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poorly designed, badly documented, and not widely understood within
the community. I'm trying to improve some of the docs for toolchains,
but that only goes so far. There's a fundamental problem that
toolchains are
proach to cater to the diverse needs of the Java
> development community. By providing stability, compatibility, and extended
> support for legacy projects with Maven 3.10.x, and enabling compatibility
> with the latest Java features and development practices with Maven 4.0,
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> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:23 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
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> > >
> > > @Elliotte while you are pretty right in terms of *compile* fea
what happens
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> >> >> > > Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 8:16 AM
> >> >> > > [VOTE] Apache Maven Build Cache Extension 1.1.0
> >> >> > > Reproducible Build ok: reference build done on *nix with JDK 11
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 5:17 PM
> >> >> > > [VOTE] Release Maven Resolver 1.9.17
> >> >> > > Reproducible Build ok: reference build done with JDK 21 on *nix
> >> with
> >> >> > umask
> >> >> > > 022
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 4:34 PM
> >> >> > > VOTE] Apache Maven 4.0.0-alpha-8 release
> >> >> > > Reproducible Build ok: reference build done with JDK 21 on *nix
> >> with
> >> >> > umask
> >> >> > > 022
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 9:11 AM
> >> >> > > [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.9.5
> >> >> > > Reproducible not fully ok: reference build done with JDK 17 on *nix
> >> >> and
> >> >> > > umask 022
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This CLEARLY shows the tendency:
> >> >> > > - Michael does releases on Java 8 (on windows!), he is a known
> >> >> "aligner"
> >> >> > > and windows person :)
> >> >> > > - Olivier used the "minimum" required Java version (for build
> >> cache).
> >> >> > > - Unsure why Herve used Java 11 for the Shade plugin... I mean, he
> >> >> could
> >> >> > > use 21 but also 8, but he shot for 11 that was EOL at the moment of
> >> >> > release.
> >> >> > > - The rest is 21.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > So, the question for those refusing anything other than Java 8 to
> >> >> _run_
> >> >> > > Maven (or to revert: for those refusing to run Maven on "latest
> >> LTS",
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > > is currently 21):
> >> >> > > WHY?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks
> >> >> > > T
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version. It depends on the vendor. The dates on that page I spot
checked don't seem to match up with Oracle's announced dates, or that
of any other vendor I looked at.
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binaries shipped by third parties. It's a feasible option for
companies in the hundreds of billions of dollars range. For the rest
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eprecates 32 methods
and classes, changes the behavior of 5 other methods, and requires
them to recompile their code and update seven other dependencies.
Customers hate being pushed into new versions when they're not ready
to migrate or don't see any personal benefit from the "improvements"
ratic build tool. Or
all of the above. Whether that matters here, I don't know.
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themselves, that tend to run on stacks developed in house over more
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but Java 17 would be a non-starter. They might prefer to spend their
resources on a build tool they own, or maybe just not spend the dev
hours at all.
tldr: every uptick in version requirements bleeds that many more
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> On a related question, what should be the minimal Java version for
> *running* Maven 4? Keeping in mind that if Java 21 (for example) was
> required, users would still be able to compile for an older Java version
> using the --release option.
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a@v4". Internal server error occurred while
resolving "actions/upload-artifact@v4"
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> Is this still necessary? It seems likely to cause dependency conflicts
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what we have. After all, although
problems undoubtedly exist, it mostly works most of the time for most
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> site:https://maven.apache.org/plugins-archives/maven-javadoc-plugin-LATEST/
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s://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MRESOLVER%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%201.9.16
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> Maven 3.9.5:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MNG%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%203.9.5
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> So if anyone has anything more to add, bring it up!
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en't on parent POM 39. We have code
written to support entire operating systems that have been sold or
supported for years. Netware. Let's deal with that
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Should it be a
> wiki or a GitHub discussion page instead? (whatever is more convenient
> for developers involved in those parts of Maven).
>
The JIRA is the right place. I'm simply suggesting that this
discussion about transitive dependencies etc. take place there instead
of in the mailing list.
to
> handle each dependency.
How would this work with transitive dependencies?
Meta-point: it's easier to keep long term track of discussions like
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be arbitrarily complex structured objects. In XML
attributes are strings. There's a deep mismatch here that can't be
bridged in any sane way.
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>
> Maven wise, this happens:
> - Maven 3.9.x remains on resolver 1.9.x (and will also slowly go into
> "bugfix" mode)
> - Maven 4.x moves to resolver 2.0.0 (still must support Maven 3 plugins
> going directly for resolver)
> - Maven 5.x moves to resolver 3.0
uot; in the end times of the usenet.
>
> -h
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>
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 6:05 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
> wrote:
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> > Lately I've noticed a few random PRs from first time contributors that
> > use some automated refactoring tool on our
way.
I'm not sure what's going on here. Perhaps Maven is getting used as an
example in a training course or class somewhere. Perhaps someone is
evaluated on the number of Github PRs they create or get merged.
I'm inclined to close these without further comment. Thoughts?
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Maven's documentation is... Well, it is. That's about all I can say
for it. It's trivial to find parts that need work, anything from typo
fixes to rewrites from a blank page. Feel f
t; Staged site:
> https://maven.apache.org/ref/3-LATEST/
>
> Draft for release notes:
> https://github.com/apache/maven-site/pull/424
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> Staged site:
> https://maven.apache.org/ref/3-LATEST/
>
> Draft for release notes:
> https://github.com/apache/maven-site/pull/424
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, exclusions, and the Maven dependency resolution
algorithm. It's much worse for anyone who isn't hip deep in this muck
on a day-to-day basis. I worry this is going to cause a lot of tsuris
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organizations, and individuals, not just Oracle. It is an active
project with quarterly releases and many active committers:
https://wiki.openjdk.org/display/jdk8u/Main
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When there's some improvement we really can't make without updating to
Java 11 is when we should consider switching. So far I don't see any
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It occurs to me that not that long ago, Jira used to be open signup.
is there a specific reason it changed? Does that reason still apply?
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> At the moment, there is a hard work to maintain the CVEs and related
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> It would be great to put a CVE where it belongs… to the coordinate itself
>
I don't understand what you're
See https://github.com/apache/maven-gpg-plugin/pull/51
Verify / Verify / windows-latest jdk-8-temurin 3.9.2 (push) is broken
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The two bugs I'm sure of are not in resolver, but the third might be.
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> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:06 PM Jeremy Landis
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> > Without knowing more details myself, couple of possibilities come to mind...
> >
> > - Was key
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> here's my environment:
>
> ~/maven-fluido-skin$ mvn -version
> Apache Maven 3.8.7 (b89d5959fcde851dcb1c8946a785a163f14e1e29)
> Maven home: /opt/java/ap
> >
> > Staging site:
> > https://maven.apache.org/resolver-archives/resolver-LATEST/
> >
> > Guide to testing staged releases:
> > https://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
> >
> > Vote open for 72 hours.
> >
> &
f it's used at
all. It might not be. I'll look into that when I get a minute unless
someone gets there first.
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]org.hamcrest:hamcrest-core:jar:2.2:test
[WARNING]org.slf4j:slf4j-simple:jar:1.7.36:test
[INFO]
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> And on my personal and slightly more up to date MacBook mvn -Prun-its
> test reveals:
>
> [ERROR] E
:401 »
IllegalState java.io.IOException: Invalid keystore format
[INFO]
I don't have time to dig into this right now, but atm this is enough
for me to vote -1.
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> The weekly reminder that the world is not nearly as up to date
TEST/
>
> Guide to testing staged releases:
> https://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
>
> Vote open for 72 hours.
>
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -1
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as
dependencies with faster release cycles get updated several times
instead of just once.
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> śr., 19 kwi 2023 o 13:57 Elliotte Rusty Harold
> napisał(a):
>
> > -1
> >
> > I suggest merging #207 and the just fil
]org.eclipse.sisu:org.eclipse.sisu.plexus:jar:0.3.5:provided
[WARNING] Unused declared dependencies found:
[WARNING]org.apache.maven:maven-artifact:jar:3.2.5:provided
[WARNING]
org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugin-plugin:jar:3.8.3-SNAPSHOT:test
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> Staging site:
> https://maven.apache.org/components/plugin-tools-archives/plugin-tools-LATEST/
>
> Guide to testing staged releases:
> https://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
>
> Vote open for at least 72 hours.
>
&g
-plugin-tools/pull/208
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>
> Vote open for 72 hours.
>
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -1
>
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> For addi
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gt;
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
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>
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, 2023 at 1:35 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
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> > I've raised a new PR to re-deprecate StringUtils and inline it's usages:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/maven-resolver/pull/277
> >
> > Le mer. 5 avr. 2023 à 13:30, Elliotte Rusty Harold a
> > écr
.apache.org/resolver/api-compatibility.html#package-level-contracts
>
> T
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 1:13 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold
> wrote:
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> > I'm -1 on this release. I specifically disagree with the undeprecation
> > of
> > maven-resolver-util/src/main/java/or
I will do it in the
> 2nd half of next week.
>
> The 1.9.8 release should solve last "known issues" for Maven 3.9.x (azure
> and locking timeouts), so it will be followed by Maven 3.9.2 release.
>
> Thanks
> T
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ritical security vulnerability in
some logging framework or I/O package? Do we tell these users they
have to upgrade everything all at once to fix it?
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Not necessarily, but if so we need to clear it out, not waste people's
attention on this. Who can archive the repo and the issue tracker?
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 9:07 AM Michael Osipov wrote:
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> Am 2023-03-30 um 13:52 schrieb Elliotte Rusty Harold:
> > The maven-stage-plugin Jen
? Anyone know how to fix this?
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> but that has been added to Maven 4 API meanwhile and potentially can be
> easily added to plexus utils.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Konrad
>
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