Re: Dual boot - first time using UEFI

2022-05-03 Thread Felix Miata
Hans composed on 2022-05-02 12:44 (UTC+0200): ... > When I got it running, I tried to install grub again onto the MBR, which was > successfull. But now appeared a blue screen, with choices: "Wait 10 seconds - > go on - Restart - Do not ask any more" (similar, is from my remembers). ... > Can

Re: Dual boot - first time using UEFI

2022-05-02 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
nother EFI partition, shall I use it?" (or > similar, it is from my remembers). > > Thanky for making things clear. > > Best > > Hans > Hello Hans, I think this has also been covered in another thread here. If Windows is the _only_ system on a disk, it hijacks

Dual boot - first time using UEFI

2022-05-02 Thread Hans
Hi folks, yesterday I installed debian bullseye besides a windows system. As UEFI could not switched off, I used gparted to make the windows partition smaller. Then used an usb-stick and installed bullseye as usual. However, the installer discovered UEFI and respected this, but atthe first

Re : Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-04 Thread k6dedijon
22 11:08:56 +0200 (CEST) Objet: Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI Bonjour, j'ai installé Debian (Bullseye) en dual boot EFI sur un PC W10. Aucun problème, sauf que je n'arrive pas à avoir le menu Grub au démarrage. Systématiquement le PC boote sur Windows. J'ai essayé de modifier l'ordre de

[Résolu] Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread Thierry
Un grand merci, Didier. Ta solution fonctionne et règle mon problème. Faut croire que mon UEFI est buggé. Entre temps, j'avais trouvé une solution de contournement en appuyant au boot sur la touche F9 (varie sans doute selon les PC) qui me dirige sur le menu de démarrage UEFI. Le 03/04/2022

Re: Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread didier gaumet
Le dimanche 03 avril 2022 à 14:08 +0200, nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit : > > Par curiosité, et avec lilo (que j’utilise toujours), on fait comment > ? > > nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial on fait pas :-) Lilo n'est plus maintenu et n'était pas compatible avec l'UEFI, simplement avec

Re : Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread nicolas . patrois
Le 03/04/2022 12:57:40, didier gaumet a écrit : > Sur un PC récent avec un UEFI correct (pas buggé), il faut > généralement > paramétrer dans l'UEFI quel chargeur de démarrage utiliser par défaut, > sinon bien que plusieurs chargeurs soient installés, celui de windows > reste celui par défaut. >

Re: Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread Ro Bou
Bonjour, Mofifier le "BootOrder" avec l'option "-o" de efibootmgr peut-être. Bonne journée Le 2022-04-03 à 05 h 08, Thierry a écrit : Bonjour, j'ai installé Debian (Bullseye) en dual boot EFI sur un PC W10. Aucun problème, sauf que je n'arrive pas à avoir le men

Re: Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread didier gaumet
Sur un PC récent avec un UEFI correct (pas buggé), il faut généralement paramétrer dans l'UEFI quel chargeur de démarrage utiliser par défaut, sinon bien que plusieurs chargeurs soient installés, celui de windows reste celui par défaut. Sur certains UEFI buggés, la présence d'une entré nommé

Re: Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread F. Dubois
Le 03/04/2022 à 11:08, Thierry a écrit : Bonjour, j'ai installé Debian (Bullseye) en dual boot EFI sur un PC W10. Aucun problème, sauf que je n'arrive pas à avoir le menu Grub au démarrage. Systématiquement le PC boote sur Windows. Je me doute que ce n'est pas un problème Debian, mais

Re: Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread steve
Alors peut-être le réinstaller: os-prober update-grub grub-install /dev/sda (mettre le bon disk ici…) Le 03-04-2022, à 12:02:58 +0200, Thierry a écrit : Merci, mais çà ne fait que modifier le menu Grub. Encore faut-il qu'il s'affiche au boot. C'est là mon problème.

Re: Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread Thierry
Merci, mais çà ne fait que modifier le menu Grub. Encore faut-il qu'il s'affiche au boot. C'est là mon problème. Le 03/04/2022 à 11:37, steve a écrit : Salut, As-tu lancé en root : update-grub Normalement ça devrait suffire. Bon dimanche

Re: Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread steve
Salut, As-tu lancé en root : update-grub Normalement ça devrait suffire. Bon dimanche

Pb démarrage Debian en dual boot EFI

2022-04-03 Thread Thierry
Bonjour, j'ai installé Debian (Bullseye) en dual boot EFI sur un PC W10. Aucun problème, sauf que je n'arrive pas à avoir le menu Grub au démarrage. Systématiquement le PC boote sur Windows. J'ai essayé de modifier l'ordre de démarrage sous Windows avec bcdedit ou sous Debian avec

Re: Broken UEFI Dual boot : Debian 12 + encrypted Debian 11

2021-11-23 Thread David Wright
just installed Debian 12 without encryption in a small > > partition. Unfortunately, I can not boot Debian 11 anymore, > > grub-efi only shows the Debian 12 install. > > > > Any help to make both install boot would greatly appreciated. > > Being able to boot Debian 1

Re: Broken UEFI Dual boot : Debian 12 + encrypted Debian 11

2021-11-23 Thread Yvan Masson
Debian 11 anymore, grub-efi only shows the Debian 12 install. Any help to make both install boot would greatly appreciated. Being able to boot Debian 11 only would also be great if the dual boot is not possible. I found first an answer for the second question : the wiki (https://wiki.debian.org

Broken UEFI Dual boot : Debian 12 + encrypted Debian 11

2021-11-23 Thread Yvan Masson
12 install. Any help to make both install boot would greatly appreciated. Being able to boot Debian 11 only would also be great if the dual boot is not possible. Below is a reworked `lsblk` output: sda |-sda1 -> a data partition |-sda2 -> D12 / `-sda3 -> D12 swap sdb |-sdb1 -> E

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-22 Thread lists . debian
:) Je vais maintenant paramétrer le montage automatique au démarrage et je dois partir bien pour mon dual boot :) Merci beaucoup de votre aide Le 2021-11-10 13:43, didier gaumet a écrit : > > > > Le mercredi 10 novembre 2021 à 13:14 +0100, lists.deb...@netc.eu a > écrit : >

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-10 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 10 novembre 2021 à 13:14 +0100, lists.deb...@netc.eu a écrit : > Bonjour Didier, >   > Je viens de tester les plugins : > J'ai copié les plugins systcomp (ntfs-plugin-8017.so) et dedup > (ntfs-plugin-8013.so) dans le dossier /usr/lib64/ntfs-3g/ (j'ai > du créer le dossier

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-10 Thread lists . debian
Bonjour Didier, Je viens de tester les plugins : J'ai copié les plugins systcomp (ntfs-plugin-8017.so) et dedup (ntfs-plugin-8013.so) dans le dossier /usr/lib64/ntfs-3g/ (j'ai du créer le dossier ntfs-3g). Après avoir redémarré mon PC j'ai toujours le même erreur. Je pense que je vais

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-09 Thread didier gaumet
Pour ne pas te laisser dans la nature, j'ai parcouru le README d'1 des 3 plugins: les fichiers zip contiennent les sources et les plugins binaires (extension *.so*). Ceux-ci sont à copier dans /usr/lib64/ntfs- 3g/ dans le cas d'un OS linux 64 bits

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-09 Thread didier gaumet
oujours les mêmes messages 'unsupported reparse > point'). >   > Par contre j'ai une autre question : >   > En profitant de ce nouveau dual boot sur mon PC, je me suis décidé de > faire un upgrade et changer ma SSD, en remplaçant mon SSD de 128GO > pour une nouvelle de 512GO (et ajo

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-09 Thread lists . debian
Windows. J'ai donc désactivé fastboot, et ensuite j'ai désactivé à nouveau l’hibernation. Malheureusement il n'y a pas eu de changements dans le côté Debian (toujours les mêmes messages 'unsupported reparse point'). Par contre j'ai une autre question : En profitant de ce nouveau dual boot sur mon PC

