home to a particular sub-tree: for instance you may have created /dev/hdb2 to contain /home and then, when the system boots, /dev/hdb2 gets mounted onto /home. However, this aproach has the disadvantage that the association between logical sub-tree and phyical disk-space is, as it were, carved in stone. If it turns out, for instance, that you under-estimated the space required for /home, then you have some retructuring to do. yes, a problematic area for newbies. Although the advantages of speed (when partitions are split across multiple disks)/ and the oft-quoted reason of not taking the whole system down if the mail spool gets very full etc. make this a good way of doing it. -- ,-. Frankie | Drum'n'Bass tunes and samples. frankie at skunkpussy.dhis.org | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' pgpdxxDnyuqAU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unable to click on links in Navigator 4.61
On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 01:48:06PM +0200, Joop Stakenborg wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 09:44:29PM +1000, Dan Everton wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 01:18:50PM +0200, Joop Stakenborg wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 07:26:29PM +1000, Dan Everton wrote: In the past few days (today and yesterday to be precise) I've noticed that I can no longer click on links in Navigator. All mouse related events work it's just those that are on the rendered HTML page that don't work. This includes both left and right mouse clicks on links. I have sometimes encountered a similar problem with netscape: sometimes the cursor goes to the wristwatch or whatever, and doesn't get changed back correctly, so you can't click on any links, menus etc. However non-netscape windows (and even the border around netscape, which is owned by the window manager) work ok, and a click on one of them will reset the mouse cursor to the correct pointer/mode/whatever. yours, wondering if this is relevant, frankie -- ,-. Frankie | Drum'n'Bass tunes and samples. frankie at skunkpussy.dhis.org | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' pgpHxRThZftQm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Clearing a mail spool of duplicate emails???
Hi, Sometimes fetchmail is interrupted when it is fetching mail from my pop account. The result of this is that I have duplicate emails in my mail spool. Is there a package which will scan my mail spool and remove duplicates? [perhaps I could work it into my .fetchmailrc or sthg, or ppp/ip-up.d or somewhere] TIA, frankie -- ,-. Frankie | Drum'n'Bass tunes and samples. frankie at skunkpussy.dhis.org | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' pgpLJeFGSPrhT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Save 70% of your Inernational Faxes Cost
Raymond A. Ingles wrote: On 13 Jul 1999, Martin Bialasinski wrote: Novare host the Debian list server. When a mail is send to the list, it gets new headers. The listmasters have access to the original mail, and they will do something against this, as debian-user is not the only list receiving this spam. Hmm. Is there anyone actually doing anything about the spam on the Debian lists? Email inquiries I've sent have not been answered... Apparently not - in the 9 months since I subscribed to debian-user the spam on the list has increased from ~ none to 1 every week or two or three. I do not know whether this reflects a general increase in spam on the internet, or greater publicity of this list, or what, but what I do know is that spam should be seriously followed up, especially as the American Senate seems to be pro-spam (according to slashdot anyway) and what goes in America sooner or later goes in UK and Europe... frankie -- ,-. Frankie | Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. frankie at skunkpussy.dhis.org | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-'
Re: New to the group: my 3 boxes....
Revenant wrote: I'm rather fond of WindowMaker. This was included in my Debian 2.1. A perfectly useable version of WindowMaker [0.20] was included with 2.0. frankie You should be able to select a new Window Manager from the standard drop-down menus in X to give it a try... Tony T. wrote: Hi all, I was directed here by a very helpful person on the comp.os.linux.setup group, (thanks Tom!) looks like just what I need. I have been puttering with Linux for a few years, started with Slackware, tried Redhat 4x and 5x, and lately I got my hands on Debian 2.0, Caldera 2.2, Linux Pro and SuSe. Any questions I have here will (obviouslty) refer to the Debian distribution. I have 3 pcs I am working on at once, here are the stats: 486, 16 meg ram, 300 meg hd (FAT16) 200 meg hd (ext2) no cdrom - Debian 2.0, some generic ISA video P100, 24 meg ram, 1.2 gig hd (ext2) 4X Mitsumi - Calera 2.2, STB Powergraph 64v+ running KDE (blech) Celron 300a @ 450, 64 megs ram, 4.2 gig 800 meg hd., 36X IDE cd. Riva 16meg TNT - nothing yet. I am thinking about putting Debian 2.0 on the Celeron, and when I have PPP running connect to the ftp site and upgrade it to the latest (2.2?) My question is, what sort of X11 window managers are included with 2.0? I know COL comes with KDE (I am not terribly impressed with it), and I have not yet gotten to the point where I can switch window managers on a whim like changing Themes in 95 (although it IS a goal of mine!) I used Afterstep on one of the RH boxes and I liekd it, mostley because it didnt look too much like 95; my opinion is, it aint 95, why would I want it to LOOK like it? :-) Anyway, opinions welcome! Tony -- System halted: hit any user to continue. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -- Revenant [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The whole principle is wrong; it's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak. - author Robert A. Heinlein on censorship. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Getting Mpeg Trackname?
Andrew Holmes wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 10:52:50AM -0700, Greg Baker wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Andrew Holmes wrote: I've looked through the man pages for splay and mpg123 but I can't find an option to output the trackname information from an mp3 file. Have a look at the 'mp3info' package (which gives you the command 'mp3info'). That should do everything you need. It can also set the title, artist, album, etc. for an mp3. Greg --- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. --RFC-1925 Thanks Greg, mp3info seems to be just what I need, now all I need is a way for the computer to automatically recognise when someone has typed the artist wrong in the header info :-) Is it Bryan Adams or Brian Adams? :-) Hopefully it would never be either :-P frankie Thanks again! -- Best Wishes, Andy Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. -- Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-'
Re: How to pronouce Debian?
Brian Servis wrote: *- On 23 Jun, tboy wrote about How to pronouce Debian? Hi all, I'm not a native english speaker so i don't know how to pronouce Debian --- it seems somewhat strange to me. When i introduce Debian to my friends i have to spell it out letter by letter. Any help from native english speakers? At the bottom of http://www.debian.org/intro/about you can find the statement: -- Since many people have asked, Debian is pronounced 'deb ee n'. It comes from the names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra. -- Other words that start the same are: debitdeb-it debonair deb-onair debutant deb-utant Other words that sound the same on the end, not the best but all I could think of, european europ-ean mediterranean mediterran-ean Further to this I understand the stress to be on the first syllable - DEBian. May well be wrong though :-), frankie Hope this helps, -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Large .deb packages..
John Foster wrote: Maybe having another section of debian would be better: eg main,contrib,non-free,non-US,marginal. [I'm sure someone could come up with a better name than marginal :-)] Marginal would contain really large packages, or packages that very few people might want to use. If their popularity took off then they would be moved to main. That way the debian CDs contain main, (and anything distributable from contrib and non-free). marginal would have to be got over the internet like non-US. This would perhaps be more in line with the current debian system, I don't know. ___ I would like to see a category added to the Debian web site for things like this that would be available for fringe usage or special projects developers to place unique/specilaized debianized binaries and source files for centralized availability. There are LOTs of .deb binaries out there for applications in specialized fields (math, radio astronomy, physics, biology, graphic's development, etc.) These are mostly useful to students and folks doing some type of research, however they would be made available to the general public via this central location. I do not think they should be put on any CD image for distribution except as an additional CD for special projects. I do feel that there should be both stable and unstable areas for this category, and that these files should meet all standard debian distro criteria before being posted. This area could also include ports to Debian from other systems such as Slackware, Red Hat etc. that are not widely available. Yep, I agree with you totally actually - as far as I see it, one of the major advantages of the .deb format is that all of the .deb's are made by specific debian maintainers who (hopefully) are well acquainted with debian, and know what they are doing. Another well known package format has (from what I understand, I could be completely wrong, and Im not trying to start a long post about merits of packaging systems etc) far less rigorous standards, and there are packages all over the place made by all and sundry. Good nad bad I suppose. (maybe thats the advantage for debian being no 2 distro...) With your ideas, this is maintained, so not only is debian more stable (???) its packages are better as well (???). frankie -- John Foster AdVance-Computing Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: I need some info/piece of mind before installing linux
Will Lowe wrote: floppy. The only thing i can think of is keeping them on the second drive while the first drive makes the conversion to linux, then im hoping that in linux i can still access the non-linux second drive, Sure. Linux can read disk drives that have been formatted under Windows, no problem. also, is there any way to still use Win95 apps in linux, i like to make techno music on my computer and would like to carry over my production music(and video games for that matter) to linux, is this possible?? The answer is to put linux on one hard drive and windows on the other. What I am about to say probably isn't appropriate to a newbie, but depending on your competence it may be useful, or you may remember this a few months down the line... In my experience this seems to speed up my computer by about 40 to 50% when I am running lots of apps at once. techie bit if you don't understand the meaing of the above, you probably shouldn't read this next paragraph :-P If you split linux over the two harddrives, then the hard disk access will be faster, because you are reading from two at once. One way to achieve this is to split your swap partition over two harddrives, and set them with equal priority. /techie bit about your techno music, with what have you written it? Is it with a 'standard' format like .xm or similar? Because there are players for various modules formats, and there are (at least) four trackers available for linux. Unfortunately, I have failed to get any of them to compile - read another post of mine on this list - and as far as they know they are not packaged for debian. If/when I can get them to compile, then I fully intend to package them up and make them available. Just need to read the debian-devel docs again... frankie Linux (well, actually Lilo, the program that starts up linux) can ask you whether you'd like to run Linux or Windows each time you boot, and you can pick one. Check out the LinuxWin95 HOWTO at http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Linux+Win95.html Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | And if you hold on tight to what you think is your thing | |you may find you're missing all the rest ...| |- Dave Matthews, Best of What's Around | -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[OFF-TOPIC] spammers on this list
Has anybody ever extracted the $1999 or whatever from anybody who has spammed this list? frankie -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: A few questions from a newbie.
