The best answer is NO linears at all. Not gonna happen. But, in those
countries whee no linears are allowed, things seem to work quite smoothly
and operators get out and work DX better than most people here do.
Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX
I'm actually qrv on 14.109.50 usb with RFSM-2400 and beacon mode 500/600 short
every 60s
Can you try to receive me and connect me?
73
Roberto IS0GRB
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Roberto IS0GRB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm actually qrv on 14.109.50 usb with RFSM-2400 and beacon mode
500/600 short every 60s
Can you try to receive me and connect me?
73
Roberto IS0GRB
Just got your BEACON here in Athens Roberto. Your
Hi Demetre, thanks fo report.
I will wait to connect you.
73
Roberto IS0GRB
- Original Message -
From: Demetre SV1UY
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:18 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: QRV RFSM-2400 14109.5
--- In
Hello to all,
Erratum:
It must be read:
when n becomes big, the ratio tends to 1/(square root of n)...
instead of
when n becomes big, the ratio tends to 1/square(n)...
The following application on MT63 was OK.
73
Patrick
- Original Message -
From: Danny Douglas
To:
when n becomes big, the ratio tends to 1/square(n)
For example, for MT63 where you have 64 carriers in parallel,
You transmit only 12.5 watts with a 100 watts maximum XCVR.
The same applies to the digi-sstv hamdrm/windrm modes. 30 to 60
carriers, crest factor (average to peak power) is
Andy:
I'm willing to bet that your FSK tones were inverted.
I own a TS-2000 and the same thing happened to me just yesterday, with a bit of
a twist. My TS-2000 had been working just fine in FSK. On Friday I installed a
new motherboard in the station computer. When I attempted to work BARTG,
Yes, absolutely. Fax is legal only in the phone band. I even confused
myself!
I don't want to hazard a guess why Hellschreiber, which faxes pictures
of characters, is used in the data band and now the phone/image band.
Leigh/WA5ZNU
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 8:35 am, kv9u wrote:
Leigh,
This is the
I did hear the following ALE stations on 14109.5 yesterday during the Am-Tech
Day.
C02JA
EA2AFR
KU2A
K5SKH
I did get a brief ALE connection from Bonnie and EA2AFR. The band was in pretty
poor shape and signals were barely moving the S-meter. I was only running 15
watts and with RRTY contest
This is from the same guys that want to distroy 6
meters with 200 khz wide signals?
Nice very nice .
--- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rod,
I have NEVER heard of any Amateur being fined by the
FCC
for experimenting with a new mode...so what serious
trouble?
Radio
One other related thought.
With the recent changes to Part 97, I believe that it is now legal to
send an analog or digital image transmission in the text data portion of
the bands with signals that are no wider than 500 Hz.
73,
Rick, KV9U
Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
Yes, absolutely. Fax is
Leigh/WA5ZNU wrote:
I don't want to hazard a guess why Hellschreiber, which
faxes pictures of characters, is used in the data band and
now the phone/image band.
Hi Leigh,
The regulation by content has been a growing thorn in the FCC rules.
While it once was considered quaint, at this
Bruce,
You have to understand that John and his group have (had?), very
different agendas than most hams, and that includes digitally oriented
hams. Hopefully, he is one of the few U.S. hams who publicly recommend
deliberately and knowingly violating Part 97 rules.
It seems to me that the
Bruce, that is an extremely offensive posting.
I happen to LOVE 6M and have operated the
band for almost 50 years. Sorry, you feel the
way you do.
You are of course, in error once again.
The excellent response from John, KD6OZH,
clarified that our OFDM testing will not be
on the AM calling
This is from the same guys that want to distroy 6
meters with 200 khz wide signals?
Not destroy it - save it...
Amateur Radio used to be technology leaders. Today its the last
bastion of otherwise obsolete 'museum modes' like AM, CW and ATV while
the real world technologies of digital wide
OK this is starting to look like character assassination. Please
excuse me while I still have my character
73, Chuck AA5J
At 01:12 PM 3/18/2007, kv9u wrote:
Bruce,
You have to understand that John and his group have (had?), very
different agendas than most hams, and that includes digitally
John,
I beg to differ, I do get and from time to time I will offer comments
to assist someone else who may not be sure of how to proceed with new
technology in the age of rapid software modem developments.
However with your approach, sooner or later if you have not already,
you will likely
Thank you, Bill! I couldn't have written it any better!
6M is a huge band, that even when it is red hot, as we
hope it is again in a few years, is very coveted by many
businesses, in addition to BPL.
The ARRL HSMM Working Group was trying to save 6M,
in addition to finding a spot to operate SS.
Chuck,
Yes, it is character assassination.
All I am saying is don't go crazy with the FCC rules.
The FCC publicly has stated the purpose of the
rules was NEVER intended to hamper technological
experimenting and other progress by Hams.
Nonetheless, that is the FIRST question many Hams
ask when
Rick,
You are not in possession of all the facts.
The HSMM was chartered to find out what it would take to do high speed data and
other modes on frequencies above HF.
The report showed what bandwidth we believe would be necessary to accomplish
the
task.
