Re: [digitalradio] RS ID use ?
My article must have scared them away. - Original Message - From: F.R. Ashley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RS ID use ? No, I haven't. Haven't heard any RSID's for the past 2 days actually. 73 Buddy WB4M - Original Message - From: obrienaj aobri...@stny.rr.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: [digitalradio] RS ID use ? Anyone notice an increase in the use of RS ID since the QST article last week? Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Inexpensive digital mode interfaces with LINUX ?
Does anyone know if there are inexpensive digital mdoe interfaces that work under Linux, have a usb conenctor, and provide CAT rig control ? I have a good inertface but it supports Windows only. For some upcoming projects I would like to have one that works under Linux. I was looking at the Donner digital interfaces but it is not clear if they require software that works with Windows or they are multi-platform Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Mail/File Tranfers on HF: Some Reflections on Winmor, PSKMAIL, FIdigi, and ALE.
While my primary interest in digital mode amateur radio is the keyboard QSO, I have spent the past few weeks extensively testing WINMOR, PSKMAIL, ALE, FLdigi with Wrap and FLARQ. All of these applications have essentially the ability to send files and messages via digital mode and with error correction. I am quite interested in HF initiated messages, a system whereby the ham does not need Internet access to initiate a message. WINMOR , as part of RMS Express, allows only peer to peer messaging at the moment but as it develops will add mailboxes that shift messages to the Internet where desired. However, WINMOR has a long way to go in its development and ,as it presently stands , is not particularly effective. Lots of promise for the future though. ALE , both the standard version and ALE 400 , are always quite useful but their mail interfaces seem to need simplifying. After a few weeks of testing, Fldigi seems to have emerged as the application with the most ecomm message transfer interest. There are many groups of hams that are using FLdigi in emergency drills and sending mail or file transfers. Much has been written already about FLARQ but the recent addition (almost seamlessly) of WRAP files to FLdigi really is a significant development for those wishing to easily send messages that are error free. I still stand by Skip Teller's statement a couple of hears ago, that emergency communication will work best when hams are using emcomm applications that are the same applications they use for regular on-air activities. FLdigi with wrap files , and a few other bells and whistles, achieves this perfectly. I'm greedy and want it all. Some applications allow mailbox type functions and some allow ham-to-ham direct connects, not all allow provide for both. With Fldigi ( and Multipsk in ALE400 ) you can easily send files ham-to-ham with error correction, In FL-digi you can easily do this with a large variety of digital modes, whichever one suits the conditions. However, what about mail transfers ? You can do that with Fldigi via the email client in FLARQ but I think my tests with PSKMAIL have established that the perfect fit for HF mail transfers is PSKMAIL. PSKMAIl is not ham-to-ham (use Fldigi for that) but PSKMAIL does allow you to send and retrieve email without Internet access. Essentially, PSKMAIL is an add-on to FLDIGI, it uses fldigi as the engine for many of digital modes FLDIGI supplies. PSKMAIL may eventually need a new name because you do not necessarily need to use PSK as the digital mode, Thor, MFSK, and DominoEx are also used. So in the digital ham's world.. on a daily basis the ham might use fldigi (or others like DM780 or Multipsk) for ragchew keyboard QSOs. They can now use FLdigi for the transfer of any files with error free capability , and with PSKMAIL added on they can connect to a server and pick-up or send email without the Internet. I hope to test PSKMAIL more in the next few weeks, my thanks to all those that are providing HF servers for us to access. Hopefully we can add a few more in North America soon. The standard at the moment for PSKMAIl transfers appears to be the higher speed PSK modes (e.g. PSK250) . That will provide fast transfers but also will need a good signal , thus a network of stations rather than relying on long-hop DX connections will improve things. Long-hop DX can be done , one PSKMAIL Server operator said he had a person in a boat off the coast of Africa use his 30M station in the USA to pick up mail, but a good server network will make things easier. While 30M seems a good choice for national and International PSKMAIL operations, I am also now beginning to thing amateur radio emergency groups my also want to explore 6 meters for some regional applications. Just a few reflections, 73 de Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE-400 - Keyboard mode / ALE
Another unique aspect of ALE-400 is it's bilateral operation. Since both stations can type at the same time, text from each station passes back-and-forth ever few seconds allowing the conversation to change directions quickly if need be. The bilateral wpm rate is 85 wpm or 42wpm each way; the standard is 60 wpm unilateral. Tony -K2MO That is a good point and one I am not sure many people are aware of. Much better than taking turns. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] QRV RFSM-8000 tonight
I did not transmit afterall, I need to do more research in to the legalities for USA hams. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK Reporter and PSK250 reports ?
Thanks Philip, I will assume that FL-digi transmits the correct ADIF string to you for PSK250. It may simply be that the people using PSKMAIL via PSK250 are not reporting your PSK Reporter. It will be nice to see it get used more often so that PSKMAIL Servers propagation can be quickly viewed and a user decide which server to access for their mail. I am currently monitoring a server frequency, using PSK250, and have FLDIGI reporting to PSK REPORTER. I will check to see if the stations I have heard today are reported to PSK Reporter. Andy K3UK On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:01 AM, philipjsg phi...@gladstonefamily.netwrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@... wrote: I do not see PSK250 among the list of modes that one can select in PSK Reporter . Does anyone know if it can be done ? It would be useful to spot PSKMAIL server propagation, especially since FLdigi can be configured to send to PSK Reporter. You can send any mode you like, but please use the ADIF mode strings. The drop down list is dynamically generated from all the modes that have been received over the last 24 hours. [At least that is what is supposed to happen. If it doesn't, then I'd treat it as a bug.]
[digitalradio] PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.
After a few weeks of WINMOR testing, where I exchanged brief emails directly with a number of hams, PSKMAIL is going to take some getting used to. Thanks to Rein I got the programs set-up and have had good PSK250 paths during the day time to WB5CON. So, when I checked in to the WB5CON mail server and asked for my mail, I thought I would maybe get a brief email from Rein or some ham that uses PSKMAIL. I was surprised when my first email QUICKLY (compared to WINMOR) started to scroll in on 30M... Your msg: 8032 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:45:44 -0700 From: Verizon Wireless verizonwirel...@email.vzwshop.com Subject: Meet a Few Representatives from Customer Service snip... I forgot that PSKMAIL is a full email service, you can get ALL your email via PSKMAIL, all your email that goes to the reply address you specify in PSKMAIL set-up. The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm. I was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail. Using PSK250, I am not always able to make a connect to a server despite moderate signals, but it does appears to be more robust than current versions of WINMOR. I'll play around some more. Andy K3UK -- Andy
[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.
. The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm. I was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail. I sent an email to myself while the Internet was down at home, this was a test message dropped in to the Internet via 30M PSKMAIL transfer and WB5CON's station. It worked - Original Message - From: aobrien2 stny.rr.com To: aobrien2 stny.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 Subject: Test while Internet down PSKmail message from aobrien2 stny.rr.com Test from Andy I received the above in my Outlook in-box later , when the Internet at home was up and working again. Russell, your station responds to em like I am connected and I am not. Thus when your server is asking me to update the record, I can't because I am not connected. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] jPSKMAIL update record
Thanks Rein. I did have the email setting in there and pressed the update server , perhaps WB5CON did not receive it. I will try again today with some European servers this morning. Andy K3UK In the edit-preferences-email settings menu you can enter the data for your mail account. For pop (mail download) the server needs pop server, userid and password. For outgoing mail the smtp server needs your reply address. Update by connecting the server and hitting the 'update server' button. The server will reply with 'updated record for CALL'. Data record sent to the server is not readable. If the record is valid next connect the server will not ask again for your record. It checks the validity of the pop data by performing a 'new mail' check on connect. If that fails (e.g. if you did not enable pop on your gmail accont) it will nag you again next time. 73, Rein PA0R
Re: [digitalradio] Re: ANNOUNCE: PocketDigi 1.0.12 released
When I load it on my PC (Windows) the waterfall does not have anything in it, not even static. When I press transmit, the PSK tones are heard via USB speakers that are NOT the default soundcard. Not a big deal Vojtech, I will eventually solve the issue. Anyone used PocketDigi on a Blackberry ? On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Vojtech bubn...@seznam.cz wrote: How do I select a sound card? Using it on my PC, I am not receiving any signals in the waterfall , probably because I have not selected a sound source. Hi Andy. PocketDigi uses the default sound card. There is no selection. The UI is spartan as it was designed for the Pocket PC platform. The big windows version was written mostly as a testbed for the Pocket PC version. It is much easier to develop on the PC first and then just recompile for the Pocket PC. On the other side, the application is tiny and very CPU and memory efficient. It will provide basic communication means with most digital modes on most Windows boxes. It will run pretty well even on the first Pentium ~150MHz laptops. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK
[digitalradio] PSK Reporter and PSK250 reports ?
