Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed anything but OpenOffice: sudo yum install openoffice.org It doesn't. But indeed the openoffice.org alias has been discussed and I hope we can get it reassigned or dropped without invoking trademarks.

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed anything but OpenOffice: sudo yum install openoffice.org It doesn't. But indeed the openoffice.org alias has been discussed and I hope we can get it reassigned

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 02/06/2013 09:13 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 31/01/2013 Andrea Pescetti wrote: It got more coverage than needed, probably. It is just a proposal

RE: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread PETER ROMANO
CNET is doing a very good job of getting the word out... I received this link in an email I received today from CNET... http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-57566982-12/free-office-2013-alternatives/?tag=nl.e415s_cid=e415 Although they did not mention that AOO directly, they did mention

Re: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Libby
Hello. Mastercard sells a mixture of services from financial services, banking, as well as consumer data to other companies. They also have revenue streams off of POS (point of sale) transactions and interest payments from consumers and businesses. Creating a value statement for those who

Re: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org wrote: Hello Dave --great to hear from you, and with a wonderful subject :-) I'm happy to help, and can work with both Rob and Don (and whomever else would like to participate) on getting something formal out the door. Sally,

Re: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Sally Khudairi
Beautiful. Thanks so much, Roberto. This is hugely appreciated! Cheers chat soon, Sally   From: Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org Cc: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net; ASF Marketing

RE: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Hans Zybura
-Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:43 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; market...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: $21 million per day On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Yes, yes,

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: We should argue that the aliases came from OpenOffice and that they were hijacked if you want by LibreOffice. Fedora won't reassign aliases unless a default program is replaced (i.e., unless OpenOffice becomes a default program, which it won't in F19). Anyway the

Re: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Hans Zybura hzyb...@zybura.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:43 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; market...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: $21 million per day On Wed, Feb

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed anything but OpenOffice: sudo yum install openoffice.org It doesn't. But indeed the

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread janI
On 7 February 2013 13:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed anything but

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:26 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 7 February 2013 13:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: But I would have trademark

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread janI
On 7 February 2013 13:46, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:26 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 7 February 2013 13:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea

Re: Tutorial Impress

2013-02-07 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Jorge, jorge ivan poot diaz schrieb: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Tutorial_Impress I'm in this tutorial but my question is: 1. What will I do with the codes? The code is only an example and this special feature is implemented in the meantime. Therefore I have asked, whether you

BZ issues with patches

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
I noticed last night that we have a lot of open BZ issues with patches attached. This query shows nearly 500 of them:

Re: BZ issues with patches

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Is Pedro a commiter? If not, should we propose him as one? Yes, he is a committer. When a committer puts a patch into BZ it is essentially asking for a review-then-commit. That's fine. -Rob On 2/7/13, Rob Weir

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread RA Stehmann
Am 07.02.2013 13:26, schrieb janI: If it is so classic, then for sure the ASF laywers could inform Fedora about the problem, and ask them to correct it, independently of whether or not AOO is distribtuted. I assume that since they are the distributors they need to make sure that their

[Call-for-Review] code changes for more powerful smarttag extensions

2013-02-07 Thread Kai Labusch
Hi everyone, I'm a colleague of Robert Barbey at Acrolinx and I'm working on the OpenOffice Writer integration of our client-server text-processing solution. Currently, we already have a working writer extension that has been implemented in java and provides the functionality we need. For the

Re: [Call-for-Review] code changes for more powerful smarttag extensions

2013-02-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/7/13 5:08 PM, Kai Labusch wrote: Hi everyone, I'm a colleague of Robert Barbey at Acrolinx and I'm working on the OpenOffice Writer integration of our client-server text-processing solution. Currently, we already have a working writer extension that has been implemented in java and

RE: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Hans Zybura
-Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:14 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; hzyb...@zybura.com Subject: Re: $21 million per day On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Hans Zybura hzyb...@zybura.com wrote: -Original

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed anything but

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: We should argue that the aliases came from OpenOffice and that they were hijacked if you want by LibreOffice. They even used the package name in the past to install LibreOffice and not OpenOffice. We tolerated it

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:13:18PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Fedora will branch for Alpha on 2 Apr 2013: we must have something decently packaged by that time. At FOSDEM I met the Fedora people together with Herbert and Andre, so we already have some knowledge of the process. More

Open Office spreadsheet

2013-02-07 Thread David A Yablonsky Sr
I am, if not a spreadsheet power user, at least a spreadsheet developer, since 1982. Having experienced Visicalc, Multiplan, Lotus and Lotus clones, Quattro and Excel and others, I have come to the sad conclusion that spreadsheet applications have become overdeveloped due to the influence of

Re: Problem with the API forum

2013-02-07 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Yessica, On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 01:29:06PM -0300, Yessica Brinkmann wrote: Hello, Excuse me please write back by forum inadequate. But it's already doing 22 hours I sent emails to the API forum but no one answers, and I have not received any message from this other forum participants. I

java 7 patch

2013-02-07 Thread Fred Ollinger
To whom it may concern, Below is a patch to fix some java7 compilation bugs. Also, this is attached. Index: hsqldb/jdbcDriver.java === --- hsqldb.orig/jdbcDriver.java 2013-02-07 09:17:01.0 -0800 +++ hsqldb/jdbcDriver.java

Re: Will AOO write .docx?

