Re: update service for not released languages [was: Re: Registration]

2013-04-04 Thread janI
On 4 April 2013 06:19, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Am Mittwoch, 3. April 2013 um 22:46 schrieb Rob Weir: On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 03/03/2013 janI wrote: On 3 March 2013 17:47, Andrea Pescetti wrote: 1)

Re: update service for not released languages [was: Re: Registration]

2013-04-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/4/13 8:26 AM, janI wrote: On 4 April 2013 06:19, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Am Mittwoch, 3. April 2013 um 22:46 schrieb Rob Weir: On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 03/03/2013 janI wrote: On 3 March 2013 17:47, Andrea

Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

2013-04-04 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 03.04.2013 00:37, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Andrew Rist wrote: What version of CentOS do we want on this machine? We want the snapshot builds to be fully usable. I'll write here the reasoning behind this, so that it can be corrected if needed. Ariel's special version available at

Where are the eastereggs

2013-04-04 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, Where are the eastereggs in OpenOffice.org ( 3.2.1) or Apache OpenOffice versions? Until version of OOo 3.2.1, there was eastereggs following: http://ooo42.de/ooo42-eastereggs.odt greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe,

Re: Where are the eastereggs

2013-04-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/4/13 10:28 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, Where are the eastereggs in OpenOffice.org ( 3.2.1) or Apache OpenOffice versions? Until version of OOo 3.2.1, there was eastereggs following: http://ooo42.de/ooo42-eastereggs.odt hopefully removed all but haven't checked this Juergen

Re: [RELEASE]: proposed schedule for AOO 4.0

2013-04-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/20/13 11:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/20/13 10:46 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, we make good progress with the sidebar work which is done on the branch. The sidebar will be the most visible and important change for 4.0 (by the way I like what I have seen so far). We come closer to

Re: Where are the eastereggs

2013-04-04 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Jürgen, *, From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] hopefully removed all but haven't checked this What do you mean exactly? Future there will be no more eastereggs? OK, eastereggs are a gimmick, but at least =Game(StarWars) I found quite nice. greetings, Jörg Note: I

Re : Re: [RELEASE]: proposed schedule for AOO 4.0

2013-04-04 Thread mengualjeanphi
Hi, Does some cycle exist about releasing of OOo? Because since the schedule, it seems that OOo 4.0 will not include current work about accessibility. It is a pitty as I think it is a major contribution and it would be a pitty if we should wait for end of 2014 to see it. It seems things could

Re: Where are the eastereggs

2013-04-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/4/13 11:18 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello Jürgen, *, From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] hopefully removed all but haven't checked this What do you mean exactly? Future there will be no more eastereggs? OK, eastereggs are a gimmick, but at least =Game(StarWars) I

Re: Re : Re: [RELEASE]: proposed schedule for AOO 4.0

2013-04-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/4/13 11:27 AM, mengualjean...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Does some cycle exist about releasing of OOo? Because since the schedule, it seems that OOo 4.0 will not include current work about accessibility. It is a pitty as I think it is a major contribution and it would be a pitty if we

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks, Rob, et al., On 13-04-03, at 22:22 , Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: One way of implementing this would be to look at all commits for the past 6 months (or 1 year?) and remove authorization on

[Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, in relation to our budget planning I asked myself if OpenOffice has any impact on the donations to the ASF? Well I don't know and we can probably figure this out but the question is what can we do ti collect more donations and use our brand more effective. When I look on our main website I

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:22:33 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, in relation to our budget planning I asked myself if OpenOffice has any impact on the donations to the ASF? Well I don't know and we can probably figure this out but the question is what can we do ti collect

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/4/13 2:46 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:22:33 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, in relation to our budget planning I asked myself if OpenOffice has any impact on the donations to the ASF? Well I don't know and we can probably figure this out but

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, in relation to our budget planning I asked myself if OpenOffice has any impact on the donations to the ASF? Well I don't know and we can probably figure this out but the question is what can we do ti collect more

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 04.04.13 14:22, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi, in relation to our budget planning I asked myself if OpenOffice has any impact on the donations to the ASF? Well I don't know and we can probably figure this out but the question is what can we do ti collect more donations and use our brand more

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: 2) The only possible solution would be an authz rule like suggested by Dave here; however, Infra quite discourages it, mainly for maintenance reasons. This leads me to think we would need some good justifications for

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread janI
On 4 April 2013 19:44, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: 2) The only possible solution would be an authz rule like suggested by Dave here; however, Infra quite discourages it, mainly for maintenance reasons.

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Greg Stein
Speaking as one of those old-hands, Dennis is absolutely spot-on. Partitions, barriers, sub-groups... I call those divisive mechanisms which serve to divide the community. Such divisions are rarely needed. As Andrea points out, in Subversion's 13 year history, we have only *requested* people

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Greg Stein
Also, let me say one more thing: This notion of creating divisions among committers ... it is solving a problem that has never occurred here. NEVER. OCCURRED. In the Foundations's 14+ year history, we have never seen a trojan commit. Our servers have been compromised a handful of times. When we

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Also, let me say one more thing: This notion of creating divisions among committers ... it is solving a problem that has never occurred here. NEVER. OCCURRED. So frickin' what? That is entirely irrelevant. My house has

tpcolor.cxx

2013-04-04 Thread jorge ivan poot diaz
Hello I've made changes to the module cui (tpcolor.cxx): http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/cui/source/tabpages/tpcolor.cxx#465 I want to know which modules should I build or explain me what modules are built by editing the file tpcolor.cxx and why? Regards.

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.orgwrote: If the problem is that there are abandoned Apache credentials out there for the taking, the solution is to deal with the inactive committers and revocation of those credentials. And to assume that some sudden

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
Sorry for talk posting. I get it now. If AOO is more secure than other Apache projects than this may give the impression that the other projects are less secure because they do not take these precautions. No project can be better than others since that implies some are worse. So any attempt to

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Greg Stein
Your proposal to alter the community structure is premised upon a strawman risk. First, that it would occur. Second, that it wouldn't be noticed. Third, that it would find its way into users' hands. In the past, the Foundation has *explicitly* said that we would accept a certain level of risk to

Re: [Lazy concensus] language merge into trunk.

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. Since we are now putting a lot of positive energy into 4.0, we have a lot of changes in trunk and at the same time I have made language changes in the l10n branch. This is a bad combination, that gives me quite some extra

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Greg Stein
Sarcasm accepted. Thank you. On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 02:54:41PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: Sorry for talk posting. I get it now. If AOO is more secure than other Apache projects than this may give the impression that the other projects are less secure because they do not take these precautions.

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Your proposal to alter the community structure is premised upon a strawman risk. First, that it would occur. Second, that it wouldn't be noticed. Third, that it would find its way into users' hands. So you are asserting that

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Hi, sorry for my top posting but I always fail to quote emails like this correct. It is no big thing here, the ASF had a pay pal account and people can donate whatever they want. We simply have to encourage people to do it and gave to make clear that donations are made for ASF and not only

Re: [RELEASE]: proposed schedule for AOO 4.0

2013-04-04 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2013 um 19:40 schrieb Kay Schenk: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 4/4/13 11:27 AM, mengualjean...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Does some cycle exist about releasing of OOo? Because since the schedule, it seems that OOo

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread janI
On 4 April 2013 21:03, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Your proposal to alter the community structure is premised upon a strawman risk. First, that it would occur. Second, that it wouldn't be noticed. Third, that it

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.orgwrote: OK, I will speak further. There are no such people among the current committers. It took *more* than being on the June 2011 proposal to become established as an initial committer. And you know that. There was

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Joe Schaefer
Ah NO.  Those so-called phantom committers had their commit to this projext revoked when you graduated to a TLP, but the larger point that Greg's making remains true- it is a false sense of security to rely on ACL's to pretend you don't need to vet your commit list.  See

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Ah NO. Those so-called phantom committers had their commit to this projext revoked when you graduated Hi Joe, See the list here: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice I've been tracking

RE: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
You're *still* understating the extent of the ceremony. They had to go through everything a subsequently-invited committer had to do, even though Sam Ruby provided the initial instructions. But thanks for mentioning the iCLA. That is an useful object to have on file in tracking down a

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.orgwrote: You're *still* understating the extent of the ceremony. They had to go through everything a subsequently-invited committer had to do, even though Sam Ruby provided the initial instructions. But thanks for

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/04/2013 04:29 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Am 04.04.13 14:22, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi, in relation to our budget planning I asked myself if OpenOffice has any impact on the donations to the ASF? Well I don't know and we can probably figure this out but the question is what can we do

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/04/2013 04:29 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Am 04.04.13 14:22, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi, in relation to our budget planning I asked myself if OpenOffice has any impact on the donations to the ASF? Well I

Re: Binfilter removal - PATCH

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Pavel Janík pa...@janik.cz wrote: Anyone against the lazy approach - ie. doing this on trunk directly? This could make testing much easier... +1 please do it on trunk ! It is already disabled by default when we build snapshots. I don't see any reason

Re: [Lazy concensus] language merge into trunk.