I do not see PSK250 among the list of modes that one can select in PSK Reporter . Does anyone know if it can be done ? It would be useful to spot PSKMAIL server propagation, especially since FLdigi can be configured to send to PSK Reporter. -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL does NOT need a BBS
Thanks. I will play around some more with using the servers. Andy K3UK On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com wrote: Correct for the jpskmail client, it is possible on the old Linux client (version 1.1). I built peer-to-peer operation into the client on request of the NBEMS guys, but they lost interest in pskmail so I stopped putting effort into that. You will see that TTY is greyed out in the Mode menu. THOR22 is a perfect mode for keyboard-to-keyboard operation, you don't normally need ARQ for that. If there is a lot of interest from users I might also build TTY and p-to-p file transfer into the java client. Most ops use jpskmail for messaging, email, web access and HF APRS messaging and downloading WX charts while mobile. 73, Rein PA0R
Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server
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Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL Server
OK, so far not hearing you. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Russell Blair russell_blai...@yahoo.comwrote: No its on 7076 on ur dial. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson
Re: [digitalradio] Re: RS ID with FLDIGI stops decode
Thank you Dave. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:39 AM, David w1...@w1hkj.com wrote: The next version of fldigi supports the RSID decoder as a background operation, allowing the current modem to continue operating both in receive and transmit. 73, Dave, W1HKJ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Using TS2000, D700A and Sky Command for digital modes ?
But Danny, why do that is you don't have to? On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:58 PM, DANNY DOUGLAS n...@comcast.net wrote: Goodness, how far away is the repeater? I nonomally hit repeatrs at 60-100 miles away with the hand held antenna here in the shack, in the basement. Putting a small verticle up on the roof, attached to the vent pipe usually works well. -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Active PSKMAIL ? Frequency
I'm confused about the correct frequency for WB5CON, the PSKMAIL web site says. Which PSKmailservers can I use? (Center Frequencies : Display -1kHz all USB, example 10148Khz = 10147KHz!) but the old mail below says VFO + 1000 Hz if your sweet spot is 1000 Hz. Assuming a 'sweet spot of 1000 Hz. will I find WB5CON on 10147 on my dial or 10148 ? Andy K3UK On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com wrote: Makes a lot of sense Hal... You find the frequency/mode table at: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers All frequencies in that table are center frequencies, i.e. VFO + 1000 Hz if your sweet spot is 1000 Hz. Here is an excerpt, the sacanning frequencies are at the bottom (minutes 0...4): PI4TUE NETHERLANDS 00:00 - 00:00 10.148,25 0,4 psk250 SM0RWO SWEDEN 00:00 - 00:00 Scanning 1,3,4 psk250 VE7SUN CANADA 00:00 - 00:00 10.148.25 3 psk250 WB5CON USA 00:00 - 00:00 Scanning 0,1,2 psk250 IS0GRB-3 ITALY 00:00 - 00:00 10.148,25 0-4 psk250 KD5WDQ USA 00:00 - 00:00 10.148 3 psk250 KD4QCL USA 00:00 - 00:00 Scanning 3,4 psk250 DK4XI-0 GERMANY 00:00 - 00:00 10148,0 0 psk250 DK4XI-2 GERMANY 00:00 - 00:00 14.078,0 0 psk250 DK4XI-3 GERMANY 00:00 - 00:00 10.147.70 0 psk250 DK4XI-4 GERMANY 00:00 - 00:00 7038.0 0 psk250 DK4XI-8 GERMANY 00:00 - 00:00 3588.0 0 psk250 SM0RWO 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 14078.00 3588.00 PI4TUE 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 10148.75 IS0GRB-3 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 VK2ETA 3625.00 7033.00 7234.00 10124.00 144750.00 WB5CON 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 KD4QCL 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 The best cahnce of hearing a server is on the top of the hour (minutes 0 ... 4). 73, Rein PA0R PS If you can always contact the sysops via the mailing list. to make a sked. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Hal iamw8...@verizon.net Gesendet: 19.09.08 01:02:53 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Active PSKMAIL ? Collecting and learning all I can about PSKMail, I find some loose ends at this point and was wondering if this is the proper site: Viewing pskmailers.php I see the suppressed carrier frequency missing from some entries.. Can I presume that, in my case, 10.148 USB is proper? I see no reference to the audio offset frequency and if psk250 is BPSK250 or QPSK250?? I monitored 10.148.000 for a few hours around 1700Z and heard/saw some short bursts but got no valid decoding, using FLDigi3.02/Slackware12.1.. I have the Puppy4 CD working but thought I had better try the above first.. The rig receives and decodes BPSK31 fine on both 30M and 20M that I've tried so far.. Hope this makes sense.. HI.. TIA. -- Vy 73 de Hal--W8MCH UNIX-GNU/Linux - Slackware 11.0, 2.4.33.3 . Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked 30M digital activity at http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, Winwarbler ,MMVARI. Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked 30M digital activity at http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, Winwarbler ,MMVARI. Yahoo! Groups Links -- Andy
[digitalradio] PSKMAIL tests tonight ?
Anyone want to test jPSKMAIl tonight? I will be reading helps files (heavens forbid!) since it seems I need to do a few things more, from WB5CON today I received.. Hi K3UK, pse update your record. Off to find out how to do this. Also looking for some non-server tests. -- Andy
[digitalradio] RS ID with FLDIGI stops decode
While checking in to a regional NBEMS net today using both Multipsk and FLDIGI, I noticed FLDIGI in 8/500 Olivia would NOT decode at all if the RS ID box in the upper right-hand corner of FLDIGI was checked. It decoded fine when unchecked. -- Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] RS ID with FLDIGI stops decode
Thanks, that makes sense now? Andy On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Dave hfradio...@gmail.com wrote: From the beginners' guide at w1hkj.com (Bold and underline added by me) 3.5.2. Other controlsRSID This button turns on the receive RSID (automatic mode detection and tuning) feature. *When in use, the button turns yellow and no text reception is possible until a signal is identified, or the feature is turned off again*. If you plan to use the RSID feature on receive, you must leave the *Start New Modem at Sweet Spot* item in the menu Configure-Defaults-Misc tab unchecked. Dave hfradio...@gmail.com Real radio bounces off the sky On 4 Oct, at 3:03 PM, Andrew O'Brien wrote: While checking in to a regional NBEMS net today using both Multipsk and FLDIGI, I noticed FLDIGI in 8/500 Olivia would NOT decode at all if the RS ID box in the upper right-hand corner of FLDIGI was checked. It decoded fine when unchecked. -- Andy K3UK -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] RS ID with FLDIGI stops decode
It IS UNCHECKED but symptom persist.., no decode when RS ID box is checked. Should I leave BOTH unchecked ? I have had it working well in the past. On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks, that makes sense now? Andy On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Dave hfradio...@gmail.com wrote: From the beginners' guide at w1hkj.com (Bold and underline added by me) 3.5.2. Other controls
Re: [digitalradio] Twitter in jPSKMAIL?
Thanks per, now I understand. Cool! Andy K3UK On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Per n59...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes. It used to be connected to your twitter account through the messagedance service. You could send updates and get your incoming tweets. But, you had to have a messagedance account enabled. In the new version we will instead just curl the updates and bypass the need for a messagedance account.
Re: [digitalradio] Why so much interest in WINMOR?
I think, not sure, that a majority of WINMOR testers are NOT experienced digital mode operators. By that I mean they may be RTTY or PSK31 operators but mostly come from the packet/pactor world. I am thus guessing that many are not familiar with other ARQ modes. This is based, in part, on several comments that I have seen from beta testers of WINMOR. Several have been turned on to ALE 400 by ALE junkies like VE5MU and K2MO. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds
I will be attempting to set up Email via ALE400 tonight. Andy K3UK On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:53 PM, John Bradley jbrad...@sasktel.net wrote: tried just now (2200UTC) nothing yet. Ve5EOC and VE5MU both listening John VE5MU *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:41 PM *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds All, I'll be QRV ALE-400 in the evenings on 20 meters. My station will not be left unattended so please see Andy's sked page for activity. Skeds welcome via email @ d...@otponline.net QRG - 14106.0 USB DIAL Testing - ALE-400 sounding / connects / chat mode QSO / mail transfers. Sked Page - http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ Tony -K2MO -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Winmor Path Simulaitons
Thanks Tony. Your caveats aside, a mode that performs about the same as PSK63 for a connect but then appears to have worse performance during message transfers is not very promising. Hopefully they can get to around MFSK16 performance as things are tweaked. Andy K3UK On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: All, For what it's worth, I ran Winmor connect request signals through Moe Wheatley's path simulator. These tests are usually pretty good indicators of how digital modes perform and compare over a real HF channel. That said, the results of these tests may not reflect Winmors real potential so take them with a grain of salt. Running the path simulator on the same PC as I did with a mode that's sensitive to sound card performance and CPU usage is probably not the best for optimum results. I haven't figured out a way to test Winmor other than the connect request PSK mode so these tests are at best, a glimpse of what to expect when connecting with other stations under a variety of conditions; sound card issues aside. I should point out that some of these HF path simulations are severe with enough signal distortion to make one slow to a snails pace, even on CW! Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winmor Path Simulaitons
I wonder the same thing. I heard a long PACTOR exchange near 7080 last night when you were linked to someone via WINMOR. I was wondering how they were doing compered to you.. In fact I even thought of getting out an old TNC that has Pactor 1 on it to give it a try, but thought of wiring up 13 and 8 pin DIN connectors put me off. Andy K3UK On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:17 AM, aa777888athotmaildotcom aa777...@hotmail.com wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote: I would be interested to know what those who have a lot of high-end packet experience (not me) like Pactor 3 think of Winmor. Sadly I bet anyone with a high-end packet TNC probably won't bother :-) k*b*l*0*0*q
Re: [digitalradio] Re: What's up with FLDIGI
I just did this again but it then wants me to configure all over again. I configured all over again, after 10 seconds (or less) of working and displaying rig frequency, FLDIGI closes. Andy K3UK On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:58 AM, kh6ty kh...@comcast.net wrote: Without fldigi running, you can also just search for fldigi.files, delete fldigi_def.xml and fldigi.prefs, and then run fldigi, but I guess you have already done that since it is now working. Anytime you reinstall fldigi it is best to delete fldigi_def.xml and fldigi.prefs before running the new version. 73 Skip KH6TY obrienaj wrote: Thanks Skip, all is well now. Andy -- *Skip KH6TY* http://KH6TY.home.comcast.net -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Re: What's up with FLDIGI
HAMLIB On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:36 PM, kh6ty kh...@comcast.net wrote: Andy are you using fldigi for rig control?
Re: [digitalradio] Re: What's up with FLDIGI
Skip, there is no TS2000 XML file for RIGCAT. I'll play around some more. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Anyone for WINMOR/FLARQ/ALE tests this weekend ?
Well my HD just crashed this morning, so hopefully I'll get a spare working so I can partcipate. Otherwise it'll be just FLARQ from Linux boot disc. Third HD crash in the past 4 months, getting annoying. Andy K3UK On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM, rich3x r...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, count me in: but I'll be using ALE400. callsign band grid ..sounds like a thinly veiled contest! Let's have at it. And I suppose you are collecting and compiling the results? de Rich/N2JR --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, obrienaj andrewob...@... wrote: I think it would be fun to try a test of simple message exchanges on 40,30, 20 meters this weekend to compare WINMOR, FLARQ and ALE (standard and 400) . It be be useful to have a group of us that can connect and try a message in all four formats . I would propose the message simply be Mr. Watson--come here--I want to see you. Callsign band grid locator. Anyone willing to try ? Software needed: RMS EXPRESS, FLDIGI, Multipsk (or PC-ALE for standard ALE). Recommend no more than 100 watts . Andy K3UK -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference(A dissent)
but why can't W1AW listen first and NOT xmit if busy? On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Bill V WA7NWP wa7...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what is it that makes 3580 a sacred gathering place for PSK? Why isn't it 070 like it is on some other bands? Why can't we just QSY to get away from W1AW? Many home brew low power rigs, psk included, use the standard and very cheap 3.579 TV color burst crystal. 73 Bill -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference
I have found it frustrating when I am on that freq and THEN they start up. I wish they would simply QSY when the freq appears busy. Andy K3UK On 9/22/09, frankk2ncc frank.k2...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds like a very reasonable request. Well written and good job! f, k2ncc -- Andy
[digitalradio] What's up with FLDIGI
With lots of WINMOR testing taking place, I decided to load up FLDIGI today and compare its ARQ capabilities. However, my recent fresh download and install of FLDIGI crashes within 10 seconds of booting. EventType : BEX P1 : fldigi.exe P2 : 0.0.0.0 P3 : 4a6cce2a P4 : mswsock.dll P5 : 5.1.2600.5625 P6 : 485bed11 P7 : 2c61 P8 : c409 P9 : I saw some mention of FLdigi errors a few weeks ago but did not pay a lot of attention. I had previously had FLdogi working fine on my old PC. -- Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] K3UK Sked Pages for coordinating WINMOR beta testing
FYI, the digitalradio section of the K3UK Sked Pages has been busy with up to 10 connected stations trying WINMOR.. The sked page may be useful to those trying WINMOR QSOs over the weekend. Conenct via http://www.obriensweb.com/sked and choose the digitalradio tab. Suggested calling frequencies: For WINMOR testing suggested dial frequencies 3587 , 7080,10136, 14112, 18107 , -- Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] K3UK Sked Pages for coordinating WINMOR beta testing
Ian, simply a visual cue that indicates the person in smaller letters has not posted in at least the last 10 minutes and may not be at their keyboard. Andy K3UK On 9/19/09, Ian Wade G3NRW g3...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com andrewobrie%40gmail.com Hi Andy, On your digital sked page, in the Users on Now section, what is the significance of some callsigns being in small characters and some in large? -- 73 Ian, G3NRW -- Andy
[digitalradio] Come Here Watson
Message ID: NDTTDN5FRWGW Date: 2009/09/19 13:11 From: KI4MTB To: K3UK Source: KI4MTB Subject: //WL2K Test Test from KI4MTB -- Yeah, my first HF message from RMS Express via WINMOR . 7080 Thanks KI4MTB! ** Disconnected at 2009/09/19 13:15:39 [Session Stats:] Duration: 4.61 min Bandwidth: 500Mode Shifts: 0 Decode Attempts: 17 Weak R-S Decodes : 17Weak R-S Sums: 0 Strong R-S Decodes: 0 Strong R-S Sums:0 Bytes Sent : 246Bytes Received:249 Thuput(bytes/min): 107 Now 17 decode attempts to exchange about 500 bytes over 5 minutes with a S5 signal is nothing to write home about, but I'll take it for a start. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] 20M RS ID mode hunt, outcome
VFO 14072.73 , 3kHZ filter/waterfall. Vertical ground plane antenna Location FN02hk (Western NY state) RS ID continuous 17/9/2009 20:08:03 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3682 Hz 19:25:37 UTC MFSK8 2266 Hz 19:23:48 UTC OLIVIA-8-500 2266 Hz 19:09:35 UTC MFSK8 2255 Hz 19:05:08 UTC CONTESTIA-4-250 2255 Hz 19:03:14 UTC RTTYM-4-250 2255 Hz 19:00:54 UTC RTTYM-4-250 2261 Hz 18:59:19 UTC RTTYM-8-125 2261 Hz 18:56:30 UTC FELD HELL 2261 Hz 16:50:09 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3499 Hz 16:39:55 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3509 Hz 16:36:05 UTC MFSK163509 Hz 16:34:48 UTC MFSK163499 Hz 16:24:45 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 2686 Hz 16:16:49 UTC MFSK162998 Hz 14:15:22 UTC FELD HELL 1604 Hz 14:06:24 UTC FELD HELL 1609 Hz 14:05:05 UTC FELD HELL 1222 Hz -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] 20M RS ID mode hunt, outcome
Phil, I am hearing u in THOR, loud and clear but cannot reply due to FLdigi not working On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew...very nice work. philw de ka1gmn 2009/9/17 Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com VFO 14072.73 , 3kHZ filter/waterfall. Vertical ground plane antenna Location FN02hk (Western NY state) RS ID continuous 17/9/2009 20:08:03 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3682 Hz 19:25:37 UTC MFSK8 2266 Hz 19:23:48 UTC OLIVIA-8-500 2266 Hz 19:09:35 UTC MFSK8 2255 Hz 19:05:08 UTC CONTESTIA-4-250 2255 Hz 19:03:14 UTC RTTYM-4-250 2255 Hz 19:00:54 UTC RTTYM-4-250 2261 Hz 18:59:19 UTC RTTYM-8-125 2261 Hz 18:56:30 UTC FELD HELL 2261 Hz 16:50:09 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3499 Hz 16:39:55 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3509 Hz 16:36:05 UTC MFSK16 3509 Hz 16:34:48 UTC MFSK16 3499 Hz 16:24:45 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 2686 Hz 16:16:49 UTC MFSK16 2998 Hz 14:15:22 UTC FELD HELL 1604 Hz 14:06:24 UTC FELD HELL 1609 Hz 14:05:05 UTC FELD HELL 1222 Hz -- Andy -- Andy
[digitalradio] WINMOR FINALLY IN BETA
Forwarded from WINMOR group de Rick Muething, KN6KB WINMOR enthusiasts, OK the install file is on the yahoo WINMOR group site as well as the instructions and goals for the beta program. I'm sure there are still subtle bugs (maybe some not so subtle!) but we have done some extensive over-the-air testing with the previous 32 alpha versions. The help file is included in the install and while it may not win any literary prizes it is pretty complete and accurate. During the next few weeks there will likely be many updates (Your program should auto update if you are connected to the internet and haven't blocked all the WINMOR ports). Let's focus on the basics now and not get bogged down in creeping features. Good luck to you beta testers. Remember I don't do this full time (though it seems like time and a half this last month!) but I will try and get back to answer your questions. I hope someone can suggest some frequencies to try for our initial over the air tests. My station KN6KB is on 18107 USB dial (18108.5 Center frequency) set up for 500 Hz WINMOR. (but the band has been dead the last several days!) Thank you for your patience and a special thanks to Vic W5SMM for his programming efforts and RF testing help and to Tad WA1FQO and Neil VE1YZ for the tireless help during over the air alpha testing. Let's roll, 73, Rick Muething, KN6KB Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Anybody On Tonight?
3582 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:42 PM, r_lwesterfield r_lwesterfi...@bellsouth.net wrote: Where is everybody hanging out? Rick – KH2DF/W5 -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] QRV ALE-400 14074.0 - SKEDS PSE!
ALso QRV 14074, new version. On 9/12/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: All, Patrick released a new ALE-400 test version that uses RSID to resynchronize after a certain number (3) of retries. This feature should work well to correct out-of-sync problems that happen on occasion when signals are weak. I worked W2KI/M from his motor home in Colorado today and it seems there may be a bug; I'd appreciate a sked tonight on 20 meters (14074.0) so we can let Patrick know if the latest release is working ok. I'm QRV as of 2345z on 14074.0 USB. I'll be there all evening. Tony -K2MO -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Re: SDR-Radio.com
Thanks Ed, I will have to take another look at their web page, looks interesting. Andy K3UK On 9/7/09, ed_hekman ehek...@cox.net wrote: Andy, I built a Softrock RXTX V6.3 earlier this year. It does take some reading to understand what is offered and what is required/available for each kit. It is not really a business - the guys design the radios and offer the kits for little more than the cost of the parts. I think it is mostly the work of Tony Parks, KB9YIG. Limited runs are made of each kit depending on the interest. Briefly here is what is available: - Softrock Lite II - single band receiver - IF Special Softrock Lite - IF panadapter kit - You specify the IF frequency of your radio. - Softrock V9.0 Lite - All band receiver with plugin front end filters for each band. Also includes an Si570 digital VFO that can be controlled through a USB port or 1 of 16 preprogrammed frequencies can be selected with 4 dip switches. There is also an electronically switched BPF filter board and a 6M/2M converter kit available for this receiver. - Softrock RXTX V6.3 transceiver - All band transceiver with 4 sets of plugin BPF modules/PAs to cover all bands from 160 to 10 meters. Output power is less than 1 watt. This includes the Si570 digital VFO with 16 preprogrammed frequencies. A USB to I2C converter is available to control the Si570 VFO through a USB port. Other people offer stand-alone controllers for the Si570. I bought the one from Kees, K5BCQ ( http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/Kits/Kits.html). There was a motherboard (MoBo 3.6) for it that held the PA and all the BPF modules and had electronic switching but that is no longer available. The next version, MoBo 4.3, will be available later this year. Others offer PAs to boost the power up to 5 watts, 20 - 40 watts or even 100 watts. Software that I am aware of includes: - Rocky 3.6 - Transceiver with PSK capability - single line text display, no macros or logging but it is the easiest to set up. I made several PSK QSOs with Rocky. - SDRadio - receive only - WinRad - receive only - KGKSDR - transceiver - I couldn't get this to work. - PowerSDR from Flex-Radio - The most powerful and complex to set up. - MultiPSK - It has an SDR front-end. This can do all the MultiPSK digital modes with an SDR radio. I hope this helps relieve a little of the confusion. Ed WB6YTE
[digitalradio] 30M RS-ID pings
30M RS-ID pings heard on 30M from 2230 to 0240 UTC. Seven different modes , Chip64 lives! Andy K3UK 02:41:30 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1453 Hz 02:31:46 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1458 Hz 02:11:23 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500 1254 Hz 02:10:54 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500 1238 Hz 02:10:31 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500 1345 Hz 02:10:02 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500 1248 Hz 02:09:32 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500 1275 Hz 00:49:58 UTC BPSK311475 Hz 00:49:11 UTC BPSK311491 Hz 00:48:22 UTC BPSK31931 Hz 00:48:17 UTC BPSK311507 Hz 00:47:20 UTC BPSK311501 Hz 00:45:48 UTC BPSK311507 Hz 00:08:36 UTC BPSK311528 Hz 23:49:57 UTC BPSK631491 Hz 23:46:29 UTC BPSK311103 Hz 23:42:07 UTC BPSK31619 Hz 23:27:25 UTC CHIP-64 1846 Hz 23:25:17 UTC PSK220F 1846 Hz 23:23:01 UTC BPSK63446 Hz 22:35:32 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1717 Hz 22:33:05 UTC BPSK63974 Hz 22:31:59 UTC BPSK125 1415 Hz -- Andy
[digitalradio] Talking JT65A via Multipsk
Just a reminder, with Multipsk and in JT65 modes, try clicking on the VOCALIZATION button. With that pressed (and your speakers on) when your software decodes 14:447 -09 1 +0244 CQ VA6SZ DO33 D=2757 Km (1713 mil.) Az=308° The CQ VA6SZ DO33 part will be spoken aloud ... you can be in the next room and find out who is calling. My shack is quite active today. Multipsk just announced VA6SZ calling and Joe DX in Spotcollector is letting me know via voice announcement Malta is on 17M RTTY. -- Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] SDR-Radio.com
Since this integrates with DM780, what does the software actually do ? I assume that HRD and DM780 do all the work, so is it essentially just a 10 kHZ waterfall? Andy K3UK On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Simon (HB9DRV)simon.br...@kns.ch wrote: Hi Andy, I'm getting on with my SDR console: http://sdr-radio.com - this console can monitor an entire band for RSID :) Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: obrienaj andrewob...@gmail.com Today I am simply scanning 14070, 14073, 14076, and 14107.5 in 5 second intervals (all VFO frequencies) . I am in no particular mode, but DO have RS ID detect active. If I hear your RS ID within 3 kHz of where I am scanning, I will receive an audible alert. Try calling CQ with RS ID enabled at the beginning of your CQ and see if I hear you while scanning. -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio.com
So, I have to get me one of them SDR radios. Just what is the deal with Softrock, are they for purchase commonly? The web page is awfully confusing, makes it looks like they are not fully in business. Genesis SDR's look promising but still very early in their deveopment at the moment.. FLEX , too many Euros for my budget. Andy K3UK On 9/6/09, Simon (HB9DRV) simon.br...@kns.ch wrote: SDR-RADIO.com is a SDR console - connect a SDR radio such as the SoftRock receiver and you can receive 160m to 10m, at least 100kHz bandwidth at a time. Not just a receiver - it will decode CW (similar to CW skimmer), monitor for RSID / CALLID, do lots of other great things (tm) which are still t.b.a. Once I get it available you'll see what I mean. Later it will support TX using SDR as well. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com andrewobrie%40gmail.com Since this integrates with DM780, what does the software actually do ? I assume that HRD and DM780 do all the work, so is it essentially just a 10 kHZ waterfall? -- Andy
[digitalradio] Fwd: [dxlab] DXKeeper 8.1.6 enhancement for LOTW and some digital modes
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: aa6yq aa...@ambersoft.com Date: Sep 6, 2009 5:48 PM Subject: [dxlab] DXKeeper 8.1.6 is available To: dx...@yahoogroups.com This release - when synchronizing QSOs or QSLs with LotW, QSOs reported by LotW whose Mode is DATA are considered to match a logged QSO whose mode counts as RTTY for ARRL awards (tnx to Bob WU9Q) - updates the AwardInfo.htm, index.htm, Log.htm, LogCompletedMain.htm, LogNewCapture.htm, LogNewMain.htm, ModifyLog.htm, Progress.htm, QSL.htm, Scripts.htm, and ViewEditLog.htm documentation files If your are uploading digital mode QSOs to LotW where the digital mode is not yet supported by LotW (e.g. JT65A), configure TQSL to map these unsupported digital modes to DATA. The above enhancement allows DXKeeper to locate these QSOs in your log when directed to synchronize with LotW; previously, DXKeeper would report such QSOs as not matching any logged QSO because of the change in mode introduced by TQSL. DXKeeper 8.1.6 is available via the DXLab Launcher and via http://www.dxlabsuite.com/download.htm 73, Dave, AA6YQ -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
Danny, I think they are not being posted/spotted. I have always assumed, perhaps wrongly, that serious DXers and cluster owners frown on something like K3UK spotting N7DC because you are not really DX. Thus even though you might be using an interesting digital mode , I would not spot you on a real DX cluster. If you were ET2US I would spot you, not N7DC. If we all started spotting routine callsigns and their digital modes on a regular cluster, Spotcollector would indeed be the best tool. Andy On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:16 PM, DANNY DOUGLASn...@comcast.net wrote: Where is there Tony? HI. And I have, on average, 3 sites gathering spots here, and using SpotCollector which has almost every mode known to man, listed, so its not like they just disappear on this end. Looks like the special digital modes simply are not being passed thru the network. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC Danny, What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group, why I am not seeing ANY of them on the spot network? I would gladly give some of them a listen, if they showed up Danny Douglas N7DC That's a good question... I've noticed 'exotic mode' cluster spots on occasion and I've sent some over the years with Mixw's DX Cluster feature. The response is usually less than stellar. I use this reflector on occasion to spot QRV notes (with Andy's permission) for the purpose of testing less familiar modes like ALE-400. The audience is much smaller than the clusters, but it's members are of course, geared toward digital. Andy's sked page is perfect for digital mode skeds / QRV posts, but it sees little use. I can't figure out why that is with the number of members we have. http://www.obriensweb.com/sked I'm there now at 2250z if you'd like to sked. I'll be on for a few hours. Tony -K2MO -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] PSK-PACKET anyone?
