Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] krud? + X]

2002-02-06 Thread Darrell May
Damien Curtain [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And thats going well... At least they tried. No one else has done better. Im not sure how in touch people here are with kernel development, because I wouldnt be rushing to stick the latest and greatest 2.4 kernel on any machine other than crash and

[e-smith-devinfo] External Proxy Usage

2002-02-06 Thread Brandon Friedman
In the console, it allows you to set-up a external proxy at your ISP? This could be used for content filtering right? If of course that is what your ISP proxy is doing? I see that there are other subscription services available like this. Some require you to log on with a username and password.

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] krud? + X]

2002-02-06 Thread Brandon Friedman
Damien Curtain [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And thats going well... At least they tried. No one else has done better. What has happened to axonlinux? -- Regards Brandon Friedman Product Manager Tech-Knowledgy Advantage Ph: +27 (011) 486-0626 Fax: +27 (011) 486-0629 Cell: +27 (083) 408-7840

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] krud? + X]

2002-02-06 Thread Les Mikesell
I haven't had much trouble with Mandrake 8.1 systems other than their update system not being able to automatically install their kernel update. The things you get with it are built-in support for installing on raid, with or without LFS and all of the journal file systems, automatic device

[e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Scott
Any news on a file etc to fix the DHCP issue with v5.1.2. Or shall I just go back to v5.0.3 Scott -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe,

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Emergency restore options

2002-02-06 Thread Dan Brown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From: Rob Hillis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:32, Dan Brown wrote: Also, unless I'm pretty far off base, it shouldn't take much tinkering to be able to restore a non-RAID system to a RAID one, or Wouldn't that

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Emergency restore options

2002-02-06 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
If you'd like a commercial solution, check out Backup-Edge from Microlite. I believe they are located at www.microlite.com Scott -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo]krud? + X]

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Brandon Friedman wrote: Damien Curtain [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And thats going well... At least they tried. No one else has done better. What has happened to axonlinux? Disappeared without a trace. -- Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Darrell May wrote: If we take axonlinux as a project that has travelled this path already, they built a new distro iso. To be very brief they essentially took a disto (SGI XFS) and added all the e-smith rpms that the distro did not include by default. After that

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] dmc-mitel-service-control rpm available

2002-02-06 Thread Greg Zartman
I've installed this on our production system and it is a very good add- on. Works like a champ!! Regards, -- Greg J. Zartman, P.E. Vice-President Logging Engineering International, Inc. 1243 West 7th Avenue Eugene, Oregon 97402 541-683-8383fax 541-683-8144 -- Please report bugs to

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Charlie Brady wrote: So you are suggesting a project fork. That's a lot of work, and fragments the community. So you should have very good justification for proposing is. Sorry - for proposing it. To put it another way, what's wrong with this scenario? I don't like

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Dan York
Scott, Any news on a file etc to fix the DHCP issue with v5.1.2. *What* DHCP issue with 5.1.2? I haven't heard of any and don't believe any bugs have been reported on that. There *was* an issue reported here on the list, but it turned out to be a situation where someone had installed Filippo

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] krud? + X

2002-02-06 Thread Dan York
Greg, 1) Some time back one of the devinfo folks supplied a link to an article detailing an sys-admins view of the 2.4 linux kernel. He put forward a really good argument against switching. I'm not proposing abandoning the idea of a newer kernel, just pointing out some food for thought.

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Dan York wrote: Any news on a file etc to fix the DHCP issue with v5.1.2. *What* DHCP issue with 5.1.2? I haven't heard of any and don't believe any bugs have been reported on that. Sorry to contradict you Dan, but Scott has reported a problem and it is being

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Dan York
Scott, Any news on a file etc to fix the DHCP issue with v5.1.2. My apologies... I was plowing through e-mail and responded without fully investigating the matter. It does appear there is an open issue (reported by you) that is being investigated. That is all I know at the moment. Regards,

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Greg Zartman
started to have problems. Could it be Windows XP wierdness? Charlie, We've been running a single XP Pro workstation here in our office for some time with no problems. Our production system is still running SME 5.0. Regards, -- Greg J. Zartman, P.E. Vice-President Logging Engineering

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Greg Zartman wrote: We've been running a single XP Pro workstation here in our office for some time with no problems. Our production system is still running SME 5.0. I don't believe that there are any DHCP differences between 5.0 and 5.1.2. -- Charlie Brady

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Noah Genner
Guys, I had what I would assume is the same problem when I upgraded from 4.X to 5.0 and never got it solved. I never reported it as a bug. (Sigh, I know a slap on the wrist) Looking through the message boards on e-smith.org it has been noticed by a few people besides Scott and me. Not

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread phm1a
Just to put in my $0.02 worth (heavily over-valued actually), I've been happy with the direction so far. opinion I have always seen this server as the Swiss Army Buzzsaw of Linux distributions, and really enjoy the ability to do the add, subtract, modify, delete routine for any and all

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Noah Genner
Charlie, Me as well. My XP machines are getting dynamically assigned IP's from my SME 5.0 server in the office, but not from my 5.0 server at home. In fact no Windoze boxes are getting DHCPd IP's from the server at my home, while all are in the office. Noah -Original Message-

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Filippo Carletti
I had a small problem with DHCP on SME5, but on an unsupported configuration, so I didn't file a bug report. I had two internal lans and two intenal nics, I wanted to offer dhcp service to both. dhcp-2 never worked, as soon as I installed dhcp-3 it worked without any change to config files.

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] reinstallation disk errors

2002-02-06 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
Darrell You are correct. A fresh install fits on the floppy, but a lively production system generates more data than the boot disk can handle. There is only about 5K of free space on the normal boot disk and it doesn't take long to chew that up. If the entire configuration file (or substantial

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Noah Genner wrote: I had what I would assume is the same problem when I upgraded from 4.X to 5.0 and never got it solved. I never reported it as a bug. (Sigh, I know a slap on the wrist) Looking through the message boards on e-smith.org it has been noticed by a few

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] reinstallation disk errors

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) wrote: I believe we were the ones who requested the reinstallation boot disk. I don't recall whether you requested it, or it was suggested by us to satisfy a more general disaster recovery requirement that you had (I think the latter), but the

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet

2002-02-06 Thread John Powell
Has anyone tried to grab some traces (tcpdump) of this in action? A dump of it working and a dump of it not working could be very enlightening. You need to install tcpdump (rpm -Uvh ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/6.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/tcpdump- 3.4-19.i386.rpm) then run the following

[e-smith-devinfo] tcpdump (was Re: Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet)

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, John Powell wrote: I could not find a specific build of tcpdump on rpmfind.net for RH7.0, but the one for RH6.2 (tcpdump-3.4-19.i386.rpm) worked fine on my SME 5.1 box. It is real hard finding much specific for 7.0, seems RH is disavowing that 7.0 ever existed ;) [The

[e-smith-devinfo] tracing (was Re: Any news on v5.1.2 DHCP fix yet)

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, John Powell wrote: Has anyone tried to grab some traces (tcpdump) of this in action? A dump of it working and a dump of it not working could be very enlightening. You need to install tcpdump (rpm -Uvh

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] reinstallation disk errors

2002-02-06 Thread Darrell May
Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Darrell You are correct. A fresh install fits on the floppy, but a lively production system generates more data than the boot disk can handle. Thanks, good to be correct every now and then. You also raise some valid points. Maybe the

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread Darrell May
Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So you are suggesting a project fork. That's a lot of work, and fragments the community. So you should have very good justification for proposing is. Well it is only a project fork if Mitel does not join in and follow along with the community ;-

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Darrell May wrote: Comments have been mentioned that 2.4 kernel has limitations. So what. Isn't that what a development project is all about? I am not talking about a production release here. I'm talking a bleeding edge development release. We've been hoping to get

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread Greg Zartman
sufficient hours to it. Why should Mitel's owners fund this development, if they don't see it as a pressing business need? This topic must be on Mitel's roadmap? Mitel can't possible hope to stick with the 2.2 kernel for the long term. Correct me if I'm wrong Darrell, but it appears that

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Greg Zartman wrote: sufficient hours to it. Why should Mitel's owners fund this development, if they don't see it as a pressing business need? This topic must be on Mitel's roadmap? Mitel can't possible hope to stick with the 2.2 kernel for the long term. Yes,

[e-smith-devinfo] 2.4 kernel (was Re: SME on top of a distro)

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, little bark, BIG BYTE!! wrote: sufficient hours to it. Why should Mitel's owners fund this development [at this time], if they don't see it as a pressing business need? Because it is the direction the project *needs* to go in. In *your* opinion. Obviously Mitel's

[e-smith-devinfo] Re: 2.4 kernel (was Re: SME on top of a distro)

2002-02-06 Thread little bark, BIG BYTE!!
Charlie Brady wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, little bark, BIG BYTE!! wrote: sufficient hours to it. Why should Mitel's owners fund this development [at this time], if they don't see it as a pressing business need? Because it is the direction the project *needs* to go in. In *your* opinion.

