Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-26 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/26/2017 06:53 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > As more examples of the symptoms, in Firefox, scrolling through my > email's Inbox list, is a little sluggish, however, scrolling through a > site that has images and other things (rt.com), I can scroll up and down > more smoothly. > In the

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-26 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/26/2017 06:40 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2017, at 06:18 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > >> Now means that 4.9+79 is what is now installed on your system. 4.9+80 >> is available from the testing distribution, so that would mean that you >> have the testing distribution

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-26 Thread Anil Duggirala
As more examples of the symptoms, in Firefox, scrolling through my email's Inbox list, is a little sluggish, however, scrolling through a site that has images and other things (rt.com), I can scroll up and down more smoothly. In the Applications Dropdown from the top bar in Gnome Classic, it

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-26 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/26/2017 06:40 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2017, at 06:18 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > >> Now means that 4.9+79 is what is now installed on your system. 4.9+80 >> is available from the testing distribution, so that would mean that you >> have the testing distribution

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-26 Thread Anil Duggirala
On Fri, May 26, 2017, at 06:18 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > Now means that 4.9+79 is what is now installed on your system. 4.9+80 > is available from the testing distribution, so that would mean that you > have the testing distribution mentioned in your sources.list file in > /etc/apt. I had

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-26 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/26/2017 09:38 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > > On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 11:11 PM, Ric Moore wrote: >> Please don't top post. You don't see anyone else doing that do you?? >> Take a clue. Ric > > Sorry for top-posting, I have taken a clue now. > I deactivated Animations in Gnome (Tweak Tool

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-26 Thread Anil Duggirala
On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 11:11 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > Please don't top post. You don't see anyone else doing that do you?? > Take a clue. Ric Sorry for top-posting, I have taken a clue now. I deactivated Animations in Gnome (Tweak Tool - Appearance), this appears to have helped, dragging

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Ric Moore
On 05/24/2017 08:57 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote: Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Please don't top post. You don't see anyone else doing that do you?? Take a clue. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
I am running the default Gnome player, Totem. I will install icewm when I am on a better connection, with dependencies, goes up to 48 MB. The following NEW packages will be installed: esound-common gconf-service gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-mime-data icewm icewm-common libaudiofile1 libbonobo2-0

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-05-24 16:54 (UTC-0400): > You'll need to do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" to bring in the 4.9.0-3-amd64 > kernel package, but I don't expect that will have any effect on your > current problem. Certainly possible. His kernel was compiled 30 March. -3 was compiled 3

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
I dont know if people are being misled by the title in this thread and I should start a new thread. Gnome is working in my laptop since I installed Stretch, it is just not working well. please read only my previous message to this one, thanks, On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 04:00 PM, Henrique de Moraes

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 24 May 2017, Felix Miata wrote: > Once upon a time, Intel gfx did not need any firmware that was not part of a > default or minimal installation. :-( Nowadays it may actually requires BIOS/UEFI _and_ processor microcode updates as well. The BIOS/UEFI updates work around issues related to

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 03:43:43PM -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: > I have one more question, doing apt-get upgrade mentions > linux-image-amd64 is being "held back" I am currently on 4.9.0-2, could > this be related? You'll need to do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" to bring in the 4.9.0-3-amd64 kernel

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
Hello everyone, thanks for your responses. To recap, I installed a fresh Stretch with Gnome, that is all I have done so far. Felix: xorg-xserver-video-intel is installed and shows up in dpkg -l grep intel: ii libdrm-intel1:amd64 2.4.74-1 amd64

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 04:31:40PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > All my Stretch installations are using /var/log/ for Xorg.#.log whether I use > startx (with or without a DM running) or not. All my openSUSEes are, and even > my > Fedoras IIRC. In stretch, startx uses /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you run

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-05-24 16:00 (UTC-0400): > A more common suggestion might be to verify that all of the necessary > firmware has been installed, especially if some of it is from non-free. > dmesg | grep -i firmware Requested >20 hours ago:

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 03:38:38PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Given that that log contains no (EE) errors, switching to a different DE might > be a solution. Well, we knew that from the Subject: of the email. ;-) The message in the subject is unique to certain desktop environments, and