John Gay wrote: Thanks for the info, but I think you over looked a few items. The reason I want to upgrade to potato is, I installed x11amp, which required newer libs than slink uses. This has broken apt. I've seen this problem mentioned before and the recommended fix was to upgrade to potato. Also, my did you get x11amp from potato? If so it probably requires glibc2.1 libraries, only available in potato. If there is not an x11amp package in slink, then a solution would be to download the (debianised) source and compile it. Almost all of the debian sources (in my experience) seem to compile straight away, with no problems. This way the package would only require whatever version of the libraries you have in your system (glibc 2.0 in slink, unless you have inadvertently upgraded your libraries to glibc2.1 when you got x11amp). video card requires the mach64 server for X11R6 3.3.3.1 which is part of potato, slink uses 3.3.2.3 My system is currently working with X3.3.2.3 with the mach64 server for 3.3.3.1, I'm not sure if this is such a good idea, but it works for I understand this to be a perfectly acceptable configuration. I have done a similar thing myself for a while (until 2.1 came out, when I stopped being a hamm/potato system and moved to slink, although I have since gone back to using some potato packages] If you have to use the potato mach64 packages, they probably require glibc2.1, so you could recompile them as well. (big download though ;-) Apparently netscape has some problems with glibc2.1, although I am having no more crashes than I did with glibc2.0. me for the moment. Due to personal problems, I have to fly to the States this weekend. I'll be gone for 3 weeks. I think I'll just wait till I get back, then pack up my system and cart it down to the local ILUG and have some experts help whats the I stand for? me set the rest of it up. So, hopefully, by next month I'll have my system up and running and on the net. I'll then be able to work on other probs a lot easier, as I'll then have E-Mail at home! Thanks again for all the assistance. Cheers, John Gay -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null frankie -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Large .deb packages..
Richard Dansereau wrote: Hello all! I seem to remember a while back there was a discussion about whether or not to include some rather large packages (i.e. ones containing data, such as astronomical data) in the Debian releases. I think the main consensus was not to include these types of large packages. I was wondering if the Packages file includes or could include a field that would indicate an alternate ftp/http site that these type of packages could be placed into. Then, if someone wishes to maintain a large Debian package that we don't want to put on the general CD distribution that they can still be easily installed and maintained through the standard Debian package installation program. Of course, this raises some other issues as far as security, etc. What do people think about this? Maybe having another section of debian would be better: eg main,contrib,non-free,non-US,marginal. [I'm sure someone could come up with a better name than marginal :-)] Marginal would contain really large packages, or packages that very few people might want to use. If their popularity took off then they would be moved to main. That way the debian CDs contain main, (and anything distributable from contrib and non-free). marginal would have to be got over the internet like non-US. This would perhaps be more in line with the current debian system, I don't know. Frankie Richard.. - Richard DansereauICQ: 1604133 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page: http://pobox.com/~rdanse Electrical and Computer Engineering - The University of Manitoba - Canada - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: DESEA DORMIR BIEN?
Um, anyone know what this is about? I get the idea that sleeping at night has little or nothing to do with debian. frankie P.S. what is an ANUNCIOS GRATIS? sounds disturbingly like spam to me... P.P.S. if so is someone going to mail him (in argentinian? spanish?) and explain debian user's policy on advertising? Humberto Pedraza Alvarez wrote: Esto puede ser de interes PARA SU SALUD!!! NO ES CADENA, NI LISTA DE ANUNCIOS GRATIS Con esto no va a ganar dinero, VA A VIVIR MEJOR. Lo invito a que lea estas preguntas y marque con una X en aquellas frases con las cuales se identifica y nos las envia con un Replay. Dentro de las 48 hs. de recibido su E-mail le enviaremos totalmente gratis el METODO PARA DORMIR BIEN, con el cual comenzara a solucionar los problemas que le estan molestando 1. ¿Los problemas no lo dejan dormir de noche? 2. ¿Ve pasar las horas sin poder conciliar el suenio? 3. ¿Escucha el tic-tac del reloj a lo largo de toda la noche? 4. ¿Da vueltas y vueltas en la cama antes de dormir? 5. ¿Se levanta a la maniana con su cuerpo cansado? 6. ¿Se despierta y todo lo que escucha le molesta? 7. ¿Cuándo comienza el día lo ve todo negro y tenebroso? 8. ¿Se despierta durante la noche y no consigue conciliar el suenio nuevamente? 9. ¿Escucha los problemas ajenos y los pretende solucionar cuando se va a dormir? 10. ¿Siente como si le hubieran dado una paliza durante la noche? 11. ¿Se despierta numerosas veces durante la noche? 12. ¿Durante el día siente que cuando llegue la noche no podra dormir? NOMBRE Y APELLIDO E-MAIL CIUDAD PAIS Usando este simple y practico: METODO PARA DORMIR BIEN, Ud. dormira en forma natural, tranquila y continuada, durante todas las horas que desee, se levantara todos los dias con su mente despejada y su cuerpo descansado. Humberto M. Pedraza Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel-Fax (054-11) 4981-7901 / (054-11) 4958-2520 Bartolome Mitre 3743 - 1º - A 1201 - Capital Federal - Argentina -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
potato wmaker (0.53.0-2)
Hi, I know that this version of wmaker is in unstable, but can anybody else use it? I cannot change the window focus, and the mouse does nothing outside of the front window. I have tried running it with and without gnome, and with and without the wmaker-gnome package. All to no avail :-( I would quite like to run wmaker-gnome, cos I have recently returned to gnome (after an abortive play around the hamm era) and it looks really good. frankie -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
How can I tell xterm -e finger not to close when finger does?
Cos I'm trying to set up a command with gw, you see. cheers in advance, frankie. P.S. I have tried using sh to execute the command, but sh closes afterwards as well. P.P.S. Please make it really complicated so I don't look stupid for missing something obvious :-) -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.
thomas lakofski wrote: Just to throw in some more controversy :-) I have always ran netscape glibc 2 versions. (with communicator 3.something, 4.5, .51 and .6) except maybe the communicator 3.something. I have never had a bus error, and I use netscape at least every day. BTW I am using glibc2.1 (was using potato and hamm before, though), SVGA X-server, and an S3 Virge card. I used to use a 1MB Cirrus card. (I have used both ISA and PCI versions) without trouble. frankie :-P On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Craig McPherson wrote: Are any of the earier versions of Netscape more stable than 4.6? I'm willing to use whatever is stable. I haven't yet tried earlier Netscapes. same thing happens to me with 4.51 and 4.08, both linked with glibc2. i think it's a glibc2.1 issue. anyone have libc5 debian packages for 4.08/51/6? It's not glibc2. Netscape 4.6 (Potato) runs fine, at least if you have a Cirrus CL-GD5446 (PCI), kernel 2.2.9 and plenty of RAM. Look for something else. And I don't think it's the window manager. At least, Netscape's okay on Enlightenment. Have you tried the SVGA X server (acceleration off)? Does XF86Setup find any parameters specific to your card? Have you upgraded XFree86 to glibc2? I don't think it's an XFree86 issue -- same things occur when running netscape over VNC. Blackbox is my window manager. All problems vanish when using libc5 version of communicator 4.08. Specific (repeatable) problems were: bus error when closing one window; bus error when using sites protected with basic auth; bus error when selecting menu item in large (50+ item) pop-up menus. None of these I've seen with the libc5 version. I'm running potato current as of a few days ago on a Libretto 100CT, SVGA server using Neomagic chipset, kernel 2.2.10, 64MB RAM. Everything's glibc2.1 that can be. -thomas .. Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! EF D8 33 68 B3 E3 E9 D2 C1 3E 51 22 8A AA 7B 98 umbra (!) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: WindowMaker and GNOME
Kristopher Johnson wrote: I've installed GNOME and the wmaker-gnome package (using apt and a mirror of ftp.gnome.org). I can switch between IceWM and Enlightenment without any problem, but if I try to switch to WindowMaker using the GNOME Control Panel, it times out while trying to start. I'm running GNOME by using an .xsession with exec gnome-session in it. Any ideas about what's going wrong or what I can do to diagnose the problem? - Kris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Using gdm, I can switch to IceWM, Enlightenment and WindowMaker . Its just that WindowMaker doesn't work (see my other message). No idea whats going wrong or what you can do though. :-P frankie. -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Anyone had any success compiling Voodoo Tracker, Funk Tracker Gold, soundtracker, xsoundtrack?
Stephen Pitts wrote:
On Fri, Jun 18, 1999 at 02:16:35AM +0100, Frankie wrote:
cos I haven't. I have got debian's latest gtk libraries etc, but each of
these trackers refusers to compile for some reason or another. I just
want to know if anyone has got any of these to work with debian (or for
that matter any other linux)...
Be more specific. What error messages? Do you have the libgtk1.2-dev
stuff installed as well?
yes.
As far as I know I am using the latest version of the programs... (well when I
tried them all originally a month ago)
In my original post I was loath to ask for specific compiling or package
advice, as this being a list more to do with debian than a generic linux
question. But anyway, here are the errrors...
Any suggestions?
1.
-
$ cd soundtracker-0.1.4
$ ./configure
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for sed... /bin/sed
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for pthread.h... yes
checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... yes
checking for gtk-config... /usr/bin/gtk-config
checking for GTK - version = 1.2.0... yes
checking for gnome-config... /usr/bin/gnome-config
checking for Gnome compile flags... ok
checking for audiofile-config... /usr/bin/audiofile-config
checking for AUDIOFILE - version = 0.1.5... no
*** Could not run AUDIOFILE test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means AUDIOFILE was incorrectly
installed
*** or that you have moved AUDIOFILE since it was installed. In the latter
case, you
*** may want to edit the audiofile-config script: /usr/bin/audiofile-config
configure: error: Cannot find AUDIOFILE: Is audiofile-config in path?
$ locate audiofile-config
/usr/bin/audiofile-config
/usr/man/man1/audiofile-config.1.gz
$ ls -l /usr/bin/audiofile*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1029 Mar 12 23:30 /usr/bin/audiofile-config
[installed are libaudiofile0 and libaudiofile-dev packages from slink - neither
the slink nor the potato packages work.]
--
2.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/frankie/src/VoodooTracker-0.2.0/app/mixers'
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/libgnome/gnome-dl.h', needed
by `gui.o'. Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/frankie/src/VoodooTracker-0.2.0/app'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/frankie/src/VoodooTracker-0.2.0'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
I can probably fix this one...or wait for a new version.
--
3.
$ make
make all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/frankie/src/kt-0.4.4'
Making all in src
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/frankie/src/kt-0.4.4/src'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include
-g -c ktspinbutton.c
ktspinbutton.c: In function `kt_spin_button_insert_text':
ktspinbutton.c:1177: warning: passing arg 1 of `strchr' from incompatible
pointer type
ktspinbutton.c:1178: warning: passing arg 1 of `strchr' from incompatible
pointer type
ktspinbutton.c:1183: warning: passing arg 1 of `strchr' from incompatible
pointer type
ktspinbutton.c:1183: invalid operands to binary -
make[2]: *** [ktspinbutton.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/frankie/src/kt-0.4.4/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/frankie/src/kt-0.4.4'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
urm
-
4.
$ cd Xsoundtrack-0.0.6
$ make
choose something to do :
make with-asm
build the program with a mixer routine in assembler (requires nasm)
make with-asm-precompiled
build with the mix_asm.o given in the distribution
(you don't have nasm but you want the assembler mixer)
make without-asm
if you want the C version of the mixer
$ make without-asm
(cd interface; make without-asm)
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/frankie/src/Xsoundtrack-0.0.6/interface'
(cd ../player; make -f Makefile.noasm)
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/frankie/src/Xsoundtrack-0.0.6/player'
make[2]: `player.a' is up to date.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/frankie/src/Xsoundtrack-0.0.6/player'
gcc -o xsoundtrack main.o screen.o interface.o sub_interface.o
keyboard_definition.o file_selector.o instrument.o
Anyone had any success compiling Voodoo Tracker, Funk Tracker Gold, soundtracker, xsoundtrack?
cos I haven't. I have got debian's latest gtk libraries etc, but each of these trackers refusers to compile for some reason or another. I just want to know if anyone has got any of these to work with debian (or for that matter any other linux)... frankie PS has anyone got round to packaging up an mp3 encoder? cos last time I looked there wasn't one, and cdgrab needs one, and obviously it would be nice to have a virtual package of mp3-encoder so you can choose your favourite on sound/speed. http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Hoping for some help with this kernel error
Incidentally, on the subject of kernel 2.2.10 and make-kpkg, has anyone had a compile problem just after patching to 2.2.10? Normally when I install a patch, I use a modified version of the patch-kernel script, and then I run make-kpkg kernel_image. However, when I upgraded from 2.2.9 to 2.2.10, the compile stopped near the end with an error which I can't remember, and to get it to compile I discovered I had to make-kpkg clean, before runnning make-kpkg kernel-image. Is this just some freak error on my system? or has the makefile failed to notice that its a later version of the kernel? or does make-kpkg not handle running make clean etc if necessary? frankie Stephen Pitts wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 07:13:08PM -0600, Craig McPherson wrote: Well, my little foray into kernel compiling didn't meet with much success... any ideas on this? kmod failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-464c, errno=8 request_module[binfmt-464c]: fork failed, errno 11 repeat endlessly -- Craig McPherson The University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR Linux Registered User #128364 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10262746 This man walks into a bar... and it hurts! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Exact thing happened to me. FWIW, I just booted into 2.2.10 and had some scary problems where bash wouldn't run any programs and my mail file had a whole lot of garbage in it. Back to 2.2.6 for me. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Kernel 2.2.9 and soundblaster module
Brad wrote: On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Ingo Hohmann wrote: Hi, is there something about soundblaster support that I should have known by now? Seems that my irq, ... settings get lost when I compile soundblaster support as a module. (Sound works when compiled in, but I get device is busy error, when I use modules and try to insmod sb.o) Is there a possibilty to set irq, ... when using modules? Or is it another problem? When you insert the sb module, you have to specify the io, irq, etc on the command line, something like this: insmod sb io=0x220 irq=9 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x300 type=6 Same thing when you insmod the adlib_card for midi support: insmod adlib_card io=0x388 On my system, i put a script in /etc/init.d to automatically insert the proper sound modules on boot (after isapnp runs and configures the card) Brad, man modconf - does that for you. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Need help with Sound Modules
Andrew C. Gronosky wrote: Hi, My new PC has a Creative AWE64 card and I've been pulling my hair out trying to configure it. :) I am running the 2.2.1 kernel with all the correct modules according to the kernel documentation. The card is PnP and I believe I have it configured properly with isapnp. /lib/modules/2.2.1/misc/soundcore.o: invalid parameter io soundlow: No such file or directory Installation failed. Now I've looked around a bit and my /etc/conf.modules looks very odd. I dont know what your problem is with the modules(1), but can't you look at the time/date stamp? 1. OK I have just had a look through your files. isapnp.conf looks OK, but [and I could well be wrong] conf.modules seems to have a few rogue options. options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 options sound io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 options uart401 io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 options soundcore io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 options sb sb io=0x220 irq=7 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 options sound io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 options uart401 io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 options sound io=220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=330 options sound io=0x220 options sound io=0220 options sound io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io-0x330 options soundcore io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 options sound options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 options soundlow io=0x220 Are you using modconf to install the modules? If so, then hopefully what I have pasted in should be the contents of /etc/modutils/modconf. this is mine, for comparison: options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=0 dma16=5 I have an SB16 Value PNP (cos I'm poor) and I think that our options for the sb module should be similar. If you use modconf, then move the old /etc/modutils/modconf file elsewhere [to a different directory, dont just rename it modconf.old or sthg cos update-modules puts the contents of all the files into /etc/conf.modules] and either run modconf again, or put into your /etc/modutils/modconf options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 If you are using modconf, then also consider filing a bug against it. If OTOH you do not use modconf, then find out where those dodgy options are coming from [a file in /etc/modutils almost certainly] and put in that file what I told you above to put in /etc/modutils/modconf frankie It seems to have redundant entries (see attached). Can anyone tell me how conf.modules went bad and how I could fix it? Running update-modules does not help. I've also attached my isapnp.conf file for completeness. Thanks, -Andrew Gronosky -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: SV: Webmasters Wanted!!! We'll pay you...
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Re: DNS problem
Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: Hi all, I have a little problem with my provider DNS: mine is much faster, but I need to access the provider's if I want to have the news groups and mail sending allowed, because my identification is made by these DNS (I'm on a cable network). So how could I make my server not to answer to the request of my station, ONLY for the 5-6 domain names that causes me troubles?? I may misunderstand your needs, but surely, if you don't run bind at all, and instead put the 5 or 6 troublesome addresses into /etc/hosts that will have the desired effect? frankie Thanks in advance, JY -- Jean-Yves Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Membre fondateur du CGE Quand la justice n'est pas juste, l'injustice est exacte. P. DAC Boycott Intel, watch: http://www.bigbrotherinside.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: BE MORE SIMPLE!!!!
E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: Debian installation manual is not at all the worst one. It is quite good actually. But it definetely isn't easy to find on the website instructions how to get started... This is getting on my nerves... * go to www.debian.org * note the section `Getting Started', which is the second below `What is Debian' * actually _read_ this section (all of both sentences), and discover you need to click on the link Release information in this section. * click * Note the header `New Installations', and the links Install Manual for SPARC Install Manual for Intel x86 Install Manual for Alpha Install Manual for Motorola 680x0 below it. * click on, say `Install Manual for Intel x86' (if that is what you want) * you now find yourself reading the installation manual All this involves *two* clicks from the main debian pages, and reading maybe 30 lines of text. If this `definitely not easy' for someone, I figure this person needs to acquire some more basic computer skills before attempting to install anything at all on their computer. Yes very easy, I agree. Um does joe stupid know what an intel x86? Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Eindhoven Univ. of Technology Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (SKA) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: I am not impressed with Debian so far.
