Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Peter Kovacs
Our best recruitment base is our user base. The more we use them the tighter the link between user and developer gets, the more probable it is we get people. Community feeling is a strong motivator for doing the right thing. And people we have, we lack imho skill. And this we need to build. We

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 19/05/2017 à 13:04, esh1907 a écrit : IMHO good idea. Our suite should have a "Report a Bug" in Help menu under "About OpenOffice". I don't think such option would be first very visible and second very used. The average user shouldn't reach a cumbersome platform like Bugzilla to report a

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Marcus
Am 20.05.2017 um 06:23 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] absolutely, we need volunteers that would then work on these bug reports. Assumed they *are* valid bugs and not "how can I do this and that" questions. ;-) yes, right, but that's not what I mean.

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread esh1907
I can give it a try (please bear in mind I read here out of curiosity, I'm not a developer). On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Marcus wrote: > @esh1907: > Are you ready to actually help here? > > Marcus > > >

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 20/05/2017 à 06:23, Jörg Schmidt a écrit : (a) We do not have enough developers (ok, we have to see what the future brings) Well, that's the key point I guess. (b) The existing developers work voluntarily and do what they want - how do we get them to fix _specific_ bugs? Please understand

Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))

2017-05-20 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Jim, That is alright with me... ...if we start working on a 4.2.0 branch as soon as possible! ;-) Regards, Matthias Am 17.05.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Jim Jagielski: > My plan is to hold off on accepting this... > >> On May 3, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Marcus wrote: >> >> Am

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread esh1907
Many companies were affected in the recent cyber attack. It shouldn't be hard to find a company sick of Microsoft... Why not Deutsche Bahn or Renault for example? On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > The only one I would see is Canonical. But i still

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread esh1907
About the locate (from the wayback machine): https://web.archive.org/web/20040610062016/http://projects.openoffice.org:80/accepted.html About the convince: IMHO a personal meeting with a German volunteer is best. On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > If you

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi all Am .05.2017, 16:32 Uhr, schrieb esh1907 : Maybe we should try to locate and convince people who used to work during Star and Sun Microsystems to rejoin the project? I think this is the wrong way to go. We can't get the good old time back. What we need is fresh

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 20/05/2017 à 12:10, Peter Kovacs a écrit : Our best recruitment base is our user base. The more we use them the tighter the link between user and developer gets, the more probable it is we get people. Community feeling is a strong motivator for doing the right thing. Well, remember that the

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread esh1907
Maybe we should try to locate and convince people who used to work during Star and Sun Microsystems to rejoin the project? Perhaps instead of votes users can offer monetary compensation for solving bugs (many users offering a tiny sum each can result in a reasonable incentive)? What about merging

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 5/20/2017 7:32 AM, esh1907 wrote: Maybe we should try to locate and convince people who used to work during Star and Sun Microsystems to rejoin the project? If you can see a way to make this happen, it would be very helpful. Even having someone familiar with the source code available as a

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 20/05/2017 à 18:07, Raphael Bircher a écrit : But companies don't com just to put money in, they want something back (normally). SUN and IBM was a big exception. The point is, we are not attractive for Companies at the moment. There is no room to make money. We should start getting

Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))

2017-05-20 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am .05.2017, 12:30 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi Jim, That is alright with me... ...if we start working on a 4.2.0 branch as soon as possible! ;-) Regards, Matthias Am 17.05.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Jim Jagielski: My plan is to hold off on accepting this...

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am .05.2017, 19:15 Uhr, schrieb Hagar Delest : Le 20/05/2017 à 18:07, Raphael Bircher a écrit : But companies don't com just to put money in, they want something back (normally). SUN and IBM was a big exception. The point is, we are not attractive for Companies at

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Patricia Am .05.2017, 22:04 Uhr, schrieb Patricia Shanahan : On 5/20/2017 9:07 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi all Am .05.2017, 16:32 Uhr, schrieb esh1907 : Maybe we should try to locate and convince people who used to work during Star and Sun

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 5/20/2017 1:43 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi Patricia Am .05.2017, 22:04 Uhr, schrieb Patricia Shanahan : ... A retired Sun or StarOffice person who understands how the code is put together could save me a lot of time. My current low level objective is to find where to put a

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > > Hi Patricia > > Am .05.2017, 22:04 Uhr, schrieb Patricia Shanahan : > >> On 5/20/2017 9:07 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> Am .05.2017, 16:32 Uhr, schrieb

Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 5/20/2017 9:07 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi all Am .05.2017, 16:32 Uhr, schrieb esh1907 : Maybe we should try to locate and convince people who used to work during Star and Sun Microsystems to rejoin the project? I think this is the wrong way to go. We can't get the