Re: Startx works, but sddm/lightdm/xdm doesn't
On Mon, Feb 28 2022, Felix Miata wrote: >> However, removing modesetting_drv.so from >> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers did. That solved the problem. > >> But it didn't switch to nouveau; it went to fbdev. > > You likely created a new problem. modesetting_drv.so is the default DIX for > AMD, > Intel and NVidia GPUs. fbdev is unaccelerated, and won't support most common > widescreen display modes. Some apps won't run on it. I don't think Gnome will > even > start using it. Using fbdev you can expect your PC to feel like it's running a > single core at 233MHz instead of 2000MHz or more on multiple cores. I was afraid of this, yes. > I don't know that I've ever migrated an installation using SDDM to another PC > using a majorly different GPU. I use TDM or KDM3 on most installations, with a > rare few on LightDM or SDDM, whose themes I always have extreme negative > appreciation for. Somehow the Live CDs must be doing something that works here. I guess it might be interesting to see what Debian Live KDE does on this box! John
Re: Startx works, but sddm/lightdm/xdm doesn't
On Mon, Feb 28 2022, Felix Miata wrote: > There are two nouveau drivers: > > kernel device > display device > modesetting > nouveau > > Both possible full-function display device drivers depend on the nouveau > kernel > driver (module). inxi -Gayz will show both. Try switching from the one in > current > use to the other. Adding or purging xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is typically > the > simplest way to switch between them. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ can also be used to > make the switch by explicitly declaring the chosen driver. The in-use display > driver is announced in roughly half the lines in each Xorg.#.log. Interestingly, purging xserver-xorg-video-nouveau didn't change anything. However, removing modesetting_drv.so from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers did. That solved the problem. But it didn't switch to nouveau; it went to fbdev. But, since I also want to boot this drive on other machines that need it, I can't just leave it that way. It also leaves open the question of why it worked fine in startx, or after logging in with sddm, which is darn weird to me. > Try disabling Plymouth, appending one of the following to the end of the linu > line > after striking the E key at the Grub menu: Thanks for the tip; no change there (I wasn't using the graphical stuff anyhow). > If none help, try appending your display's native mode & refresh instead, > e.g.: > > video=1920x1080@60 > > If this works, likely an edit to /etc/default/grub about graphics handling or > theme, and regeneration of /boot/grub/grub.cfg, is indicated. It's also already getting that right from EDID, so I'm pretty sure that's not the issue. Thanks again! John
Startx works, but sddm/lightdm/xdm doesn't
Hi, I have a system with a GeForce 1050 Ti on bullseye. On this system, if I log in as a regular user and run startx, everything works fine; KDE Plasma comes up and it's all good. But sddm doesn't work. In fact, when it starts, it causes my monitor to go "no signal". Oddly, though, if I can log in blindly, then once I hit enter after putting in my password, KDE will come up and work like it should. I also tried lightdm and xdm. Both of them also had "no signal" when starting. It is using the nouveau driver. There are no errors in Xorg.0.log, journalctl, dmesg, syslog, or the xsession log. lspci doesn't show any other graphics adapter. xrandr on the sddm session shows it detected the appropriate output at the appropriate resolution. Xorg.0.log looks completely appropriate; detecting devices, setting them up, etc. If I boot the same drive on a different box with Intel graphics, sddm works fine. This is a fresh bullseye install. A am utterly baffled; I'd think at least xdm should work! Thanks, John
Re: Xorg on dfsbuilt live CD
On Tue September 11 2007 4:55:36 am Piotr Kopszak wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get Xwindows going on a live etch CD I prepare using dfsbuilt on recent etch. In my dfs.cfg I added the following packages: x-window-system-core xorg larswm The CD builds OK. It runs fine in text mode however when I try to start Xwindows it complains about inaccessible /var/log directory and quits. Any ideas? It probably wants to be able to write to that directory. There is a line in dfs.cfg where you can list the files/dirs that you will want to put on the ramdisk instead of on the CD. -- John Piotr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:20:00PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind! After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer present in my operating system! Instead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle. F.u...k, #%[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5^%^*(@ %$$%^$ Urm, you do realize that Iceweasel *IS* Firefox, right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Debian From Scratch 0.99.0
I received a comment suggesting that I forward this message on to debian-user. So here goes. Please make sure to CC me on replies as I'm not on this list. Thanks, -- John - Forwarded message from John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:18:12 -0500 To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian From Scratch 0.99.0 Debian From Scratch (DFS) is a single, full rescue CD capable of working with all major filesystems, LVM, software RAID, and even compiling a new kernel. The DFS ISO images also contain a small Debian mirror subset that lets you use cdebootstrap, along with the other utilities on the CD, to perform a manual, Gentoo-like installation. It also serves as an excellent rescue CD, with a full compliment of filesystem tools, backup/restore software, and a development environment complete enough to build your own kernels. DFS also refers to dfsbuild, the tool that generates DFS images. dfsbuild is available as a Debian package. dfsbuild is designed to make it trivial to build your own custom DFS images. You can have your own set of Debian packages on your images, your own kernels, etc. Unlike many other systems, you can go from the example dfs.cfg to a customized DFS build in just a few minutes, even if you've never used dfsbuild before. Today I am announcing the availability of DFS 0.99.0 images for i386/amd64 and dfsbuild 0.99.0. dfsbuild is available in sid and (hopefully shortly) testing. My DFS ISOs are available from http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/ DFS is not a separate distribution. DFS images *are* Debian. What you get when you boot a DFS CD is etch (or whatever you built your own images with), with a few minor tweaks to make it run from CD-ROM. These are the major changes since the previous incarnation of DFS: * Entire program rewritten from scratch. Ported from OCaml to Haskell, with some Busybox scripts. * DFS now supports Debian initramfs kernels out of the box. It continues to support kernels with enough drivers statically compiled to load the CD. * Switched from apt-move to reprepro for the generation of the on-CD mini Debian mirror, saving space on the generated image. * DFS images now use (and require) udev. 2.4.x kernels are no longer supported. * CD-ROM autodetection via /sys. * My DFS images are now built with testing (etch). * My DFS images now come with multiple versions of GCC, plus development environments for C, Java, Perl, Haskell, Pyton, OCaml, shell, and tcl. * My DFS images now come with various version-control programs: CVS, darcs, bzr, subversion, git, cogito, arch2darcs, tailor, etc. * Numerous additions of other packages to the DFS images; full list at [1]. My DFS images now contain 575 packages. * My DFS images now built with etch, and come with enough .debs to cdebootstrap sarge, etch, or sid (assuming sid is stable enough at this time) * My DFS images continue to be able to cdebootstrap either an i386 or amd64 system. A more comprehensive list of DFS features is available at [2]. [1] http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/pkglist-0.99.0_i386.txt [2] http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/html/intro.html#FEATURES -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - -- John Goerzen Author, Foundations of Python Network Programming http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590593715 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: offlineimap duplicating emails
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:51:17PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: [John... I put you on Bcc to be sure you see this. Please forgive me.] No problem. You'll have to continue to CC me, though, since I'm not on -user. Some data would be useful: 1. What mail server is being used? 2. Are you using IMAP or Maildir on the local end? If IMAP, what local server? 3. What mail reader are you using? 4. Are you using any other mail programs to access the mail store on the server? After that, it would probably be useful if you could isolate a folder with just a few messages in it for testing... send along a dump of -1 -d imap and a ls -lR over your Maildir tree. -- John -- John Goerzen Author, Foundations of Python Network Programming http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590593715 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNUCash 1.6.4
This has already been fixed in version 1.6.4-2 which should now be available for powerpc and i386 in sid. -- John Stephen Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, I am trying to run GNUCash 1.6.4 and I get the following message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gnucash ERROR: no such module (g-wrapped gw-runtime) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I get the same error when running GNUCash 1.6.1. I did have 1.6.1 running, but I installed the 1.7.0 source files from cvs, installed the build dependecies and have not been able to run gnucash ever since. Thanks for your help. Cheers, Stephen Grant Brown PS Craig, I installed the files you suggested. -- John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED]GPG: 0x8A1D9A1Fwww.complete.org
Re: X broken at 3.3.6-8 potato update!!! a work-around fix
James D. Freels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fix as recommended by several folks is to rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix I trust this information is being passed on to the developers without a formal bug report. It would be far better to submit a bug report, actually. -- John
Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL]
John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Until that happens, I stand by the fact that xemacsXX depends on X in all extant cases. Being linked with a library is FAR different that requiring the X Window System (X). The difference is not hard to notice and I am surprised that you have missed it. If you tell me how to find out if package foo requires X save by the xlib6g dependency, I'll gladly concede the point. Good luck trying... Perhaps -- shock horror -- you might actually *boggle* READ THE DOCUMENTATION?! Furthermore, your logic quoted below is extremely faulty; xterm has no non-X mode; XEmacs does. Oops, looks like you have a flaw. Next thing I know you'll be claiming mc depends on GNOME and ls on Linux! Furthermore nothing. The only fault of logic here is your failure to address all bases for the analogy and your building a strawman. You are saying A is B, A is C; Z is B; therefore, Z is C. (Where A is xterm, B is depends on xlib6g, C is depends on X, and Z is XEmacs.) Notice the flaw in your logic yet? It should be obvious. As another example. Cars have windows. Cars need sparkplugs. Houses have windows. Therefore, houses need sparkplugs. Note that even though it is linked with an X library, it is still possible for it to ignore such. Not when you're installing it. The actual execution is irrelevant--you can't even install xemacs without X, and installation is just a bit higher You can, and I have. Please stop spouting these lies until you have actually tried it. up in the tree than execution: you can install without execution, but you can't execute without installing. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + via Remote -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Debian]: Deutsche Manpages
Kurt, Entschuldigen Sie bitte meine Grammatik. Ich spreche nur ein bisschen Deutsch. Wenn Sie Debian 2.1 haben, koennen Sie dies tun: Zuerst installieren Sie die Pakete manpages-de und manpages-de-dev. Dann schreiben Sie: export LANG=de_DE Jetzt koennen Sie schreiben, zum Beispiel: man cat Und Sie erhalten die deutsche manpage. -- John Kurt Stallknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ich muss das Thema noch einmal aufgreifen, da ich das selbe Problem habe und noch nicht Jau rufen kann. Die Umgebungsvariablen habe ich gesetzt und auch die AEnderungen in der manpath.conf vorgenommen. In bo hat das wunderbar geklappt, aber seit dem Update auf hamm muss ich das Manual wieder in Englisch lesen. Klaert sich das mit dem Update auf slink von alleine oder liegt es evtl. daran, dass bei mir z.B. LANG=de_DE und nicht LANG=de steht? Danke fuer jeden Hinweis, Kurt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian
Andrei Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it's a TV/Radio tuner which works under all the winblows versions Just because it works with Windows doesnt guarantee it's work with Linux. It's a WinTV card. Basicly, logic suggests it's a Win-hardware, and therefor you can not use it with Linux. This is incorrect. Those cards use the BT848 chipset, which is explicitly supported by Video4Linux.
Re: elm sending blank mails
Max Kamenetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, I haven't tried downgrading yet, though I know that the problem is not with the kernel version. I get the same problem with kernel 2.2.3. I'd also be very surprised if this were an MTA problem because pine works fine. I haven't tried downgrading glibc because that is a major task Pine and Elm may be talking in different ways to the MTA or feeding it different types of data. I'd suggest that you make a full bug report, including version numbers of everything, log files with as much debugging information as possible, a sample blank mail, and the like. Try it with different kernel versions, different libc versions, etc., replacing things one at a time until the problem goes away. (it's a whole bunch of packages, I'm not even sure where to begin with those). So, is there anyone out there using elm with exim and glibc2.1? There's got to be at least one person! Well, glibc2.1 is a *very* new introduction to unstable, and as such, is, well, unstable.
Re: elm sending blank mails
Max, I don't know if this is a problem with glibc2.1 or Exim -- neither of which I have the opportunity to test (my development platform is Alpha running sendmail). It is possible that your kernel version is causing trouble; being an unstable and development kernel could have its risks. Have you tried downgrading system components one by one to make sure that it's really an elm problem and not a glibc2.1 one? What happens with other MTAs? Max Kamenetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just upgraded my potato system to the latest version of libc and exim, and I'm not faced with the problem of elm sending blank e-mails. If I send a test message or reply to someone else's e-mail, the message comes out blank. The mail buffer gets written to a file in /tmp just like it's supposed to, and I can see that it's there right before I press s to send. The strange thing is that the message is sent empty, even though it gets written properly to my sent folder. There are no error messages in exim's mainlog. What is even stranger is that if I send a MIME message, it goes through OK. Pine also works fine. So, does anyone know what's going on? I'd really like to get this fixed ASAP, but it seems that the Debian version of elm wasn't compiled with debugging support. I'm running glibc2.1 under kernel 2.1.121. Thanks, and please reply via e-mail! Max Kamenetsky
Re: help me to undertand GMT time!!!!
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wrote: 12:00 noon, please. 12:00 pm is midnight... Pann McCuaig writes: I don't think so. 12:00pm is noon PM stands for post meridiem, which means after noon. Thus 12PM is 12 hours after noon, or midnight. No. By your logic, 12:01 PM is 12 hours and one minute after noon. 12:00 PM is noon, because the time switches from AM to PM at noon. Simple, eh? be 12AM or 12PM. The instant of midnight is both 12 hours before and 12 hours after noon, and therefor is both 12AM and 12PM. Say noon and midnight, or use 24 hour notation. Yes.
Re: help me to undertand GMT time!!!!
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PM stands for post meridiem, which means after noon. Thus 12PM is 12 hours after noon, or midnight. No. By your logic, 12:01 PM is 12 hours and one minute after noon. 12:00 PM is noon, because the time switches from AM to PM at noon. Simple, eh? John Hasler is correct. The point is there is NO 12 am or 12 pm. As he That is not what he said. He said that, and I quote, 12 PM is 12 hours after noon, or midnight. This is incorrect. Although it might seen as a logical conclusion to say that 12:00 pm is noon, the argument doesn't hold, because `pm' has a precise definition. It means when any given star has _crossed_ the meridian Which it will have by the time you are able to write either the AM or the PM. Speaking of one precise instant in time is pointless; it is gone in an infinately small amount of time. Trying to confuse the issue, and everyone, by doing this is silly. Nitpicking like that is unnecessary, and you are not correctly stating either my statement or the one to which I was replying.
Re: Debian Kills Disks
Jerry, It would be *very* helpful if you could include the exact error messages that you get, word-for-word, what you were doing when you received them, and how to reproduce. Otherwise, we really have no idea what to do to fix. However, you can wipe out the partition table and master boot record on your disk and restart. WARNING: THIS COMMAND WILL DESTROY EVERYTHING ON YOUR DISK. USE WITH CARE! Also, reboot immediately after using it. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=10 Jerry Human [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Debian Geeks: Before you get upset let me declare that I'm a Linux/Debian newbie geek wannabe. I've only recently (a month ago) became interested in Linux. I've spent most of the time reading everything I could find. I have d/led a few distros to get a feel of Linux. I have two computers, a 486DX50 VLB and a 386DX40. The 486 is running PC DOS 7.0 and Win95, 40x CD and SB 16 Pro that is my main box for doing almost everything including surfing the net. The 386 is my test box that I'm trying to get Linux to run on but it doesn't have a CD or modem. Consequently, I have obtained everything I have for Linux on the Win95 box and transferred to the 386 via floppy. I've made the floppies (Rescue, Drivers, 5 base disks for Debian) following the instructions in the .txt files and Howto's on the 486 in DOS using Rawrite for them and used the disks to install Debian several times as I would learn more and realize I had left something out or wanted to try something different. These seem to be the most stable floppies I have made in Debian. Needless to say, Debian would succeed more times than any of the other distros, including RedHat. Obviously, I spent most of my time working/learning Debian. However, after using a floppy two or three times, it became unusable in any OS. This I attributed to normal attrition, even though the attrition rate was a lot higher than in any of the other OS's. Now the hard drive in the 386 has become unusable. Even Debian is refusing to install properly on it, the last semi successful install attempt resulted in a Read Only partial install that won't boot from the hard disk and a floppy boot won't access the hard disk. I believe that Debian has signed the boot partition in some way to make the disk(s) unusable. In other words, a software flag or partition id was written to the disk in a way that was not completely correct. How can I correct this? Is there a Hex editor I could use to clear the boot sector of the disk so a new install would work correctly? Thanks. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: cdu31a
Hello Andrea,
The kernel sources list the following as possible addresses:
{ 0x340, 0 },/* Standard configuration Sony Interface */
{ 0x1f88,0 },/* Fusion CD-16 */
{ 0x230, 0 },/* SoundBlaster 16 card */
{ 0x360, 0 },/* Secondary standard Sony Interface */
{ 0x320, 0 },/* Secondary standard Sony Interface */
{ 0x330, 0 },/* Secondary standard Sony Interface */
{ 0x634, 0 },/* Sound FX SC400 */
{ 0x654, 0 },/* Sound FX SC400 */
In my experience, I found it often at 0x330 or 0x300, or 0x2c0 (not
all of those are listed.) If all else fails, try each of those and
see if you get it to work. Hint: compile it as a module and specify
it on the command line so you don't have to compile and reboot so many
times.
Andrea Novara [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi to all!
I have an old sony cdu33a 2x cd! The problem is that no docs are provided
about which io_port I should use. The DOS driver don't tell me the values!
The manifacturer of the audio card / controller have retired ( was Reveal )
and all the hints in cdu31a.c don't work!
I'm using kernel 2.2.1 on hamm.
What can I do?
Thanks!!!
Andrea
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Re: XFree86 3.3.3.1 packaged.
Is this built with the Sparc and Alpha patches, so those of us not on
x86 can try it out too?
Thanks,
John
Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
'lo,
If you feel bored this WE or happen to have one of those gfx cards
supported only in the most recents XFree86 releases, you may want to try
my 3.3.3.1 packages.
They're accessible on: http://master.debian.org/~vincent/xfree-3.3.3.1/
Notes:
- Based on the Debian changes from 3.3.2.3a-10 and upstream 3.3.3.1
sources.
- One new binary package produced: xserver-glint; boards supported: GLINT
500TX with IBM RGB526 RAMDAC, GLINT MX with IBM RGB526 and IBM
RGB640 RAMDAC, Permedia with IBM RGB526 RAMDAC and Permedia 2
(classic, 2a, 2v).
- Takes ~1.5h to build on my Celeron 385 ;)
- These are _not_ the 3.3.3.1 official packages. Branden should make
them in a while.
- These packages WorkForMe(tm), but I haven't tested them too much. If you
have problems/questions about them, please report to me directly.
Cordialement,
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Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 09:23:34AM +1300, David Zanetti wrote: That is, until it dselect comes along an upgrades the X servers :( Several times already my 3.3.3 SVGA server has been nuked by dselect, and 3.3.2 doesn't support my TNT board :( This would imply that you're using 3.3.3 debs for X, which are not available yet. I would suggest that you download your own version and stick it in /usr/local/bin, and set /etc/X11/Xserver to use that file. David Zanetti, Unix System Administrator, Information Technology Group Wellington City Council, New Zealand. Phone x3354 or 04 801 3354 The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated. This doesn't make a lot of sense, considering that this list is public with thousands of subscribers and web-based archives mirrored around the world, with news gateways and corresponding archives there.
Re: Goodbye, people!