Just back from holiday, which version do I need for PSK-packet? I am running 4.15 and do not see it. Andy K3UK On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:46 AM, kt4w...@gmail.com wrote: MultiPSK... and its Packet but using BPSK63/250 instead of 300b FSK Trip - KT4WO - Original Message - From: Phil Williams To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSK-PACKET anyone? What app are you running for this mode? philw de ka1gmn kn On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:57 PM, kt4w...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone up for some PSK-PACKET?? 63b on 10.141.5 1650hz 21:00 Easttime Trip - KT4WO -- Andy
[digitalradio] New sked request feature on Sked Page
After a little brain storming between myself, Joe N8FQ, and Laurie VK3AMA, I have added a sked request feature to the K3UK Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked. The digitalradio sked page can be accessed by clicking on the digitalradio tab/link. The Sked Request link is fairly self-explanatory, try it if you want to test some digital modes. Thanks to Joe NF8Q for his creative coding
Re: [digitalradio] Digital sked page: New ideas ?
Hi Sholto, I am just back from holiday and saw your post. Your question has been one that has been on my mind recently, I am not sure what can be done to add interest. The SKCC and LOTW sked pages are often very busy but the interest in the sked page for digital mode skeds seems to be dwindling. I saw no increase when the hamspots page was down for a month. I thought the nice new design and link to PSKreporter at hamspots would bring lots of users to hamspots and make my sked page even less used, however Hamspots can go many hours without a spot too (except PSkreporter ). I think it may be time for something new to spice things up but I am not sure what that is for the digital mode enthusiasts. Joe and I have added as many interesting features to the sked page as we can think off. I still think some form of integration of PSKreporter might be useful although I am not sure how to add that...yet. Something like the auto-reporting module you wrote for Multispk and your old spotting page might be useful too. Ideally, some easy form of my rig is tuned to would be of help but perhaps one that is not dependent on a particular piece of software, something that reports your frequency and mode live to a webpage regardless of whether you are using Multipsk, DM780, Winwarbler, FLdigi, or other applications. Reporting what you hear would also be interesting if it could be filtered to prevent endless reports of the same station in a mundane mode. Spotcollector still appears, to me, to be the most useful spot related system. I'm not sure what would be best, creating something that could take data filtered FROM Spotcollector and automatically posted to a sked page for digital modes, or creating a system where data is SENT to a digital mode only cluster that would interface with Spotcollector and end users could customize as they wish. Perhaps we can get a few comments . Andy K3UK On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Sholto Fishersho...@probikekit.com wrote: Just wondered why there are so few spots on Andy's sked page recently? http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ also I am QRV on 14074 with RS-ID and CALL ID monitoring. 73 Sholto K7TMG
Re: [digitalradio] WINMOR
WINMOR is still several months from initial release. WINLINK is easy and you do not need HF to use it, your can use it without Pactor via VHF (Packet) or via the Internet abd the Telnet client. Andy K3UK On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Tim N9PUZtim.n9...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think an actual price has been mentioned but I recall the idea is just for the development team to partially fund some needed test equipment for future projects. An example mentioned a while back was under $50 but I do not recall if that was from someone on the development team or not. With all they provide free of charge I expect that if it is not free it will be affordable for anyone who needs it. Consider that WINMOR is a sound card mode. Since you don't have to buy even a 1200 baud style TNC, that would make WINMOR worth at least the $75 you might pay for the least expensive TNC kit you can buy. Tim, N9PUZ Russell Blair wrote: Warren, It's my understanding that WINMOR is not going to be free software, that going to cost something. ? do you know what the price goig to be.? Russell -- Andy
[digitalradio] Google's memory ?
Please excuse the non-ham question. I just started using a new PC this weekend. Tonight I needed to add the Contest Caledar to my bookmarks, so Googled Contest Calendar. I then saw... WA7BNM Contest Calendar Main Page - 7 visits - Aug 8 Since this is a new PC with a fresh Windows XP install, how does Google and/or Firefox know when I previously visited the Contest Calendar? Cookies transferable? Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] A Word About Hamspots
Digital mode enthusiasts will be familiar with this group's sked page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ and also the PSK Reporter pages. Recently the Hamspots page has been revamped, check it at http://www.hamspots.net . These pages always seem much less used that I would like but the Hamspots page lately seems quite active, especially the 30M page http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !
An update on this issue... I have successfully installed an OLD HD with Windows XP in to a new PC as a primary drive. I did not intend to do this, after lightning zapped two PCs lately, I bought a cheap Dell via Ebay! You get what you pay for because within a few hours the new Ebay PC's Hard Drive stopped working (just after I installed all the ham software! ). So, just out of interest, I took the kaput HD out and installed an old HD of the same brand. It booted up but asked for a valid product key. I called Microsoft for assistance and they ask for a series of numbers generated by Windows after I input the XP key from my OLD PC. Yes, despite no use for 2 years I still had the case of my old Emachines PC, the same PC whose HD and OS I was now using in a Dell. The Microsoft rep used the numbers I gave him to generate a NEW key. I used the new key and then was able to re-install Windows XP from a HD partition. I then updated to SP3, also need to validate again but the key from the back of the old PC worked. I'm still updating as I type but so far so good. So now my $46 Dell boots up as an Emachine ! I am not sure exactly what I did but it looks like the answer to my original question is that you CAN install a old HD and OS in to a different PC provided you use the product key from your old machine. Here's hoping that no more HD die or PC get zapped for a while, I'm getting tired of installing software repeatedly. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] More on RS ID ... the pleasure of
I know several have written about RS ID now that it is fully implemented in Multipsk, DM780, Pocketdigi, and Fldigi. I have been off the air for a few weeks , today I installed software on my new PC (DX Lab Suite, Multipsk, HRD/DM780 and FLdigi always go on a new PC first! ) I booted up DM780 to take a look since I am a little behind in the latest developments for DM780, I heard NO signals on the band but within the first minute I saw RSID:THOR 16 f=2Ø4ØHz I clicked to allow the RS ID and saw CQ CQ de VE9NC VE9NC CQ CQ de VE9NC VE9NC I am going to work now, but have decided to leave DM780 active and my rig on 20M just to see what modes DM780 detects while I am out. The 3 Khz spread my rig limits me to gets to be a little sad when compared to a SDR bandwidth, maybe I'll play around with Commander and see if I can scan different 3 kHz sections a few minutes at a time. -- Andy
[digitalradio] Re: More on RS ID ... the pleasure of
- I am going to work now, but have decided to leave DM780 active and my rig on 20M just to see what modes DM780 detects while I am out. The 3 Khz spread my rig limits me to gets to be a little sad when compared to a SDR bandwidth, maybe I'll play around with Commander and see if I can scan different 3 kHz sections a few minutes at a time. -- Andy Yes, using Commander, I set the dwell time for scanning to just 3 seconds. I am scanning four 3Khz segments over 12 seconds. I may miss a few RS IDs but it should be interesting.