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-08 Thread didier gaumet
Le lundi 08 novembre 2021 à 11:06 +0100, lists.deb...@netc.eu a écrit : >   > Merci Didier, >   > Petite précision, tu parles de fastboot ou hibernation ? > Je pose la question car j'ai déjà fait la manip dans powershell, mais > je pense que avec la commande "powercfg -hibernate off", mais je

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-08 Thread lists . debian
Merci Didier, Petite précision, tu parles de fastboot ou hibernation ? Je pose la question car j'ai déjà fait la manip dans powershell, mais je pense que avec la commande "powercfg -hibernate off", mais je pense qu'il est pareil. Sinon je n'ai pas la main maintenant, mais si je me souviens

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-08 Thread didier gaumet
> En vrac: - tes ennuis *pourraient* provenir du fonctionneement par défaut des Windows récents: quand tu éteins/redémarre ton PC, par défaut, Windows cherche à minimiser le temps de démarrage au prochain boot. C'est l'option Fastboot et il est préférable de la désactiver car ça a une incidence

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-08 Thread lists . debian
Bonjour Basile, Didier, Je suis désolé pour la réponse tardive, mais le travail a été dur la semaine dernière. Entre-temps, j'ai pu faire quelques tests et j'ai des nouveaux éléments à partager. Voici les sorties de quelques commandes que j'ai pu exécuter : Après avoir monté le HDD avec "sudo

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-02 Thread didier . gaumet
Le mardi 02 novembre 2021 à 10:34 +0100, Marcelo Malzyner a écrit : > Bonjour Didier, > > Merci de votre retour. > > Pour clarifier un peu mon soucis, j'ai bien parlé de keepass car > c'est comme ça que j'ai trouvé le problème. OK, Keepass2, pas KeepassX ou KeepassXC > Mon soucis est plutôt

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-02 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
disques : * SSD 128GB (C:\) où j'ai Windows 10, et maintenant Debian 11.1 (KDE) en dual boot * un disque dur D:\ 2TB où j'ai tous mes fichiers Que donnent, sous Debian, en étant root (donc avec /usr/bin/sudo), chacune des commandes suivantes: /usr/bin/dmesg /usr/bin/df -h

Re: Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-02 Thread didier gaumet
Avertissement: je n'utilise pas Keepass/KeepassX/KeepassXC Quelques trucs en vrac: - de ce que je comprends tu souhaites utiliser un gestionnaire de mots de passe sous Windows et Linux avec la même base de données. C'est bien le même outil que tu utilises sous Windows et Linux? KeepassXC,

Problème pour accèder au disque D en dual boot avec Windows 10

2021-11-02 Thread lists . debian
maintenant Debian 11.1 (KDE) en dual boot un disque dur D:\ 2TB où j'ai tous mes fichiers Dans un premier temps tout semble bien fonctionner, j'arrive à ouvrir Dolphin et je trouve tous mes fichiers : Mes fichiers Debian sur sa partition dans C:\ Les fichiers présents dans D:\ dans la rubrique

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot -- SOLVED

2021-08-29 Thread Intense Red
> does it automatically boot to Debian with Windows listed in your GRUB menu? Yes, exactly. It works as it should: Upon boot the GRUB menu is presented, with Debian, its emergency option, and the option of booting into Windows. Thus, all is right in the world. :-) That was done by

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot -- SOLVED

2021-08-29 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 8/28/21 1:07 PM, Intense Red wrote: The problem was that Win10 would constantly overwrite the MBR and blow away GRUB which forced the computer to boot straight into Windows. The solution is to go into Windows, open a command prompt/shell as the Windows administrator and run:

Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot -- SOLVED

2021-08-28 Thread Intense Red
The problem was that Win10 would constantly overwrite the MBR and blow away GRUB which forced the computer to boot straight into Windows. The solution is to go into Windows, open a command prompt/shell as the Windows administrator and run: "bcedit /set {bootmgr} path