[e-smith-devinfo] Re: 2.4 kernel (was Re: SME on top of a distro)

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, little bark, BIG BYTE!! wrote: Charlie Brady wrote: I'd be *very* happy for someone to work out a kernel 2.4.x and ext3 upgrade strategy. I'd be interested in doing it myself, but I don't have the time to do it right now, and I don't have an urgent need for it

[e-smith-devinfo] Samba RPMs

2002-02-06 Thread Greg Zartman
I've always wondered why the Samba team packages Samba into one RPM when Red Hat comes out of the box as three RPMs. Well, here's why they do it: From a post on the Samba mail list: I hate to be critical, and I will probably build a binary distribution from the sources, but the single

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: 2.4 kernel (was Re: SME on top of a distro)

2002-02-06 Thread little bark, BIG BYTE!!
Charlie Brady wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, little bark, BIG BYTE!! wrote: Charlie Brady wrote: on the other, Mitel is interested in seeing these items accomplished and on the foot, they are saying Yes, go ahead, we think that would be real nice, keen thing that, it's just that we don't really

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] XonSME [was krud? + X]

2002-02-06 Thread stephen noble
2) In response to Stephens comment about adding X Seems to me that if a sys admin saw a need to setup an X-server to service thin clients, then you'd want a machine Adding X to the server gets away from the simplicity. reliability. security. mantra i'm not interested in ext3 or

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread w9ya
Hey Gang; Time for me to speak up I guess. I think the idea of creating a list of wanted and needed features and capabilities of the next releases IS part of what a developers mailing list should be about. I also feel that Mitel and its representatives should support this affirmatively, even

[e-smith-devinfo] [BETA] new RAV panel for SME available

2002-02-06 Thread Darrell May
[BETA] For devinfo testing only. [BETA] http://myezserver.com/docs/mitel/rav-howto-beta.html This _beta_ release includes the following: - configuration panel for the server-manager (4.x/5.x) - ravscan hard drive scanner - log files created for all rav events viewable in View log files panel

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] [BETA] new RAV panel for SME available

2002-02-06 Thread Jeff Coleman
Nice Darrell, at first blush, it simply worked fine on my 5.1.2 test box. -jeff -Original Message- From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:12 PM To: e-smith-devinfo Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] [BETA] new RAV panel for SME available

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] XonSME [was krud? + X]

2002-02-06 Thread Greg Zartman
my idea is to use a redhat cd of the same version as the SME, then add, X + KDE + LTSP This is already done. Goto www.mandrake.com and download mandrake linux version 7.2. You are correct, the SME folks have created one of the easiest linux SERVER distros around. However, just about

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] [BETA] new RAV panel for SME available

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Darrell May wrote: [BETA] For devinfo testing only. [BETA] http://myezserver.com/docs/mitel/rav-howto-beta.html ... Comments welcomed. The licensing conditions on your documentation are inconsistent. Your document claims: GNU Free Documentation License: Copyright (C)

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread Karl Ponsonby
My only idea. ( dont have many) A distro that at install time, asks what bits you want. As example we have a ESSG box behind a firewall/gateway so don't need masq. Also same for appletalk protocol. Dial up same. Karl -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME on top of a distro

2002-02-06 Thread Charlie Brady
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Karl Ponsonby wrote: My only idea. ( dont have many) A distro that at install time, asks what bits you want. As example we have a ESSG box behind a firewall/gateway so don't need masq. This choice you get when you choose serveronly or servergateway (at initial boot

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] XonSME [was krud? + X]

2002-02-06 Thread stephen noble
the SME, then add, X + KDE + LTSP This is already done. Goto www.mandrake.com and download mandrake linux version 7.2. mostly i don't want to work in a beehive with extra computers humming around me. also unless you setup NIS you have to create duplicate uses, co-ordinating dhcp and

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] [BETA] new RAV panel for SME available

2002-02-06 Thread Darrell May
Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The licensing conditions on your documentation are inconsistent. I got that phrase directly from the gnu site? Charlie, how about finding something _productive_to do with your time, like instead of picking on me, maybe put your time towards a RedHat 2.4

[e-smith-devinfo] List behaviour (was [e-smith-devinfo] [BETA] new RAV panel for SME available)

2002-02-06 Thread Des Dougan
At 20:46 6/2/2002, Darrell May wrote: Charlie, how about finding something _productive_to do with your time, like instead of picking on me, maybe put your time towards a RedHat 2.4 kernel Howto Given that Charlie's posting was timestamped at 20.13 Pacific, and he's in Ottawa, where it's after

[e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-06 Thread David Brown
disclaimer First, let me preface this by saying that I have never messed with kernel upgrades before, and I am just writing this so people who want to mess with trying to upgrade their SME servers to a 2.4.x kernel and see what breaks (a bit of stuff). Don't ask me complicated questions about

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] List behaviour (was [e-smith-devinfo] [BETA]new RAV panel for SME available)

2002-02-06 Thread Graeme Robinson
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Des Dougan wrote: I also think it's about time both of you made a constructive effort to be polite to each other. The battle of wills (or egos, or whatever) on this list is becoming disruptive. Few of us here (i.e. the ones who pay) have any call on how Mitel sets its