[digitalradio] Olivia/MT63 setting/ was Soliciting suggestions
Howard, Before you buy MixW, did you try Multipsk? It may be able to do what your group wants while awaiting Fldigi fixes. Andy
[digitalradio] Re: Digial Meteors
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote: All, The Perseids meteor shower is at it's peak. Good opportunity to get your feet wet on VHF meter meteor scatter. See http://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalk / ttp://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ Tony -K2MO Agreed. My new PC arrived today and I hope to get everything installed so I can try some 6M MS tonight. I have been without digital modes for 2 weeks! Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Soliciting suggestions- ALE is the answer
While awaiting Winmor, the only real alternatives are NBEMS/FLARQ, ALE, or PSKMAIL. ALE is, in my opinion, the best conceptually. It is free and does not need any fancy modems. It does require a network of stations world-wide and a fairly hefty (good SNR) signal to make a link. There is a basic network that exists, triple the size of it, and it would really do well. Maintaining a listen before transmitting ethic would help with some current objections to the unattended soundings aspects of ALE. Switching from standard ALE to ALE 400 would probably be best in the long run. Both NBEMS and PSKMAIL would also work, same thing though. They need a network of active stations, if they had this, they would work well. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] New to SSTV
Bob. It has been a couple of years since I have used it but will be glad to try a sked. You can also tune to 14233 and usually find signals to decode.We can use the digitalradio sked page to coordinate things if needed. Andy K3UK On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:17 AM, AD5VJ Bobrt...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I just downloaded and installed EasyPal and after a few hours have the code for PTT figured out and have it working from what I can tell on my dummy load. Is there anyone on the group that would meet me on a frequency so I could test it out over the air tonight? Bob AD5VJ -- Andy
[digitalradio] New MFJ PIC TNC
FYI, MFJ will be releasing a PIC based TNC . Not sure when they will announce, but the deal was signed last week. -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] New to SSTV
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:33 AM, AD5VJ Bobrt...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Sure good deal where is that page please? Bob AD5VJ http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/
Re: [digitalradio] New to SSTV/Easypal
Yes Bob, Easypal is cool all a round. I still think it is under used for non-picture use, great for message handling. Andy K3UK On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM, AD5VJ Bobrt...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:46 PM, AD5VJ Bobrt...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Garrett Thanks very much for the information, I am a sponge right now so all information is good Hi Hi I didn't realize it but when I went to bed last night I left the rig on 14.233 because I was listening for DX. I have 5 call signs in the log and just rx a really cool pic of a cockpit in an airplane of some kind. This is just too cool for words (guess we'll have to use pictures). Bob AD5VJ
Re: [digitalradio] Russian PSK
Ian, this old message (below) seems to imply that Multipsk will do it. Andy K3UK Hello Simon, Cyrillic characters pertains to a specific ANSI table (for 128 to 255) which is installed in Russian, Ukrainians...computers (ASCII being common to all tables). You have nothing to do except let all the characters for 128 to 255 free (not used as I did in the first versions of Multipsk). If so you will pass all languages except ideograms writings (as Japonese) which need a specific handling of a aspecial editotr (IDE) which is complex to manage (i.e I fail to do it simple). I don't know for semitic languages where you have to type from right to left. TKS if some Ham using this writing could tell us how they manage this and if they success with digital programs editors. 73 Patrick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Ian Wade G3NRWg3...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I am interested in carrying out QSOs with Russian stations in Russian. Is there any PSK program that supports Cyrillic character set (screen and keyboard)? -- 73 Ian, G3NRW -- Andy
[digitalradio] Software defined receivers, versus transceivers, for digital modes ?
I note that Flexradio is introducing a QRP SDR transceiver later this year for under US$700 , it will be general coverage and support all HF bands. I'm mainly interested in SDR for the ability to monitor a whole band for digital signals and it occurred to me to that perhaps a receiver, as opposed to a transceiver, might be useful. Then, switch to my other rigs for transmit. It may be a step backwards to the days of separates , anyone tried this? Are there any multiband SDR receivers with all the usual amateur radio bells and whistles? -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Software defined receivers, versus transceivers, for digital modes ?
The Softrock radios make me a little nervouse because their availability seems sporadic and their website makes you wonder if they are still a full busines. Is the V9 mentioned in this thread a multiband? Ideally hams would be beter off with one SDR that covers 80-10 rather thans several for each band. Also,I would like to avoid kits. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Simon (HB9DRV)simon.br...@kns.ch wrote: - Original Message - From: Bill V WA7NWP wa7...@gmail.com For a starter, how about a 10 KHz version of the QPSKx25 mode... Well - this assumes you have a SDR transmitter of course, but the SDR SoftRock is cheap and more than good enough. With a simple 10 watt amp you'll have everything needed... Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Russian PSK
Perhaps http://www.kostis.net/charsets/iso8859.5.htm On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Patrick Lindeckerf6...@free.fr wrote: Simon, I don't know exactly, but the ISO8859-5 is for Cyrillic. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Simon (HB9DRV) simon.br...@kns.ch To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Russian PSK Patrick, What table - this is what we need to know. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker f6...@free.fr Note for information: there is no special to do except be able to code/decode all characters between CHR(128) and CHR(255). If the users work with the same table all is OK. This apply to Russian and all the languages using specific ANSI tables. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?
Amazing, many thanks. Andy On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM, boeing52auseve...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Also try http://www.marinetraffic.com -- Andy
[digitalradio] HamSpots.net back online
-- Forwarded message -- From: Laurie, VK3AMA grou...@vk3ama.com Date: Aug 1, 2009 6:16 AM Subject: [30MDG] HamSpots.net back online To: 30...@yahoogroups.com Hello everyone, Sorry for the extended downtime of HamSpots.net It is now back online. Some things to note. -- New simpler URLs for band/mode/group pages and rss feeds for each. -- The 30M page URL is http://www.HamSpots.net/30/http://www.hamspots.net/30/ -- The 30M RSS feed (of local spots) URL is http://www.HamSpots.net/rss/30/http://www.hamspots.net/rss/30/ -- Spots are Local and don't go to the live Cluster. -- Cluster spots are filtered for the appropriate Band/mode display. -- Auto lookup and display of Club membership numbers in both Local and Cluster displays. -- Club membership numbers are also included in the RSS feed of Local spots. -- You only need to Sign In' if you want to post spots and messages. -- Guest mode allows you to view spots without the need to Sign In. -- Your login Name Callsign are remembered between browser sessions (if you have cookies enabled). I have tested the page layouts extensively in several modern standards compliant browsers (Firefox, Safari, etc) as well as older versions of Internet Explorer (which usually breaks page layouts). If you experience broken pages/layouts, please let me know. 73 de Laurie, VK3AMA -- Andy
[digitalradio] Fwd: EPC Russia DX Contest - 2009
Amateurs all over the world ! Welcome to participate in the EPC RUSSIA DX Contest-2009 ! 1st EPC RUSSIA DX CONTEST - 22 aug 03:00 UTC ~ 23 aug 03:00 UTC - modes BPSK63 and QPSK63. RULES: http://eu.srars.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=131Itemid=96 FILES for MixW: http://www.digitalrus.ru/Files/StatsEPCRU.zip Unzip the contents of StatsEPCRU.zip to your MixW / Plugins directory. ADJUSTING MIXW FOR EPC RUSSIA DX CONTEST: http://www.epc-ru.ru/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=199Itemid=113 We hope to see you at EPCRUDXC-2009! Best wishes! 73!!! -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] re: www.n2ckh.com/PC_ALE_FORUM
Thanks Steve, good to see. Andy K3UK On 7/31/09, shajducek n2...@mchsi.com wrote: Hello Andy and All, The replacement for Charles old open web site for PC-ALE is now up and running as of today at: www.n2ckh.com/PC_ALE_FORUM I am still quite busy and have not re-enabled live e-mails from this forum due to its heavy message load. So for those that are not members of the HFlink forum, questions on PC-ALE for me via this forum will not get a fast response, instead I would recommend sending them direct. /s/ Steve, N2CKH -- Andy
[digitalradio] digital mode emcomm simulated drills
There appears to be a large group of hams in this group that have an interest in digital modes for emergency communication . I wonder if we might want to have a quarterly drill of some time where we activate and use NBEMS.,ALE, PSK MAIL. possibly WINMOR (when available)? Does anyone have any ideas on how we might organize this ? I am aware than local ARES groups in the USA might do something, but I am interested in so periodic international drill . Ideas ? -- Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Re: Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, David djm...@... wrote: Hi All...have tried to see if Shipplotter will run on Linux under Wine have got the GUI up and it seems as if may be working ok. havent got the hardware to fully try it out. 73 David VK4BDJ Thanks to all for the tips. What hardware is needed David ?
[digitalradio] Mic to speaker method of digital xmision
While awaiting arrival of a new shack PC (SLOW ebay dealer) I have resorted to using my laptop to receive digital modes and have even made a qso or two my holding the rig's mic to the laptop speaker!I am not able to hook-up the laptop to my digital interface. When using microphone to speaker and manually PTTing, what would the best technique be for a cleaner signal ? Low speaker volume and mic closer to speaker? Louder volume and mic a couple of inches away from speaker ? -- Andy
[digitalradio] Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?
Does anyone know what mode is used to transmit AIS information on VHF maritime channels ? -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?
Thanks Dave, is it via some sort of data burst? On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM, nf2g d...@nf2g.com wrote: All emissions on those channels are FM. 73 de Dave, NF2G __._,
[digitalradio] CQ Hawaii
I need a LOTW verified QSO with a station in Hawaii via any valid digital mode . This is all I need to accomplished the ARRL LOTW Triple Play award. Any Hawaii stations on this list ?
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?
Any public domain software that can decode it ? On 7/29/09, aa777888athotmaildotcom aa777...@hotmail.com wrote: They are not normal FM transmissions. AIS uses an emission designator of 16K0FD. More specifically, a 9.6kbps GMSK FM modulation using HDLC packet protocols. Almost everything you need to know is right here: http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/enav/ais/default.htm Scott --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@... wrote: Thanks Dave, is it via some sort of data burst? On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM, nf2g d...@... wrote: All emissions on those channels are FM. 73 de Dave, NF2G __._, -- Andy
[digitalradio] 9 years ago today : Digital groups merging
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew J. O'Brien obrie...@... wrote: As was discussed a few weeks ago, the egroup RADIODATADECODING , is merging it's subscribers with the DIGITALRADIO reflector run by Andy O'Brien KB2EOQ at www.egroups.com/group/digitalradio . Digitalradio has 165 active subscribers and subscription invitations have been sent to the 50 radiodatadecoding members that did not already belong to digitalradio. Thanks to Andrew Nicholson for a great job with radiodatadecoding and for his suggestion that his group join Digitalradio. Assuming that many of the fifty join digitalradio , we will then have over 200 active members making it one of the most active reflectors for the digital ham or SWL. Digitalradio has many of the authors of current software amongst it's membership al supports conversation about ALL digital modes and all related software applications. A files section also contains many of the free digital radio software products . http://www.egroups.com/files/digitalradio/ Welcome to our new members 73 de Andy KB2EOQ
[digitalradio] Hop, skip and jump away ... powerful, ALE implementation that would outperform MIL-STD-188-141A ?