On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 08:30:35PM -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: Gee, that sounds familiar! ;-) Yes, Linux's learning curve is pretty steep, and you can't just overwhelm the system either (at least I can't!). You're taking the right tack -- you have to relax, plug away, keep trying, and savor every little victory; after, of course, making backup copies of your config files in case you screw something up! You wouldn't believe how many *.conf.good files used to litter my hard drives. ;-) I've been using it for years (and am a developer); I still do that sort of thing :-) There'are always something new. Lately, I've learned a lot about DNS and anti-spam in sendmail. Someday I want to learn enough to hack on the kernel in a proficient manner. Of course, by that time, there will probably be hundreds of new programs just waiting for me to learn about :-)
Re: Slink CDs available
Hi, Will you be making CD images of the other architectures to be carried in slink as well, so those can be tested? Thanks, John On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 02:59:11AM -0500, Johnie Ingram wrote: With the Bug count under 20 now, I figure it's time for some final testing of Slink. For CD beta testers I've put the 2 i386 binary and 2 source images up on a server in Michigan (US), accessible via ftp, http, and rsync: -rw-r--r-- 588021760 1999/02/02 20:17:16 slink1.raw -rw-r--r-- 546574336 1999/02/02 20:20:57 slink2.raw -rw-r--r-- 632743936 1999/02/02 20:25:00 slink3.raw -rw-r--r-- 590200832 1999/02/02 20:29:00 slink4.raw total size is 2357541044 Just the first 2 are necessary to test the install, and if you're lucky you can get by with 1. :-) They're completely unofficial, but made with Steve McIntyre's slink-cd deb, and so should approximate what the final CDs will look like. If you're just testing the 2.1 upgrade, and not the CDs themselves, all you need is the APT deb in /debian/dists/slink/main/upgrade-i386 on any mirror. Put this in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US And then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade. The links for these images are on my site, http://netgod.net/ -- instructions on burning them are at http://cdimage.debian.org/ and in cdrecord docs. Please let me know what problems remain, or if you prefer pre-burned CDR. BTW the vote for the next Debian Project Leader is almost over (17 hours to go) and I'll post the pic of the winner. :-) The nominees are BenC, dark, Knghtbrd, and wichert. See you on IRC. - PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C __ _Debian GNU Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] mm mm / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ www.netgod.net irc.debian.org mm mm / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / m m m / /__| | | | | |_| |World Domination, of course. mm mm \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ And scantily clad females. GO BLUE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [whine] Power down. vs System halted.
On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 02:26:44PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: I belive we now use the POWER_OFF mechanism by default as machines with APM bioses and ATX power supplies actualy do shut off. My Alpha, which has zero APM suport either in the BIOS or in the kernel, also displays that message. There might be a way to tweak it, option to shutdown or something? Jason -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: scsi tape
On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 11:23:26AM -0500, David B. Teague wrote: Hi Debian Users: The question is: can I use SCSI disk drives currently running with an Adaptec 2840 SCSI controller with Bus Logic controller? I'm not quite sure what you're asking here. There's not much point to having two controllers on a single SCSI chain... What about SCSI tapes: can a SCSI tape made on a tape drive with one controller be read with the same tape drive run with another (SCSI) controller? (Reason suggests the affirmative, but reason unfortunately does not always prevail.) Yes. Questions restated: I need to move the data from the old machine to the new one. I'd like to be able to use the tape drive and some of the SCSI disks with a Bus Logic or other SCSI controller. Will I be able to use the disks unchanged on the machines with a Bus Logic SCSI controller? What about reading the tape drives? You'll be able to use them provided that the new machine uses the same type of SCSI. If, for instance, then new machine is UW SCSI and the old one is Fast SCSI, you'll need an adaptor device to hook up the old device (unless your card also has a Fast SCSI connector).
Re: function keys
I'm not so sure there's really a problem. As long as xterm is generating codes that match the xterm terminfo spec, and the console is generating codes that match the linux terminfo spec, what's the problem? On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 08:49:42PM -0600, dan wrote: Currently, the function keys in the virtual consoles generate different escape sequences then in environments such as xterm and screen. I've only tested keymaps under i386/qwerty, but I suspect this applies to others as well. Is there any logic behind the currently assigned escape sequences? Are they sup posed to emulate a certain terminal behavior? Right now, they don't really make sense. My suggestion is to make function keys consistant across as many tty interfaces as possible. I think the best way to do this is to change the files /usr/share/keymaps/*/*/* so that they are consistant on all ttys. I would help with this, but I want to know what people think first. Configuration for other programs could also be modified, but I don't know as much about how to do that. -- Dan Gohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: What owns a piece of postgresql...
Two ways to find this: 1. grep or zgrep through Contents-i386, located in dists/unstable/ or dists/stable; 2. use dpkg -S libpq.so.1 John On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 06:21:47PM -0600, Chris Frost wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What package own /usr/lib/postgresql/dumpall/6.3/psql, libpq.so.1 and libpq.so.2? Reason being, I have the posgresql from hamm and am trying to upgrade to the version in potato (which has python support) and to dump my databases I need these files. tia, Chris - Visit Me At http://www.frostnet.advicom.net/chris/ - -- Public PGP Key: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject retrieve pgpkey or visit http://www.frostnet.advicom.net/chris/pgp_key.phtml -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNq0KnuEzIlbKpewXEQIX6gCg8WXCpEaugkDnEMKb3cCQpfMSHTQAoIpm Jd156xJShRwA9hxoZfEsIT4l =UIU1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: What owns a piece of postgresql...
Ahh, no ideas then. Try writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to reach the maintainer; he may be able to help, or it may be a bug in the package. -- John On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 07:18:23PM -0600, Chris Frost wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, John Goerzen wrote: Two ways to find this: 1. grep or zgrep through Contents-i386, located in dists/unstable/ or dists/stable; 2. use dpkg -S libpq.so.1 Guess I should have been more specific, but I'm trying to find the package that provides these files so that I can install it. Anyway, I downloaded Contents-i386 from both slink and potato and neither had the files in the correct places that I need (/usr/lib/postgresql/dumpall/6.3/). Any ideas? Chris - Visit Me At http://www.frostnet.advicom.net/chris/ - -- Public PGP Key: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject retrieve pgpkey or visit http://www.frostnet.advicom.net/chris/pgp_key.phtml -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNq0X4+EzIlbKpewXEQKxDACg4wQNqSPFhweQYbjNZCIMbbVAi4kAniD4 uh1YY1yB85ScoCbB9kZo3WSE =Bijq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Web-based email for Debian
There are quite a few. If you go to freshmeat.net and search for the words web mail, you'll find about a dozen. -- John On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 10:35:39AM -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: I'm running a slink system w/Exim as my MTA. Does anyone know of a web-based e-mail system that would fit into a Debian system nicely? -- Regards,| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a . | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 Randy | bit operating system originally coded for ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | a 4 bit microprocessor written by a 2 bit http://www.golgotha.net | company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: **IMPORTANT** Slink sendmail and libdb2
Remco van de Meent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 08:35:35AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: : Would it be possible for the sendmailconfig to update these databases? : It wouldn't be that hard, I think. Also, how about updating the defailts : so that they are stored in /etc/mail instead of /etc? They default to /etc/mail, except for aliases.db, which should be in /etc (Debian Policy, 4.5). I know what policy says, but this is not how it works. mailertable, etc. are in /etc and not /etc/mail. Because of the different db-structures you can use (hash, btree, etc.), I'd say don't let an automatic install program update those databases. It should even be able to process customized sendmail.cf's in order to work without failure. I personally wouldn't want any program changing those databases itself... It's a pain to manually have to run a long makemap command each time something is updated. There has GOT to be a better way... -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capital Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org
Re: **IMPORTANT** Slink sendmail and libdb2
Would it be possible for the sendmailconfig to update these databases? It wouldn't be that hard, I think. Also, how about updating the defailts so that they are stored in /etc/mail instead of /etc? John Richard A Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last update of sendmail switched from libdb to libdb2, as recommended by the sendmail group (and requested by a sparc user). Unfortunately, this change means that sendmail databases (alias, users, etc.) *must* be rebuilt. I'll update the package to provide this warning - but those who have already synched to Slink should do this ASAP! Sorry for the confusion, -- Rick Nelson -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capital Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org
Re: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes: It's a kernel issue. On 32 bit platforms time_t will probably always be restricted to 32 bits, but on 64 bits systems such as the alpha time_t is 64 bits .. and by 2038 I expect everyone to be running at least a 64 bit machine. BZZT, wrong answer! First, some people already need to go far into the future for forecasting applications. Secondly, even if desktop machines no longer are 32-bit, by that time Linux certainly will run on minituarized devices that may not be 64-bit. Let us not repeat the same mistake others are making! In fact in a few years everyone using the Intel platform will probably have switched to a mercoed or its successor which is 64 bit. This is not due out for several more years, and considering that old XTs from the early 80s will still be around at that time (they'll be 20 years old at least), it's not at all a stretch to say that the 32-bit machines from the late 1990s or early 2000s will still be around in 2038. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capital Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org
Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I disagree with this point of view. Yes, Debian wishes to support newcomers to Linux. That is why we have debian-user. We have a responsibility to those new users to train them to be free users. They can only do that if they become familiar with the ins and outs of the Debian Way. But by actually submitting a bug report in the first place, they're already helping. The maintainer can either fix it or open a dialogue up with the submitter if more information is needed. The fact is -- if we require research beforehand, there will be FAR fewer reports. I for one will not submit any (or very few at least) bug reports if this happens. This will end up hurting Debian seriously. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suggesting, even strongly, that it is proper proceedure when submitting a bug, to research the bug reporting system first, and provide useful information second, doesn't seem onerous to me, and has several practical uses for the bug submitter, as well as the maintainer. I disagree. When I am doing an upgrade, I may notice a number of bugs. Perhaps I can log on to a terminal next to the computer I'm upgrading and submit bug reports. However, I do not have time to check the bug logs and webpages (which may be out-of-date, remember). Sometimes (often, actually, for me) the Internet connection is slow. I use Debian at work and I'm not paid to research the Debian bug logs when, for instance, X suddenly breaks because KDE has removed the /etc/X11/Xsession file. (Still haven't received a reply to this one yet, and it's in hamm!) Merging bugs is not that hard, but it also doesn't provide any bookkeeping advantages to the maintainer. The bugs still get reported in the problems report separately. Nags still come separately. This requires that the maintainer keep records of which bugs have been merged. Well then we ought to fix those reporting mechanisms. I am only suggesting that we make clear that the socially correct way to report a bug involves adequate research on the part of the bug reporter. We can SUGGEST this as before. However, I will be Very Upset if people start complaining at me because I filed bug reports without checking the webpages first after a particularly frustrating upgrade experience that took three times longer than it should have because people delete me config files or fail to put a read at the end of their postinst and important information goes whizzing by the screen. This requirement provides additional service to the user at the same time that it provides the maintainer with more chance to fix the problem. I feel that I'm already helping out the project by reporting a bug. I often don't have time to figure out the problem and end up deleting packages if they're non-essential -- or doing some quick hack to fix it. BTW, while we're on this topic, I am ASTOUNDED at the number of packages that display messages in postinst but don't prompt for Enter keypress -- the messages then scroll by. Even though policy requires a prompt. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
OK, I don't mind that as long as the bug is left open (with severity downgraded, of course). John Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote: Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the /etc/init.d/lpd restart section. Why would this make a difference? Wouldn't this signify a race condition? Worse, on a heavily-loaded system, wouldn't 2 seconds be too little a wait for whatever needs to be done? Yes, it is a race condition. My guess is that lpr doesn't die before the next lpr tries to start up. The second lpr sees the first and fails to start, and then the first finally dies. There are much better solutions than a 2 second wait, and it will probably fail on a heavily-loaded system. However, it's enough to get the bug out of the release critical list, and to take a deap breath before working on the correct solution. OK? Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: privately...) My system information: lpr 5.9-26 Fixed: ii lpr 5.9-27 BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the /etc/init.d/lpd restart section. Why would this make a difference? Wouldn't this signify a race condition? Worse, on a heavily-loaded system, wouldn't 2 seconds be too little a wait for whatever needs to be done? HTH, Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e2defrag-problem
First, I cannot verify this, but I am almost certain that you should UNMOUNT before running any defrag program! Secondly, there is no need for defrag on ext2fs systems unless you have a REALLY weird setup. John Wolfgang Gernot Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im having a problem with the e2defrag-program (debian2.0). I always get the following message: mother# e2defrag -Vr /dev/sda1 e2defrag 0.73 RCS version $Id: defrag.c,v 1.4 1997/08/17 14:23:57 linux Exp $ e2defrag: Error seeking to end of filesystem mother# The debian-system itself works well... :( Here are my mounted drives: mother# df Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/sda12478138 1824826 525196 78% / /dev/sda41019856 711792 308064 70% /msdos/c Anyone had luck with defrag? Gernot -- - Gernot Bauer Salzburger Kredit- und Wechsel-Bank AG eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Office) Makartplatz 3, 5020 Salzburg Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Austria/Europe Phone: ++43-662-8684-364 The answer is yes, me. Fax: ++43-662-8684-23 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd writers linux
Just make sure you get SCSI. I highly reccommend the cdrecord program. Take a look at the docs that come with it for a list of suported devices. Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm interested in buying a internal/ide cd writer. I'd like to be able to (in linux) write audio cds, direct read, speed isn't too important, and I'm not sure about worm vs rewritable. What is the difference (other than being able to erase, rewite, etc.)? Any recommendations? Thanks -Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there any program like ICQ ? Thanks ! ;)
Stuart Krivis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 26 May 1998, John Goerzen wrote: There are several Linux solutions that provide an extended subset of the ICQ functionality. You may want to take a look at ytalk and IRC. Or you could use ICQ for Java. I've used it with Solaris x86 and RedHat 5. It seems to be pretty stable. I have experienced a few too many crashes. It is also a memory hog (12 meg). Which is much more than the, what, 3k that it takes inetd to listen for ytalk requests... :-) However, it is indeed true that ICQ can be better for mobile users. In the end, it's up to the user, of course. I prefer ytalk but others prefer ICQ and it is indeed available and usable under Linux. -- John GoerzenLinux, Unix programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there any program like ICQ ? Thanks ! ;)
Nuno, There are several Linux solutions that provide an extended subset of the ICQ functionality. You may want to take a look at ytalk and IRC. Nuno Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John GoerzenLinux, Unix programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTML ToC generators?
Hi, I have a large collection of webpages and I am looking for something to generate a Table of Contents (eg, site index). I don't need a search tool -- something that just spits out HTML will be fine. Any ideas where to find such a thing? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xemacs 20.3 slow load
That doesn't sound right. You should have something like: 127.0.0.1 zeropoint.your.domain zeropoint 127.0.0.1 localhost (Also try flipping those lines around.) Also, what does hostname and hostname -f report? Gerald Wann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am experimenting with xemacs 20.3 on debian linux 2.0.29 machine w/ AMD K6 200MHz / 32M RAM. It takes xemacs about a full minute to load in xwindows. Anyone else experience such a prolonged load wait, or is it just me ( 20.3 ;-)? Usually the problem with *really* slow emacs loading is that your hostname is set incorrectly. It will wait a long time trying to resolve a bad hostname. Add your hostname to /etc/hosts to fix. Hi - I've tried the following (single) lines in my etc/hosts file - 127.0.0.1 localhost OR 127.0.0.1 zeropoint // where zeropoint is what is reported by hostname OR 127.0.0.1 zeropoint localhost and noticed very little if any improvement in xemacs load speed? I'm probably making a silly mistake, but it's not immediately obvious to me what it is. Ideas? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xemacs 20.3 slow load
On my P166 (64 meg RAM) it takes about 20 seconds. Strange, on a BSDi P133 it takes about 5-10 seconds and that machine has less memory. I suspect our Xemacs is loading a bunch of unneeded stuff but I don't know for sure. You might want to mail our xemacs maintainer about this. Gerald Wann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi - I am experimenting with xemacs 20.3 on debian linux 2.0.29 machine w/ AMD K6 200MHz / 32M RAM. It takes xemacs about a full minute to load in xwindows. Anyone else experience such a prolonged load wait, or is it just me ( 20.3 ;-)? Thanks Jerry -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian max file size is 1GB instead of 2GB?
Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry if my previous post on this made it out as well. It seems that on Debian, the maximum single file size on ext2fs is 1GB and not 2GB. Can someone confirm this, and suggest how to fix the problem, if possible? I am getting bigger than 1 gig: garfield /scratch$ cat /dev/zero test cat: write error: No space left on device garfield /scratch$ ls -l total 1433633 drwx-- 4 jgoerzen jgoerzen 1024 Jan 19 13:19 jgoerzen drwxr-xr-x 2 root root12288 Dec 14 11:26 lost+found -rw-rw-r-- 1 jgoerzen jgoerzen 1462290432 Jan 26 20:46 test Kernel 2.0.33, libc6. This is well over a gig. John -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MWave Modem
The real reason is that the MWave (and similar modems like the WinModem) are not really real modems. They offload the stuff that the modem should be doing itself on to the computer's CPU. This is bad. First, it eats CPU time like crazy. Secondly, it requires special OS-specific drivers to work. In all, a bad design and something to be avoided. Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tommy knocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an IBM computer with debian installed and it uses an internal Mwave modem. I can't seem so write a script that will initialize the modem. Does anybody have a script that will work with this modem that I can look at? I have bad news I have bad news. The answer is almost certainly: buy a pcmcia modem. AFAIK, there is no support for MWave devices in linux, mainly because IBM/(what is their name ?) won't provide documentaion without lots of legal/economic strings. -- Stephen --- Normality is a statistical illusion. -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian max file size is 1GB instead of 2GB?
Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think it is the kernel (unless, it's due to a specific configuration option in the kernel?) I tried it on 2.0.33 and 2.1.78, same result on both: lilu# ls -l xxx -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1073741824 Jan 25 15:36 xxx lili# uname -a Linux lili.eecs.umich.edu 2.1.78 #1 Wed Jan 21 06:44:08 EST 1998 i686 unknown Does anyone have any ideas on what the issue is and how to fix the problem for those of us stuck at the 1GB limit? I would suggest mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the linux-kernel mailing list served by majordomo). They might be able to help. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Q] 56K US Robotics?
Vladislav, You can use a chatscript of this type: ABORTBUSY ABORTNO CARRIER ABORTVOICE ABORTNO DIALTONE ABORTNO DIAL TONE ATZ OK ATDT123-4567 CONNECT \c ^M Then you will get the connect speed logged to /var/log/messages, although you may have to use the -v option to chat to make it log that. John Vladislav Papayan x285 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Would anyone know how to verify that I am connecting to Internet at 56K. I run Debian hamm + 2.1.78 kernel. I use X-ISP package to connect (it displays 31.200 connected speed). I know that when I use the same modem connecting to the same ISP only running WinNT -- it connects at 56K. I made sure that setserial is used with speed_vhi options when setting up my serial ports. My pppd is 2.3 patch level two. What else do I need to do to get it going at 56K. And may be I am connecting at 56K -- but how do I verify it for sure (my modem is US Robatics external). Thanks in advance, Vladislav -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: best Linux video card
Pere, I got an ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV 8MEG (Mach64/3D RageII+) card for about $210. It is quite awesome, and lightning fast. It supports my 21 monitor quite nicely, and is well-supported under Windows as well. The TV output doesn't work under Linux, but that's not what I got it for anyway :-) Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! What's the best Linux/Debian (Win95/NT too) compatible video card available for $100-225? Thanks in advance for your help! Pere. Salutacions, Pere __o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:343/108.91 - _`\;_ http://casal.upc.es/~pere/ PGP key available --- (_)/ (_)Lo importante es el concepto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Alternatives to NIS?
At my location, we are dealing with a large Unix network composed of machines from multiple vendors -- Debian, RedHat, Sun, DEC, etc. We are moving largely in the direction of Debian and some of the legacy systems will be dropped within a few years anyway (due to Y2K nonconformity). We have approximately 2500 users that can pick any of a few dozen machines to log in to. Currently, we use NIS to propogate passwd information (login, password, UID, etc.) I am aware that NIS is widely considered to be insecure. I am wondering what alternatives Debian might support that would provide a more secure solution than NIS. Regards, John Goerzen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Video capture boards and Linux
Does Debian/Linux support any video capture boards? If so, what software is needed and what boards are supported? Thanks, John -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fat32 in installation vfat module?
Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was under the impression that the base install doesn't come with full PPP support (it says this during installation). After the base install (from floppy), you still are unable to dialup. If you could dialup, that would, of course, solve everything. It does now come with PPP support. You just have to know how to configure it. (Which really isn't all that hard) -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fat32 in installation vfat module?
Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm interested in submitting a 'Beginner's Debian Installation Guide' of some sort. I have about 80% of the framework of one completed, but am concerned about the lack of fat32 support. As is stands, if someone has a new computer formatted in fat32, they would have to format a fat16 partition to download the packages into. the vfat module in the Not correct. In no case do you have to download the packages onto a non-Debian partition. dselect can automatically grab the packages you need on-the-fly via PPP, Ethernet, Token Ring, or whatever network system you have. There is no need to download them beforehand; in fact, doing so will probably be much more difficult. installation process won't allow a fat32 partition to be mounted and the base-install doesn't have full ppp support for dialup. I'm afraid I'm no programmer, I'm a user trying to learn as much as I can and help out, if possible. I don't know how difficult it would be to make the installation vfat module fat32 compliant. I would, however, like to submit a document for review. Should I submit one based on the current situation, or could the module be 'patched'? I would be very appreciative to hear any opinion on this, and how such a document might be received. TIA for your consideration :) Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MZI, Inc. v-206.430.3726 707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420 Renton, WA 98055 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CD recording question
Unfortunately not. This being an audio CD and not a data one, that doesn't work :-( Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking for a good program to read audio from an audio CD and store it in a file suitable for later recording. I am aware of the cdda2wav program, which will generate WAV files that then need to be converted back to cdr format by a program like sox. But surely there has to be an easier and better way to do it. Converting to wavs and back seems rather cumbersome. As a wild guess, does `dd if=/dev/cd-device of=raw.cd.image', or something along those lines, work? -- Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail will receive free 32MB core files! -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
CD recording question
Hi, I am looking for a good program to read audio from an audio CD and store it in a file suitable for later recording. I am aware of the cdda2wav program, which will generate WAV files that then need to be converted back to cdr format by a program like sox. But surely there has to be an easier and better way to do it. Converting to wavs and back seems rather cumbersome. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks! John -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Find out how to avoid all those pesky crashes, lockups, application errors, and slow applications at http://www.debian.org -- Debian can replace Windows 95 with a much more stable operating system. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CDR drive replacement.
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have used Philips CDRs exclusively and have not been satisfied. For the usual reasons, I am replacing my current CDR and want something that will last a while. I can get an HP SureStore CD-Writer 6020 for a reasonable price. I am curious if anyone has had any first hand experience with this device? Is it encouraging? I would consider other options if they fall in the catagory of cheap (cost effective) and dependable, while at the same time available quickly through mail order using a credit card. I have the HP SureStore 6020i drive. As its model number suggests, it is 6x read, 2x write. For writing, I use the cdrecord program. It works flawlessly, even writing multi-session CDs and it even works from a master on an IDE drive. cwrite also works with this drive, BUT... it won't do multisession, and it is much, much more system-intensive than cdrecord is. cdwrite barely works with an IDE drive at 1x record speed; cdrecord easily works with my IDE drive at 2x record speed. For reading, you need to do a tad bit more up-front. It will read normal CDs without any problem. However, you must patch the kernel to get the drive to read multi-session CDs. Once the kernel is so patched, however, it is able to read multi-session CDs without any difficulty at all. (Actually, this patch is included in 2.1.x and maybe even in 2.0.30 but I know it isn't in 2.0.29.) I have had good luck with this drive with all sorts of various media. I have not experienced any problems with data loss on any media, as sometimes occurs with CDR drives. I have used both the genuine HP media and the cheap Pioneer media without difficulty. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Booting to SCSI
Hey everyone! Simple (hopefully) question. I've got an IDE drive on an Tyan motherboard with an Award BIOS. I recently went out and bought a Seagate Cheetah drive on a Symbios Logic (aka NCR) 53c875 host adapter (an AWESOME combination, BTW g) How do I make the system boot from the SCSI drive instead of the IDE drive? Yes, I know I can make the LILO in the MBR of the IDE drive point to the Linux partition on the SCSI drive, and I have done this; but I would perfer a better solution. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: A quickie on telnet
You might try the netcat program, it is specifically designed for this and is (yipee!) a Debian package. Mike Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very simply, I'm trying to telnet to a site and get some data from a script. In HPUX, I would do this: echo Alinetobesent | telnet an.address.com 1234 And it would happily telnet to the machine and echo the command, getting me the results I wanted. This doesn't seem to work under any of the shells I could find installed in DEBIAN, or any odd variation I could come up with. Any ideas, or do I have to re-write in C using sockets (bleah)? --Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Notice: You may purchase the right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) for the fee of $500 (USD) per message. Billing can be either pre-arranged or can occur automatically after the reception of a spam. Failure to pay will be treated in accordance to US Code, title 47, sec. 227, which allows unsolicited e-mail to be punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, per violation. Sending spam to me without payment constitutes unauthorized access to my mail daemon, which is in violation of federal law. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive
Simon Karpen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which WD drives have you had good luck with? I have yet to see a recent one last more than a year... I have several (3) old Caviar drives. One is a 170 meg and the other two are 540 meg. One is six years old; the other, probably about 5; and the third is about the same. All worked fine for at least the first 4-5 years of their life even though they were powered up 24/7/365. The 170 developed some bad sectors about 1/2 year ago; the younger 540 meg had the same problem at about the same time. The 5-year-old 540 meg is still going strong. Considering that they were all cheap IDE drives, originally installed in a poorly-ventilated case, it is not bad. John --Simon On 10 Oct 1997, John Goerzen wrote: I've had nothing but good luck with Seagate and Western Digital. Conner, I agree has horrible problems. Simon Karpen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right now, my personal system has a Micropolis Stinger (5400rpm 4.3GB, Ultra SCSI), and hasn't had any problems. The drive is a bit noisy, but seems to be very solid. I've never had any real problems with Quantum drives, but I can say to stay away from any form of Conner/Seagate/Western Digital drives. The failure rates are *horrible*. I've also heard many good things about the recent IBM drives. Simon Karpen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fixing Unix is easier than living with NT. --Larry McVoy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Notice: You may purchase the right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) for the fee of $500 (USD) per message. Billing can be either pre-arranged or can occur automatically after the reception of a spam. Failure to pay will be treated in accordance to US Code, title 47, sec. 227, which allows unsolicited e-mail to be punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, per violation. Sending spam to me without payment constitutes unauthorized access to my mail daemon, which is in violation of federal law. Simon Karpen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Ben Franklin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Notice: You may purchase the right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) for the fee of $500 (USD) per message. Billing can be either pre-arranged or can occur automatically after the reception of a spam. Failure to pay will be treated in accordance to US Code, title 47, sec. 227, which allows unsolicited e-mail to be punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, per violation. Sending spam to me without payment constitutes unauthorized access to my mail daemon, which is in violation of federal law. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive
I've had nothing but good luck with Seagate and Western Digital. Conner, I agree has horrible problems. Simon Karpen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right now, my personal system has a Micropolis Stinger (5400rpm 4.3GB, Ultra SCSI), and hasn't had any problems. The drive is a bit noisy, but seems to be very solid. I've never had any real problems with Quantum drives, but I can say to stay away from any form of Conner/Seagate/Western Digital drives. The failure rates are *horrible*. I've also heard many good things about the recent IBM drives. Simon Karpen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fixing Unix is easier than living with NT. --Larry McVoy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Notice: You may purchase the right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) for the fee of $500 (USD) per message. Billing can be either pre-arranged or can occur automatically after the reception of a spam. Failure to pay will be treated in accordance to US Code, title 47, sec. 227, which allows unsolicited e-mail to be punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, per violation. Sending spam to me without payment constitutes unauthorized access to my mail daemon, which is in violation of federal law. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: UW SCSI Card
I have had good luck with the Symbios Logic (NCR) 8751SP card. Use the Linux driver that was ported from FreeBSD (it is in the standard kernel config menu). Luis Francisco Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I am considering to buy one of these beasts and had thought about AHA 2940UW. I was wondering if people had experience with those and/or if there is another suggestiong (Buslogic?) Thanks, Luis. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Notice: You may purchase the right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) for the fee of $500 (USD) per message. Billing can be either pre-arranged or can occur automatically after the reception of a spam. Failure to pay will be treated in accordance to US Code, title 47, sec. 227, which allows unsolicited e-mail to be punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, per violation. Sending spam to me without payment constitutes unauthorized access to my mail daemon, which is in violation of federal law. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape ?
Michael Legart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi ! Please use the netscape installer package from Debian. It will integrate netscape in your Debian GNU/Linux Box. Erhm... where do I get that package ? As far as I can see, isn't it uncludet in the distribution. Yes it is. Type /netscape and press Enter and it will take you right to it. Regards, badpixel of bad sector michael legart -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW icq uin - 2565176 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Notice: You may purchase the right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) for the fee of $500 (USD) per message. Billing can be either pre-arranged or can occur automatically after the reception of a spam. Failure to pay will be treated in accordance to US Code, title 47, sec. 227, which allows unsolicited e-mail to be punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, per violation. Sending spam to me without payment constitutes unauthorized access to my mail daemon, which is in violation of federal law. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: integrate X-programms
Darin D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: finally I have now Debian installed after putting a simple / to the question were is my top level located. Now I wonder why the X-Server doesn't run (3D Virge) although I installed the particiular server, just it runs in vga16 mode. How can I configure X? (xconfig or make xconfig doesn't work) Make sure you install the xbase package as well, as it contains a program xbase-config which will make your XF86Config file. (i think it is called that - someone may need to correct me here) There are two configuration programs: * xf86config, a text-based config program * XF86Setup, a graphical config program Sometimes one will work when the other one didn't. As well how can I integrate all X-programms and games on the X-screen? There is currently just the desktop and a shell for input. I still haven't figured out how to make custom menus yet. I do know that it involves editing your .Xresources or .Xsession files, something like that anyways. No, you edit your window manager rc file -- .fvwm2rc for instance. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Notice: You may purchase the right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) for the fee of $500 (USD) per message. Billing can be either pre-arranged or can occur automatically after the reception of a spam. Failure to pay will be treated in accordance to US Code, title 47, sec. 227, which allows unsolicited e-mail to be punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, per violation. Sending spam to me without payment constitutes unauthorized access to my mail daemon, which is in violation of federal law. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X newreader
I like GNUS from XEMACS. Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone know of a good X based news reader? Does not have to be a Debian package. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Notice: You may purchase the right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) for the fee of $500 (USD) per message. Billing can be either pre-arranged or can occur automatically after the reception of a spam. Failure to pay will be treated in accordance to US Code, title 47, sec. 227, which allows unsolicited e-mail to be punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, per violation. Sending spam to me without payment constitutes unauthorized access to my mail daemon, which is in violation of federal law. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Common Lisp] I'm working on the clisp package...
How does this differ from gcl (GNU Common Lisp)? Thanks, John Goerzen Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The new version of clisp was released today from it's upstream source. I'm going to package it for debian, probably this weekend. If you use clisp (or are likely to use it), please let me know if you think the following modules are appropriate: CLX (common lisp X-interface) STDWIN (standard windowing toolkit) READLINE (i'm using this instead of newreadline because it's been better tested) Any opinions would be appreciated. The windowing toolkits, in particular, seem to increase the size of the binary significantly, but I'm assuming that if you're doing a lot of lisp development you're probably not overly concerned with disk efficiency anyway... Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.debian.org. --+-- Notice: You may purchase the right to send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) for the fee of $500 (USD) per message. Billing can be either pre-arranged or can occur automatically after the reception of a spam. Failure to pay will be treated in accordance to US Code, title 47, sec. 227, which allows unsolicited e-mail to be punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, per violation. Sending spam to me without payment constitutes unauthorized access to my mail daemon, which is in violation of federal law. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Anyone has seen this before?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eloy A. Paris) writes: Jun 19 11:36:11 zeus kernel: Current error sr0b:00: sense key Medium Error Jun 19 11:36:11 zeus kernel: Additional sense indicates L-ec uncorrectable error Jun 19 11:36:11 zeus kernel: CD-ROM I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 660128 What's happening here? Is my NCR83C510 SCSI adapter going to die or I need to trash the CD I was reading and the hard disk with bad sectors? I don't think your SCSI controller is the problem. Most likely hard drive problems. Check that you have the latest driver and give the FreeBSD driver a shot. Make sure you have no cabling problems (long cable runs, etc). -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape bug: Newbies using root
It is stated very clearly in documentation all over that you should run as root as little as possible... Besides, it is common sense. When I first taught myself Unix, this was impressed on me very clearly. The Linux NAG and SAG mention it, I'm sure, as do some various HOWTOs. BG Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree that nobody shoudl be using root. But for newbies its hard having to learn Unix adn system admin at the same time. By using root, you avoid all the 'Permission denied' messages. BG -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Quotas AMD
Did you enable quota support in the kernel on both the client *AND* the NFS server? I work with a Debian machine with just such a setup, and there are no real problems there Felix Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anybody know how I can configure my network in order to let the users know their disk quotas? The problem is that the quota command doesn't show the quota values, it only shows them when the user is logged on the server. I'm using the AMD to mount the home directories by NFS on the clients. I've read all of documents related to quotas, but with no success... Also, I've noted that when I mount the home directories by hand (without AMD), using NFS of course, the users can see their disk quotas normaly, but I really don't know why. Please help-me. :-) Thanks in advance, Felix Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: setting switching screen densities
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: stealth vram (#124), which is an S3. I've set it for 432 under 8 bits, and 32 under 16 (1mb vram). But it seems to insist that the higher density modes don't exist. It's startup messages (the ones that are left) annnouce (--) there is no mode definition mamed 1024x768 (--) removing mode 1024X768: from list of valid modes then again for 800x600. What am I doing wrong? Look: 1024x768 is not the same as 1024X768. easiest way is to edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file. Mine looks like: Better: edit XF86Config and specify a default color depth. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: setting switching screen densities
E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This looks like something similar to what I experienced with XF86Setup. It goes like this: running XF86Setup, the program determines the modes with the best refresh rates for my monitor/video card combination. Seems OK, but it does so _for_256_colors_. When I then switch to 16 bit color, the modes in XF86Config with resolution higher than 800x600 get deleted, because the video card cannot supply these refresh rates. Solution: pretend that your monitor cannot handle high vertical refresh rates in XF86Setup, and the defined modes will have low enough refresh rates for the video card to cope with. The older xf86config program used to provide a lot more modes apparently. Has anyone noticed this before? Yes, although I had not identified the cause like you have. [CC to the X maintainer] -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BIG NetScape Bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (fwd)
Yes, that is true. This is precisely why this is not such a big deal for us, although it may be for people running Windows... Jim Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 19 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: Let's not over-react, please. This bug *only* allows people to see files that the user running Netscape has access to, and *only* if it already knows the names of these files. On a Debian 1.3 machine, which uses shadow passwords, essentially the only thing that would be of use for people would be files in your home directory. And since there are no predictable patterns for these files, it would be difficult to construct a web page that would cause serious harm. NT and Win95 users are at risk since the OS is typically loaded into the default directories and files such as those containing passwords are susceptible to being accessed. Recommendation from NS is to turn off Java Script and set the warn of sending secure data option until the patched versions are released. Cheers, Jim -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BIG NetScape Bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (fwd)
George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And once Communicator for Linux is officially released, we won't have to worry about it any more. And exactly how is the release of Communitcator going to fix the systems running 3.01? There's this thing called an Upgrade, you know -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xlib3.3 server probs
Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Brian Skreeg wrote: Only the user that runs the xserver (startx) can run apps on it any attempt to run an app by another user is refused. eg below; Yes I've noticed this problem as well. Two solutions. You can allow any user to run apps by executing: xhosts + Ick, ick, ouch! NEVER do that! The second solution is to add specific users to your .Xauthority file using the xauth program. See man pages for details. This solves the problem for me. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: modem hang up
Your ISP is probably the one that is doing this, not Linux. A.D.Y. Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello all, I am running PPP connecting to my ISP. However, after connecting, if I leave the connection idle for about half an hour, the modem will hang up itself which I do not really want. Can somebody point out to me how to turn off this feature? Thanks for help in advance ! Anthony -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X11 Problems
This is a known problem, I believe. Check the info under the disks-i386 directory -- I think there is a file in there that mentions this. FYI, you should try this, as root on the console: shadowconfig off shadowconfig on Richard Harran. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have just installed the X11 graphical windows program, at the same time as upgrading from debian 1.2 - 1.3. It all worked fine at the time, and I selected to have X11 coming up automatically on start-up. However, I have just rebooted my machine, and after the usual linux start-up messages, it came up with the login window in X11. I entered 'root' as user name, and my password (I need to make linux bootable from hard-drive), but kept getting login incorrect. (I installed shadow passwords when upgrading to 1.3, if this has any effect). Is there a way I can get linux to boot-up without starting X11 (preferably without resorting to the rescue disk), and/or change my password? Is the problem that you can't login to X11 as root? Cheers Rich. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: modem hang up
Many ISPs have policy against such a thing, so be careful before you do it. Udjat -Whoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ping you host once in a while. ping -i 500 xyz.com /dev/null see ping man page. On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, A.D.Y. Cheng wrote: Hello all, I am running PPP connecting to my ISP. However, after connecting, if I leave the connection idle for about half an hour, the modem will hang up itself which I do not really want. Can somebody point out to me how to turn off this feature? Thanks for help in advance ! Anthony -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Help! I'm modeming... and I can't hang up!!! ,, / ( _(-)- .' ^^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Bitburn Access. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BIG NetScape Bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (fwd)
Let's not over-react, please. This bug *only* allows people to see files that the user running Netscape has access to, and *only* if it already knows the names of these files. On a Debian 1.3 machine, which uses shadow passwords, essentially the only thing that would be of use for people would be files in your home directory. And since there are no predictable patterns for these files, it would be difficult to construct a web page that would cause serious harm. George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Better take this SERIOUSLY folks, it is a VERY big bug ... major security hole. It allows a server to see EVERYTHING on the client filesystem. George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:06:45 -0500 From: Francisco Benavides [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BIG NetScape Bug1 Hi, A HUGE flaw was uncovered in the new NetScape, for more details: http://cnnfn.com/digitaljam/9706/12/netscape_pkg/ Bye/Francisco :) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Will ATI 3D Rage chips work with XFree86?
FYI, I am running an ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV 8meg card (3D Rage II-based) and it works very nicely (although the TV output doesn't yet work under Linux.) Raja R Harinath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Tempsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 15 May, Rick Macdonald wrote: Re: R. Chris Ross wrote: Re: I wondered if the D3 Rage chip set boards would work with Re: XFree86. They are supposed to be quite hot and someone offered to Re: trade me a Wincharge for one even up. Re: Re: Maybe I should grab the new 3D GPT once the chipset is supported in Re: XFree? If my memories are correctl then the 3D Rage _is_ supported in XFree 3.2 and the 3D Rage II in XFree 3.2A... From the XFree86[tm] 3.3 Release Notes: 3.11 Mach64 server o Support for 3D Rage II based Mach64 cards is included. o Various problems with support for some revisions of CT, VT and GT chipsets have been fixed. o It is strongly recommended that all users with CT, VT, GT and 3D Rage II based Mach64 cards upgrade to the 3.3 release due to the problems that were fixed. 3.2A is not available as a .deb package, but I've seen several reports of people simply replacing the Mach64 Xserver binary from 3.2 with the one from 3.2A. Haven't tried this myself, but did do a similar thing under Slackware last fall (3.1.2-3.1.2F) so it'd seem reasonable... XFree86 3.3 should be available in `unstable' real soon now, as soon as Mark Eichin feels it's right. - Hari -- Raja R Harinath -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] When all else fails, read the instructions. -- Cahn's Axiom Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing. -- Roy L Ash -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BIG NetScape Bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (fwd)
George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My concern was for someone running Netscape as root. This should never occur. People should not run Netscape as root. (In a nutshell: Java The thought of running unknown programs as root should send a shiver down your spine...) And thirdly, since the linux versions that have been released are unsupported, it is possible that there will not be patched releases of the earlier versions. This concenrs me if the exploit is made public after the patched release of the supported versions. There have already been exploits made public on Bugtraq, I believe. And once Communicator for Linux is officially released, we won't have to worry about it any more. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian over NFS
Hello, I am wondering how to set up systems in this way: * A Debian server, with a large hard disk, with a fairly full install of Debian. * Multiple Debian client machines, with small hard disks (often 100 meg or less). I'd like to mount, at minimum, /usr from the Debian server. /usr should be mounted over NFS in read-only mode. My questions are: * How do I go about installing packages on the client? I would assume that I install packages in the normal way on the server, but that wouldn't update the client's /etc directory. However, I do not want to try to install on the client since it would fail if it tries to write anything in /usr. * How do I remove packages? Again, if I remove from the server, there may still be files left in the client's /etc and /var directories. * What is the suggested method for going about this? Thanks, John Goerzen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Non-interactive modem hangup
Just killing pppd will do it unless your modem isn't set up properly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know a simple command or tool to hang up the modem? Just hang it up, not stay connected to the tty and await more commands. What I'm after is something simple I can put into a script for sudo to kill the ppp daemon and also hang up the line, freeing /dev/ttyS1 immediately (rather than waiting for the ISP to idle out the line and hang up on me). The first part I've got figured out -- start-stop-daemon --stop --verbose --exec /usr/sbin/pppd But there has to be an easier way to hang up the modem than writing a chat script or something like that. Does anyone have any ideas? -- G. Branden Robinson Purdue University [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Non-interactive modem hangup
Look for an option something like: * Drop carrier on DTR low * Disconnect on DTR low If I remember correctly, it is an ATDx command, but I'm not completely sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: Just killing pppd will do it unless your modem isn't set up properly. Then my modem isn't set up properly. I got a private email mentioning something about how the modem should automatically hangup once DTR is dropped, which happens if modem is given as an option to pppd. It is in my case, so the problem lies with my modem. I've got a Hayes Accura 144B + FAX, so once I dig up the manual I'll come back to the list with my solution. -- G. Branden Robinson Purdue University [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: making 16bpp the default in X
Douglas L Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do I need to do to make 16 bpp the default in X? You can edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config and remove all the other modes. If you are running xdm, you can edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and add -bpp 16 to the command line. If you are using startx or xinit, you can set up an alias. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xdm???
Jonathan B. Leffert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I installed the xbase package from unstable/ as well as a lot of other X packages. I have X working fine, but I cannot seem to get xdm to work. When I do a /etc/init.d/xdm start as root, xdm loads as a process, but the X login prompt never appears. Anyone know how to get this to work? Did you check /var/log/xdm-errors? That is the first place to check in the event of trouble. Secondly, did you try to start xdm when you already had an X session running? If so, that is a mistake. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian install on multiple machines
Hello, What is the easiest way to install an identical set of packages on multiple machines? That is, at install time, I want it to select the same packages to install, rather than manually having to select packages on each machine. Thanks, John Goerzen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Who's using Debian?
Hi, I thought it might be a neat idea to make a webpage listing some of the people that use Debian and what they use it for. So, if you are using Debian, reply to this e-mail (privately to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to the whole list). Let me know what you are using it for, and if you have a web address, give me that too. I'll add you to my page and add a link to your site as well. I know there are people out there using Debian for some impressive things Help us spread the word about what Debian can do! BTW, the page is at http://happy.cs.twsu.edu/~jgoerzen/Debian/users.html I'll probably also make a mirror of it somewhere... -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: cdwrite / hybrid cd's
You might check into the cdrecord program. Also, there is a list at pixar.com (cdwrite or cdrecord list or some such) that may be of use. Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any way to make a hybrid CD on Linux? I guess cdwrite just writes an image file onto the CD, so the question is if it is possible to create that hybrid (mac / iso) file? Steve -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
But that still doesn't solve the problem of viewing the Unix print queue from within Windows. That works with regular lpr, but not lprng. On Mar 5, Craig Sanders wrote: but that's not necessary at all. with samba, printers listed in /etc/printcap appear on the Win3/Win95/etc machines printer list (this is the default for the debian package - you can turn it off if you like) - Win users can select it and print to it just like any other printer. Here's an excerpt of relevant parts from my /etc/smb.conf file which works on my network. [global] printing = lprng load printers = yes [printers] comment = All Printers browseable = no path = /tmp printable = yes public = no writable = no create mode = 0700 Once you've set this up, you should be able to see the linux box's printer(s) in Network Neighbourhood on the Win95 machines. Can't remember what the Win3 equivalent is, but the linux printers show up on Win3 too. I have samba, lprng, and magic-filter installed. it works brilliantly. craig FFrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 4 18:11:53 1997 Return-Path: jgoerzen Received: from mail.midusa.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by complete.org (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA10400 for jgoerzen; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:11:52 -0600 Received: from master.debian.org by services.midusa.net via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] id RAA03490; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:22:41 -0600 Received: (qmail 10545 invoked by uid 888); 4 Mar 1997 23:34:44 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 10542 invoked by uid 888); 4 Mar 1997 23:34:44 - Delivered-To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Received: (qmail 10540 invoked from network); 4 Mar 1997 23:34:42 - Received: from hur-s0.fuller.edu (HELO waterf.org) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 1997 23:34:42 - Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] (debian) by waterf.org with smtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0w23ax-0001tY-00 (Debian); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:25:47 -0800 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:25:46 -0800 (PST) From: Christoph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Debian Development debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Hylafax In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by complete.org id SAA10400 There is a hylafax package in experimental packaged by me needing work. Look through the archive of debian-devel. Someone else wanted to take it on. On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Nils Rennebarth wrote: There had been several people mentioning they'd make a package from it. Who finally took it now? Reason: I do need a central faxserver here, and might contribute some work do testing... Nils -- \ /| Nils Rennebarth --* WINDOWS 42 *-- | Schillerstr. 61 / \| 37083 Göttingen | ++49-551-71626 Micro$oft's final answer | http://www.nus.de/~nils --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- Please always CC me when replying to posts on mailing lists. rom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 4 18:11:54 1997 Return-Path: jgoerzen Received: from mail.midusa.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by complete.org (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA10403 for jgoerzen; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:11:54 -0600 Received: from master.debian.org by services.midusa.net via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for jgoerzen id RAA02059; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:17:11 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:17:11 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: Using SOCKS server
Did you try passive mode? On Mar 4, Matt Lawrence wrote: Is there any way to run dselect via ftp through a SOCKS server? I have T1 access from work, but I'm behind a firewall. -- Matt -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: /etc/alternatives -- Why?
On Mar 4, Scott Stanley wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Dominik Kubla wrote: It seems like anyone who is running their system with /usr as a CD-ROM is probably not looking for options or configurability. They just want a basic system to play with and try before stepping all the way into an installation. It would seem like the creater of the CD should just place a ``basic'' system on the CD without alot of different flavors of commands. But you are leaving out one very important situation: NFS. There are a good number of people that have /usr mounted over NFS in read-only mode. Most people don't have /etc mounted over NFS. This allows each individual machine to be configured as the admin likes it, without messing up configurations on other machines. Nifty, eh? The /etc/alternatives seems like it just adds one more file to the configuration which might increase the confusion of someone trying to learn the system. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: 56k baud modem (x2)
I don't know why not. There is nothing different about the modem - computer interface, AFAIK. On Mar 2, Gregory Vence wrote: Is the 56kb USRupgrade compatible with linux? I tired of 14.4. :) Thanx -- Greg. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
I had tried the first item you suggested before reverting back to normal lpr, I do recall. I also seem to remember that in some of Samba's documentation, the lprng option was mentioned, while in other areas where the options for printing were listed, lprng was not mentioned. I do not recall if I tried the second thing, but lpq, lprm, and lpr all worked fine from the local box, and lpr worked from Win95. If somebody could print, I would think that they would also have permission to view the queue. On Mar 3, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, John Goerzen wrote: i've got it running on my system, using lprng magicfilter with . samba no problems. it works. Not in my experience. I also tried lprng, magicfilter, and samba. I found the same nonprintable option and turned it off. The Win95 box appeared to print correctly, BUT it could NOT view the print queue, delete sent jobs, etc. With lpr instead of lprng, the Win95 box could do all of that like it is supposed to be able to. a couple of things that might help: 1. check your /etc/smb.conf. Does it have a line like: printing = lprng in the [global] section see man pages for samba and smb.conf - samba has specific support for lprng. 2. check your /etc/lpd.perms - you may not have set up the permissions correctly to allow the win95 box to see the queue and/or delete jobs. craig -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
John Goerzen writes: This is *not* an acceptable fix. Other packages, for isntance Samba, will **NOT** work with lprng. Why won't samba not work with it? Please file an appropriate bug against the samba package. Because Samba depends on the output formats of the lp* commands, in particular, lpq. It parses the output and converts it to the format suitable for displaying to Windows users. Since LPRNG's lpq is different that LPR's lpq output, samba cannot parse it correctly. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
On Mar 2, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Scott Stanley wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, John Goerzen wrote: This is *not* an acceptable fix. Other packages, for isntance Samba, will **NOT** work with lprng. This is nice to know actually, it's completely untrue. samba works very well with lprng. i've got it running on my system, using lprng magicfilter with samba. no problems. it works. Not in my experience. I also tried lprng, magicfilter, and samba. I found the same nonprintable option and turned it off. The Win95 box appeared to print correctly, BUT it could NOT view the print queue, delete sent jobs, etc. With lpr instead of lprng, the Win95 box could do all of that like it is supposed to be able to. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: /etc/alternatives -- Why?
What is the /etc/alternatives directory for. I mean, what's the philosophy behind it? Thanks Paul Serice It lets people have two programs with the same name on the system at once. Examples: nvi, vim, etc: install as vi xemacs, emacs: both install as emacs -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?
Yes. And it also supports long filenames on those partitions. Hi, Having benefited greatly from this list before, I do not doubt for a moment that someone will know the answer to this: Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem? thanks in advance. -alex -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: Live filesystem on CDs
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm, just an observation here. (Not necessarily directed at you, Mike.) Are *all* packages that are compressed with gzip compressed with gzip -9? Including all .orig.tar.gz files, .diff.gz, etc.? If not, this may be a way to save some space for now. The gzip call for these files is done by dpkg-source, so the gzip options are determined by dpkg-source and not by the developer. Right, this is kinda what I'm getting at. dpkg-source, debstd, etc. should all be using -9. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: lprm says Permission denied (fwd)
This is *not* an acceptable fix. Other packages, for isntance Samba, will **NOT** work with lprng. On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much Deleted. The real fix seems to go to lprng. That's the official position of the maintainer as well, as stated in a msg. to this list last year. I'll do it as soon as I have a chance. If the recommended fix (by the package maintainer even) is to switch from lpr to lprng, shouldn't lpr be switched out of Standard and lprng moved from Optional into Standard? I just happen to be having some problems setting up lpr as well. I think I'll switch to lprng before spending any more time. Scott Carlos -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, CoB [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Emenaker) wrote: EVERY person I've talked to who has tried getting dial-up ppp going on Debian has approached it like a heavyweight fighter preparing for a title fight. They spend a few days just mentally preparing for the ordeal. Then, Funny, I have found Debian's PPP easier to set up than any other Linux. I have had no troubles of this kind. In fact, the only problems I've ever had have been traced to my ISP. I editted /etc/ppp.chatscript to properly log into the dial-in server. Since /etc/ppp.options_out made reference to /dev/modem, I went to /dev and make a symlink from modem to ttyS0. (I know I could have edited the Bad idea. Replace the entry in the options file with ttyS0, do NOT make a modem symlink. This could, in fact, be responsible for all the rest of your problems. Reason is: modems use UUCP-style locking. Other programs will see that /dev/modem is locked, but NOT that /dev/ttyS0 is locked, and will use that device without asking any questions at all! The system started up... started pppd and the modem began dialing. I watched the whole show by periodically doing tail /var/log/messages. Chatscript It's possible you missed something then... Try using tail -f /var/log/messages. of the connection, apparently). So, I tried pinging remoteIP and not a single packet came back (although I could see them getting sent out on the modem by watching the lights). Pinging localIP went fine, but didn't use the modem. Pinging anywhere on the server's network other than localIP. This is perhaps indicitive of a problem with your ISP. It is strange that it goes out but does not return. Which *seems* okay. I was a little concerned about not seeing a default in there, but route add default remoteIP metric 1, but that didn't cause anything new to show up in route -n. Lastly, after a couple minutes, the connection will drop, with /var/log/messages reporting: Oops, seems that you forgot to put defaultroute keyword in your PPP configuration! Although, since you specified -n, route WON'T show a default route!! So it could be (and perhaps is likely) that the 0.0.0.0 entry is indeed your default. Also, I tried dialing into a Cisco terminal server and all I got was Could not determine local IP address. Again, I don't have this problem with Win95. Just because it works with Windows 95 does *not* mean that it works correctly. My ISP has a Cisco term server and it works with Windows 95 but doesn't negotiate the remote IP address with *ANY* other OS -- OS/2, Linux, FreeBSD, even some other Windows socket implementations. It appears that Win95 is a lot more forgiving than standards would indicate that it should be. So, I have a few questions: 1 - Why is PPP this screwed up? Even if the ppp_on_boot thing *did* work, It isn't. why is there no mention of it in the instal program? There are a lot of people out there who install Debian on their home systems and need to use ppp in order to add/update packages via ftp. Shouldn't a little more effort be made to make this a little simpler? I don't know of ANYONE who looks forward to attempting ppp on Linux without a sense of dread. It was easy for me. Easy for others I know. I don't know why you are making it so hard on yourself :-) If you want a better solution, why not use diald? It will automatically bring up the modem when there is a connection attempt, will handle disconnects due to idle, etc. 2 - How can I fix it in the short term? Does anyone know what I can do to be able to see the remote network? Well, without seeing your exact configs, it's hard to say. If you'd like to mail me (privately, not to the list) your ppp configs and relevant portions of /var/log/messages, I'll take a look and see if I can spot anything. BTW, isn't the appropriate file to edit /etc/ppp.options_out? 3 - I think I'm resigned to the fact that this figgin' ppp catastrophe isn't going to get fixed unless I do it myself. I'm tenatively planning on writing a set of scripts and ppp.options files to allow people to easily configure their system as a dial-in server or as a home machine that dials into an ISP. Does anyone want to offer suggestions, help code, or help test? This is what the existing system accomplishes, no? --- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: cygnus win32 cross-compiler
Hmm, worked for me. I think I found the DLL sitting around in
/usr/lib/win32 or something. (Poke in the /var/lib/dpkg/info/win32*list
files to find it.)
On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Douglas L Stewart wrote:
I'm trying to get a hello world program running on a Win95 box. I have
the following packages:
bash$ dpkg -l | grep win32
ii win32binutils 2.6.cygnus.960 Compilation Utilities for the Win32
Cross-Co
ii win32gcc2.7.2.cygnus.9 GCC Configured as Win32 Cross-Compiler
ii win32libs 0.0.14-1 Win32 Cross-Compiler Libraries
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any documentation that comes with
these packages. I tried compiling a test program.
#include stdio.h
void main()
{
printf(Hello World!\n);
}
I compiled it like this:
i386-unknown-cygwin32-gcc hello.c -o hello.exe
I tried running it on the Win95 machine and it said it needed CYGWIN.DLL.
I searched around on the net and found a copy of it, but it said the
program needed to be relinked.
Am I compiling this correctly? Where should I get the correct version of
the CYGWIN.DLL?
Douglas L Stewart
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Re: Live filesystem on CDs
On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Mike Neuffer wrote: Personally, I would go for seperate i386 and m68k CD's, both with source. It doesn't fit (i386 + source) on one CD. However we had a number of orders for 68k CDs and i386+68k binaries fit on one CD at the moment. Hmm, just an observation here. (Not necessarily directed at you, Mike.) Are *all* packages that are compressed with gzip compressed with gzip -9? Including all .orig.tar.gz files, .diff.gz, etc.? If not, this may be a way to save some space for now. John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some thoughts for Debian.
If you think Debian has a tremendous amount of software, you should try sunsite.unc.edu or tsx-11.mit.edu sometime. Look how much Debian has compared to Slackware or RedHat, though. All of it integrated with the Debian package manager. I'm seriously thinking of going back to slackware. I've searched ftp.debian.org for bash 2.0, the 2.1.x kernel, and other recent software, Ummm, why would you expect an operating system to come with an EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE kernel? If Debian would ship with 2.1.x, I'd really dislike it. But the kernel-package works fine with 2.1.x. Just download it. Or you can do it like you always did with Slackware -- the hard way. but they're nowhere to be found. I just found out that my Debian system compiled Linux 2.1.21 with the 2.0.27 kernel headers because someone You probably didn't use the kernel-package then. If you want to do it manually, fine, but like any other system, you need to make sure you know what you're doing. Let the package system work for you -- don't be constantly trying to subvert it. thought it was a good idea to fuck with the Linux kernel and libc. I have no idea whose idea it was split every library into two (or more!) packages, either. This is ridiculous. Under Slackware, when I want There is no reason for somebody that just needs to run a program that requires, for insance, Tcl, Tk, SLANG, XView, etc. to have the full development binaries. It is a waste of disk space. Besides, how hard is it to hit + twice instead of once in dselect if you want the developer's version of the package? S-LANG, I go to S-LANG home page and ftp it, compile it, and install it. Debian gives me several packages to choose from, which, it turns out, are all required. Then I find out that the guy who compiled it did something weird. Lynx 2.6 doesn't compile with it. So, I go to the S-LANG home page and get the real source and compile it. Lynx compiles fine. Why was I recompiling Lynx? Because the guy who compiled that screwed it up! My God, I've recompiled half the Debian packages, it seems like. All this effort could have gone towards making my old Slackware system more usuable than my current Debian system! Please elaborate here. Lynx works fine on my machine. So does SLANG, SLRN (uses Slang), most (also uses slang), etc. I don't know. Maybe I'm just not in the correct mindset for Debian. I like to run the latest stuff. Debian offers, it seems, only the oldest, most stable software. I just don't see why anyone would run Linux and Really. Please take another look. One of the main reasons I picked Debian instead of RedHat or Slackware was that Debian had the most current software. When I installed it, Debian had kernel 2.0 while Slackware was stuck at 1.2.13. Today, Redhat has 2.0.18, Slackware 2.0.0, and Debian has 2.0.27. (Actually, this was current as of December.) Gee, Slackware really is on the bleeding edge sarcasm not want to compile software, be on bleeding edge, and actually administer a UNIX system... I feel like I'm running Windows 95. Unconfigurable software with horrid defaults, plain bad planning, changing industry standards without notice, etc. You make lots of accusations without mentioning any specific instance. Unless you elaborate with examples, you can hardly expect anyone to take you seriously. What software isn't configurable??? Debian has Sendmail available just like anyone else. You can make your own cf file just like anyone else. You are familiar with the concept of the /etc directory, aren't you??? -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