2013-02-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 01/02/2013 David Gerard wrote: Is .docx writing scheduled for AOO any given time, 4.0 or later? I expect that sooner or later we will implement it. But, in order to avoid unnecessary duplication of work, we will want to take a look at what comes out of the OSB Alliance effort

Re: Problem with combobox associated macro

2013-02-07 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Yessica, Yessica Brinkmann schrieb: Thank you very much for your answer. Yes, I understand this. What I do not understand is why the ResultSet is empty. I used the same sentences as in my previous macro (ActualizarSaldoVentas), and the ResultSet that macro was not empty. You could help me a

vlc build error (may be associated with java7)

2013-02-07 Thread Fred Ollinger
= Building module vcl = Entering /mnt/lfs/sources/ubuntu/local_dev300/vcl/prj cd .. make -s -r -j1 [ build DEP ] LNK:Library/libvclplug_gtkli.so make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gcache.h', needed by

Re: Will AOO write .docx?

2013-02-07 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Andrea, Andrea Pescetti schrieb: On 01/02/2013 David Gerard wrote: Is .docx writing scheduled for AOO any given time, 4.0 or later? I expect that sooner or later we will implement it. But, in order to avoid unnecessary duplication of work, we will want to take a look at what comes out of

Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 29/01/2013 Andre Fischer wrote: I would like to ask you to either look at the mockups at [1] or try the developer builds [2] and tell me what color scheme you like best. We have two votes for A2 at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-progetto-it/201301.mbox/browser to which

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] It comes down to user confusion. We've already seen users confused by this, where they think they are installing OpenOffice and instead get something else. This is classic trademark infringement. You can't offer bottles of Coca-Cola for to

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Pavel Janík
In my opinion the problem is not only the problem with the trade mark (or the simple program-name) but also a public relations problem. I do not know the team of Feodora, but I know many people of LO / TDF and, let me be clear, _some_ (_not_ all) consider it well to cultivate a public

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, From: Pavel Janík [mailto:pa...@janik.cz] Is it LO who is infringing on our trademark or is it Fedora who is misusing our trademark for other project? I'm not sure how to understand this question. Please understand that I am not a developer and I do not understand the technical

Re: Problem with the API forum

2013-02-07 Thread Yessica Brinkmann
I understand, thank you very much. I really do not like the idea that my posts are modified by others, and that could mean, for example, something I did not say. Actually I did not receive any notification about this. Also I think if my messages are not understood, that I should be notified, for

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Pavel Janík wrote: Is it LO who is infringing on our trademark or is it Fedora who is misusing our trademark for other project? Shouldn't we notify Fedora people politely about this situation and let them (and help them!) solve the issue first? This part of the thread is derailing a bit

Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 29/01/2013 Andre Fischer wrote: I would like to ask you to either look at the mockups at [1] or try the developer builds [2] and tell me what color scheme you like best. We have two votes for A2 at

Any French Canadians to confirm this bug?

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
It is related to currency formatting: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121573 Thanks! -Rob

Re: Problem with the API forum

2013-02-07 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:57:13 -0300 Yessica Brinkmann yessica.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote: I understand, thank you very much. I really do not like the idea that my posts are modified by others, and that could mean, for example, something I did not say. Actually I did not receive any notification

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:13:18PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Fedora will branch for Alpha on 2 Apr 2013: we must have something decently packaged by that time. At FOSDEM I met the Fedora people together with Herbert and Andre, so we already have some knowledge

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Pavel Janík wrote: Is it LO who is infringing on our trademark or is it Fedora who is misusing our trademark for other project? Shouldn't we notify Fedora people politely about this situation and let them (and help

Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-07 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG 01 On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 29/01/2013 Andre Fischer wrote: I would like to ask you to either look at the mockups at [1] or try the developer builds [2] and tell me what

Re: lost files

2013-02-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Shirley Fabel srfa...@cccomm.net wrote: I had corrupt files on my computer and have had to have it stripped 3 times and reloaded. They could not put Microsoft Word back on (it came with the computer) and installed Open Office instead. I still had my files

Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=21_million_per_day Hoping to publish early next week. Regards, -Rob

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=21_million_per_day I should mention that the chart was developed by volunteers on the marketing list, a team effort collecting and transcribing the data and great work by Samer

Re: [bikeshed] I like blue titles.