Kelly Corbin wrote: But if you can't wait the week or two for the CD's... Will Lowe wrote: I install Debian with a 14.4 modem. Trust me, it only takes patience. Or CDs. They're cheap. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I got my 2.0 and 2.1 CDs from linux emporium [UK company]. Both times they came in 2 days. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: 16-bit or 24-bit Color Palette ?
try /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86Setup it runs X in some poor VGA mode, and the interface is LOADS more intuitive than xf86config. for the monitor refresh hsync etc, you are given a choice of common types of monitors, if you do not know the exact settings. [which were in the maual of both monitors I have owned] frankie Andrew J Fortune wrote: I have just installed Slink on my machine, and have ... almost got it working the way that i want it to. The only thing that won't work is that it is coming up in 256 colors, and I want it to use the 16-bit color palette or greater (with 1024 x 768). I have been running xf86config, and the problem for me is that I have been taking uneducated pot-shots in the dark, and I am wondering if there is a better way of approaching this problem. I have tried all sorts of (seemingly appropriate) combinations of monitor, video card and mode from within xf86config, but all to no avail. The areas that I am foggy on are horizontal and vertical sync, refresh rates and the modes (e.g. the menu which allows you to nominate different modes for 8-bit, 16-bit, etc etc), and these were the areas that I was guessing on. I know that I can achieve this, because this is how my Windows 95 desktop is set up. Also, previously I had Debian v2.0 and RedHat v5.2 installed and I had no problems therethe only thing was that I don't remember what I did It could be that the solution lies outside of xfconfig altogether ?? In any event, I would be grateful of any help here (I am a newbie in the world of Linux). (If it helps, I have a 15 monitor, Super VGA 1024x768, with a S3 Trio 32/64 PCI video card. ) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Random partitioning questions
OK... my tuppence, after the discussion has finished :-) 1) you have two hard disks, why not split the partitions equally across them both? a) when you get an fsck at bootup it runs both hardisks at the same time, sop is quicker. b) split the swap across two partitions on two hard disks, with equal priorities - this doubles the data transfer rate, just what you need when you're thrashing. This is mentioned in some HOWTO I'm sure... c) generally better :-) 2) apparently logical partitions can be bad, becuase they store the details (location, size, etc) of the partition in the previous logical partition. IE, if the info for your 2nd logical partition gets corrupted, it is not possible to read your third,fourth,fifth,sixth etc. with primary paritions OTOH each partitions info is stored in a specific location towards the beginning of the disk. So, my point is to use 3 primary partitions and the rest logical. Here is some info that might give you an idea: one user; used for web/internet with netscape/etc, some programming, thats about it...waiting to get Word Perfect (UK mostly charges per minute for internet access) I use windows for games and writing music, cos I haven't got any trackers to compile under linux (mostly due to the slink/potato combination I am using I think :-), and cooledit, cubase vst etc etc don't run under linux/wine afaik. IDEA: someone package up a tracker for debian... anyway, bash-2.01$ df Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/hda4 173725 25061 139693 15% / /dev/hda6 643958 172300 438395 28% /var /dev/hdb51484386 1072744 334932 76% /usr /dev/hda5 247870 113687 121382 48% /usr/local /dev/hdb6 396500 270689 105329 72% /home /dev/hdb7 295474 162418 117796 58% /home/ftp /dev/hda2 909404 783180 126224 86% /dos/c /dev/hdb12525252 2045440 479812 81% /dos/d /dev/hdb91018088 787776 230312 77% /dos/e [Yes, I know that I'm not following my own logical partition advice, I just don't have enough floppies to sort it out...] /etc/fstab attached... hopefully that might help you make a judgement, frankie. Brad wrote: i hope to get a lot of opinions! Right now, i have my entire Linux on one 4G HD (minus some data files and things for Wine to play with on a FAT32 partion on a second drive). One partition for swap, one for everything else. From what i've heard, not a very good arangement if anything goes wrong. So, i'm thinking of backing up everything and making some more partitions. 1. If i understand things correctly, /, /boot, /lib, /bin, /sbin, /dev, parts of /etc, and maybe /root should be on one partition below the 1024th cyl for hysterical reasons, which do apply in my case. Do i understand correctly? 2. If i were partitioning a new HD, what would be a good size for the partition containing just those directories, that wouldn't waste too much space. Right now on my system, du -c reports 18M for that list, so i'm thinking 50M would allow plenty of room for expansion? 3. How about sizes for other partitions? /home i'm thinking 750M (personal workstation, 6 users that are just different mailing addresses for me), 1G for /var (with /tmp - /var/tmp, is that a bad idea?), 2.1G for /usr. 4. hda1 should be /, but how about the rest? home var swap usr as 2 3 4 5? 5. What am i missing, that i think i fit everything (including 64M of swap) onto a 4G HD? ;) Just trying to learn here. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/hda4 / ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda3 noneswapsw,pri=0 0 0 /dev/hdb8 noneswapsw,pri=0 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults 0 0 #support for unix98 ptys none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /varext2defaults 0 2 /dev/hdb5 /usrext2defaults 0 2 /dev/hda5 /usr/local ext2defaults 0 2 /dev/hdb6 /home ext2defaults 0 2 /dev/hdb7 /home/ftp ext2defaults 0
[Fwd: Nvi saved the file stmp]
On Thu May 27 19:50:29 1999, the user root was editing a file named /etc/stmp on the machine SkunkPussy, when it was saved for recovery. You can recover most, if not all, of the changes to this file using the -r option to vi: vi -r /etc/stmp Any idea why I get this email repeatedly?(some are only 2 minutes apart) If I recover the file, it is 'sudoers'. Needless to say, I have not been editing this file. Any ideas what might be causing this? I regularly use sudo, and my system is part slink, part potato. cheers, frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Unwanted Graphical Login and other woes...
Brian Servis wrote: *- On 9 Jun, Andrew J Fortune wrote about Unwanted Graphical Login and other woes... I don't know what I have done, but Linux (using slink) is now booting up to a graphical login. This is not what I want at the moment, and I was wondering if anyone knew what the problem might be ? this is not normally a problem, but I am trying to resolve other problems associated with startx and file resolutionand this is not allowing me to test some things. Sounds like xdm is installed and thus starting up as the system boots. Probably the easist thing to do is remove the xdm package. Use dselect, apt or dpkg. As root issue the command: dpkg --remove xdm If you don't wan't remove it but just disable it, as root issue the command: update-rc.d -f xdm remove This will remove the xdm links in /etc/rc[2-5].d that point to the /etc/init.d/xdm script. Then at a later date when you want xdm to start back up, issue: update-rc.d xdm defaults 99 01 I have heard that in order to have a text console at login, you have to set the initdefault action to 3 in the file /etc/inittab. However, it is already set to 3, but Linux still is presenting me with the graphical login ! I think this pertains to RedHat. Debian by default does not have a non-X run-level. I think a proposal has been submitted to have this changed though. If you want to you can just manually delete the S99xdm symlink from /etc/rc2.d and have inittab us run-level 2 as the default. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Or it could be login.app/wdm/kdm - dpkg --remove login.app wdm kdm frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
PPP server wont work - I have R all TFMs + the FAQs
2 debian boxes, 2.2.9, almost identical config. Box A is on a 2 PC LAN, Box B is a standalone PC. Box A can dial in with PPP to Box B OK, however when Box B dials in to Box A, no connection or anything is made - cannot ping etc. Box A uses ip masquerdading. Whether it is turned on or off Box B cannot dial into Box A. I have attached the options and options.ttySx files as well. I would be really grateful if someone might be able to tell me the problem. [Box A is 10.0.0.1 on ethernet i/f, 10.0.0.3 on ttyS3 (well thats the idea), Box B is 10.1.0.4 on ttyS0) I have read the manual, FAQ, HOWTO etc. I am not having any success. This is a very mysterious problem, and has bothered me for about a week. Please can someone tell me how stupid I am please :-) cheers, Frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 # /etc/ppp/options # # $Id: options,v 1.4 1996/05/01 18:57:04 alvar Exp $ # # Originally created by Jim Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Modified for Debian by alvar Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Modified for PPP Server setup by Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Use the command egrep -v '#|^ *$' /etc/ppp/options to quickly see what # options are active in this file. # Specify which DNS Servers the incoming Win95 or WinNT Connection should use # Two Servers can be remotely configured # ms-dns 192.168.1.1 # ms-dns 192.168.1.2 # Specify which WINS Servers the incoming connection Win95 or WinNT should use # ms-wins 192.168.1.50 # ms-wins 192.168.1.51 # Run the executable or shell command specified after pppd has # terminated the link. This script could, for example, issue commands # to the modem to cause it to hang up if hardware modem control signals # were not available. #disconnect chat -- \d+++\d\c OK ath0 OK # async character map -- 32-bit hex; each bit is a character # that needs to be escaped for pppd to receive it. 0x0001 # represents '\x01', and 0x8000 represents '\x1f'. asyncmap 0 # Require the peer to authenticate itself before allowing network # packets to be sent or received. # Please do not disable this setting. It is expected to be standard in # future releases of pppd. Use the call option (see manpage) to disable # authentication for specific peers. auth # Use hardware flow control (i.e. RTS/CTS) to control the flow of data # on the serial port. crtscts # Use software flow control (i.e. XON/XOFF) to control the flow of data # on the serial port. #xonxoff # Specifies that certain characters should be escaped on transmission # (regardless of whether the peer requests them to be escaped with its # async control character map). The characters to be escaped are # specified as a list of hex numbers separated by commas. Note that # almost any character can be specified for the escape option, unlike # the asyncmap option which only allows control characters to be # specified. The characters which may not be escaped are those with hex # values 0x20 - 0x3f or 0x5e. #escape 11,13,ff # Don't use the modem control lines. #local # Specifies that pppd should use a UUCP-style lock on the serial device # to ensure exclusive access to the device. lock # Use the modem control lines. On Ultrix, this option implies hardware # flow control, as for the crtscts option. (This option is not fully # implemented.) modem # Set the MRU [Maximum Receive Unit] value to n for negotiation. pppd # will ask the peer to send packets of no more than n bytes. The # minimum MRU value is 128. The default MRU value is 1500. A value of # 296 is recommended for slow links (40 bytes for TCP/IP header + 256 # bytes of data). #mru 542 # Set the interface netmask to n, a 32 bit netmask in decimal dot # notation (e.g. 255.255.255.0). #netmask 255.255.255.0 # Disables the default behaviour when no local IP address is specified, # which is to determine (if possible) the local IP address from the # hostname. With this option, the peer will have to supply the local IP # address during IPCP negotiation (unless it specified explicitly on the # command line or in an options file). #noipdefault # Enables the passive option in the LCP. With this option, pppd will # attempt to initiate a connection; if no reply is received from the # peer, pppd will then just wait passively for a valid LCP packet from # the peer (instead of exiting, as it does without this option). passive # With this option, pppd will not transmit LCP packets to initiate a # connection until a valid LCP packet is received from the peer (as for # the passive option with old versions of pppd). #silent # Don't request or allow negotiation of any options for LCP and IPCP # (use default values). #-all # Disable Address/Control compression negotiation (use default, i.e. # address/control field disabled). #-ac # Disable asyncmap negotiation (use the default asyncmap, i.e
select tty an incoming connection comes to depending on their address?
