On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 07:40, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
Yes, it raises the point that some manufacturers achieve their hardware
height and profile, not from the keyboard base, but from the different
heights of keys on the different rows of a Qwerty.
My current keyboard is built like
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 00:47, Dan Serban dser...@lodgingcompany.com wrote:
If not using your own hardware, would that not be a detriment
after getting used to the MS Natural keyboard?
Not at all. The R in RSI is repetitive, and the key to healing is to
reduce repetitive tasks. So regularly
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 07:40, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
Yes, it raises the point that some manufacturers achieve their hardware
height and profile, not from the keyboard base, but from the different
heights of keys on the different rows of a Qwerty.
My current keyboard is built like
On 10 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
That site is down at present.
My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
QWERTY keyboard?
Well, I hope the site has become available to you again
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:15:19 +0100
Andreas Weber ae...@worldwideweber.ch wrote:
My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
QWERTY keyboard?
No, it's not. Only if you always work on your own
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:07:44 +
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:
On 10 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
That site is down at present.
My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
* Weaver wea...@riseup.net [120112 02:56]:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
keyboard into the system.
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:46:47 -0800
Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200
Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
What's wrong with
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:46:47 -0800
Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
From investigations so far.
Advice from Daskeyboards support:
Thanks for your interest in Das Keyboard!
The physical key caps cannot be rearranged into the Dvorak layout
because
each row has a different height and
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 19:35, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:
My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
QWERTY keyboard?
Probably not. Some people cite speed, others comfort as a
Hi Weaver,
If you are curious about keyboard layouts then you might really enjoy
Dvorak. I have used Dvorak for about 8 years. It takes a while to get
rolling, but it has definitely been worth it. I feel like typing is a
much smoother activity now, and touch typing is easier.
When I
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:35:52 +
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:
On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
greater typing speed
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200
Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
How do you do that? I
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200
Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing
keyboard
From investigations so
My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
QWERTY keyboard?
No, it's not. Only if you always work on your own hardware. But as soon
as you have to touch different machines ... QWERT is everywhere
On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
moving from two finger typing
On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
greater
typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
moving from two finger
Hi Weaver,
If you are curious about keyboard layouts then you might really enjoy
Dvorak. I have used Dvorak for about 8 years. It takes a while to get
rolling, but it has definitely been worth it. I feel like typing is a
much smoother activity now, and touch typing is easier.
When I started out,
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you
could rearrange the keys,
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:52, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold
contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if
Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?
If you mean G80-3000 then that is the keyboard that Das Keyboard is
based on. Definitely one
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:12:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:52, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold
contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if
Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?
If you mean G80-3000
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 14:32, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
Mmm, are there different switches types for the same keyboard?
(...)
Wow, Internet says there are many colored pieces behaving differently!
Black, brown, white, clear, blue and red (it seems that red switches were
manufactured
--- On Sun, 1/7/12, Paul Johnson wrote:
I like the app, I can certainly see improvement in my case.
$ aptitude show klavaro
Package: klavaro
Version: 1.9.3-1
It's a shame this doesn't support USA Cherokee layout.
It supports custom layouts, select Custom as Keyboard, you may be able
thought the user was looking for a confortable dvorak
keyboard device and the answer is the same regardless the layout. I agree
with your suggestion of Cherry keyboards, I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold
contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if
Cherry produces Dvorak
(gold
contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if
Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?
Also using Cherry both at work and home.
Not sure but what you can do is to get Model M, Cherry or Das Keyboard,
re-arrange the keys and change the keyboard layout.
Regards,
--
Raf
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:26:31 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 10:52:53AM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
I'm sure memorizing the keys or using a blank keyboard is an easy task
for professional typists :-)
I disagree, you don't have to be a professional typist to memorise the
keys on
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 21:57 -0800, T Elcor wrote:
--- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
card for those typing sessions.
I'd
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:44:22PM +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
I guess I wasn't clear enough. This should have been:
What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
and changing the layout at the same time (I'm aware it won't be 100%)?
This way one can try it out without
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote:
Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments,
What about incompetent musicians?
Lisi
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On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 11:22:09PM +, Lisi wrote:
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote:
Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments,
What about incompetent musicians?
Off-topic.
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Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
keys to begin with.
I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the keys to be properly
labeled. Why? Because I occasionally hit a key or shortcut with one hand
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote:
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
keys to begin with.
I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the keys to be properly
labeled. Why?
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:38 -0600:
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote:
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
keys to begin with.
I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I
On 01/07/2012 08:27 PM, green wrote:
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:38 -0600:
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote:
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
keys to begin with.
I type
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 21:57 -0800, T Elcor wrote:
--- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your
sound
card for those typing sessions.
I'd
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 19:39, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:29:07 Aaron Toponce wrote:
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 11:22:09PM +, Lisi wrote:
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote:
Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments,
What about incompetent musicians?
Off-topic.
No, it
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:38:00 Aaron Toponce wrote:
Piano players do this all the time.
off topic
Lisi
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On Sat, 2012-01-07 at 23:22 -0800, Weaver wrote:
It's a shame this doesn't support USA Cherokee layout.
When I was reading their site yesterday, they made a point of feedback
being appreciated and wanting to implement new formats, so an approach in
that direction could be well in order.
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
keyboard into
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote:
What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?
Because you wouldn't know where the letters are? I think that Weaver means a
physical keyboard, not the choice of layout in your OS.
Lisi
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even
delayed moving from two finger
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:32:06PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote:
What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?
Because you wouldn't know where the letters are? I think that Weaver means a
physical keyboard, not the choice
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:37:16PM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the one
printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap in
your head and type without looking at the keyboard.
That's why I suggested a blank as it
.
There are not many Dvorak keyboards available, but here some I have found (I
have used none of these):
http://typematrix.com
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/
http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak/products/keyboards-layouts-dvorak
http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak/products
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you
could rearrange the keys, but I do not know of any modern equivalent.
Lisi
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On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you
could rearrange the keys, but I do
On Friday 06 January 2012 20:07:57 Raf Czlonka wrote:
Model M keyboards as these are the ones you referring to, originally made
by IBM, are still widely available either from your local second hand
computer shop or from eBay or you can still buy them new from Unicomp.
Thanks. Worth knowing!
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even
delayed moving from two finger
.
There are not many Dvorak keyboards available, but here some I have found
(I
have used none of these):
http://typematrix.com
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/
http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak/products/keyboards-layouts-dvorak
http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which
you
could rearrange the keys, but I do
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
Hello all.
I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
greater
typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a
You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
card for those typing sessions. Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key
to use. This for sighted people just enables another learning channel.On
You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
card for those typing sessions. Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key
to use. This for sighted people just enables another learning channel.
--- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote:
You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
card for those typing sessions.
I'd suggest klavaro application to improve one's typing skills,
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