Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 1.80 Logfile Changes

2004-09-29 Thread Don Brown
Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:48:59 PM, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Details?  Are you seeing the Message OK lines?

Typical log entries:

09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 L1 Message OK

RSP Is this with LOG_OK NONE?  That line should prevent this log file entry
RSP from appearing.

RSP The others, such as Subject/From/etc. should appear if you are using
RSP LOGLEVEL HIGH, though (with or without LOG_OK NONE).
RSP -Scott
We're using LOG_OK NONE and LOGLEVEL MID.

The Subject/From/etc. lines are still written to the log (That's good
- NOT asking for that to change.)

The only time we see the 'L1 Message OK' is when the e-mail did fail a
test, but it either had a weight of 0 or it was whitelisted, and the
Subject/From/etc. lines are also written (no prob there, either).

I initially thought the Subject/From/etc. were taken out of Log MID
and added to Log HIGH.  Hope that wasn't the intent . . .

Thanks,




Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
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[Declude.JunkMail] STOPALLTESTS in Global config?

2004-09-29 Thread Rick Davidson
Can STOPALLTESTS be used in place of the weight in the global config?
For example:
SENDERDB ip4r pub.senderdb.net  127.0.0.2 STOPALLTESTS 0
Rick Davidson
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North American Title Group
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] STOPALLTESTS in Global config?

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Can STOPALLTESTS be used in place of the weight in the global config?
No, it only applies to filters.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 1.80 and e-mail notifications

2004-09-29 Thread Nick Hayer
On 28 Sep 2004 at 16:58, R. Scott Perry wrote:
Scott -

 Thanks for pointing that out -- it should be fixed now. 
Does this mean we need to do something on our end or retreive an 
interim?

Thanks

-Nick


 The format
 used for the forging virus lookups was changed, and we had to also
 make a change on our end to reflect that (which was just made).
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 1.80 and e-mail notifications

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

 Thanks for pointing that out -- it should be fixed now.
Does this mean we need to do something on our end or retreive an
interim?
No, it was entirely on our end.
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[Declude.JunkMail] Ip blacklist file

2004-09-29 Thread Jeff Maze
Hello,
I have a question.  I have a test that when a spam message comes
through the filters and not caught, I add the whole /24 IP address range to
a file so that if a message arrives from the IP range again, it's
automatically set to a weight that gets the message forwarded to an e-mail
account for review.
Anyway, I would like to add the IP addresses of hotmail, etc. so
that if a message comes through from the hotmail servers, I don't
inadvertently block it.
Can I just add a '#' before the IP address to 'rem' it out and
Declude won't block it?
Thanks..


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Ip blacklist file

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Anyway, I would like to add the IP addresses of hotmail, etc. so
that if a message comes through from the hotmail servers, I don't
inadvertently block it.
Can I just add a '#' before the IP address to 'rem' it out and
Declude won't block it?
That will work fine -- in that case, Declude JunkMail will ignore the line, 
so any E-mail from that IP won't fail the test.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 1.80 Logfile Changes

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Typical log entries:
09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 L1 Message OK
This one should not be appearing if you are using LOG_OK NONE.  I have 
found the cause of this; it will be fixed in the next release.

09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 Subject: MTA
09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 10.60.213.59 ID:
These are occurring because you are using LOGLEVEL MID.  If people think 
that LOG_OK NONE should suppress this information that appears in LOGLEVEL 
MID, please speak up.

09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 Tests failed [weight=0]:
The next release will have this line honor LOG_OK NONE.
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[Declude.JunkMail] Stopatfirsthit and stopalltests

2004-09-29 Thread Rick Davidson
A few questions on these new options, the manual states that it will stop 
processing the filter or remaining filters but it doesnt say whether or not 
it will fail the test that triggers it.

For example if I use
BODY STOPALLTESTS CONTAINS spam verbiage
does the match fail the test triggering whatever action in the junk.mail 
file? I tried this and spam started slipping through that would have failed 
prior to using that keyword

If I add STOPATFIRSTHIT to the top of my holding filters will it fail the 
test on the first hit?

Rick Davidson
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North American Title Group
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 1.80 Logfile Changes

2004-09-29 Thread Elise Lewis
At 9/29/2004 02:34 PM, R. Scott Perry wrote:
09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 Subject: MTA
09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 10.60.213.59 ID:
These are occurring because you are using LOGLEVEL MID.  If people think 
that LOG_OK NONE should suppress this information that appears in LOGLEVEL 
MID, please speak up.
I think that LOG_OK NONE should suppress all information about messages 
which don't fail any tests, regardless of LOGLEVEL.

Thanks for the info on the other stuff.
Elise
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 1.80 Logfile Changes

2004-09-29 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I would have to agree. I think that makes sense except for the debug level.
All others should honor the config line.


Kevin Bilbee

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 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 1.80 Logfile Changes


 At 9/29/2004 02:34 PM, R. Scott Perry wrote:

 09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 Subject: MTA
 09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 10.60.213.59 ID:
 
 These are occurring because you are using LOGLEVEL MID.  If people think
 that LOG_OK NONE should suppress this information that appears
 in LOGLEVEL
 MID, please speak up.

 I think that LOG_OK NONE should suppress all information about messages
 which don't fail any tests, regardless of LOGLEVEL.

 Thanks for the info on the other stuff.

 Elise

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[Declude.JunkMail] filtering on sender name

2004-09-29 Thread John Carter
I promised I read the manual.

I'm wanting to handle mail based on sender name.  Particularly I'm
getting considerable spam from coups@ and sender@, among others. 

What I am thinking about is:

GLOBAL.CFG 
JCFILTERfilter  D:\decludefilters\jcfilters.txt x 0 0

$DEFAULT.JUNKMAIL$
JCFILTERHOLD

JCFILTER.TXT
MAILFROM0   STARTSWITH  coups@
MAILFROM0   STARTSWITH  sender@
 (maybe use CONTAINS)

Later on after testing, I would add score values to increase the weight
score or just maybe outright delete. I delete at 20.  Anybody see
problems here?

Thanks,
John

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 1.80 Logfile Changes

2004-09-29 Thread John Carter
There does seem to be a variety of needs and wants regarding logging.
Scott, could you consider providing configurable logging instead of just
logging levels or some degree of configurable logging within the levels?
As in maybe:
SHOWINLOG MAILFROM
SHOWINLOG RECPT
SHOWINLOG TESTFAILED
etc., etc., wherein display order was predetermined or shown in order in
config file.  Keep current ok message suppression with LOG_OK NONE.

John

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Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 1.80 Logfile Changes

At 9/29/2004 02:34 PM, R. Scott Perry wrote:

09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 Subject: MTA
09/28/2004 15:59:07 Qc28b026d0172aa34 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 10.60.213.59 ID:

These are occurring because you are using LOGLEVEL MID.  If people
think 
that LOG_OK NONE should suppress this information that appears in
LOGLEVEL 
MID, please speak up.

I think that LOG_OK NONE should suppress all information about messages 
which don't fail any tests, regardless of LOGLEVEL.

Thanks for the info on the other stuff.

Elise

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Stopatfirsthit and stopalltests

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

A few questions on these new options, the manual states that it will stop 
processing the filter or remaining filters but it doesnt say whether or 
not it will fail the test that triggers it.

For example if I use
BODY STOPALLTESTS CONTAINS spam verbiage
does the match fail the test triggering whatever action in the junk.mail 
file? I tried this and spam started slipping through that would have 
failed prior to using that keyword
STOPALLTESTS will prevent the filter from being triggered (although any 
weights will be added).

STOPATFIRSTHIT will stop the filter, but will not prevent it from being 
triggered.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Sender Blacklist wildcard?