Is it possible to set up ttysnoop on an incoming telnet connection? I thought the best way would be to redirect telnet con from a certain ip range to a certain ttyp device, and snoop that,? Any better ideas? Frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761 begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:Trainee Linux Guru x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: are the 2.2.x kernels for SMP systems only?
Pollywog wrote: On 20-May-99 Brian Servis wrote: No. They have support for SMP systems. Read the documentation. I think you win the award for the most frequent poster! Sorry, I will refrain from asking so many questions. I did read the You don't really need to do that. If people(like me) want to respond they will. You do have some good questions though. That is why I am a proponent of the debian-newbie list :) Newbies helping newbies without seeming to be asking too many questions. No, thats a well bad idea - there are enough dodgy answers to questions on this list, without people who know NOTHING about debian trying to help other people. frankiebegin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-25056 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: MP3 encoder
M.C. Vernon wrote: please Cc to Me Hi all, Things like cdgrip say and your favourite mp3 encoder, or default to lamer - but I can find to evidence of a mp3 encoder in the archive. Can anyone help me out? Thanks theres always l3enc... cant remember where I got it from, but the archive name is dist10.tar.gz, and you want to apply the patch dist10patch-2.1f.gz. You should be able to find it with ftpsearch - thats how I found it. It compiled first time no probs. I suppose someone ought to package up an mp3 encoder at some point... -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-25056 fn:Frankie end:vcard
compiling X from the debian sources doesn't work.
/dix' make[5]: *** [dix] Error 2 Then these errors are repeated again (with one lower make[x]), and then: dpkg-deb: building package `twm' in `../twm_3.3.2.3a-11_i386.deb'. debian/create-arch-xbase-clients cp: debian/xtree/usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg: No such file or directory make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1 * Build finished at 13:44 on 1999-05-03 Build FAILED Any idea what is going wrong and what I can do about it? I am pretty sure that it is nothing to do with having pentium-builder installed, because without DEBIAN_ARCHITECTURE=pentium set, it still refuses to build. The versions of libraries etc. that I have on my system are the standard slink ones, straight off the CD, no messing. If the problem is with the source code, can anybody verify that a more recent version will compile with stock slink? cheers for anybody's help, frankie P.S. Is it possible to just build one package out of a multi package source archive? (like e.g. xlib6g and xserver-svga? Part of the reason it takes so long to build is that it is building the libc5 and assorted servers (which I don't want) packages. I HAVE read the man pages + docs about dpkg-deb, build, etc. etc. but there is a case of a) two much information for me too take in at once, and b) too many different sets of docs to read. I suppose, given a long while to read it and ponder it over, I would be able to make sense of it, but I don't have the time, plus debian-users is just a few keystrokes away :-) -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-25056 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: deb vs. rpm
Thorsten Manegold wrote: It is done on a per package basis. So in that respect it's like rpm. No? 'apt-get install exim' will install all libraries that it depends on and Doesn't rpm do that too? uninstall all mta's that it conflicts with. With or without asking? The .deb format is not just a package format it is a database of information about packages, namely version, dependencies, conflicts and As far as I know that is the case with rpm too, isn't it? recommends. That is not a feature of rpm as far as I know. Thus when you upgrade your system, dpkg/apt downloads all software selected and dependencies, then sets them up, if there is a conflict it uninstalls what is conflicting, then after everthing is installed and configure correctly, it deletes the downloaded packages so that your system is not loaded down with .deb files. There is nothing like it in existence, it is the superior package format. Forget about popularity for a moment and think about raw technical superiority. That is the debian format. You will love it when you try it. I heard that it's supposed to be supperior. As a matter of fact that is the main reason for me to try Debian (I started out with SuSE and am still using it. However I don't like the way they package things as it's not compatible to rpm's that I find on the net since they just to add my .02 euros :- debian has loads more packages in its distribution that redhat do in theirs, so (hopefully) you shuldn't need to mess about with (untrustworthy) .rpms from the 'net. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Linux hangs when net too used
Conrado Badenas wrote: Hi all! I've been having problems with Linux the last months, but now I have isolated the problem: Linux hangs. 1) I thought it was the kernel but it hangs with 2.0.34, 2.0.35 and 2.2.1 2) Then I thought it was the memory but memtest (package sysutils) says it is OK. 3) Then I thought I was being attacked with a DNS, but I read about them and kernel 2.2.1 should stop teardrop, winnuke, etc. 2 points: 1) DNS = Domain Name Something-or-Other, DoS = Denial of Service 2) There are loads of possible ways that your system could go down due to a DoS attack - winnuke, teardrop et al. are just the very publicised methods. Variations on these and new methods will be discovered/invented on a regular basis. 4) Then somebody told me that maybe only X hanged and I could access my machine from outside: I checked that I couldn't telnet/ftp/http my machine from outside 5) Now, one of my users connected from outside via ftp and began uploading a file of more than 3 Mb. He tried it three times, and my machine hanged three times (one hang, one boot, one hang, one boot, one hang, one boot, I denied access to this user, no hangs) WHAT IS HAPPENING? I love Linux but my friends laugh at me when I tell them that Linux hangs. You do not say what hardware you are using:- this sounds to me like a hardware problem. 2.0.36 is a widely used kernel. It has been around (or at least the latter 2.0.x series has) for a long time ( 1 year), so it should be pretty stable. It is unlikely that you have discovered a new kernel bug that no other linux users have noticed. As it happens when your user was ftping, this could be when there was extra network usage (although it could also be to do with memory, hard disk, motherboard ... Do you use an ethernet card or a modem or what? What manufacturer/model? You need to give some info. Are you compiling your own kernel or using the stock debian one? -- Conrado Badenas (Assistant Lecturer) Department of Thermodynamics. University of Valencia c/. Doctor Moliner, 50 | e-m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 46100 Burjassot (Valencia) | Phn: +34 - 963 864 350 SPAIN| Fax: +34 - 963 983 385 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
compiling debian sources question?
' in `../twm_3.3.2.3a-11_i386.deb'. debian/create-arch-xbase-clients cp: debian/xtree/usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg: No such file or directory make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1 * Build finished at 13:44 on 1999-05-03 Build FAILED Any idea what is going wrong and what I can do about it? Is it to do with me having pentium-builder installed? without DEBIAN_ARCHITECTURE=pentium set, it still refuses to build. The versions of libraries etc. that I have on my system are the standard slink ones. cheers for anybody's help, frankie P.S. Is it possible to just build one package out of a multi package source archive? (like e.g. xlib6g and xserver-svga? Part of the reason it takes so long to build is that it is building the libc5 and assorted servers (which I don't want) packages. I HAVE read the man pages + docs about dpkg-deb, build, etc. etc. but there is a case of a) two much information for me too take in at once, and b) too many different sets of docs to read. I suppose, given a long while to read it and ponder it over, I would be able to make sense of it, but I don't have the time, plus debian-users is just a few keystrokes away :-) -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
GDM
Hi, I know gnome and potato are dodgy beta software :-), but... I am tring to run gdm with the 3.3.3.3.3.3 SVGA X server, mostly potato. I have previously had xdm, login.app c installed with this setup with no problems. However, when I installed gdm, the gdmwelcome screen comes up ok. When I select the user and try and login however, x dies, with this error message in the log: gdm_auth_secure_display: Could not unlink /var/state/gdm/authdir/:0.xauth file: No such file or directory However, when it restarts, that file exists. Any idea what is going wrong here? cheers, frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Good MP3 encoder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a good MP3 encoder for linux? I have an old copy of 8hz-mp3, but it takes like 10hrs to rip and encode a cd. I'd prefer an open source encoder, but am not opposed to a commercial one. I just want to get one that is fast. TIA, chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I use cdgrab (debian package) and an encoder (dist10 or lsf maybe??), which is not available as a .deb On my P-60 it takes ~1 hour for a track. You didn't mention what processor you have, so it may or may not be faster than the one you already have. Anyway there are two files you need for this encoder - dist10.tar.gz and dist10patch-2.1f.gz frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Newbie Questions
Mark Phillips wrote: Or edit your own .xinitrc and .xsession to change it for your self only. Have you been able to work out the difference between .xinitrc and .xsession? From what I've been able to gather, .xinitrc is not used by Debian --- is this right? Cheers, Mark. .xinitrc is used if you start X with 'startx' and .xession if you run xdm. frankie _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Microsoft Announces MS-Linux
. +--+ | Mike Nachlinger (408) 446-9914 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Apres Ski Club 1-888-APRESGO www.apres.org | +--+ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
Nick Rudd wrote: yes i have only windows 98 installed on my computer. I was wondering if there was any way that i could convert FAT 32 back into FAT16 without reinstalling windows. Yeah there is a way. There may be others, but this way is the only way I know - and doesn't require purchasing any proprietary software :-) I am sorry if I have made any errors - dont blame me, it is late, I am tired. It is possible to do this, though noone seems to have bothered to tell him / thought of it. This requires you to be using ~80 MB (the size of a basic linux distro) less than one half of your hard disk (ie have 1/2 your harddisk+80Mb free ). Also you will need some extra space, because FAT32 is more efficient than FAT16 - the exact amount depends on the size of your harddisk, and the specific files on your harddrive. Use fips from dos to reduce your win98 to the smallest size possible. Then, you need to install linux into the ~80MB on your hard disk. (I would suggest creating partitions at the end of the free space not the beginning - if you can use partition manager to mess around with them later this could make it easier to resize them) in the spare disk space on your harddrive, create a new DOS partition (be sure only to create a fat16 partition :-) ) format this new partition under linux. mount your new and old DOS partitions under linux, and with a cp -av old-dos-partition-mount-point/* new-dos-partition-mount-point you will be able to copy all of your windows files from the Fat32 partion to the new fat16 partition. [BTW all of this is without a reboot :-)] Now you need to set the new partition active with fdisk or cfdisk or sthg, then boot of a DOS floppy to make the new partition bootable??? then if you reboot, you should come up under windows on your new, FAT16 partition. when you are sure that everything is working correctly, you can delete your old FAT32 partition, and reinstall linux on that partition, and you will be able to install X-windows etc and see how your computer should really work. Of course it would probably be quicker to back up your entire hard disk onto floppy, by hand, then reformat your harddrive [or even spend some money on some mass storage device and back it up onto that] but you asked. frankie Always glad to be of help :-) -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
Mitch Blevins wrote: George Bonser wrote: What type of integration are you thinking of? Drag and drop from a spreadsheet, word processor, or graphics program ... the embedable opject idea. Having the mail program be able to directly render some standard wp formats, show graphic items within the document, etc. Drag FROM a email to a spreadsheet, database, whatever. Shared document areas and stuff. Sort of like how exchange and outlook are SUPPOSED to work only make it REALLY work. It is a powerful concept, just klunky in its implimentation and its wandering away from existing standards. Easy handling of attachments would be nice (DnD). But I would have a problem with the direct rendering of graphics, WP, spreadsheets, etc... This sounds like an easy way to spread trojans thru buffer overflows, macros, etc. (Witness the Melissa virus) Also, I don't think the OLE/Baboon paradigm lends itself well to email. Other office apps, yes. But email, no. Call me old-fashioned, but I think email should remain a primarily text-based medium. Nothing irks me more that some nut sending an HTML email to the Debian lists. Don't pretend you haven't done it - everyone's done it b4 they realised. I'm sure its some kind of debian-user rite of passage :-) frankie JMHO, -Mitch -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???
