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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-12 Thread Mathias Röllig


Hello Peter!


I thought about this a little. I think to mix up both behaviours is not
simple anymore for users. I dislike the implicity of the approach. For a
new user it is not transperent that OpenOffice will take the recent
document into account.


Hmm. Have you ever used the URL field? Since it is hidden per default I 
think that most users don't know what they could do with this.


There would be no new mixup. If you click at the arrow of the dropdown 
box you get a long history. But If you write inside the URL bar you will 
get (only) autocomplete results for your file system – but for this you 
must type the complete path. If you type something that not begins with 
a path/URL identifier you get nothing. And at this point AOO should 
simply look into the history what filenames matches with this input.




what I could imagine would be a virtual folder Recent documents, that
would contain a list with all entries from recent document List. You can
work with this folder and search as you are used to.


Why? This list exists inside the URL field!

Regards, Mathias

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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-11 Thread Peter Kovacs

Okay, thats a shame. The Extension is as Pedro claims taken down.

There is a reported working link in Bugzilla. The Bug is about getting a
access to the wiki...

I deleted the mail by accident, and I dont know which one it is ...

sorry. Maybe later I check the online Archive.

On 11.02.2017 13:11, Peter Kovacs wrote:

you have a newer Version then this one?
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/HistoryMaster

At least thats what I linked into the Wiki.

I am not sure about the extension. It is not configurable. I think the
most important point is the config Option.

But it could be a starting point.

On 11.02.2017 12:53, Pedro wrote:

On 11/02/2017 11:09, Mechtilde wrote:

For your information:

there is an add-on for this behaviour already.

In fact the History Master extension (which is no longer available
for download because it was hosted on a personal page) does many of
the actions requested in this thread.

The question is: shouldn't the features included in History Master be
incorporated into AOO?

Pedro

P.S. Here is a link to the latest (final?) version stored by me in
Owncloud

https://cloud.openmailbox.org/index.php/s/hqsqmWF9GBzHUdq

Am 11.02.2017 um 05:26 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Okay, I opened up a "meta" bug, which gives me an Overview of what
there is to do on the Recent Document side open. It contains our
Ideas, plus Stuff I have found on Bugzilla.

If you go thruogh the points, I think Recent Document List has much
potential for Improvement.

127321

On 10.02.2017 21:36, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Peter,

I think the number of entrys should be configurable in the settings.

I also often move my files after editing.
When I click on the list of recently opened files most of them are
not

accessible any more.
A way to delete them separately from the list would be good!
At the moment only the whole list can be deleted.

Regards, Matthias

Am 10.02.2017 um 21:25 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hello all,

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/I_need_to_see_more_than_the_default_4_items_on_the_list_of_recently_opened_files._How_do_I_achieve_this%3F

Offers a way to manipulate the amount of entries that are shown
under

the Menu Files - > recently opened files.

I cant find the Common.xcu in my user folder.

So how it is done nowadays?

Shouldnt we add the option to the menu. It sounds so simple.

All the best

Peter

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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-11 Thread Peter Kovacs

you have a newer Version then this one?
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/HistoryMaster

At least thats what I linked into the Wiki.

I am not sure about the extension. It is not configurable. I think the
most important point is the config Option.

But it could be a starting point.

On 11.02.2017 12:53, Pedro wrote:

On 11/02/2017 11:09, Mechtilde wrote:

For your information:

there is an add-on for this behaviour already.

In fact the History Master extension (which is no longer available for
download because it was hosted on a personal page) does many of the
actions requested in this thread.

The question is: shouldn't the features included in History Master be
incorporated into AOO?

Pedro

P.S. Here is a link to the latest (final?) version stored by me in
Owncloud

https://cloud.openmailbox.org/index.php/s/hqsqmWF9GBzHUdq

Am 11.02.2017 um 05:26 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Okay, I opened up a "meta" bug, which gives me an Overview of what
there is to do on the Recent Document side open. It contains our
Ideas, plus Stuff I have found on Bugzilla.

If you go thruogh the points, I think Recent Document List has much
potential for Improvement.

127321

On 10.02.2017 21:36, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Peter,

I think the number of entrys should be configurable in the settings.

I also often move my files after editing.
When I click on the list of recently opened files most of them are not
accessible any more.
A way to delete them separately from the list would be good!
At the moment only the whole list can be deleted.

Regards, Matthias

Am 10.02.2017 um 21:25 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hello all,

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/I_need_to_see_more_than_the_default_4_items_on_the_list_of_recently_opened_files._How_do_I_achieve_this%3F

Offers a way to manipulate the amount of entries that are shown under
the Menu Files - > recently opened files.

I cant find the Common.xcu in my user folder.

So how it is done nowadays?

Shouldnt we add the option to the menu. It sounds so simple.

All the best

Peter

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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-11 Thread Pedro

On 11/02/2017 11:09, Mechtilde wrote:

For your information:

there is an add-on for this behaviour already.

In fact the History Master extension (which is no longer available for
download because it was hosted on a personal page) does many of the
actions requested in this thread.

The question is: shouldn't the features included in History Master be
incorporated into AOO?

Pedro

P.S. Here is a link to the latest (final?) version stored by me in Owncloud
https://cloud.openmailbox.org/index.php/s/hqsqmWF9GBzHUdq

Am 11.02.2017 um 05:26 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Okay, I opened up a "meta" bug, which gives me an Overview of what
there is to do on the Recent Document side open. It contains our
Ideas, plus Stuff I have found on Bugzilla.

If you go thruogh the points, I think Recent Document List has much
potential for Improvement.

127321

On 10.02.2017 21:36, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Peter,

I think the number of entrys should be configurable in the settings.

Regards, Matthias

Am 10.02.2017 um 21:25 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hello all,

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/I_need_to_see_more_than_the_default_4_items_on_the_list_of_recently_opened_files._How_do_I_achieve_this%3F

Offers a way to manipulate the amount of entries that are shown under
the Menu Files - > recently opened files.

I cant find the Common.xcu in my user folder.

So how it is done nowadays?

Shouldnt we add the option to the menu. It sounds so simple.

All the best

Peter

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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-11 Thread Mechtilde

For your information:

there is an add-on for this behaviour already.

Regards

Mechtilde

Am 11.02.2017 um 05:26 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> Okay, I opened up a "meta" bug, which gives me an Overview of what
> there is to do on the Recent Document side open. It contains our
> Ideas, plus Stuff I have found on Bugzilla.
>
> If you go thruogh the points, I think Recent Document List has much
> potential for Improvement.
>
> 127321 
>
>
>
>
> On 10.02.2017 21:36, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> I think the number of entrys should be configurable in the settings.
>>
>> I also often move my files after editing.
>> When I click on the list of recently opened files most of them are not
>> accessible any more.
>> A way to delete them separately from the list would be good!
>> At the moment only the whole list can be deleted.
>>
>> Regards, Matthias
>>
>>
>> Am 10.02.2017 um 21:25 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/I_need_to_see_more_than_the_default_4_items_on_the_list_of_recently_opened_files._How_do_I_achieve_this%3F
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Offers a way to manipulate the amount of entries that are shown under
>>> the Menu Files - > recently opened files.
>>>
>>> I cant find the Common.xcu in my user folder.
>>>
>>> So how it is done nowadays?
>>>
>>> Shouldnt we add the option to the menu. It sounds so simple.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-11 Thread Pedro


Hi Peter, all

However that is then not part of the recent Document list rework 
anymore, but an overhaul of the Open Item, where we also have to think 
about cloud working as you have pointed out.


Yes, please!
It is absurd that OpenOffice has been able to open documents in the 
cloud for a long time but this feature is not know (and therefore not 
used) by the users.


My 2 cents
Pedro

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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-11 Thread Peter Kovacs


Hello Matthias!

I thought about this a little. I think to mix up both behaviours is not 
simple anymore for users. I dislike the implicity of the approach. For a 
new user it is not transperent that OpenOffice will take the recent 
document into account.