Regarding this message below, from the RS-ID thread, can someone elaborate ? What lightweight ALE implementation ? Andy K3UK You know what's really exciting? We are a hop, skip and jump away from a powerful, lightweight ALE implementation that would probably outperform MIL-STD-188-141A by a large margin. Right now the code scans an entire 3KHz bandwidth for RSID (or more with SDR). When you add in the future, planned SELCAL feature the only things missing after that are scanning and an automated response. It also appears possible that the software would be capable of automatically choosing an empty spot on the waterfall to make the call. This would allow all calls to occur simultaneously and therefore I would suggest time synchronized scanning a la JT65 or WSPR in order to improve probability of intercept without long or repetitive RSID transmissions. Say 4 second dwell per band to allow a +/-1 second guard band on the timing (given a 2 second RSID transmission length). The occasional collision would be worth the simplicity and reliability. -- Andy
[digitalradio] Addonics converter: Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !
Thanks Dave, they must be popular... they are out of stock of the $59.00 model I am interested in. Andy K3UK On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Dave AA6YQ aa...@ambersoft.com wrote: Addonics makes a product that lets you convert any IDE drive into an external USB drive. Access via USB is significantly slower than native IDE access, but you can connect to any PC with a USB interface; perhaps they have a USB 2.0 version by now: http://www.addonics.com/products/io/ While converters like these are somewhat slow, they allow you to connect a drive up to a running PC -- eliminating the need to power it down, open its chassis, and make the IDE or SATA connection -- which can be difficult in a smaller chassis stuffed with cables.
Re: [digitalradio] Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !
Thanks Rick. Kinda like buying a car and it being rendered inoperative if I installed a new engine. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Rick Ellison relli...@twcny.rr.com wrote: My local computer store tells me that one cannot simply take a hard drive from a old Pc and place it in a new PC even if you have a Windows license disc for the new PC. Is this correct? Unless you install it in a computer that has the exact same hardware (Motherboard, Video, Ect.) yes this is true. 9 out of 10 times the system will crash because you are trying to load drivers for hardware that is not present…. 73 Rick N2AMG *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew O'Brien *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:38 PM *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [digitalradio] Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows ! After years or running PC's without issues, I have had 4 go bad in 12 months. Two this week, 4 days apart via thunderstorms . One went today just an hour after I had fully reinstalled ham equipment on a new PC that arrived yesterday. The new one survived, I had unplugged it at the sound of thunder. I powered off the older one but forgot to remove the power cord, it got zapped. I put in a spare power supply that i had, that lasted 5 minutes and gave up the ghost. Maybe something else was weakened by the original zap and caused the second power supply to burn out. Anyway, my main issue is the frustrating fact that I have data on hard drives that seems ridiculously complex to retrieve when using Windows based PCs. My local computer store tells me that one cannot simply take a hard drive from a old Pc and place it in a new PC even if you have a Windows license disc for the new PC. Is this correct? In the past I have taken old drives and installed them in different PC's as slave drives. However this causes one to have to re-install many programs because they were originally installed to the registry on a C-drive. So what do I do with 5 hard drives laying around the shack ? In particular one two-drive system with 160 gigs of useful data on it (both have Windows OS on them since both are from different original PC systems!) . It would be nice to install in to a PC without having to get a HD with an OS on it. -- Andy -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !
yes, I thought of that Skip. I am looking for a copy of my working Puppy, cleaned the shack last week and have misplaced it. I should point out that I am close to having almost everything I need ,expect OS, backed up on teh web and accessible when I need to start over. I have my log backed up and I email it to myself as an attachment via Gmail, then use products like DXLab, HRD, Fldigib that can easily be reinstalled for free, and my Multipsk license is also backup via the Internet. Today's zapped computer however contains 20 gigs of paid for Itunes stuff. Luckily a nifty program call copytrans allows me to retrieve back to Itunes from the Ipod. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:47 PM, kh6ty kh...@comcast.net wrote: Andy, Try running a NBEMS Puppy Linux CD live. You can access all the data and windows partitions with Puppy from the Puppy Desktop. 73, Skip KH6TY Andrew O'Brien wrote: After years or running PC's without issues, I have had 4 go bad in 12 months. Two this week, 4 days apart via thunderstorms . One went today just an hour after I had fully reinstalled ham equipment on a new PC that arrived yesterday. The new one survived, I had unplugged it at the sound of thunder. I powered off the older one but forgot to remove the power cord, it got zapped. I put in a spare power supply that i had, that lasted 5 minutes and gave up the ghost. Maybe something else was weakened by the original zap and caused the second power supply to burn out. Anyway, my main issue is the frustrating fact that I have data on hard drives that seems ridiculously complex to retrieve when using Windows based PCs. My local computer store tells me that one cannot simply take a hard drive from a old Pc and place it in a new PC even if you have a Windows license disc for the new PC. Is this correct? In the past I have taken old drives and installed them in different PC's as slave drives. However this causes one to have to re-install many programs because they were originally installed to the registry on a C-drive. So what do I do with 5 hard drives laying around the shack ? In particular one two-drive system with 160 gigs of useful data on it (both have Windows OS on them since both are from different original PC systems!) . It would be nice to install in to a PC without having to get a HD with an OS on it. -- Andy -- *Skip KH6TY* http://KH6TY.home.comcast.net -- Andy
[digitalradio] Fldigi Linux CD
Can someone point me to a free ISO burner and also a current link for a ISO file so that I can burn a new bootable Linus FL-digi? Thanks
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!/ Revised Suggested Calling QRGs?
I have noticed the same increase Tony, nice to see. I wonder if we should redefine suggested calling frequencies for the non-PSK31/RTTY CQ and keep people away from JT65A frequencies and ALE frequencies . Seems to me that the complicated suggestions for Olivia QSOs are no longer needed. ? How about dial frequencies of 14073, 21073, 28123, 3583, 7038, 10143 all USB ? Vary the center frequency according to the mode selected , qsy if frequency is busy. I am sure someone will point out the potential conflicts. I am deliberately suggesting frequencies CLOSE to the PSK31 areas so that those using PSK31 might hear the signals within their passband, and also so those using the frequencies to call CQ in more exotic modes can also monitor PSK31 (I often have two applications open when monitoring active digital mode portions of a band.) Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] New 40m Band Plan
I did not know that, but have noticed less Europeans at 7035, Andy K3UK On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Andrew es...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone noticed that the band plan for 40m has been changed. I for one had not seen it. It has changed the frequency for digi modes from the 7035 area up to 7040 to 7047. I still hear most stations around 7035 Link is below Andy LY/ES2DY
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Digital modes and old husband's tales
Ed. this is very useful information , thanks for sharing it. I will check that section written by Patrick Andy -- Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Re: Double Entries on Waterfall
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Ralph Lambert ralph.lamb...@... wrote: Why do I sometimes see double entries for the same call sign in the waterfall. Is this some one working split? It seems like it is a duplex issue or am I way off the boat on this one? 73, Ralph (AJ4GR) How do you know they are doubles? You can expect to see doubles if using multiple decode options like those listed as stations heard in Winwarbler or in the panoramic view in Multipsk. In regular decode for BPSK31 you can also see a harmonic every 1000 Hz if a station is transmitting with a badly over driven signal. You may simply be seeing other close by signals, or possibly mistaking the two parallel vertical lines normally seen in BPSK31. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Digital modes and old husband's tales
The replies to Ralph's question about audio levels appear to be sound advice and certainly in keeping with what has been advised since sound card digital modes burst upon the scene. I wonder how accurate it is though?I have seen a few serious hams argue that no ALC is not really the case, that some ALC can be OK. I have also seen mention that the no ALC issue applies to some modes (like PSK) but not to others like (JT65A). I also wonder about the half-power advice that some advise. With my homebrewed interface, I could never get much above 40 watts before some ALC began to show. When I switched to a commerical interface with good isolation (Microkeyer by Microham) I can almost always get 100 watts output without any ALC action. I have not received any negative reports about my signal . If I run 100 watts SSB for phone contacts, why would I not want to do the same for digital modes assuming the signal was clean ? . Yes, I would agree I should not run 100 watts if communication was possible with less power, but I don't think a brief PSK CQ at 100 watts is going to do much more harm to my finals than a 3 minute ragchew at 50 watts, phone . Right ? Comments ? -- Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Double Entries on Waterfall
Let me try again, Sheesh ! Can you actually decode text from the same station on two different parts of the waterfall? How far apart on your waterfall are these doubles ? How do you know they are doubles? I don't, that's why I was asking the question. Sheesh! - Ralph (AJ4GR)