BENJAMIN FARRELL wrote: Heres a good point about linux, anyone found a good irc client for x (other than Bitchx in a E-Term :) that doesn't crash everytime you click (yagirc anyone). I still find for everyday use Win95/NT is better (quaking, ircing, browsing, ftping). It seems that linux has quite a good range of applications, just a case of find one, and one that works fine. And its not too difficult to find them -1) look in your distro 2)look at sunsite PS ftp in linux WORKS - it deals with symlinks properly (not like annoying WS_FTP etc, virtually every linux ftp proggy will CONTINUE unfinished d/ls if you want) frankie // Ben Farrell (BigBadBen) -Original Message- From: Jerry Lynn Kreps [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; suse-linux-e@suse.com suse-linux-e@suse.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: 28 March 1999 21:23 Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ??? mmm I must be delusional. I haven't booted my Win95 side in months (When SuSE 6.1 with the 2.2.x kernel comes out I will reclaim that space for Linux) so how am I keeping my checkbook balanced and reconciled? Must be a phantom copy of cbb. I do my symbolic math with MuPAD 3.4 instead of MathCad 7.0 but I must be dilusional there also. My scanner scans perfectly well using Sane-1.0, which is called out of GIMP-1.0 and my other graphics programs, to say nothing of Blender-1.37 and Varkon, but I must be imagining things. I think I'm enjoying air combat simulation with ACM 5.0, which is much better than M$ Flight Sim. I'm not into music but I do know there are some fantasic sound and sound analysis programs. To sum up, has this guy done any serious searching? JLK (Ted Harding) wrote: Apologies for duplicate postings, but I'd like to make sure I sound a diverse population. Today' London Sunday Times feature Innovation (pp 10-11 of News Review, http://www.sunday-times.co.uk ) has an article by David Hewson (of Linux, the Program from Hell fame) entitled Linux wins backing of computing giants. His attitude to Linux is much more moderate than it was: the article is basically balanced and fair, including some sound negative comment. However, he states: Comments, info, contributions, anyone? Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 28-Mar-99 Time: 12:49:27 -- XFMail -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Problems installing Debian on a 486
Matthew Gregan wrote: At 15:03 1999-03-23 -0800, Alan Bailward wrote: other machine, it brings up the boot: prompt, and then starts to load the root FS from root.bin.. After loading for a while it fails with the message A20 gate not responding!... I can't answer your question, BUT I can tell you this: This is to do with protected mode, and the keyboard. the only other time that I know of this occuring is occasionally with himem.sys (xx-DOS) on older hardware. If it can't do this, HIMEM.SYS uses some other handler - not sure how linux is meant to do this. frankie [snip] The problem machine is a 486DX33 with 8MB of RAM, if you need more info about the hardware, please let me know. Could it be that the kernel on the rescue disk was compiled for 586+? Could that be causing it? I'm grasping I know, but... :) These are the rescue disks from the debian-slink disk-i386 dir... I'm pretty sure they're not using a kernel for 586+ architecture... I should also mention that someone suggested I try the tecra rescue disk. I did that, and had no luck... I get the same message, so now I'm really stumped, having read the readme for the tecra disk I would have though that'd fix the problem. Thanks again... -- Matthew Gregan[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Gnome Installation
Shawn Nguyen wrote: Hi, I've just installed gnome on my system but nothing seems to be happening. I am running the WindowMaker Manager. The tool box shows some gnome stuff like the gnome panel but when I click on it nothing happens, it's the same with everything else. Does anyone know where I can get information as to how I can do a correct install of gnome. I have the gnome use guide printed up but it doesn't cover installation. Any advice would be of great help. Thank you. Shawn -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null you could try running gnome-panel or whatever from an xterm - that way you see error messages, and you can work out if its eg cos you have old libraries etc. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: true type fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so I've installed xfstt - the true type font server. The package says it doesn't contain any fonts, and I can't find a package of them via dselect. Can anyone point me to the true type fonts package(s)? TIA, Jay -- Hi, I recently installed xfstt. This is what I did: I mounted my bin98 partition (and updated fstab to load it every time) from /usr/lib/share/fonts/truetype, I did ln -s /dos/c/windows/fonts/*.ttf . I then had to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config in the FontPath section I added to the end ,unix/:7101 Then to test it I used xfontsel. the far left box now has an additional thingy - ttf. if you know how fontsel works, then that should be enough. Note: when I added the font path initially got the / and the : the wrong way round - xdm refused to start, and kept trying to restart - so temporarily remove/didable xdm (if you use it) to be on the safe side or keep a rescue disk handy. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: mp3 encoder packaged for debian?
Torsten Hilbrich wrote: Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had a look through dselect and I can't seem to find an mp3 encoder. (any number of players, but no recorders). Is there one, or do I have to go to sunsite, find one and roll it myself? I heard someone is going to package l3enc. I suggest that you download the encode from ftp://wopr.campus.luth.se/pub/mpeg_layer_3/, it is faster than l3enc. Torsten -- Homepage: http://www.in-berlin.de/User/myrkr -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I found lame : this is suggested in the docs for cdgrab (although I'd have thought someone would have packaged it because of that, hmm. Lame runs very slow on my P-60, like several hours for an album, but I'll try some others and see which is best) frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: size of swap
Armin Wegner wrote: Hi, I've got 128 megs ram. Which size should I choose for the swap partition? Thanks, Armin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null hi, the usual recommendation is to have the swap at 1.5 times your memory, but at 128MB you shouldn't ever need that much. Unless you are running an app that might need loads of swap (eg mathcad) then 64 MB is a number that is often bandied around in answer to this question. Essentially you dont want to run out of memory, but also, you dont want to use up too much disk space. (for your info, in my 40 MB RAM machine I have 50 MB swap, for your perspective. I have never used more than half of it (and that was with about 6 netscapes, X, and an mp3 encoder), although I have never run staroffice and compiled my kernel at the same time etc etc) frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
mp3 encoder packaged for debian?
I've had a look through dselect and I can't seem to find an mp3 encoder. (any number of players, but no recorders). Is there one, or do I have to go to sunsite, find one and roll it myself? frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: RealPlayer
Paul Puri wrote: 2nd that... I wanna now too Original Message On 3/9/99, 9:15:26 PM, Alec Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding RealPlayer: I just installed RealPlayer 5 on my Debian 2.1 system. If I start Real manually, I can open and play various clips. However, I have been able to make Netscape open RealPlayer, however it doesn't seem to be passing the URL info from the link. I want to click a RealAudio link, and have RealPlayer load and play the clip automatically as Winblows dose. I'm currently using Communicator 4.51. Any assistance is appreciated. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I don't know, but I imagine that you want to check this: in Edit-Preferences-Applications, find the entries for Realaudio (*.rm *.ram etc) and make sure that the command line includes %s. Just a suggestion, frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: How to get Debian and (argh!) Windows 95 machines linked through null modem?
Paul Huygen wrote: Pablo (Spectra) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a big problem and little time to solve. Can anyone help me? I have to get a Debian (hamm) machine and a (argh!) Windows 95 one linked through a null modem cable using PPP protocol. The Debian machine can be able to connect Internet through ppp0. Try Samba. Debian supports Samba. Samba supports the Windows networking style via TCP-IP. Alas, I can't help you with the lack of time you have. Recently I have set up a network with Samba and it has cost me much time and many questions on a local dutch Linux mailing list to get it going. Paul Huygen -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null if you have installed one of the doc-linux packages, then look at the PPP-HOWTO (on my system, doing zless /usr/doc/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO works) This has a section about using ppp over a nullmodem cable to connect to other OSs Samba is jumping the gun a bit at this stage : - you need to have ppp connectivity working first, then you might want to think about file/printer sharing. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
uploading a website (reverse mirror)?
I have a slow modem. My website is ~9MB. When I change files in it, I don't want to have to a) upload the whole site or b) remember which files I've changed, and upload them manually. ftp-upload and sitecopy both upload a site based on local changes. They do not consult the remote site to see which files need updating. They base it on what they THINK have changed. There may be times when I will upload files from another OS, so I do not want to have to upload files twice, depending on which OS I upload them with. Is there an upload utility that compares local and remote file versions and uploads the changed version based on the differences between local and remote systems rather than local and old_local versions? cheers, frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: uploading a website (reverse mirror)?