I think we should stick with a transparent approach.

what I could imagine would be a virtual folder Recent documents, that 
would contain a list with all entries from recent document List. You can 
work with this folder and search as you are used to.
However that is then not part of the recent Document list rework 
anymore, but an overhaul of the Open Item, where we also have to think 
about cloud working as you have pointed out.

So I would not like to mix both topics, even if they are related.


All the best.
Peter


On 11.02.2017 10:11, Mathias Röllig wrote:
Not really. In a Linux/Unix system a path always begins with / (in 
Windows with :\).


So my proposal is:

1. The behaviour of now (leave it unchanged):¹
If one type the beginning of a path → autocompletion.
Please consider that you can change the offer with cursor up/down.
Example: If you write »/D« AOO completes to »/Documents« 
with »ocuments« highlighted. Press [↓] it will change to 
»/Downloads« with »ownloads« highlighted. Or open ([Alt]+[↓]) 
the dropdown list with the matching paths/filenames.
Select the desired folder with [↓]/[↑] and press [→]. Repeat until you 
have selected the right file and press [Enter].



2.  Additional(!) behaviour (wish):
If one type the beginning of a filename (without any path 
identification) /then/ there should open a dropdown with the matching 
/filenames/ from the history.

Example: If you write »m« open a list with
|/minions.odt
|/minions2.ods
|/my file1.odt
|[…] aso.
With the next letter the search will refined.
With [↓]/[↑] one can go through the list and press [Enter] for the 
selected entry. Or simply click on it with the mouse cursor.



Number 1 works (as I know) only for the file system.
Number 2 respects all protocols (http, ftp, …) you have used and which 
are in the history.



Regards, Mathias
¹ At the moment there seems to be a bug.
If one types the beginning of a path and one afterward delete this 
input, the history doesn't come back – there stays the list with the 
matching paths/files.


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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-11 Thread Mathias Röllig


Hello Peter!


Thanks for your Brainstorm.
I checked and if you select an Open Document option, and start to type a
recent document its already autocompleting.


Yes. But this autocompleteing works at your file system (this is good!) 
but not for the history.




You are suggesting to replace it with a dropdown that shows a filtered
recent Document list?
Is this what you are suggesting?


Not really. In a Linux/Unix system a path always begins with / (in 
Windows with :\).

So my proposal is:

1. The behaviour of now (leave it unchanged):¹
If one type the beginning of a path → autocompletion.
Please consider that you can change the offer with cursor up/down.
Example: If you write »/D« AOO completes to »/Documents« 
with »ocuments« highlighted. Press [↓] it will change to 
»/Downloads« with »ownloads« highlighted. Or open ([Alt]+[↓]) the 
dropdown list with the matching paths/filenames.
Select the desired folder with [↓]/[↑] and press [→]. Repeat until you 
have selected the right file and press [Enter].



2.  Additional(!) behaviour (wish):
If one type the beginning of a filename (without any path 
identification) /then/ there should open a dropdown with the matching 
/filenames/ from the history.

Example: If you write »m« open a list with
|/minions.odt
|/minions2.ods
|/my file1.odt
|[…] aso.
With the next letter the search will refined.
With [↓]/[↑] one can go through the list and press [Enter] for the 
selected entry. Or simply click on it with the mouse cursor.



Number 1 works (as I know) only for the file system.
Number 2 respects all protocols (http, ftp, …) you have used and which 
are in the history.



Regards, Mathias
¹ At the moment there seems to be a bug.
If one types the beginning of a path and one afterward delete this 
input, the history doesn't come back – there stays the list with the 
matching paths/files.


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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-10 Thread Peter Kovacs


Hi Matthias,

Thanks for your Brainstorm.
I checked and if you select an Open Document option, and start to type a 
recent document its already autocompleting.


You are suggesting to replace it with a dropdown that shows a filtered 
recent Document list?

Is this what you are suggesting?

All the best
Peter


On 10.02.2017 23:42, Mathias Röllig wrote:

Hello!