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 27 Aug 2021 at 21:35:38 (-0500), Intense Red wrote: >On a new HP Laptop pre-installed with Win10 Home edition installed on an > SSD. In the laptop's BIOS Secure Boot was turned off. > >A fresh copy of Debian 11 was installed into the machine's 1TB HD. After > reboot, GRUB comes

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sat, Aug 28, 2021, 6:06 AM Joe wrote: > On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:14:28 +0300 > ellanios82 wrote: > > > On 28/8/21 Intense Red: > > > How can Windows be lobotomized > > > > > >- maybe Install VirtualBox, & ONLY run windows inside Linux > > > > > > The Home version won't be licensed for use

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread ellanios82
On 28/8/21 Intense Red: How can Windows be lobotomized - List been real Quiet : No word from the Amazing Polly .  rgds .

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread ellanios82
On 28/8/21 1:06 μ.μ., Joe wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:14:28 +0300 ellanios82 wrote: On 28/8/21 Intense Red: How can Windows be lobotomized   - maybe Install VirtualBox, & ONLY run windows inside Linux The Home version won't be licensed for use in a VM, and may be engineered not to

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread Joe
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:14:28 +0300 ellanios82 wrote: > On 28/8/21 Intense Red: > > How can Windows be lobotomized > > >   - maybe Install VirtualBox, & ONLY run windows inside Linux > > The Home version won't be licensed for use in a VM, and may be engineered not to work at all in one.

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread ellanios82
On 28/8/21 Intense Red: How can Windows be lobotomized   - maybe Install VirtualBox, & ONLY run windows inside Linux .  rgds .

Re: Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-28 Thread Joe
Win10 netbook, at some point the installer said it had found another OS, did I want dual-boot? I didn't actually need Windows, but I said 'yes' to keep the option open, and stretch just did it. No problem. The BIOS was UEFI and didn't have a secure boot disable, but it still just worked. Mind you, wh

Debian 11 and Win10 dual boot

2021-08-27 Thread Intense Red
On a new HP Laptop pre-installed with Win10 Home edition installed on an SSD. In the laptop's BIOS Secure Boot was turned off. A fresh copy of Debian 11 was installed into the machine's 1TB HD. After reboot, GRUB comes up normally and Linux works fine. But once Windows is chosen from

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-06 Thread Anssi Saari
"Juan R. de Silva" writes: > There is a difference in suggested by your link approach and my > requirements. I have reasons to avoid re-installation of my existing > Windows 10. The suggested procedure based on fresh install of Windows 10 > from from the media created by Microsoft Media

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-06 Thread Juan R. de Silva
problem? I intend to do this on my > desktop system at some point. I thought I'd just get a new SSD and make > that my boot drive and clone the partitions over but after a little > googling it seems the conversion isn't that difficult. > > For example, these instructions cover the conve

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-06 Thread Anssi Saari
new SSD and make that my boot drive and clone the partitions over but after a little googling it seems the conversion isn't that difficult. For example, these instructions cover the conversion of a Ubuntu + Windows 10 dual boot system: https://www.rojtberg.net/1032/converting-a-ubuntu-and-w

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-04 Thread Juan R. de Silva
On Sun, 04 Jul 2021 17:23:33 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 7/4/21 4:22 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I dual boot Debian 10 with Windows 10 from MBR in Legacy mode on my 6 >> years old Dell M4800 workstation. The BIOS supports both Legacy and &

Re: Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-04 Thread David Christensen
On 7/4/21 4:22 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: Hi folks, I dual boot Debian 10 with Windows 10 from MBR in Legacy mode on my 6 years old Dell M4800 workstation. The BIOS supports both Legacy and UEFI modes. With upcoming Windows 11 I am compelled to switch to UEFI mode. Dell Precision M4800