The HSMM Working Group's Basic
New release (4.2) of MULTIPSK
RX/TX: PSK10/BPSK31-63-125/QPSK31-63-125/CHIP
(64/128)/PSKFEC31/PSKAM10-31-50/PSK63F - PSK220F + DIGISSTV
Run/CW/CCW/CCW-FSK/THROB/THROBX/MFSK8/
MFSK16 (+ SSTV)/MIL-STD-188-141A (+ARQ
FAE)/OLIVIA/CONTESTIA/RTTYM/VOICE/DominoF DF/DominoEX/MT63/RTTY 45/75/ RTTY
PS - Rick is correct about one item. Those
policy recommendations were part of the reason
the ARRL disbanded the HSMM Working Group.
They didn't like hearing those sorts of things.
Most Hams wouldn't like that sort of change
no matter how painless we tried to make it.
I have been a Ham since I
Like laws, ham radio regulatory rules are not black and white.
They are subject to interpretation, tradition, politics, and
convincing arguments.
A gray area is the area of rules where an unclear or unsharp dividing
line may apply to a specific instance, a trend, a group, or in this
case... a
Generally speaking, gray areas are widely accepted in democratic
societies and have a clear connection to the notion of tolerance,
whereas in societies of totalitarianism, grey areas are typically not
accepted on any level.
The notion is, that there may be a gray area in a rule or regulation,
as
Danny Douglas wrote:
The best answer is NO linears at all. Not gonna happen. But, in those
countries whee no linears are allowed, things seem to work quite
smoothly and operators get out and work DX better than most people
here do.
Danny Douglas N7DC
Well yeah. Countries in Europe and
Wilco!
You're response has so much class and rationale.
Original Message Follows
From: expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Gray Areas of Ham Radio Regulations and Rules
Date: Sun, 18 Mar
So where and when can hams in the US play with RFSM2400? I'll be back on
3587.5 after all the RTTY is done, probably
around 0100Z March 18, on until 0400Z using mil standard .
John
VE5MU
at 2315Z beaconing on 10137.5 VFO
John
VE5MU
John VE5MU
So where and when can hams in the US play with RFSM2400?
I'll be back on 3587.5 after all the RTTY is done, probably
around 0100Z March 18, on until 0400Z using mil standard .
Technically speaking, USA hams can only play with it on dummy loads...
or in the exercise yard of the
I've seen some activity on 10145.5kHz USB .
Bonnie KQ6XA
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
at 2315Z beaconing on 10137.5 VFO
John
VE5MU
well after seeing Bonnie's note will try RFSM2400 on 3620mhz after 0100Z
Some opinions seem tosay that the mode would be legal in the US in the phone
band as SSTV is?
Will send as many pix as you want on mil std hi hi
John
VE5MU
Perhaps at the time but I think the after the Board meeting in January and with
a new President thinking on his own, things may be changing...I think are
changing. I think we kicked them in the back side and woke up some of the OFs.
John Champa wrote:
PS - Rick is correct about one item.
Walt,
I certainly hope you are right. Joel is a progressive fellow.
Since that meeting I have certainly become more appreciative
of all the work that Chris Imlay did with all the FCC on behalf of
the HSMM Working Group. For example, look now at the new
rules on SS on the 222 MHz band! They
Walt,
It still seems peculiar that the BOD would close down a developing
technology group as if it had done its job. We have only begun with this
technology. Instead you would have expected to see them request
continued, if not even, expanded activity.
Did you ever work with Paul Rinaldo on
Considering that a commercial mode like Pactor can be used on the U.S.
ham bands, it would not require that much to have the specifications
posted or made available in some way to fulfill the minimal FCC rules
that are logical and well thought out.
They do not prohibit new technologies that
Rick,
Paul as the CTO was our reporting person. However,
he did not come into the picture until the last year.
A lot of frustration had built up by then.
It was also his recommendation to the Board that the
HSMM Working Group be founded. That's why we
called him the Father of HSMM.
Paul was
Rick,
I was Ok until that last parargraph and then you fell off the creeen.
Have you ever done it?
It takes several months to get an STA, and it can easily
take 4-5 YEARS to get a reg change. Even
getting an FCC interpratation can take months!
My suggestion? Just get the protocol posted to a
The problem with linears is that there are so many of them, they cover up
all other signals, and of course are in a fight with themselves. If
everyone ran 100 watts, it would only be antennas that made the difference -
beyond props. I am sitting out here in the country side, and could have run
a
thanks for the connect tonight, Darrel, and the file transfer works well.
Later, VE5TLW were working with this a little further, and
understand how the mailbox works
The software sets up another sub folder under mailbox, labelled with the users
callsign. right now in my mailbox folder there
John Bradley wrote:
will be on 14109.5 USB starting at about 1400Z, and will be on for a while
since I have
a lot of computer work to do tomorrow
regards
John
VE5MU
Les VK2DSG IS IN BEACON MODE ON 14109.5 FROM 0445Z 19TH FOR 2 HOURS -
ANTENNA POINTED SHORT PATH TO CENTRAL USA
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