[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread Gabor Kelemen
Hi all 2016-12-16 16:13 keltezéssel, Jan Holesovsky írta: > The idea is to get rid of the 'oldref' attribute in the help files; ie. > change > >l10n="U" oldref="13">Heading > > to > >l10n="U">Heading I did not realized oldref being part of msgctxt, so in my recent help commits removed a

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Hi, Jan, 2016-12-16 17:38 GMT+01:00 Jan Holesovsky : > > It does not seem transparent for the few languages that do not use > pootle (sl and sr) please do not forget those. > > Thanks for the reminder. I hope Cloph can do the upgrade for them some > way that fits them too,

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 05:51:41PM +0100, khagaroth wrote: > > there are many ways how to describe the same thing in html ('s and 's > > vs. and vs. 's with css vs. who-knows-what) > > CSS is the preferred way, its the same as with styles and direct formatting > in Writer. CSS is preferred for

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread Michael Stahl
On 12/16/2016 05:38 PM, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > * there are many ways how to describe the same thing in html ('s and > 's vs. and vs. 's with css vs. who-knows-what) > which would make the help harder to maintain, if we eg. want to reuse > the information from there to generate other

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi All Em 16/12/2016 14:51, khagaroth escreveu: >> it seems the goal is to move away from .xhp to .xhtml >> >> I hope you meant HTML 5, because XHTML is a dead end (and good riddance). > html does not have markup for some of the semantics that we have (and need) >> in the help files (like or

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] XHP cleanup

2016-12-16 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Bubli, Katarina Behrens píše v Pá 16. 12. 2016 v 18:20 +0100: > > Going further, we can later change 'paragraph' to 'p', introduce 'h2' as > > a shortcut for too, if we with so; > > but for the moment, I think there are XHP features that are worth > > keeping, because as a format, it gives

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi, khagaroth píše v Pá 16. 12. 2016 v 17:51 +0100: > > I hope you meant HTML 5, because XHTML is a dead end (and good riddance). > > html does not have markup for some of the semantics that we have (and need) > > in the help files (like or to name few) > > > > Both and are part of HTML 5

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] XHP cleanup

2016-12-16 Thread Katarina Behrens
Hello world & Kendy, > Going further, we can later change 'paragraph' to 'p', introduce 'h2' as > a shortcut for too, if we with so; > but for the moment, I think there are XHP features that are worth > keeping, because as a format, it gives more semantics to the text than a > plain HTML would

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread khagaroth
> > it seems the goal is to move away from .xhp to .xhtml > > I hope you meant HTML 5, because XHTML is a dead end (and good riddance). html does not have markup for some of the semantics that we have (and need) > in the help files (like or to name few) > Both and are part of HTML 5 and

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Jan, Jan Iversen píše v Pá 16. 12. 2016 v 16:27 +0100: > > this change is supposed to be transparent for L10n and > > Documentation teams, but they should know :-) > > It does not seem transparent for the few languages that do not use pootle (sl > and sr) please do not forget those. Thanks

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread Jan Iversen
> this change is supposed to be transparent for L10n and > Documentation teams, but they should know :-) It does not seem transparent for the few languages that do not use pootle (sl and sr) please do not forget those. It does also influence the help repo (of course), since the change will be a

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] XHP cleanup

2016-12-16 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Olivier, Olivier Hallot píše v Pá 16. 12. 2016 v 08:52 -0200: > > I am (so far) convinced that the actual format is not the real problem > > here, and that with a bit of a cleanup, XHP will be as convenient as a > > format as HTML would be - but with the advantage that: > > The format is not

[libreoffice-documentation] Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

2016-12-16 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cloph, all, I've recently proposed some help cleanups on the documentation@ ML, and this is the first one of them. I'm cross-posting to l10n@ and documentation@ - this change is supposed to be transparent for L10n and Documentation teams, but they should know :-) The idea is to get rid of

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] XHP cleanup

2016-12-16 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hello Jan Em 16/12/2016 07:21, Jan Holesovsky escreveu: > Hi, > > I was interested to hear yesterday that there were discussions about > abandoning XHP as the file format for the help files, and use plain HTML > instead. What documenters want is a easy way to insert, edit and update help

[libreoffice-documentation] XHP cleanup

2016-12-16 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi, I was interested to hear yesterday that there were discussions about abandoning XHP as the file format for the help files, and use plain HTML instead. I am (so far) convinced that the actual format is not the real problem here, and that with a bit of a cleanup, XHP will be as convenient as a