Moving dual boot Win10 & Debian 10 system from Legacy to UEFI

2021-07-04 Thread Juan R. de Silva
Hi folks, I dual boot Debian 10 with Windows 10 from MBR in Legacy mode on my 6 years old Dell M4800 workstation. The BIOS supports both Legacy and UEFI modes. With upcoming Windows 11 I am compelled to switch to UEFI mode. I know how to switch stand alone Windows 10 or stand alone Linux from

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-14 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:19 PM Charles Curley < charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:03:20 -0500 > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X > > 10.11 (El Capitan). > > How old? The current version of Mac OS is

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-14 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 12:35 PM Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Kenneth Parker (2020-02-13 18:03:20) > > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X > > 10.11 (El Capitan). It currently has a single 300G HFS Plus (Journaled) > > Partition, with lots of free space.

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Felix Miata
Jonas Smedegaard composed on 2020-02-13 18:35 (UTC+0100): > Debian (and Linux in general) supports read-write access to HFS+ > partitions, but it is unreliable. I would expect it to be difficult to > setup and the result would be unreliable (either because you would end > up depending on the

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:28:27 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > I didn't ask for my benefit, I asked for your benefit. I will guess > that you have vetted your hardware on this list. Sorry, that should be, "... I asked for the OP's benefit. I will guess that he will vet his hardware on this list."

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 20:59:07 +0100 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running > > > OS X 10.11 (El Capitan). > > > > How old? The current version of Mac OS is Catalina, 10.15.3. This > > on a Macbook Air made in mid-2012. ( -> About this >

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Charles Curley (2020-02-13 19:56:31) > On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:03:20 -0500 > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS > > X 10.11 (El Capitan). > > How old? The current version of Mac OS is Catalina, 10.15.3. This on a > Macbook

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:03:20 -0500 Kenneth Parker wrote: > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X > 10.11 (El Capitan). How old? The current version of Mac OS is Catalina, 10.15.3. This on a Macbook Air made in mid-2012. ( -> About this Mac) -- Does anybody

Re: Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Kenneth Parker (2020-02-13 18:03:20) > I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X > 10.11 (El Capitan). It currently has a single 300G HFS Plus (Journaled) > Partition, with lots of free space. > > He wants to keep OS X, and use Buster (or Sid, leading to the

Mac El Capitan Dual Boot

2020-02-13 Thread Kenneth Parker
I am helping a friend install Debian on an older MacBook, running OS X 10.11 (El Capitan). It currently has a single 300G HFS Plus (Journaled) Partition, with lots of free space. He wants to keep OS X, and use Buster (or Sid, leading to the next Stable Release). He wants to shrink the Mac

Re: (solved) Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-14 Thread Beco
Hello guys, As I promised, here a more detailed solution, with the steps I really used: The problem: * You have a Windows 10 UEFI and a Linux Legacy boot. They both work, but to choose what to boot you need to change the BIOS option each time. Possible solutions discussed in the thread: 1.

(solved) Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-10 Thread Beco
Hello all, Thank you very much for all this thread and discussion. Let me get back to you. On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 18:26, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Dear Pascal, > > If Windows boots in EFI mode : > Mount the EFI partition on /boot/efi. > Install grub-efi-amd64. > Boot some Linux media in EFI

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-10-08, Joe wrote: > > But I'm pretty sure that any pre-installed Windows, and very few people > now install it themselves, will be a UEFI installation, which cannot be > changed to boot in legacy mode, nor vice-versa. > >From what I'm understanding you're batting a thousand here, Joe.

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-08 Thread Joe
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 23:29:09 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 07/10/2019 à 09:42, Joe a écrit : > > On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 23:26:32 +0200 > > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > >> Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : > >>> > >>> Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one > >>>

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 07/10/2019 à 09:42, Joe a écrit : On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 23:26:32 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one you want, you need to enter the BIOS, change legacy to UEFI, and vice-versa, then you can

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-07 Thread sp007
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:45:37 -0300 Beco wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have this laptop problem to solve: the original windows 10 is kept, > shrunk partition to 1TB, originally cryptographied (but now normal). > The rest was given to Linux, Debian 10: 800GB root and 8.2GB swap. > > Now the system can

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-07 Thread Joe
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 23:26:32 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : > > > > Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one > > you want, you need to enter the BIOS, change legacy to UEFI, and > > vice-versa, then you can boot. > > Would you mind

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-06 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one you want, you need to enter the BIOS, change legacy to UEFI, and vice-versa, then you can boot. Would you mind telling which systems boots in EFI mode and which one boots in legacy mode ?

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-06 Thread Joe
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:45:37 -0300 Beco wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have this laptop problem to solve: the original windows 10 is kept, > shrunk partition to 1TB, originally cryptographied (but now normal). > The rest was given to Linux, Debian 10: 800GB root and 8.2GB swap. > > Now the system can

Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-06 Thread Beco
Hi guys, I have this laptop problem to solve: the original windows 10 is kept, shrunk partition to 1TB, originally cryptographied (but now normal). The rest was given to Linux, Debian 10: 800GB root and 8.2GB swap. Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one you want, you

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/06/2019 à 21:45, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : On 06/11/2019 02:20 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: IMO installing GRUB can be desirable for two reasons. 1) Obviously, it allows the drive to boot by itself so that you can move it into another machine, or remove the current boot drive, or

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-11 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 06/11/2019 02:20 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/06/2019 ?? 13:36, songbird a ??crit : what i'm not sure of is if you need to bother with putting the grub bootloader on it so at the end where it asks you perhaps you can skip that step. IMO installing GRUB can be desirable for two

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/06/2019 à 13:36, songbird a écrit : what i'm not sure of is if you need to bother with putting the grub bootloader on it so at the end where it asks you perhaps you can skip that step. IMO installing GRUB can be desirable for two reasons. 1) Obviously, it allows the drive to boot by

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-11 Thread songbird
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > My Debian platform has four drives: > > NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT > sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk > ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part / > ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part > ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP] > sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk > ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /sdb1

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-10 Thread David Christensen
On 6/10/19 7:04 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: My Debian platform has four drives: NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part / ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP] sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/06/2019 à 16:04, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : sda is a 500 GB SSD, currently the boot drive, running Stretch (...) I am planning on adding a 1 TB SSD to the system to be dedicated to Buster (currently Testing). I know that if I select the new drive (for the purpose of this note, sdd)

Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-10 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
My Debian platform has four drives: NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part / ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP] sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /sdb1 ??sdb2 8:18 0 1K 0 part ??sdb5

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-25 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 07:02 Tom Browder wrote: > > I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has > no installed OS on it. Again, thanks to all who offered help. I have my new Zareason laptop up and running! Basic specs: UltraLap 6440 i7 Processor: i7-8550U 8

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-13 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 08:18 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 12/04/2019 à 22:46, Thomas D Dial a écrit : > > In terms of management, it is a major advance over physical > > partitioning > > for the file systems and, depending on particular file system > > characteristics, allows you to get out

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-13 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 08:26 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 12/04/2019 à 22:25, Thomas D Dial a écrit : > > I let the installer partition the USB key that was the install > > target > > and picked LVM, but specified distinct /, /usr/, /var, /home, and > > swap > > Why did you create a distinct

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-13 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 12/04/2019 à 22:25, Thomas D Dial a écrit : I let the installer partition the USB key that was the install target and picked LVM, but specified distinct /, /usr/, /var, /home, and swap Why did you create a distinct volume for /usr ? partitions and left some empty space within the LVM

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-13 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 12/04/2019 à 22:46, Thomas D Dial a écrit : In terms of management, it is a major advance over physical partitioning for the file systems and, depending on particular file system characteristics, allows you to get out of space problems without down time in many cases (online resizing is

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread David Christensen
On 4/11/19 5:02 AM, Tom Browder wrote: I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has no installed OS on it. It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. I would like to use a live image on

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > Your figures are virtually meaningless without any sort of breakdown > even into what's system and what's your documents. > yeah yeah ... use your imagination. Sqldeveloper, couple of virtual machines, some installation packages each of which is 1-2GB and so one Software

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 21:42:51 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > We have a laptop that was used with windows for just under four > > years. Main applications are Office for excel/word/powerpoint, > > Outlook for email, Coreldraw for publication figures. Disk usage > > is

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 09:41 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Debian for over 10, but > I've always used conventonal partitions and /etc/fstab definitions. > > Now that I'm getting a virgin, up-to-date laptop, I am considering > ising LVM but want to get the

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
nd mount recognizes as an iso9660 file system. Other parts of the Debian Installation Guide are likely to be useful as well. I can offer the following dual boot installation as a suggestive example. This was to a HP Pavilion laptop dating from about 2011 that has a traditional BIOS rather than

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: > A lot of people are still using cached knowledge from pre-jessie days. no you know at least one in the context of fdisk. I don't know why but I got the impression it does not understand GPT. Just 2 months ago I had to partition 5TB RAID5 disk and fdisk did not work.

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > We have a laptop that was used with windows for just under four > years. Main applications are Office for excel/word/powerpoint, > Outlook for email, Coreldraw for publication figures. Disk usage > is approximately 90GB, of which the user's own files are 45GB, > in a

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-12 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 12.04.2019 19:41, Tom Browder wrote: > I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Debian for over 10, but > I've always used conventonal partitions and /etc/fstab definitions. > > Now that I'm getting a virgin, up-to-date laptop, I am considering > ising LVM but want to get the option of

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 12/04/2019 à 16:09, Tom Browder a écrit : M.2 SSD: 120GB M.2 SSD (included) Samsung SSD 860 EVO == V-NAND SSD SATA 6 Gb/s size: 1 Tb my plan is to use the small disk for Win 10 and the other for Debian If the small M.2 SSD has a NVMe or AHCI interface, it may be faster

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 10:05:58 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > > >> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large > >> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both > > > > I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging. >

New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Debian for over 10, but I've always used conventonal partitions and /etc/fstab definitions. Now that I'm getting a virgin, up-to-date laptop, I am considering ising LVM but want to get the option of expert users: Should I go that route? Every thing I

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Felix Miata
deloptes composed on 2019-04-12 10:05 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >>> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large >>> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both >> I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging. > You always

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:01 PM David Christensen wrote: > Which model zareason laptop? > Which make, model, form factor, and interface 120 GB SSD? > Which form factor and interface Samsung EVO 860 1 TB SSD? > How much RAM? > Make and model WiFi interface? David, here are the specs on the

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:07:04AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Why not ? Current versions support GPT. > > Thank you my fault - I have missed something It changed after wheezy. Wheezy's man page says: fdisk does not understand GUID partition tables (GPTs)

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Why not ? Current versions support GPT. Thank you my fault - I have missed something

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
Felix Miata wrote: >> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large >> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both > > I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging. You always want to arge - but tell me how many applications or how

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread David Christensen
On 4/11/19 5:02 AM, Tom Browder wrote: I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has no installed OS on it. It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. Which model zareason laptop?

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/04/2019 à 20:47, deloptes a écrit : fdisk is not suitable for GPT Why not ? Current versions support GPT.

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Felix Miata
deloptes composed on 2019-04-11 20:47 (UTC+0200): > Tom Browder wrote: >> Given that I'm starting with two clean drives, my plan is to use the small >> disk for Win 10 and the other for Debian and maybe have a small partition >> to experiment with a BSD OS. > No Win10 will not be happy with

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread deloptes
Tom Browder wrote: > I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which > has no installed OS on it. > > It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay > where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. > > I would like to use a live image on a

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Tom Browder wrote: > As I > understand it, I believe I can just copy the Debian CD live iso image file > onto the USB and it will be found and booted from fine. Not necessarily. The question is: found by what ? The computer's firmware (BIOS or EFI, i assume) will ignore such an ISO 9660

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