George Bonser wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Frankie wrote: Is there an upload utility that compares local and remote file versions and uploads the changed version based on the differences between local and remote systems rather than local and old_local versions? You might be able to run something like mirror on the remote system that looks at your local system at regular intervals and grabs any changes. As long as the local files are accessable with ftp from the remote site, it should be OK. Sorry I should have said - I do not have an account on this machine. I have FTP only. :-( -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: uploading a website (reverse mirror)?
oneiros wrote: Thus spake Frankie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a slow modem. My website is ~9MB. When I change files in it, I don't want to have to a) upload the whole site or b) remember which files I've changed, and upload them manually. mirrordir works very nicely for this purpose, and more. You can use it to transfer only new / changed files, optionally delete no longer existent files, handle permissions, and such. It's very robust mirroring and synchronisation program, I think it's defiantly worth your consideration. cheers - the only one I hadn't tried and it does the job perfectly! -- .oO,.. oneiros ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ..,Oo. ... and the `fortune -s` for this e-mail is ... Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art. -- Charles McCabe -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Vote Linus for Person of the Century
George Bonser wrote: On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just did, but is this list not moderated, Jesus Christ is so far I now, from a different century and he is on top? Matth Don't even think Linus should BE the person of the century. That honor probably goes to Thomas Edison. We owe our current culture and style of living to that guy. His experiments with his lightbulb led to the discovery of the Edison effect which led DeForest to do some more experiments which led to the Vacuum Tube which led to the Transistor, which lead to the IC Chip. Not only was Edison's work responsible for laying the ground work for radio and television, he also played vital roles in bringing motion pictures and recorded music to the public. True. I agree with you about electricity. It has made a HUGE impact on our lives. So, I nominate gallileo, because (if I'm wrong, subsitute some ridiculously ancient bod that experimented with electricity) he messed about with electricity and frogs legs. This directly led to further experimentation by a variety of scientists, (including Edison) which ultimately led to a complete change in our [the western world's] lifestyles. Oh OK, it was for this century. yes, it has to be Edison - he is the earliest well known and significant (and american) electricity experimenter in this century. Best choose him. Not the first, but the first you could think of. :-) (no offence intended) Linus Torvalds is probablt important but nowhere near THE most important. Lets try to keep some perspective. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Safest way to segregate /usr (or others)
Andrei Ivanov wrote: Just get the new drive ready for Linux (partition and make fs) Make a new directory on the drive, and then just copy the /usr files into it. cp -av should do it. (assuming you didnt know how to copy or you wouldnt have asked how to do it) frankie Then edit /etc/fstab to indicate the new mount point. Reboot to make sure it's all fine, and you are set. Andrew --- Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
Ed Cogburn wrote: Frankie wrote: snip You are perhaps referring the Linux Standard Base that RH and Deb have, for the moment, agreed to? The problem is that the greater RH's dominance becomes, the greater the chance that they will no longer see this kind of cooperation as desirable, and in effect decide on their own that RH *is* the Linux Standard Base. If they don't try too hard too quickly, then I fear they just might get away with it. This is exactly what I meant in my original post, when I asked if redhat were the next MS. The thing that worried me most about the poll I saw, was that there was only one major distro, and such a huge gap between the others: If all of the distros are growing at a rate of, say, 30%, then where does that leave us in 1 years time? the bigger get bigger and the smaller get smaller, relatively. That is, debian has to grow at 130% just to stay in the same league as redhat. This is, perhaps, an inherent flaw of capitalism, although lets not go into that. With MS, once they were the biggest, (corporation/market share/whatever) it became very hard for them to be knocked. They always had the upperhand against any of their competitors. (Plus they may (pending result of US suit against MS) have been prepared to play dirty) Thus Redhat, being 3 times as large as debian will be able to push debian aside if it desires, or to impose conditions on debian if it decides to do so. At the moment that seems impossible, and I think it is, but as linux stops being a geeky sideline OS (as is happening at the moment), but becomes a serious player, both in the server and desktop markets, then linux will be mainstream, and then there will be no more friendly cooperation between the distros. This is why debian needs to expand its user base, apart from anything else. We're in agreement, although I'm more pessimistic about Linux's chances in the desktop market. The problem is how can Debian grow its user base any faster? Debian is not a commercial company that defines its success by its market share. Even if Debian had the money to spend on advertising, I'm willing to bet there will be a significant number of developers who would consider paying for advertising as a waste of money. Quite possibly - if everyone who has a website were to stick a debian logo on it, it would increase visibility and knowledge of debian. This would cost nothing. I know I've said it before, but if I say it again it will do no harm. Slashdot has a redhat logo, for example, and linus t and alan c are known to use redhat - I think I read that rms uses debian (or has recently installed it or sthg). Couldn't this info be disseminated to a wider audience? The bloke that wrote (or whatever) the majority of the programs you use uses debian? Like George Bonser has said previously, I think the only way that Debian is going to grow its market share better than its currently growing is for the creation of a commercial company which adopts Debian as its base distribution. This company can provide corporate support to enhance Debian's position in the corporate world, and improve the install and maintenance of the system, by adding new software which isn't a priority for current Debian developers. That may be true, but debian has become deputy leading distro with NO paid advertising, and no commercial backing, So it must have reasonable marketing anyway. This is my list of ways to improve the position of debian for free: (the more times I repeat it on debian user, the more it will sink in hopefully :-) ) Obviously recommending debian to colleagues/associates/friends ) sticking a debian logo on your website ) pestering major sites to display a debian logo ) Making sure that articles are written for stuff like slashdot/32bitsonline etc that mention debian. ) When potential customers discover Debian is purely a volunteer effort, they will assume that Debian is some kind of slap-dash, low quality product. Most of these companies will want a distribution that has corporate support available for it. Unfortunately, I don't see any improvement of the situation, unless such a commercial company actually gets established. Valid point - couldn't the volunteer nature be made into a positive thing? Like that the people who work on debian are every bit as qualified, but WANT TO. (that hopefully implies dedication/committedness/quality or whatever) frankie -- Ed C. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http
ciscom/wisecom WS-5614JS3(G) modem?
Hi, A friend is installing debian for the first time. He can't get his modem to work (his modem is a ciscom/wisecom WS-5614JS3(G), apparently) I assume hes just mucked up his isapnp or something, but before I go round to sort it out and waste my effort on a binmodem, I wondered if anybody else had had any difficulty getting this modem to work? cheers, frankie
Re: dselect Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
Wayne Cuddy wrote: If there is one feature that I would LOVE to see in dselect it would be to save all the packages I have selected and allow my to load the selection on a new system so I don't have to do it everytime. Maybe this feature is already there and I don't know about it... Wayne you want to use dpkg --get-selections file , dpkg --set-selections file frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
snip You are perhaps referring the Linux Standard Base that RH and Deb have, for the moment, agreed to? The problem is that the greater RH's dominance becomes, the greater the chance that they will no longer see this kind of cooperation as desirable, and in effect decide on their own that RH *is* the Linux Standard Base. If they don't try too hard too quickly, then I fear they just might get away with it. This is exactly what I meant in my original post, when I asked if redhat were the next MS. The thing that worried me most about the poll I saw, was that there was only one major distro, and such a huge gap between the others: If all of the distros are growing at a rate of, say, 30%, then where does that leave us in 1 years time? the bigger get bigger and the smaller get smaller, relatively. That is, debian has to grow at 130% just to stay in the same league as redhat. This is, perhaps, an inherent flaw of capitalism, although lets not go into that. With MS, once they were the biggest, (corporation/market share/whatever) it became very hard for them to be knocked. They always had the upperhand against any of their competitors. (Plus they may (pending result of US suit against MS) have been prepared to play dirty) Thus Redhat, being 3 times as large as debian will be able to push debian aside if it desires, or to impose conditions on debian if it decides to do so. At the moment that seems impossible, and I think it is, but as linux stops being a geeky sideline OS (as is happening at the moment), but becomes a serious player, both in the server and desktop markets, then linux will be mainstream, and then there will be no more friendly cooperation between the distros. This is why debian needs to expand its user base, apart from anything else. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
CHOS and ontracks disk manager?
