Re: [DISCUSS] Idle bug handling approach

2014-11-25 Thread tibor17
Michaelo, Due to we have a lot of open issues in SUREFIRE I have decided to ask the Reporter for closing in JIRA. So I have created a list of closable JIRA bugs and opened a discussion in Maven mailing list last week. This way the list was visible to all developers and everybody could argue to

Re: [DISCUSS] Idle bug handling approach

2014-11-25 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
I thinks this is great. Add item 5: 5. Some judgement should be used when applying this procedure to issues that have significant user involvement. We should probably make 2 tags in jira for issues that are in state 2 and 4; feedbackRequired and Closeable ? :) Kristian 2014-11-24 22:58

Re: [DISCUSS] Idle bug handling approach

2014-11-25 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
I also did this several times in surefire. I think this strategy is better because it can be used to avoid the accumulation of issues in the first place. It also allows us to be a little stricter on demanding test projects or similar, which is a great thing. As for the maven 1.x issues that's a

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 On 25 November 2014 at 10:57, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: For anyone who has been living under a rock, here is the background Background = I think everyone can agree that the site needs a reorganisation and a rewrite. Users cannot find what they

[VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
For anyone who has been living under a rock, here is the background Background = I think everyone can agree that the site needs a reorganisation and a rewrite. Users cannot find what they need, and the end result is that people keep on abusing maven rather than having maven help them.

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Arnaud Héritier
+1 thx On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On 25 November 2014 at 10:57, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: For anyone who has been living under a rock, here is the background Background = I

[DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what will we call it?

2014-11-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png When I created this owl, I gave it the name Couché Tard which is a french nickname for an owl (literal translation: Sleeps Late) Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname Shotgun Owl due to the

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Krull, Stephan
-1 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2014 11:57 An: Maven Developers List; Maven Users List Betreff: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot For anyone who has been living under a rock,

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Raphael Ackermann
+1 On Tue Nov 25 2014 at 11:57:49 AM Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On 25 November 2014 at 10:57, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: For anyone who has been living under a rock, here is the background Background = I

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread domi
+1 On 25.11.2014, at 11:57, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
+1 WBR, Maxim (from mobile, sorry for the typos) On Nov 25, 2014 5:31 PM, domi d...@fortysix.ch wrote: +1 On 25.11.2014, at 11:57, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Andreas Gudian
+1 Am Dienstag, 25. November 2014 schrieb Stephen Connolly : For anyone who has been living under a rock, here is the background Background = I think everyone can agree that the site needs a reorganisation and a rewrite. Users cannot find what they need, and the end result is that

Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what will we call it?

2014-11-25 Thread Andreas Gudian
I suggest Darth Mowl. But not seriously ;-). Am Dienstag, 25. November 2014 schrieb Stephen Connolly : http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png When I created this owl, I gave it the name Couché Tard which is a french nickname for an owl (literal

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Ralph Goers
-1 - only because a) I don’t understand the purpose of what is going on on the bird’s chest and b) I love the idea of putting the bird in a sweater with the letter “M” on it. Ralph On Nov 25, 2014, at 5:05 AM, Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Am Dienstag, 25. November

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Paul Benedict
+1 non-binding Cheers, Paul On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: -1 - only because a) I don’t understand the purpose of what is going on on the bird’s chest and b) I love the idea of putting the bird in a sweater with the letter “M” on it. Ralph

[DISCUSS] Design by committee

2014-11-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 25 November 2014 at 14:31, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: -1 - only because a) I don’t understand the purpose of what is going on on the bird’s chest and https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSmbWMy3KPTNcnuorFhjAJABm6Al8mGBu8pMsxf8mmljydrIR4O

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 really like the new logo (or better any of those owls). LieGrue, strub On Tuesday, 25 November 2014, 12:02, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote: +1 thx On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On 25 November

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Dan Rollo
+1 non-binding Dan From: Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot Date: November 25, 2014 at 9:43:41 AM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org +1 non-binding Cheers, Paul

Adapting checkstyle rules ?

2014-11-25 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Can one of you checkstyle gurus tell me how to disable the checkstyle rules that enforce bad practice ? I'm referring to the checkstyle meaningless javadoc required rule, how do I disable it permanently ? Preferably in the parent pom :) Kristian

Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what will we call it?

2014-11-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014, Jeroen Hoek jer...@lable.org wrote: I would recommend leaving it without a name. I think that the name Pandora's box is already open, I suspect in the absence of a concrete alternative, shotgun will be the name The mascot can help in providing Maven with a

Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what will we call it?

2014-11-25 Thread Paul Benedict
I really don't think we need to name the owl, do we? Are we just naming it for fun or is there a reason we want to? Cheers, Paul On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, November 25, 2014, Jeroen Hoek jer...@lable.org wrote: I

Re: [VOTE] Change project logo and adopt owl as mascot

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Osipov
-1 Am 2014-11-25 um 11:57 schrieb Stephen Connolly: For anyone who has been living under a rock, here is the background Background = I think everyone can agree that the site needs a reorganisation and a rewrite. Users cannot find what they need, and the end result is that people keep

Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what will we call it?

2014-11-25 Thread Matt Benson
From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term Maven. How about naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D Matt On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what will we call it?

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Osipov
Am 2014-11-25 um 20:56 schrieb Matt Benson: From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term Maven. How about naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D That was me and I still highly dislike the connection

Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what will we call it?

2014-11-25 Thread Matt Benson
How about a rabbinical owl? Matt On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Michael Osipov micha...@apache.org wrote: Am 2014-11-25 um 20:56 schrieb Matt Benson: From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term Maven. How about

Re: Abandoned bugs analysis

2014-11-25 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Hi Michael Unfortunatelly, I think that 2 years of inactivity is way to short time. I wish it wasn't so, but the reality is that the age of an issue is not a good indicator of whether the issue is valid or not. I think a better approach is to have joint bug scrub sessions, where we join forces

Re: Abandoned bugs analysis

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Osipov
Am 2014-11-24 um 23:05 schrieb Michael Osipov: Hi folks, I ran this query in JIRA: project in projectsWhereUserHasPermission(Administer Projects) AND updated = 2012-12-31 and resolution = Unresolved and type = Bug ORDER BY created desc Bugs which haven't been touched for almost two years.

Re: Abandoned bugs analysis

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Osipov
Am 2014-11-25 um 22:03 schrieb Dennis Lundberg: Hi Michael Unfortunatelly, I think that 2 years of inactivity is way to short time. I wish it wasn't so, but the reality is that the age of an issue is not a good indicator of whether the issue is valid or not. I think a better approach is to

Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what will we call it?

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Osipov
:-D that would either look funny or ridiculous but worth evaluating. Are you or is someone else able provide a rendering which a Jewish-looking owl? Woody Allen style, for example. Michael Am 2014-11-25 um 21:51 schrieb Matt Benson: How about a rabbinical owl? Matt On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at

Re: Abandoned bugs analysis

2014-11-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
I don't agree. This is a project, not a product and if no one looks at something for 2 years then no one cares. We are not erasing the issues and if someone does care enough to ask to reopen an issue then that's great. But I've tried to purge down the list to something manageable twice now and

Re: Abandoned bugs analysis

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Osipov
Thanks for the praise Jason. Highly appreciated. Am 2014-11-25 um 22:22 schrieb Jason van Zyl: I don't agree. This is a project, not a product and if no one looks at something for 2 years then no one cares. We are not erasing the issues and if someone does care enough to ask to reopen an issue

Re: Abandoned bugs analysis

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Osipov
One postive response from MECLIPSE-196: Perfectly happy this was closed, happy we're not using EARs any more. Can't wait to see new things coming from takari. Am 2014-11-25 um 22:22 schrieb Jason van Zyl: I don't agree. This is a project, not a product and if no one looks at something for 2

Re: Abandoned bugs analysis

2014-11-25 Thread Paul Benedict
We did this bug clean up before so this isn't new to me. However, I do wonder if the resolution Won't Fix rubs people the wrong way? Maybe if we had an Abandoned resolution that would sit better. Aside from reading the comments in the ticket, it's not possible to know what was closed truly because

Re: Abandoned bugs analysis

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Osipov
Am 2014-11-25 um 23:05 schrieb Paul Benedict: We did this bug clean up before so this isn't new to me. However, I do wonder if the resolution Won't Fix rubs people the wrong way? Maybe if we had an Abandoned resolution that would sit better. Aside from reading the comments in the ticket, it's

Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what will we call it?

2014-11-25 Thread Matt Benson
Heh, I don't draw anymore but it wouldn't seem that hard for a good cartoonist. Matt On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Michael Osipov micha...@apache.org wrote: :-D that would either look funny or ridiculous but worth evaluating. Are you or is someone else able provide a rendering which a

Re: Abandoned bugs analysis

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Graham
+1 for Abandoned or Archived. Won't Fix implies that some one has actually looked at it. -Chris Sent from my iPhone On 26/11/2014, at 9:05 AM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: We did this bug clean up before so this isn't new to me. However, I do wonder if the resolution Won't Fix

[LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-25 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
I created a branch in svn to test in my own browser https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/fluido/ and here is the mvn site result: http://people.apache.org/~hboutemy/site-fluido-owl/ HTH Regards, Hervé - To

Re: Adapting checkstyle rules ?

2014-11-25 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
the Maven Checkstyle coding style is written inside maven-checkstyle-plugin see svn [1] And when working on version 2.13, I created a dedicated component in Jira to track updates [2] Notice MCHECKSTYLE-257 to better document this for the next plugin version... Regards, Hervé [1]

Re: [LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-25 Thread Gary Gregory
Look great! Gary On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote: I created a branch in svn to test in my own browser https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/fluido/ and here is the mvn site result:

Re: Adapting checkstyle rules ?

2014-11-25 Thread Lennart Jörelid
Kristian, For simplicity, and the ability to re-use the checkstyle configuration in a multi-module reactor, I usually do this in two steps: 1. Create a codestyle project in the root level of your project. This codestyle project contains the configuration files for checkstyle where the