2004-09-29 Thread Scott Fosseen
Is there a wildcard character that can be used in the Sender Blacklist.
Specifically I would like a character or number wildcard so that I could 
blacklist addresses like
spam01.com
spam02.com
with and entry like
spam##.com
so that entries from spam00.com - spam99.com would be caught with one entry 
instead of 100 entries.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] filtering on sender name

2004-09-29 Thread Matt
John,
There is an extra s in the path for the Global.cfg line that would 
cause the filter to not be run.  This would likely also cause an error 
to be logged as well if you wanted to check that out.  Everything else 
looks like it would do what you were trying to do.

Matt

John Carter wrote:
I promised I read the manual.
I'm wanting to handle mail based on sender name.  Particularly I'm
getting considerable spam from coups@ and sender@, among others. 

What I am thinking about is:
GLOBAL.CFG 
JCFILTER	filter	D:\decludefilters\jcfilters.txt x 0 0

$DEFAULT.JUNKMAIL$
JCFILTERHOLD
JCFILTER.TXT
MAILFROM0   STARTSWITH  coups@
MAILFROM0   STARTSWITH  sender@
(maybe use CONTAINS)
Later on after testing, I would add score values to increase the weight
score or just maybe outright delete. I delete at 20.  Anybody see
problems here?
Thanks,
John
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sender Blacklist wildcard?

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is there a wildcard character that can be used in the Sender Blacklist.
No, there is not.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sender Blacklist wildcard?

2004-09-29 Thread Scott Fosseen
What would be the possibility of having that function added?
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No, there is not.
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[Declude.JunkMail] Order in which tests are run

2004-09-29 Thread Elise Lewis
I know that IP4R tests are run first, but is there any order to tests after 
that?

In particular, I have two filter files and I'd like to run them in a 
particular order -- is that possible?

Elise
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Order in which tests are run

2004-09-29 Thread Elise Lewis
great.
Thanks.
At 9/29/2004 04:57 PM, you wrote:
I know that IP4R tests are run first, but is there any order to tests 
after that?

In particular, I have two filter files and I'd like to run them in a 
particular order -- is that possible?
Declude JunkMail has a specific hard-coded order that test *types* are run 
in (for example, all IP4R tests are run before filters).  However, when 
there are multiple tests of the same type (such as two filters), they are 
run in the order listed in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Order in which tests are run

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

I know that IP4R tests are run first, but is there any order to tests 
after that?

In particular, I have two filter files and I'd like to run them in a 
particular order -- is that possible?
Declude JunkMail has a specific hard-coded order that test *types* are run 
in (for example, all IP4R tests are run before filters).  However, when 
there are multiple tests of the same type (such as two filters), they are 
run in the order listed in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Order in which tests are run

2004-09-29 Thread Scott Fisher
Follow-up please.
Where do IPFILE and FromFile tests fit in the running mix?

My guess on the run order is this:
Declude Internal Tests
IP4R
External
Filters

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 I know that IP4R tests are run first, but is there any order to tests
 after that?
 
 In particular, I have two filter files and I'd like to run them in a
 particular order -- is that possible?

 Declude JunkMail has a specific hard-coded order that test *types* are run
 in (for example, all IP4R tests are run before filters).  However, when
 there are multiple tests of the same type (such as two filters), they are
 run in the order listed in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Order in which tests are run

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Follow-up please.
Where do IPFILE and FromFile tests fit in the running mix?
I believe fromfile test type is first, ipfile test type is second, with 
ip4r appearing later, and filters last.

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[Declude.JunkMail] user to user on same domain

2004-09-29 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
It's been a few days since I was working on this and I should have asked
then but got pulled in another direction so this will have kind of vague
proofs.

Does mail going fro muser to user in the same domain (and on the same
system) go through Declude.JunkMail?  I was getting indications that is
was slipping by.
   With this does anyone have a script or program that will backtrace a
message through all the log files -- Declude and iMail -- given the
message ID or some such?  This way I can look up specifics of why the
badheaders and spamheaders are being triggered.


TIA,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filtering on sender name

2004-09-29 Thread John Carter
Thanks, didn't see the typo. I'm going to watch the results for several
days.  Just in the last hour or so have caught about 50 msgs and its 100%
spam.

John

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John,

There is an extra s in the path for the Global.cfg line that would 
cause the filter to not be run.  This would likely also cause an error 
to be logged as well if you wanted to check that out.  Everything else 
looks like it would do what you were trying to do.

Matt



John Carter wrote:

I promised I read the manual.

I'm wanting to handle mail based on sender name.  Particularly I'm
getting considerable spam from coups@ and sender@, among others. 

What I am thinking about is:

GLOBAL.CFG 
JCFILTER   filter  D:\decludefilters\jcfilters.txt x 0 0

$DEFAULT.JUNKMAIL$
JCFILTER   HOLD

JCFILTER.TXT
MAILFROM   0   STARTSWITH  coups@
MAILFROM   0   STARTSWITH  sender@
 (maybe use CONTAINS)

Later on after testing, I would add score values to increase the weight
score or just maybe outright delete. I delete at 20.  Anybody see
problems here?

Thanks,
John

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[Declude.JunkMail] STOPALLTESTS and STOPATFIRSTHIT vs MAXWEIGHT question

2004-09-29 Thread Scott Fisher



Two questions:

1) I'd like a clarify the STOPALLTESTS 
action.

IfI had a line
TESTSFAILED 
STOPALLTESTS CONTAINS 
GUARANTEED-NOTSPAM

This would exclude any e-mail that met that 
criteria from this filter and all subsequent filters.

If my understanding is correct, it would be 
interesting to have a 
SKIPIFWEIGHTALLTESTS340 option where this 
filter and all subsequent filters would be skipped for a certain weight. (this 
would save a lot of filter files from being opened).

2) I use a lot of Maxweight to limit my 
filter to one hit.

What's more efficient?

MAXWEIGHT 100
BODY 100 CONTAINSSPAM-URL
BODY 100 CONTAINSSPAM-URL2
...

or


STOPATFIRSTHIT 
BODY 100 CONTAINSSPAM-URL
BODY 100 
CONTAINSSPAM-URL2
...




RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Order in which tests are run

2004-09-29 Thread David
Thanks for the order.  It's helpful for us in optimizing the CPU
performance.  We are working to put the new optimization tests at the top of
all our filter tests.

Scott, do you know where the internal Declude tests fit in the lineup?  For
example: cmdspace, revdnsexists, spamdomains, envfromstrict, base64, etc.

Thanks,
David

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Follow-up please.
Where do IPFILE and FromFile tests fit in the running mix?

I believe fromfile test type is first, ipfile test type is second, with 
ip4r appearing later, and filters last.

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[Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue

2004-09-29 Thread David Dresler



I thought i had a 
handle on this SPF stuff, but i think i've got something wrong in my 
understanding.

I've set up my SPF 
record for our domain with the following record:

choicenet1.com
v=spf1 
ip4:207.170.239.11 ip4:207.170.239.4 a mx -all 

From my 
understanding of this, the ip4's are extra ip addy's that should be "allowed" to 
send email AS this domain. The mx entry states that the ip addy of the mx 
record(s) found for this domain are also "allowed" to send email AS this 
domain.
Am I right so 
far?

Now, my dialup 
customers are on a different subnet and log into our imail server using smtp 
auth. When they send emails out, shouldn't the ip addy of the email then 
take on the ip addy of the email server in the eyes of the receiving mail 
server? the reason i ask this is because of the following in my 
spf.log:

216.64.178.28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [dona]: FAIL: v=spf1 
ip4:207.170.239.11 ip4:207.170.239.4 a mx -all 

There are lots of 
failures in the log and the ip address on the far left is an ip addy in the ip 
pool of our max tnt for our dial up customers, not the ip addy of the email 
server. I see this for just about every one of my users, so for now, i've 
turned off SPF.

Can someone explain 
why/where i am going wrong? Is this a case of standard version vs. pro 
version and declude is just logging all "outbound" attempts and throwing me 
off? that makes me wonder though, why am i even seeing these since they 
are "leaving" my mail server to go to others. it should be in their log 
files.right?

thanks for any 
help provided!

(running Junkmail 
Standard version 1.79)

David Dresler



Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Now, my dialup customers are on a different subnet and log into our imail 
server using smtp auth.  When they send emails out, shouldn't the ip addy 
of the email then take on the ip addy of the email server in the eyes of 
the receiving mail server?
No.  Otherwise, it would defeat the purpose of SPF:  A spammer could 
connect to your mailserver and send out spam.

What you can do in this case (if you are running IMail v8) is add a line 
WHITELIST AUTH to your \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file, to whitelist all 
users that authenticate.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] STOPALLTESTS and STOPATFIRSTHIT vs MAXWEIGHT question

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

1)  I'd like a clarify the STOPALLTESTS action.
If I had a line
TESTSFAILEDSTOPALLTESTS   CONTAINSGUARANTEED-NOTSPAM
This would exclude any e-mail that met that criteria from this filter and 
all subsequent filters.

If my understanding is correct, it would be interesting to have a
SKIPIFWEIGHTALLTESTS 340 option where this filter and all subsequent 
filters would be skipped for a certain weight. (this would save a lot of 
filter files from being opened).
For that, you could use SKIPIFWEIGHT 340 at the beginning of all 
filters.  Not quite as efficient (as the filters will be started), but 
there is little overhead to starting the filters.

2)  I use a lot of Maxweight to limit my filter to one hit.
What's more efficient?
MAXWEIGHT 100
BODY 100 CONTAINS SPAM-URL
BODY 100 CONTAINS SPAM-URL2
...
or
STOPATFIRSTHIT
BODY 100 CONTAINS SPAM-URL
BODY 100 CONTAINS SPAM-URL2
...
Both will have nearly identical performance.  Specifically, in each case, 
only the first BODY comparison will be made (and it is those BODY/CONTAINS 
combinations that eat up CPU time).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue

2004-09-29 Thread Kevin Bilbee
No, the probem you are having is with your own mail server catching messages
from your subscribers sending mail. If you do not allow mail relay and only
auth then you can whitelist your dial up ip address of your users within
declude. Now if they are not connecting from one of your dial up ranges then
they will be caught with the SPF record.

Many features of declude are muted by not using WHITELIST AUTH and not being
on the 8.x version of imail.

Kevin Bilbee



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 Unfortunately i'm running imail 7.07 and it doesn't look like
 we'll be going
 to 8.x anytime soon.  So, if i change my spf record to include
 the ip pool
 of my dialup users, i should be ok, correct?

 That would be fine.

   or, i could change the -all to ~all, correct?

 That could work, although it has two drawbacks:  many SPF systems don't
 support softfail yet, and it reduces the effectiveness of your SPF record.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] user to user on same domain

2004-09-29 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

R. Scott Perry wrote:
 
 Does mail going fro muser to user in the same domain (and on the same
 system) go through Declude.JunkMail?
 
 
 Yes, it should (with the exception of E-mail sent by web messaging on
 IMail v7 and earlier).

Thanks.  I'll have to sort this out when I can get back to the project.
 
 With this does anyone have a script or program that will backtrace a
 message through all the log files -- Declude and iMail -- given the
 message ID or some such?  This way I can look up specifics of why the
 badheaders and spamheaders are being triggered.
 
 
 Unfortunately, I am not aware of such a tool.

Hum.  Potential there.  It is a problem often enough for us I'll
probably write one.

Has there been any message threads on the files (logs) and the key
fields in them to chase them down?


Rod
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[Declude.JunkMail] Forwarded messages

2004-09-29 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
When a e-mail is forwarded, is the e-mail again processed by Declude?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You



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