Has anybody had any succes getting ontracks disk manager and chos to coexist? (if I put the ddo on when chos is installed, the ddo says 'cant find OS'.) I have no problems using DDO and windows. cheers, frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
Peter Ludwig wrote: snip January 1999 have net account will download! At the beginning of the year I'd gotten very bored with everything and decided to attempt to download and install debian off the net. This time things went great. To summarize the good points I have found with debian :- 1) Package list is very large, and so provides a large amount of options for its users. 2) Software is free. This is good for me who is broke. 3) dselect. Yep, I think dselect is very good. requires a little fine tuning to me (like search facility, faster loading of package lists, etc), but pretty decent job. I believe there is a search facility in dselect - the / key will search the package names for a string, the \ key will search again. I think it would be useful to be able to search the descriptions as well, though. snip 3) No documentation on how to load/use the original programs that loaded when installing. That is, can I load again the program that allowed me to setup the modules??? If so where is it? Those programs are very helpful for initial installation, but sometimes (as in my case) you might change your mind later on and want to use that program to go over something again. snip I think modconf is what you're after. The other program on the install disks, pkgsel, (the one where you select the groups of packages) doesn't get installed unfortunately. -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
I don't know where to post this to, but this seemed as good a place as any. This is not a Debian vs Redhat flame war email, so please do not treat this posting like that. A couple of weeks ago there was a poll, which showed that redhat hat had about 2 or three times as many users as debian, and that redhat was first with debian was second, but far closer to the other distros than to redhat. Now I may be wrong, but I believe that many (if not the majority) of linux users are attracted to linux because its free, and because it is symbolic of the backlash against the large corporation ethos of many of its competitors, rather than its reliability (let alone it's ease of use :-)) OK, so the two leading distros are redhat and debian. debian, on the one hand, is run as a voluntary organisation etc, whereas redhat is (or is going the way of) a corporation, in the sense that it employs programmers, is very far ahead of any of the competition and (arguably although I think) sacrifices reliability over commercial factors. (eg rushing distros to get them out to coincide with the marketers strategy). I know that redhat have done a good job in promoting linux for the masses etc, but does redhat seem like the next MS to you? On the basis that linux is soundly based on ideology and a belief that the internet should remain free, debian may well be the best distribution, and on that basis, redhat the worst. Yet most linux users opt for redhat. This is perhaps because they don't really care or understand about the history of linux or the philosophy behind it. Essentially debian at the moment has the potential of becoming the linux distro for RMS wannabes and noone else. Personally, I want my distro to be the best distro, and I believe it is. But the vast numbers of users who prefer redhat to debian means that when (as will probably happen, due to their commercial nature), redhat decide to consolidate their position, debian will lose out. I think that debian needs to adopt a (slightly) aggressive marketing policy, to increase its userbase. The fact that it doesn't have professional marketers counts in redhat's favour. For example, in the last month or so, I have seen one debian logo on a website, about 15 redhat logos, and no logos for any other distro. This could easily be corrected, by, for example, the debian organisation writing to major linux sites (eg /. , freshmeat etc) and asking them to display a debian logo. Or, failing that, every reader of this posting with a website to display the debian logo when it comes out on their website. This would provide an amount of free advertising for debian which would help to raise its profile. /rant cos I'm tired. frankie
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
Further to my previous posting: I have just found this article: http://www.zdnet.com/devhead/stories/articles/0,4413,2217609,00.html Is it any wonder redhat are number one when they can find people to write articles like this? frankie
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
Paul Nathan Puri wrote: We need, to work on the install. Debian is so awesome. Yet, will not be noticed by the masses unless the install method becomes better than RH. RH's method is open sourced. So there should be a way for debian to make it better. I'm willing to participate in a marketing effort. Such an effort will grow when there are entrepreneurs willing to base their tech biz efforts on debian. Perhaps, a 2 tier approach could ensue. 1) logo visibility effort; 2) (in yes I do strongly think that logo visibility could make a huge difference - specially if the logo had 'debian' AND 'linux' on it - this would help stop people associating linux with redhat. Plus putting a debian logo on your website, I suppose, is the least that you can do to thank the developers, making sure their work doesn't go unthanked or unnoticed, I suppose. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
StarOffice 5
Is there a recommended way of installing SO5 under debian? there doesn't seem to be an install Package for it (like there is for SO3)? should I just use setup as per the Staroffice instructions, and if so, I don't want to have to install it once for every user, so would I use the network installation as root? cheers, frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Disk Partioning (FDISK)
Stephen Lavelle wrote: Using Fdisk on a Disk that has a working copy of Win 98 which i wanted to put Debian on i get this error: Checking Boot sector Error: Number of Sectors (long) does not match partition info 2411873 instead of 3322305 Please help! I had this (or a very similar problem) a few months ago. my memory is a little hazy, but I think the problem may have been related to (previous?) use of ontrack's disk manager. aah yes it is coming back to me. I had this problem when I was using fips. I believe that I solved it by checking which of the values was the correct one, maybe by calculating it manually, based on the disk parameters, and using some disk utility or something to put the correct value in somehow. I am sorry that I cannot be more helpful, but I am just relating my experiences as I remember them. frankie. -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;-12128 fn:Frankie end:vcard
how much processor time is allocated to a program
I am sure that when I first started using debian/linux I had a program (I think part of another packages), and if you ran thisprogram anotherprogram then it would rum anotherprogram and tell you exactly how much time was allocated to the running of that program. I don't know where to look in dselect, so can anyone remember what it was called? [maybe this would be a good time to suggest that dselect lets you search the descriptions as well] cheers, frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: where is telnetd?
Eliezer Figueroa wrote: Is telnetd part of the of the official debian 2.0 CD'S because I failed to find it? yes it is - its in net. Is there a FIND command in dslect, in order to find a package by typing it's name? yes there is - `/' to search, `\' to search again - this only searches the names afaik, and there is no way to search the descriptions. Is telnetd part of any of the preselected packeged that debian recommend just as you finished the instal process and before starting dselect? I assume so - probably under basic internet stuff. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
modem doesn't work at startup
Hi, when I turn my computer on, and try to dial out (with xisp), it won't connect. after trial and error I have find that I can usually get it to dialout with wvdial. However, when wvdial is run, I get 5 or 6 lines of [07][07][07] etc., before wvdial works properly. My computer is a Pentium-60 with part hamm/part slink/part potato, and a 2.2.1 kernel. I'd be really grateful for any help. Frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;-12128 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Need help with Leafnode/Netscape
Dave Swegen wrote: You could try going into /etc/hosts.allow and changing the hostnames for leafnode so that they use numeric values instead (ie change 'localhost' to '127.0.0.1'). HTH Cheers Dave On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 04:03 -0600, John C. Ellingboe wrote: I am unable to connect to my Leafnode server from my workstation running Netscape. I an running a server system with Debian hamm and some slink packages advised by security advisories and a workstation with hamm and some slink packages including Netscape 4.06. I have installed and configured Leafnode version 1.4 on my server system. When I try to connect to it from my workstation system I get the following message from Netscape. An error occurred with the News server. If you are unable to connect again, contact the administrator for this server. Is it right that you are running netscape on a different machine to leafnode? I think by default it blocks all access except access from the same machine (so people out there don't use your machine to spam). If you haven't changed your hosts.allow to include an entry from your workstation (like leafnode: 123.123.123.123), you probably want to. Frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;-12128 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Goodbye, people!
Assuming you still haven't got your CD-ROM working, tell me the answers to these questions and they might be enough to establish what you need to do to get your cd working: what kernel version are you using? - I might be able to compile you a module for that kernel. Do you have any other kernel versions on your debian CD? (to find this out, boot from the rescue disk, press alt-F2, enter to open the shell, mount /dev/hdd /mnt, cd /mnt/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/base, ls kernel*) If you have you could copy these files onto your harddisk once you have mounted some partitions, then carry on with the install. Then when you need the cdrom drive, use alt-F2 to get to another login prompt, login there, change to the directory where you copied the CD to, dpkg -i kernel* and hopefully that kernel will have the iso9660 module in it. Then you can reboot, and try accessing your CD then. type dpkg and that will get you into the debian package managemnt system. If you need any further help/questions, I'll help you if I can, Frankie http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.ukbegin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard
MS FrontPage alternative?
Is there a linux alternative to MS FP, or better a still, a decent dtp-style html editor without the crappy FP server extensions that many hosts still dont have, and the faulty hoverbutton script etc etc etc? Also can anyone point me to some information regarding the relative merits of gnome and kde ? (I don't want to start a discussion about a topic which I'm sure has been done to death) Yours, Frankie Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links.begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard
modem overflow and wierd ppp stuff
Hi, When I turn my computer on or reboot it, I get lots of buffer overflow at ttyS3 messages. My modem is crrectly identified at startup by setserial and that as a 16550A. I know this is correct because win95 also identifies it as having some sort of FIFO. If I want to use ppp, (with pon) it just hangs there, unles I run pppd, wait for all the rubbish to diappear, then run pon. After I have run pppd and waited the overflow messages never return. Also, when I want to use one of the 2.2.0-pre series of kernels, ppp will not work at all. (It claims that the kernel is not configured with ppp support, which is wrong, because I built it with ppp support enabled) Any ideas? Frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links.
Re: doom (sorry)
Daniel Martin wrote: Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have just d/l doom shareware version, unfortunately, it wants libXt.so.3 for the X version, and the svga version wants libc.so.4. What packages are these in? I had a look in oldlibs, but I'm not entirely sure what I should look for, so O didn't find anything. You want the xlib-compat package. I believe that this package has finally disappeared from Debian 2.1, though, so you'll need a 2.0 (hamm) archive or CD. I have the cheapbytes 2.0 CD, and that doesn't seem to have an xlib-compat package on it. :-( Any ideas where else I might look? (debian.org draws a blank as well) Frankie -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links.
2.2.0pre7 and ppp
What steps do I have to take to ensure kernel support for ppp? (I have compiled the kernel with ppp support compiled in and as modules) Do I have to download a new ppp source or binary? if so where from? I am using latest ppp, from slink/potato (v2.5-2 I think) thanks in advance for any help, Frankie
Re: 2.2.0pre7 and ppp
Shaleh wrote: On 18-Jan-99 Frankie wrote: What steps do I have to take to ensure kernel support for ppp? (I have compiled the kernel with ppp support compiled in and as modules) Do I have to download a new ppp source or binary? if so where from? I am using latest ppp, from slink/potato (v2.5-2 I think) thanks in advance for any help, Frankie Frankie, what is the problem exactly? Are you getting No PPP support in the kernel messages? If so the real problem is that the user is not in the Yes I am getting no PPP support in the kernel messages. In the documentation/networking directory in my linux source, the file there concerning ppp suggests that I have to download a new version of ppp, although the version of the source there seems to be older than the one available from debian? Should I compile this older version on the ppp source? dialout (or is it dip) group (who should own the tty device) or the permisssions some how go messed up. Here are mine: crw-rw 1 root dialout4, 64 Jul 20 1998 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root dialout4, 65 Jul 20 1998 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root dialout4, 66 Jul 20 1998 /dev/ttyS2 I have checked my permissions, and they are correct. Frankie
