These coordinates from Tom are OK, but if
you need more info, try to get a touch with Ranko (I guess [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
73!
Goran, T98G (ex.4N4AE)
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Here's the link to the Club Fed report:
http://resourcescommittee.house.gov/democrats/backgrounders/clubfedreport.pdf
73, Zack W9SZ
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Whoa! Until some solid information comes forth that the KP1-KP5 project had a
connection with the last KP5 trip, let's NOT drag them into this!
All we know is that someone, an amateur, complained.
We do NOT know who it is.
We do NOT know where she or he actually lives.
We do NOT know their
Note what state Congressman Nick Rahall (mentioned in the report) is from.
This is the same state mentioned by N3KS at Dayton as the state where the
original complaint was registered which caused the operation to be
terminated.
Any detectives out there?
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006,
Yes, we know! Ask the NY Times!
Bill
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From: Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Peter Dougherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Scott Manthe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:04 AM
Subject: Re:
Zack Widup wrote:
Note what state Congressman Nick Rahall (mentioned in the report) is from.
This is the same state mentioned by N3KS at Dayton as the state where the
original complaint was registered which caused the operation to be
terminated.
Any detectives out there?
73, Zack W9SZ
If it were found to be that the person did it deliberately (sabotage or
jealousy, etc) they should be removed from the DXCC program! Also if I knew
the person was living in my area he/she would be shunned from any activities
by me or my clubs! I would never work them again and a QSL couldn't be
One other thought- from an FCC standpoint operating permission is not needed, but from the governing entity's position it may be very concerned about what activity it is allowing.
For example- an operating permit for a DXpedition I was on stated- "The licensee, including its officials, guests,
What is the motivation for keeping hams off KP5? From experience getting permission I can tell you- They don't want to get sued! Suppose they give permission, someone goes, and does get hurt. There is a possibilty that they will be sued, claiming they were somehow negligent. I have been told that
On Jun 29, 2006, at 4:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the motivation for keeping hams off KP5? From experience
getting permission I can tell you- They don't want to get sued!
Suppose they give permission, someone goes, and does get hurt.
There is a possibilty that they will be
Amen, Ron. The unfortunate that did this will likely be the focus of the DX
community, at least, and will probably become a pariah worldwide. Not a
consequence to be taken lightly or a tag to be assigned without absolute
proof.
73, Jerry K3BZ
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From: Ron Notarius
I believe he should be banned from DXCC for life for unsportsmanlike
conduct. I know some people take DXCC very seriously, but a
hit man is a little much :.)
He should be treated like the gold old boys in West Virginia treat
those who stick their nose in where it doesn't belong ...
On Jun 29, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Zack Widup wrote:
What is the FWS trying to do, anyway? Are they trying to
deliberately
prohibit AMATEUR RADIO operations there specifically? Why aren't they
trying to prohibit drug runners from using the island? I'm sure radio
amateurs are more conscientious
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Interesting no doubt.
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I believe a lot of state agencies have taken their lead from U.S. Government
agencies like U.S. Fish and Wildlife. Empires have been build in state
governments that prohibit taxpayers from fishing,hunting, camping, hiking,
etc as they might damage something but mainly it would make these
I've been reading everyone's thoughts on this subject and the
picture is that none of us know the real story regarding the operation. Probably
never will.
I don't understand the comments "that this has given us a
black eye".
The way I see it, that two guys asked for permission, it was
At 06:56 PM 06/29/2006, Jeffrey Davis wrote:
Perhaps prevent taxpayer money from funding amateur radio DXpeditions
in the future? My read on this may be all wrong, but it sure sounds
like Uncle Sam
funded a good part of this excursion.
Jeff, KE9V
Yes, your read on this is wrong. This was NOT
FYI,
In conversation after the Dayton DX Banquet, Kam stated he did not mean a
Ham in WV..To him a Rahall constituant meant any American citizen.. in fact
he said the Ham who complained was a W4
Mac, W8XF
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Too much assuming going on on this whole issue I think.
To many unknown facts to make fair judgments.
Carl K8AV
Jeffrey Davis wrote:
On Jun 29, 2006, at 6:56 PM, Gary McClellan wrote:
Just like the feds are funding ops from the GI's operating from
Iraq and Afghanistan? Uncle Sam
Actually the KP1-KP5 guys got the Congress involved last fall in a great
attempt to get the FWS to open up KP1 and KP5.
In fact, it was Rep. Rahall who was the sponsor of H.R.
1183.
Whoever has his ear obviously contributed big time to the Club Fed
report. It was very critical of the FWS for
--Peter that is WONDERFUL and I assume (ass u me) that you are right... I
read all of the published articles and it said nothing about a JOB.
WC7N
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From: Peter Dougherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 09:28 PM 06/29/2006, WC7N wrote:
--Peter that is WONDERFUL and I assume (ass u me) that you are
right... I read all of the published articles and it said nothing about a JOB.
I don't know any more than what I gleaned from Kam's 20+ minute
presentation of from the nice chat I had with him
It was mentioned in their original announcement of the trip to KP5.
I suspect that the hams involved aren't really able to talk much
about that aspect (I could tell you but then I'd have to shoot you),
although the New York Times will probably have a full report.
73 - Bob, N7XY
On Jun 29,
The total report text site has been given on this reflector.
We must beware of totally condemning someone who was likely exercising his
right as a citizen to petition his government. I wish he had kept quiet,
but that action, as unwise as we may think it to be, in no way excuses what
may
Well I am really pleased that the ham that attended Dayton, Ohio's ham fest
this year have a much better understanding of the Fish and Wild Life service
than the rest of the world's hams Goes to figureAt my age go ahead
and shoot me but be honest with the real details.
I lived and
Yes, and I can think of at least 3 or 4 immediately. I used to get the
football scores for one of them while he was far away from home.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, N4BAA - Jose Castillo wrote:
What's the big deal?
I have been sent to Iraq, GodDanmistan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Somalia,
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