RE: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread Douglas Cohn
Plus, if they actually integrate our feedback, we'll buy the support agreement in order to download the latest fruits of our labor. :) Yes that is a key point and the reason I always rushed out to renew in the past. I sent this email because now I am not so sure. And I know others that have

[Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Daniel Ivey
Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind sharing? I have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Take a look at: http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100 F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version! Goran Jovanovic The

RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Daniel Ivey
I have tried using this script. I keep getting an error referring to wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot. Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Goran Jovanovic

RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Keith Johnson
Daniel, Give this a try: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html -Keith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:06 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: RE:

Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Jim Matuska
You could just go the simplistic route too and just put C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\FP-Updater\Updater.exe /internet /hidden in your task scheduler, it is not quite as robust or foolproof as some of the other scripts, but I have yet to have an issue with it and it is way simple to setup and

RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, you've got two problems here, Daniel. The first is that the script depends on an external program called wget that you probably don't have installed. The second is that this script should be deprecated, because the FTP method is no longer provided by F-Prot! As Jim and Keith pointed out,

RE: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread R. Scott Perry
If Scott would chime in here and say DON'T worry Doug these people know their stuff, you are in good hands. I would order a renewal. But he left. I'm not completely gone. :) Everyone does things differently, and I knew when I sold that company that the new owners wouldn't do everything

RE: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread Nick
On 2 May 2005 at 9:51, Douglas Cohn wrote: Douglas - I agree with what you are saying. And I miss Scott for his slant on techsupport and philosphy [ Remember Len Scott dialogs? :) ] That said we need to give the new Declude a chance. [That is coming from a guy that has been posting some

Re: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread Matt
Scott, While you have first hand knowledge of the inner-workings at Declude under the new management, many around here have no clue as to whether or not this list is even being monitored, and I think that's what is really at issue. Free and open communication is the best way to go. I think

Re: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread Wind
I sent this email because now I am not so sure. And I know others that have the same feelings. Renew or not renew. I was told the company would be run in the same high quality manner as before. Clearly that is not the case. Without knowing the coders know their stuff relating to spam it is

[Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean. Any one else seeing problems? For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off

[Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Chuck Schick
I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses attached as zip files. I am running Declude with F-Prot. We ban encrypted zips and I have error code 8 included. Anyone else seeing this behavior? Here is part of the log. 05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file:

RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip extensions. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM To: Declude. Virus Subject: [Declude.Virus]

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Wind
Thank you for the tip, John. I searched the logs and since the update there are legitimate E-mail, which are caught. Uwe - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
Yes, this is a problem! I rolled back to my latest defs prior to the last update and all is well again. I disabled my updates for a while to see if F-Prot fixes this issue. Bill - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent:

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Don Hickey
I am having the same problems here. It all started around 12:30 Central time... Don - Original Message - From: Matt To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit John,Thanks a bunch

Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV (Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot (although I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get there problem with HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed). Bill - Original Message - From:

RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Donn Bly
I'm seeing it here. Neither Norton or FPROT detect it as a virus yet. The non-encrypted Zip file includes a .PIF file, but the filename seems to be mangled in some way. For now I have added BANNAME account_info.zip to my config. With your report, I have added account_info-text.zip as

RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I saw it start at about 10:00 AM PDT. Some one please contact F-Prot. I would but I am at a client trying to recover data from a failed hard drive. Fun. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don

RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
F-Prot may have already fixed their pattern file. My current sign.def is timestamped: 05/02/2005 03:53 AM and checking their website and downloading the current version manually shows that the current version is: 05/02/2005 01:32 PM Can anybody with the issue confirm which pattern file they

Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread William Stillwell
http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=descriptionvirus_k=133409 Mcafee Dat 4473 should detect it. - Original Message - From: Donn Bly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting

[Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread Chuck Schick
I posted to list about a virus problem then I get this stupid (IMHO) challenge-response stuff. If everyone did this on all the lists I belong to - I would do a posting and then spend the next 3 days answering all the challenge-responses. I think I will report this as spam. Dear Greg Hedgepath -

RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Mine has the 01:32 PM time stamp and the last update time was at 10:00 AM which is after when I saw the problem, so I would have to say the 01:32 time stamp is the problem one. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread William Stillwell
Hahaha.. Yeah, I agree. - Original Message - From: Chuck Schick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude. Virus Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:49 PM Subject: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list? I posted to list about a virus problem then I get this

RE: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Thanks, Chuck. I appreciate your contribution. I've added several strings from this Zaep email to my filter that blocks lousy Challenge-Response emails. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005

RE: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread David Barker
mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. __ NOD32 1.1086 (20050502) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Jeff
How can I roll back ?? - Original Message - From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit Yes, this is a problem! I rolled back to my latest defs prior to the last

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
I'm having the same problem. Again - how do you rollback the virus defs? Wind wrote: Thank you for the tip, John. I searched the logs and since the update there are legitimate E-mail, which are caught. Uwe - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
Depends on how you execute your updates. I use a script that saves a copy of the previous defs to a backup directory. I can zip and send the previous defs to you if you do not have copies of them. Bill - Original Message - From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
sure - thanks! Has anyone let F-Prot know about this? Kevin Bill Landry wrote: Depends on how you execute your updates. I use a script that saves a copy of the previous defs to a backup directory. I can zip and send the previous defs to you if you do not have copies of them. Bill -

RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Chuck Schick
F-Prot Seems to be catching it now as X-Declude-Virus: Detected W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:55 PM

RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Markus Gufler
Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ? I can't see any appearance of HTML/ObjData in the entire current logfile, but I've still running 3.16a Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent:

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Matt
Markus, 3.16b here, but only 3 hits so far for this on a busy server, so it's not necessarily common. I was able to capture one of these and it appears to be hitting at least E-mails generated in "Microsoft Word 11". META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii" meta

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Don Hickey
I have not updated to 3.16b and have this problem... Don - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:09 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit Question: Have you all running the latest

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
I've been running 3.15b - I'm downloading the latest version now. Should I install? or will this have no effect on this particular issue? And what about the previous defs - anyone out there want to email me a previous def file as a work around?? Thanks Kevin Markus Gufler wrote: Question:

RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I don't think the engine version matters, just the pattern file. I've confirmed that the culprit is this, the most recent sign.def from 05/02/2005 01:32 PM And yes, I've sent in a support request via their web page; I'd like to supply them with several samples. I've also played around with

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
I e-mailed you the latest, non-affected defs, offline. I run 3.16b and it has the same problem (since it's a detection issue with the virus definition, not the application), but I would still upgrade to the latest version. Bill - Original Message - From: Kevin Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
I also filled out the form at FProt's site. Thanks for the defs. When I open up FProt, though, it says that my defs are up-to-date, even though I replaced the newest ones with the ones that you sent. I hope that that message indicates whether we've downloaded the latest - not whether we are

RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Markus Gufler
F-Prot Seems to be catching it now as X-Declude-Virus: Detected W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] My F-Prot is catching it for over 3 hours nou as Sober.O Previously only the second scanner Mcafee has catched is as Sober.gen for around a hour while F-prot has not detected it. In this hour there was

RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, what matters is that you have the correct (older) *.def files, not whether the GUI says you're up to date. As far as it knows, you are. Remember to temporarily disable your updater, or correct (older) *.def files will just get overwritten again when the auto-updater kicks in. Andrew 8)

[Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Chuck Schick
We have been running F-prot as the virus scanner with Declude for over a year but lately it seems to have more and more bugs in it. What do others recommend as low-cost scanners to work with declude? Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com --- This E-mail came from the

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
F-Prot may have pulled the latest defs do to the number of complaints received, which could explain why the app reports that you have the latest version. Bill - Original Message - From: Kevin Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:54 PM

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Nick
On 2 May 2005 at 15:02, Chuck Schick wrote: We have been running F-prot as the virus scanner with Declude for over a year but lately it seems to have more and more bugs in it. What do others recommend as low-cost scanners to work with declude? Hi Chuck - Well Mcafee is hard to beat for

RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Matt posted the authoritative roundup in a head to head comparison when he revamped his Declude Virus setup. Unless he chimes in here with an updated answer, the answer is somewhere in the archives. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, As of now I'm still getting hit by a virus with attachments like our _ secret . zip which Sophos catches as Sober.O. Ff-prot is still nopt catching them and there is as of yet no update. Just did a manual update and no new version. I'm at: SIGN.DEF 2-may-2005, 13:32 CET SIGN2.DEF

Fw: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, Oops, correct that. F-prot is catching it as Sober.O, Sophos is still not catching it. :-( Sure glad I'm using two scanners. ;-) As of now I'm still getting hit by a virus with attachments like our _ secret . zip which Sophos catches as Sober.O. Ff-prot is still nopt catching them and

[Declude.Virus] AVERT Medium Threat Advisory for Home Users Only: W32/Sober.p@MM

2005-05-02 Thread Andy Schmidt
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 04:36 PM Subject: AVERT Medium Threat Advisory for Home Users Only: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Advisory This is a Medium Threat Advisory for W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] for Home Users Only. Justification W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] has

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Matt
Chuck, Search the archives for scanner efficiency olympics. It's a year old now, and I was primarily focused on performance instead of accuracy. F-Prot is the king of speed, however it seems to have several hiccups each year, and there seems to be a slew of different things happening lately.

RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I don't have any samples of the latest Sober, but *if* you're using the penultimate pattern file for F-Prot and have your auto-update disabled, then according to the writeups, either of these two techniques in your virus.cfg will keep this specific virus out of your user's mailboxes: BANEXT PIF

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Jonathan
I've found several bugs in the win32 implementations of ClamAV (some really ugly stuff), but none that really effect the scanning of viruses. Since that post was made, I think it's safe to say that ClamAV has made a bit of headway on performance. I'd be interested in seeing a head to head

RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Goran Jovanovic
I also started catching them at 16:21 Eastern Time Scanner 1 is FPROT 05/02/2005 16:21:48 Q8BBB4614012AF05F Scanner 1: Virus= W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Attachment=account_info.zip [2] O 05/02/2005 16:21:49 Q8BBB4614012AF05F Scanner 2: Virus= the W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Attachment=account_info.zip [2] O

Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Sanford Whiteman
We have been running F-prot as the virus scanner with Declude for over a year but lately it seems to have more and more bugs in it. What do others recommend as low-cost scanners to work with declude? I've been finding BitDefender to have a very reliable auto-updater, which is

RE: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread Douglas Cohn
Or even allowed on a list What many lists I belong to help avoid this is disallow any reposting of the footers. That way an automated process like this would never get through. It requires the users posting, us, to cut off the footers manually but that keeps the lists mean and lean. Initially I

RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
The sign*.def files have been updated to: 05/02/2005 11:46 PM Which I'm pretty sure is UTC. However, these still have the false-positive. As of this writing, I've received no reply to my ticket with F-Prot. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL