Hi All,
After reading your comments, I think Django should keep supporting only
open source databases, as well as other staff (operating systems, packages)
and drop support for the closed source databases, operating systems etc. It
seems to me that some of you think supporting Oracle was a
As a commercial user of all the builltin DB backends and the MSSQL backend
(both the MS fork and its parent), I tend to agree more with Florian's
arguments.
Our experience with the MS MSSQL and Oracle DB backends in supporting our
enterprise customers have been difficult at best, in comparison to
Thanks for the thoughtful replies, and the context - I'm mostly in
agreement, and do hope that both Oracle and Microsoft step up as corporate
sponsors (not to mention other companies that have been sold for eight or
nine figures).
My hope is that we can give credit where credit is due, and
Hi Tim,
On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 5:02:00 PM UTC+2 Tim Allen wrote:
> The DB popularity index at db-engines.com has regularly listed the top
> four as Oracle, MySQL, Microsoft SQL Server, and PostgreSQL, in that order.
> I notice some comments in this thread about Microsoft being
Warren,
We all know support for an RDBMS matters a lot in enterprise corporate
environments. I think having this support in the
https://github.com/microsoft organization is probably better for MSSQL
users.
Coordinating support between a support organization, open source
components, and Django is
Hey Tim.
FWIW I have directly asked people at Oracle if they would take up a
corporate sponsorship of the DSF in order to help support the ongoing
maintenance of the backend.
Again, it was almost like I hadn't said anything. Rather than a Yes or a
No, they did instead offer some cloud hosting,
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> Full disclosure
Allen
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:02 AM
To: Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)
Subject: Re: Revisiting MSSQL and Azure SQL Support in Django
Full disclosure: I've helped maintain SQL Server Django engine packages in the
past, and was involved in getting the project started
Full disclosure: I've helped maintain SQL Server Django engine packages in
the past, and was involved in getting the project started for the official
Microsoft Django engine package.
First, thanks to Warren and the folks from Microsoft for creating this
backend. There are a fair amount of
Hi,
IMO, Django is there to create value for *its* users.
I'm not aware how MS Team reached this conclusion that merging their incomplete
package into Django core creates more value for Django users than when it is a
third-party package. Would you please tell me how?
I have access to only two
> Then there is also the question on how to ensure continued commitment
from Microsoft -- what happens when Microsoft (or the current PM/PO or
whatever) looses interest?
IMO. This is the biggest one.
What I'd expect to see here is MS taking up a long-term corporate
sponsorship of the DSF,
Hi Waren,
On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:30:06 PM UTC+2 vwa...@gmail.com wrote:
> We'd love to hear thoughts and feedback around the possibility of moving
> forward with a DEP enhancement proposal, with a commitment from Microsoft
> to providing continued dedicated support for the 1st party
My 2c;
The technical board has always done a stellar job of ensuring that good
ideas end up in the code base, and unfinished, unsupported, incomplete,
young, or non-reviewed code stays outside.
The quality of the core framework, and the ease of having 3rd party code
exist as Extensions, Plug-ins
Thanks for the feedback Adam. Your suggestions are actionable and potential
sponsorship has been raised for discussion as recently as this week (no
promises or strings attached).
We'll reach out to you directly if we have any direct follow-up on filling
in the feature gaps.
-Warren
On
Hi again Warren,
Good work on maintaining the backend.
Merging the backend could be a good end goal, but I'd be concerned about
merging it in the current state. The README lists many features that don't
work: https://github.com/microsoft/mssql-django#limitations . This list
includes some key
Hi All,
There is increasing interest within Microsoft to have stronger ties between
Microsoft SQL Server and Django. As you may be aware, Microsoft and their
connectivity teams have been managing the 3rd party backend for
"mssql-django" for over a year now at:
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