2013-02-07 Thread Kevin Grignon
If I understand correctly, the goal is to emphasize the message and links to drive action. Robs suggestion to create a compelling graphic makes sense. Beyond font colour, we can use more info design and visual design to call attention to the message. Regards, Kevin On Feb 2, 2013, at

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Tanja Meece
Dear Rob, That is an awesome blog. Until, people read it they won't truly be aware of Apache, Open Office or how important and widespread the software really is. I would like to put a link to the blog post, in a blog I'm in the process of writing, if you will allow me. Tanja Meece TMCM On Feb 7,

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Tanja Meece tanjamichelleme...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Rob, That is an awesome blog. Until, people read it they won't truly be aware of Apache, Open Office or how important and widespread the software really is. I would like to put a link to the blog post, in a

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Donald Whytock
oer country - per country Aside from that...do you need TMs or acknowledgments for referencing Microsoft, its products by name, and the contents of its website? Don

Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG 01 On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 29/01/2013 Andre Fischer wrote: I would like to ask you to

Re: Tutorial Client

2013-02-07 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 06:54:46PM -0600, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote: Hello, I'm working on this tutorial: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Tutorial_Client These tutorials are rather old, simply look at the date in the diffs (2005)! I doubt the code will even match the current trunk, besides

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: oer country - per country Got it. Thanks. Aside from that...do you need TMs or acknowledgments for referencing Microsoft, its products by name, and the contents of its website? They list their trademarks here:

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Donald Whytock
Looking at the map...That grey piece on the end of Somalia is, as far as I know, part of Somalia. Beyond that, there's apparently only two countries of significant size for which you don't have nonzero figures for? Serious saturation, that. Comment-worthy? Don

AOO on the Cloud

2013-02-07 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi I believe that everyone should have read or used the service Google Drive [0], and also has other alternatives like Zoho [1]. 0 - google.com/drive 1 - zoho.com I don't remember having read or seen in the historical list that suggestion. The idea would be to create a package in cloud

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the map...That grey piece on the end of Somalia is, as far as I know, part of Somalia. Beyond that, there's apparently only two http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somaliland ?? countries of significant size for

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Yue Helen
Just read it. A great blog! and I'm proud of our work here. Helen 2013/2/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the map...That grey piece on the end of Somalia is, as far as I know, part of Somalia. Beyond that,

Re: AOO on the Cloud

2013-02-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto bin...@apache.orgwrote: A suggestion for the future of Apache OpenOffice. :-) -- Albino Biasutti Neto Software Livre | Open Source | Free Software albino.ws ... @bino28 no identi.ca ~bino28 -- s.apache.org/zKb

Re: Presentation templates for ApacheCon NA 2013

2013-02-07 Thread Shenfeng Liu
I talked to Xin Li, who was the template designer of 2012 ApacheCon EU. She kindly agreed to think about the template. But the problem is that next week is Chinese Spring Festival Holidays, and Xin may not able to work on it till Feb 16. Considering that we don't have much time left, I'd like to

Re: Problem with the API forum

2013-02-07 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 02/07/2013 04:57 PM, Yessica Brinkmann wrote: I understand, thank you very much. I really do not like the idea that my posts are modified by others, and that could mean, for example, something A message that is moderated means that a person with the moderator role looked at the message

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-07 Thread Sally Khudairi
Thank you, Rob. This is great. I'm happy to support this with a tweet from @TheASF as well as send to our dedicated media/analyst list. Keep up the great work! -Sally [From the mobile; kindly excuse spelling/spacing/auto-correct anomalies] - Reply message - From: Rob Weir

Re: Presentation templates for ApacheCon NA 2013

2013-02-07 Thread Steve Holden
Shenfeng: Thank you very much. I think given the season the Chinese contingent can be said to have fulfilled its obligations. I trust you will all have a very joyous Spring Festival. If any volunteer reading this wishes to approach the task, please get in touch. regards Steve On Feb 7,

Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-07 Thread Shenfeng Liu
2013/2/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG 01 On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 29/01/2013 Andre

Re: Presentation templates for ApacheCon NA 2013

2013-02-07 Thread Saransh Sharma
Count me in I love designing ...so tell me where to start ...bytheway i am an designer On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: Shenfeng: Thank you very much. I think given the season the Chinese contingent can be said to have fulfilled its obligations. I

Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?

2013-02-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 05/02/2013 Rob Weir wrote: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. ... Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an

Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-07 Thread Samer Mansour
I like 2A, 2B, 1B in that order. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/2/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG 01 On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Rob Weir

Re: An idea: Add option to delete profile when uninstalling

2013-02-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 01/02/2013 Tanja Meece wrote: I so agree with option of being able to remove your profile while deleting, that is a suggestion worth listening to. This is a very good idea indeed. As discussed at FOSDEM (yes, we had plenty of technical discussions there!) there is a technical issue in