I think the number of entrys should be configurable in the settings.


If you thinking in this direction I have also a suggestion.

I have the “Load URL” field visible inside the Standard tool bar. This 
have many advantages:

1. A very longer history.
2. AutoCompletion for URLs. (directories/file)
3. Because under Ubuntu it is impossible to open files by dragging it 
from the file manager to the title bar (like under Windows), I can 
drag the file to the URL field and hit [Enter].


But I have a wish for this:
It would be very(!) nice if I could begin to write a filename and the 
URL field would suggest/list the hits in the history.




I also often move my files after editing.
When I click on the list of recently opened files most of them are not
accessible any more.


For the URL field I wish it like in firefox:
scroll to the desired entry and press ([Shift]+)[Del].

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Deleting_autocomplete_entries

Regards, Mathias

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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-10 Thread Peter Kovacs

Okay, I opened up a "meta" bug, which gives me an Overview of what there 
is to do on the Recent Document side open. It contains our Ideas, plus 
Stuff I have found on Bugzilla.


If you go thruogh the points, I think Recent Document List has much 
potential for Improvement.


127321 




On 10.02.2017 21:36, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Peter,

I think the number of entrys should be configurable in the settings.

I also often move my files after editing.
When I click on the list of recently opened files most of them are not
accessible any more.
A way to delete them separately from the list would be good!
At the moment only the whole list can be deleted.

Regards, Matthias


Am 10.02.2017 um 21:25 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hello all,

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/I_need_to_see_more_than_the_default_4_items_on_the_list_of_recently_opened_files._How_do_I_achieve_this%3F


Offers a way to manipulate the amount of entries that are shown under
the Menu Files - > recently opened files.

I cant find the Common.xcu in my user folder.

So how it is done nowadays?

Shouldnt we add the option to the menu. It sounds so simple.


All the best

Peter


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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-10 Thread Mathias Röllig


Hello!


I think the number of entrys should be configurable in the settings.


If you thinking in this direction I have also a suggestion.

I have the “Load URL” field visible inside the Standard tool bar. This 
have many advantages:

1. A very longer history.
2. AutoCompletion for URLs. (directories/file)
3. Because under Ubuntu it is impossible to open files by dragging it 
from the file manager to the title bar (like under Windows), I can drag 
the file to the URL field and hit [Enter].


But I have a wish for this:
It would be very(!) nice if I could begin to write a filename and the 
URL field would suggest/list the hits in the history.




I also often move my files after editing.
When I click on the list of recently opened files most of them are not
accessible any more.


For the URL field I wish it like in firefox:
scroll to the desired entry and press ([Shift]+)[Del].

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Deleting_autocomplete_entries

Regards, Mathias

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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-10 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Peter,

I think the number of entrys should be configurable in the settings.

I also often move my files after editing.
When I click on the list of recently opened files most of them are not
accessible any more.
A way to delete them separately from the list would be good!
At the moment only the whole list can be deleted.

Regards, Matthias


Am 10.02.2017 um 21:25 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> Hello all,
>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/I_need_to_see_more_than_the_default_4_items_on_the_list_of_recently_opened_files._How_do_I_achieve_this%3F
>
>
> Offers a way to manipulate the amount of entries that are shown under
> the Menu Files - > recently opened files.
>
> I cant find the Common.xcu in my user folder.
>
> So how it is done nowadays?
>
> Shouldnt we add the option to the menu. It sounds so simple.
>
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
>
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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-10 Thread Max Merbald


Hello all,


I think it would be a good idea to add that option. A list of only 10 
recently opened files, that's too few.



Max



Am 10.02.2017 um 21:25 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Hello all,

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/I_need_to_see_more_than_the_default_4_items_on_the_list_of_recently_opened_files._How_do_I_achieve_this%3F 



Offers a way to manipulate the amount of entries that are shown under 
the Menu Files - > recently opened files.


I cant find the Common.xcu in my user folder.

So how it is done nowadays?

Shouldnt we add the option to the menu. It sounds so simple.


All the best

Peter


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