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Felix Miata
Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-24 09:12 (UTC-0500): > hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243 > Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop? > I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left > from previous Jessie. >

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:34:22AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243 > > [ 65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian > 6th line down, is the new debian9rc installer same as Debian 8.8? > The official stretch

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Fungi4All
UTC Time: May 24, 2017 2:12 PM From: anilduggir...@fastmail.fm hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243 [ 65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian 6th line down, is the new debian9rc installer same as Debian 8.8? I assume jessie was installed and

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243 Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop? I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left from previous Jessie. swithching *dm is still a valid idea in this case? thanks a lot, On

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 07:57:17 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: > Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log, $HOME/.local/share/xorg -- Brian.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log, On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 07:52 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > Thanks a lot for your replies. Yes I believe I dont have graphics > acceleration. My interface is sluggish. I believe I am playing video > with Totem, it has these mini freezes and then

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
Thanks a lot for your replies. Yes I believe I dont have graphics acceleration. My interface is sluggish. I believe I am playing video with Totem, it has these mini freezes and then after some while starts to freeze badly making it unwatchabel. the output from inxi -c0 -G Graphics: Card: Intel

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:06:44PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all > important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months > after > Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie. > > Gnome *should* be working

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-23 Thread Felix Miata
Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 08:24 (UTC-0500): > I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical > interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video > playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes Playback of what? With which

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 23 May 2017 23:06:44 Felix Miata wrote: > Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 11:00 (UTC-0500): > > Lisi Reisz wrote on 2017-05-23 16:58 (UTC+0100): > >> What is your graphics card? > > > > Im not sure, this is the output from lspci > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-23 Thread Felix Miata
Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 11:00 (UTC-0500): > Lisi Reisz wrote on 2017-05-23 16:58 (UTC+0100): >> What is your graphics card? > Im not sure, this is the output from lspci > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device > [8086:22b1] (rev 21) > as I posted

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-23 Thread Anil Duggirala
Im not sure, this is the output from lspci 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22b1] (rev 21) as I posted before. On Tue, May 23, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 23 May 2017 14:24:49 Anil Duggirala wrote: > > Hello, > > I have upgrade to

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 23 May 2017 14:24:49 Anil Duggirala wrote: > Hello, > I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical > interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video > playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes > unwatchable (it starts

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-23 Thread Anil Duggirala
Hello, I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes unwatchable (it starts using up a lot of CPU power). In the recommendations here

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/21/2017 05:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and full response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly corresponding partitions with guided

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 22 May 2017 15:12:39 Anil Duggirala wrote: > Thanks a lot Brian, so right after I install I can change all deb lines > and replace 'testing' with 'stretch' ?? If you are installing from scratch, yes. If you are upgrading, go straight from "stable" or "jessie" to "stretch", and don't

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Anil Duggirala
Thanks a lot, thanks Micheal, On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 03:18 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > On 05/22/2017 12:28 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > > thanks a lot Fungi, > > I want to reinstall the whole system, so I will download Strech RC 3 > > from here

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/22/2017 12:28 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > thanks a lot Fungi, > I want to reinstall the whole system, so I will download Strech RC 3 > from here https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > and then after finishing installation will change 'testing' for > 'jessie', can I do that? >

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Anil Duggirala
thanks a lot Fungi, I want to reinstall the whole system, so I will download Strech RC 3 from here https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/and then after finishing installation will change 'testing' for 'jessie', can I do that?thanks a lot, P.S. sorry for spamming your email Fungi On

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Kent West
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Fungi4All wrote: > > > The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it. I have run > stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a sense that sid > is even lighter and more stable in hardware resources. With all

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Fungi4All
Original Message Subject: Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. UTC Time: May 22, 2017 1:54 PM From: anilduggir...@fastmail.fm Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal. I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian Testing. I guess

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Brian
On Mon 22 May 2017 at 09:12:39 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: > Thanks a lot Brian, so right after I install I can change all deb lines > and replace 'testing' with 'stretch' ?? Correct. You will get any updates to testing for a short while. Then it becomes stable (but still stretch). After that

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Anil Duggirala
Thanks a lot Brian, so right after I install I can change all deb lines and replace 'testing' with 'stretch' ?? On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:05 AM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 22 May 2017 at 08:54:59 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: > > > Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal. > > I will follow your advice, and

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Brian
On Mon 22 May 2017 at 08:54:59 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: > Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal. > I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian > Testing. I guess when Stretch is released I will be able to install > that, correct? So I will be able to go back to using a stable

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-22 Thread Anil Duggirala
Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal. I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian Testing. I guess when Stretch is released I will be able to install that, correct? So I will be able to go back to using a stable release right? I'm really afraid of testing, the whole reason I like

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/21/2017 07:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and full > response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with > partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly > corresponding partitions with guided

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Felix Miata
Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-21 19:24 (UTC-0500): > More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible graphics > and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from backports (4.9), > these problems were resolved. I have tried installing Linux-image 4.9 > from backports

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Anil Duggirala
Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and full response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly corresponding partitions with guided partitioning). More info: When I installed initially with

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/21/2017 12:52 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 05/21/2017 12:23 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: However, the OP's post does not mention anything of this nature. The OP deleted the existing Debian partition(s) leaving the existing Windows partition(s) alone. No mention was made of the

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/21/2017 12:23 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 05/21/2017 08:48 AM, Michael Milliman wrote: >> >> >> On 05/21/2017 05:48 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >>> On 05/21/2017 03:25 AM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 05/21/2017 05:09 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 05/21/2017 12:57 AM,

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/21/2017 08:48 AM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 05/21/2017 05:48 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 05/21/2017 03:25 AM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 05/21/2017 05:09 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 05/21/2017 12:57 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 21/05/2017 à 09:55, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : No,

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/21/2017 05:48 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 05/21/2017 03:25 AM, Michael Milliman wrote: >> >> >> On 05/21/2017 05:09 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >>> On 05/21/2017 12:57 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 21/05/2017 à 09:55, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : >>> > No, you should NOT have deleted

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 21/05/2017 à 12:48, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : Michael what I'm saying is if you have sda1,sda2,sda3, partitions and you delete sda2 partition, sda3 becomes sda2 and if you make a new partition, even in the same unused space it will become sda3. Bullshit again. Unless the partition table is

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/21/2017 03:25 AM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 05/21/2017 05:09 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 05/21/2017 12:57 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 21/05/2017 à 09:55, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : No, you should NOT have deleted the partition, now your partition table is messed up. Bullshit. This

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/21/2017 05:09 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 05/21/2017 12:57 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Le 21/05/2017 à 09:55, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : > >>> No, you should NOT have deleted the partition, now your partition table >>> is messed up. >> >> Bullshit. This is just a Gnome error. > > Unless

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/21/2017 12:57 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 21/05/2017 à 09:55, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : No, you should NOT have deleted the partition, now your partition table is messed up. Bullshit. This is just a Gnome error. Unless you are deleting the last partition your partition table is

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 21/05/2017 à 03:40, Fungi4All a écrit : Original Message Subject: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Local Time: May 21, 2017 3:56 AM UTC Time: May 21, 2017 12:56 AM From: anilduggir...@fastmail.fm To: debian-user@lists.debian.org I had

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 21/05/2017 à 09:55, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : On 05/20/2017 05:56 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: I had installed Windows 10 and Debian 8.8 (with LXDE) in dual boot (UEFI) and everything was working. I wanted to reinstall Debian, so I installed Debian again by deleting the debian partitions (I think

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/20/2017 05:56 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: I had installed Windows 10 and Debian 8.8 (with LXDE) in dual boot (UEFI) and everything was working. I wanted to reinstall Debian, so I installed Debian again by deleting the debian partitions (I think correctly) using the Debian installer

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-20 Thread Felix Miata
Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-20 19:56 (UTC-0500): ... We can help you better if you can provide more information. When was your PC new? What make and model is it? Are you able to Ctrl-Alt-Fn and log in? If yes, try to show us output at least from: inxi -c0 -G or inxi -c0

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-20 Thread Fungi4All
Original Message Subject: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Local Time: May 21, 2017 3:56 AM UTC Time: May 21, 2017 12:56 AM From: anilduggir...@fastmail.fm To: debian-user@lists.debian.org I had installed Windows 10 and Debian 8.8 (with LXDE)