[digitalradio] Re: Call for TAPR PSR Journal Articles TAPR PSR On-Line
Mark, the call for papers has already been posted on this list. Andy. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mark Thompson wb9qzb_gro...@... wrote: TAPR PSR Jounrnal On-Line http://www.tapr.org/psr.html -Original Message- From: Stan Horzepa stanz...@... To: tapr-annou...@... Sent: Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:07 pm Subject: [tapr-announce] write now This is Stan announcing that the TAPR editorial board is now considering articles for the Summer issue of our quarterly newsletter, Packet Status Register (PSR). If you would like to submit anything for PSR, please e-mail it to me, your PSR editor, as soon as possible. (The PSR deadline is July 31.)� � Remember, each piece that is published in PSR extends your TAPR membership by three months!� � 73,� � Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU, PSR Editor� � ___� tapr-announce mailing list�
[digitalradio] QST submission on RS-ID
I'll draft something this weekend and send to Steve for his review. I may contact Patrick, Simon, Skip or Dave for some technical details if I need to. I worked with Steve on a couple of items for his column in the past (I think the last one was guide to JT65A on HF) . Steve sometimes likes good pictures, so I'll try to create a couple for him. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Re: Radio Wiring Question
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Scott Thayer firebug...@... wrote: Good day to everyone - I recently got a Icom IC-701 - and would love to get it hooked up to the computer, so I can start doing some digital stuff - their is a 24-pin accessory jack on the back - no problem with getting the audio out, just can't figure out where the data in from the computer would go? I have the data on the pin-out I can send to whoever wants to take a look at it. I am also interested in getting this radio working with ham radio deluxe if possible - so I am assuming in order to make that work - I will need to figure out what pin in the data in for the radio - and then I will also have to deal with all the other wires for the radio control part - what is the easiest way to make that interface? - is it designed to work through the serial port? Thanks for any help anyone can give me -is whole world of HF is new to me and then adding the computer stuff on top of it LOL. I have got it figured out how to get my FT-60 and FT-8800 up on digital stuff - but no not much of that going on their with VHF / UHF. If you need more info, please let me know Scott, W7SOT Scott, the August 1984 QST (page 19) has details about this. I do not have access to it but perhaps someone does. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Re: Frederick Communications model 1102 HF modem
NSGD has a web site for maintenance documents but you need a password to access http://www.support.nsgdata.com/maintenance_customers/ Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Luzem�rio luzema...@... wrote: Hello All, I got a old 1102 HF modem. I plan to use it for digital modes, but it is very hard to find any documentation. I sent a e-mail to NSGDatacomm, the actual manufacturer, in a desperate try to buy a manual, but they simply ignored me. Does anyone knows this equipment? I do not know it, and need to make connections and configuration. Any help will be greatly appreciated. 73 de PT2LDR
[digitalradio] JT65B and C versus JT65A
While addressing an ARRL LOTW uploading issue with JT65 modes, I began to be intrigued about B and C that I have never tried . Here is an old 2004 explanation from Joe Taylor. Interesting ,at that time , that he was suggesting JT65B be the standard Mode Spacing Total BW - JT65A2.7 Hz 177.6 Hz JT65B5.4 355.3 JT65C 10.8 710.6 Note that JT65A is identical to the original JT65. If you want to work people who have not yet upgraded to v4.3.3, be sure to select mode JT65A. Otherwise, be sure to use the same mode that your QSO partner is using. Cross-mode contacts will not work. JT65B should be nearly as sensitive as JT65A, and it will be twice as forgiving of frequency instabilities. On balance, with existing stock radios, JT65B will probably be better than JT65A. JT65C is less sensitive by a small amount, perhaps 1 dB, but will be even more lenient on stability issues. By all means experiment with the different submodes, and be sure to let me know your conclusions about them! I am presently inclined to recommend that JT65B should become the standard JT65 mode. If this tentative conclusion holds up, future versions of the program may no longer support the A and C modes.
[digitalradio] North American Field Day: What u doing ?
I have been the digital ringer for a few clubs in the past few years, bringing lots of gear and demonstrating how digital modes work. This year I am not going to a highly competitive club, will do some casual CW for a local club and may do some really LOW tech digital modes operations. Instead of bringing my own gear, or getting frustrated setting up my laptop and software with other people's rigs... I'm going to run digital modes with wires. Microphone held to speakers! I think I should be able to make a few contacts at least! Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Peek-a-boo sound devices
I use an internal sound card for ham operations and an external sound device , in the form of USB speakers, for routine PC/Internet work including DX announcements via Spotcollector. This works well except that every know and again ham applications that have been working well via the internal sound device all of a sudden have their settings switched and the sound for transmission gets sent to my speakers rather than to the rig. I can't figure out what triggers this? Sometimes Multipsk, Winwarbler, and WSJT, just tell me that USB AUDIO is set for my transmitted audio even though I had manually set it for the other device. It seems that is connected with changes I may make, like unplugging and then plugging in the USB speakers if I need to borrow the USB ports for something else for a few minutes. I have missed few QSOs when caught by surprise with the wrong xmit card. Ideas ?
[digitalradio] EME/Joe Taylor featured in New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/technology/27moon.html By ASHLEE VANCE Published: June 26, 2009 PALO ALTO, Calif. Dogs bay at it. Lovers swoon under it. And some people like to bounce their voices off it. Michael Cousins, an engineer at SRI International, a non-profit that operates the dish, center, in the control room, with Ham operators Lance Ginner, left, and Jim Klassen. A radio dish at Stanford is powerful enough to bounce signals off the moon, a tricky endeavor. The first two are easy, but sending a voice signal 239,200 miles to the moon and back is not quite as simple. On Saturday, amateur radio buffs or hams, as they call themselves, will hold a global bounce-fest, using as many giant parabolic antenna radio telescopes as they can borrow around the world. Not that one needs an excuse to hold a moon-bounce, but this one is being held as a kind of advance celebration of the 40th anniversary next month of the Apollo 11 mission. Moon-bouncing, also known as Earth-Moon-Earth communications, or E.M.E. requires a higher grade of ham-radio technology than that used for traditional earth-bound communication across parts of the radio spectrum approved by governments for amateur use. Only about 1,000 hams worldwide have stations capable of moon-bouncing. Skill and luck also help. As the hams say, the moon is a poor sounding board, since it is spinning and has a rough surface that can disrupt signals. The hams' voices must survive atmospheric interference over the long round-trip journey in a discernible form. It's the equivalent of climbing Mount Everest in amateur radio, said Joseph H. Taylor Jr., a Nobel Prize winner and retired physics professor from Princeton University who has written software to help radio buffs communicate via weak signals. It's possible, but only barely possible. Large dishes like those owned by the government and communications companies can solve many of these problems by making it easier to send and receive signals. That's why the hobbyists have searched out retired or rarely used dishes. So far, operators of about 20 large dishes in the United States, Australia and Europe have agreed to participate in the event. One of them is located on a hill overlooking Stanford University's campus, and will serve as the command center for the weekend's event. Known simply as the Dish, the 150-foot-wide antenna, owned by the federal government, will be outfitted with special equipment and a computerized tracking system to keep a powerful, focused signal on the moon. A handful of radio enthusiasts have been working on the structure over the last few weeks, huddling inside a central command center below the towering, rusting web of metal. They gathered around whirring communications gear as if it were a campfire and chortled with satisfaction when their hellos bounced back from the moon 2.5 seconds later. There is a point beyond the because it's there challenge. The hams also hope to inspire young technology buffs. People think of ham radio as something Grandpa did down in the basement while he smoked and talked to people around the world, said Pat Barthelow, who has organized the worldwide moon-bounce, called Echoes of Apollo. I think moon-bounce retains an exoticness and difficulty that can hook some people and bring ham radio into the modern era. Creating a homemade radio capable of hitting the moon can require years of tweaking custom components. The setups cost $200 to $2,000. The United States military began bouncing radio signals off the moon in the 1950s to communicate over long distances when other transmission methods were hampered by atmospheric disruptions. By the mid-1960s, operators at large dishes started building amateur systems capable of moon-bouncing. In 1964, Michael Staal accomplished the feat, linking a setup at Stanford to another one in Australia. I got famous very quickly, said Mr. Staal, who sells antennas to ham radio operators. Moon-bouncers often hold contests where they must hunt around different frequencies and both send and receive a signal with another station, logging their activities for review. They're forbidden from communicating with each other via non-lunar means during the contests, and often win a certificate or free subscription to a ham magazine as prizes for making contact with as many others hams as they can. It is the thrill of pulling a weak signal out from a long distance that excites the amateur radio folks, said Jim Klassen, a ham in Reedley, Calif.
[digitalradio] New version of Mixw
http://mixw.net/files/MixW219b5.zip Andy K3UK