2013-04-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/04/2013 05:21 PM, schrieb janI: Hi. Since we are now putting a lot of positive energy into 4.0, we have a lot of changes in trunk and at the same time I have made language changes in the l10n branch. This is a bad combination, that gives me quite some extra manual work. Furthermore I

Re: Why can't I find open office 2.3 for mac osx 10.5.8 on the website?

2013-04-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/03/2013 11:52 PM, schrieb David Coldwell: version 3.0 files won't load into version 2.3 so I have to replace 3.0 with 2.3. If you are searching for older version of OpenOffice please have a look for our archive: en-US builds: http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/stable/

Re: [Website] Re-locate images from download/images/ to images/

2013-04-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/04/2013 11:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/01/2013 03:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi Rob, I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1

Re: [Website] Re-locate images from download/images/ to images/

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/01/2013 03:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi Rob, I want to

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 04.04.13 14:22, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: And opinions or further ideas how we can improve this? It shouldn't be a big problem for us to collect the money we need. I disagree. Yes, we can help with foundings for ASF, but please do this on ASF Level. Founding money is

Re: [Website] Re-locate images from download/images/ to images/

2013-04-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/05/2013 12:18 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/01/2013 03:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Joseph Schaefer
FWIW last time I checked there was a huge increase in paypal donations once OpenOffice adjusted it's contribution page accordingly. On Apr 4, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 04.04.13 14:22, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: And opinions or further

Easy hack for website

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
I just entered a BZ issue : https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122003 Missing title tag on many webpages If there are any new volunteers looking for how to get started, this is one easy way that does not require any programming. We need someone to review a bunch of HTML pages and

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Daniel Shahaf
You might want to talk to fundraising@ before you do anything --- not as much for permission as for ideas on how to frame the Please donate request. (fundraising@ is privately-archived) Joseph Schaefer wrote on Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 18:38:18 -0400: FWIW last time I checked there was a huge

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:17 PM, janI wrote: On 4 April 2013 21:03, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Your proposal to alter the community structure is premised upon a strawman risk. First, that it would occur. Second, that

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Dave Fisher
We can easily copy the Donate button from the footer to the topnav. We can request that l10n teams add a translated donate button for their language. If they haven't translated their brand and topnav now would a time to do so. We would want to translate the fundraising page, too. Is this a

Re: [Website] Re-locate images from download/images/ to images/

2013-04-04 Thread Dave Fisher
All image directories and img links can be discovered and converted in an offline checkout of the site. It could be automated. Different image files of the same name can be diffed. It is all discoverable. Doing it manually is a mess. I discovered this during the ooo-site port from Oracle's

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: We can easily copy the Donate button from the footer to the topnav. The pages are already so busy that making anything stand out is rather difficult. I'll give you an example. We (Samer and I) did an experiment with

Re: OpenOffice Cases of Success

2013-04-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 13-04-04, at 22:10 , Galileo Teco Juárez genital...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone with information on success stories of the suite for example: schools, governments.. en donde se utilice la suite This is old. It needs to be updated, but could still prove useful.

Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-04 Thread Samer Mansour
Hello Everyone, Can I propose we move forward with this logo: http://imagebin.org/252847 I kept the current official blue for both the logo and word 'Open' in the wordmark because the word 'Open' gets less emphasis with the lighter blue. I also gave the text Apache a placement inside the valley

Re: Why can't I find open office 2.3 for mac osx 10.5.8 on the website?

2013-04-04 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 04.04.13 23:40, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/03/2013 11:52 PM, schrieb David Coldwell: version 3.0 files won't load into version 2.3 so I have to replace 3.0 with 2.3. If you are searching for older version of OpenOffice please have a look for our archive: en-US builds: