[e-gold-list] Re: Suggestion for an exchanger?

2003-10-30 Thread Graham Kelly
Well, I can do either, or both! Contact me offlist... Graham Kelly CEO On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:15:04 -0500, Ethics [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Any suggestions for a fast, reliable, and legit exchanger for either: 1. Out exchange to Western Union or 2. Out exchange to Debit Card (I'll take

[e-gold-list] Gold Age policy

2003-10-30 Thread powerzone
Motto: You vouch for me, I vouch for you, and we both together steal from every sucker that will fall for our trick. Ragnar Dannerskjold, chief of Gold Age Graham Kelly, chief of I don't know what company It seems from the reply of Ragnar, that this is complete mockery for him. He is assured he

[e-gold-list] Re: want trade e-silver +e-platinum for e-gold

2003-10-30 Thread zenbiker
Open2Exchange is quite good, and transactions are usually almost instantaneous. Danny maintains a Yahoo! group focused on p2p swapping of the various GSR e-metals at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/e-gold-swap You can also deposit these currencies into an ALTA portfolio, sell them on the LESE, and

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Age policy

2003-10-30 Thread Mike Poulos
On Oct 30, 2003, at 3:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From 78 people who voted on the poll, only 12 considered Gold Age to be correct and trustful, 43 said Gold Age steals the money when the amount is higher than $1000, 14 said they GA steals the money if the amount is higher to $2000, and 9

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Robert B.Z.
Increasing the money supply does not necessarily imply increasing the amount of monies circulated. The fact that JP' 1MDC does not 'use' the e-gold we deposit with them, doesn't change the fact that it exists. Say you buy a house and and rent it out. You then proceed taking out a loan and buying

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Age policy THIS IS JUST TROLLING!

2003-10-30 Thread Graham Kelly
Guys, Ragnar has literally 10,000 (or more) happy customers. We all know this. Could it be that Patrik is just TROLLING? Get a life, Patrik. PLEASE. Graham Kelly CEO On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:17:05 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Motto: You vouch for me, I vouch for you, and we both together

[e-gold-list] UAE Takes Unprecedented Action on Hawala

2003-10-30 Thread zenbiker
Interesting article from the Toronto Daily Star, including commentary bu Orlin Grabbe: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/25_10_03/art27.asp Frank --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure

[e-gold-list] New $20 Bill ALREADY Causing Headaches

2003-10-30 Thread zenbiker
One would think this sort of thing would have been anticpated by the Treasury, given that they've been woring on these exciting new cat-pee-coloured twenties for some time now ... http://tinyurl.com/szhm Frank --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

[e-gold-list] #e-gold on IIP

2003-10-30 Thread zenbiker
There is an IRC e-gold discussion channel, run on the IIP server. To gain full-featured access you will need to be a user of IIP, but this is a good idea at any rate. IIP (Invisible Internet Protocol) is a program which works in conjunction with your IRC client to mask your IP and allow for

[e-gold-list] How good is gold? (was Re: e-gold for stocks)

2003-10-30 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Yes, this is true , especially in the electronic age. You're probably right there Danny, money multiplies more efficiently with modern communication systemsand ever broader assets and liabilities are able to be included in the multiplying effect :O The modern communication systems

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
but does egold expand the gold available? ... All I know is that e-gold claims that if I bail a gold bar into the e-gold system, that gold bar sits in a vault and is not used to make a loan or purchase of any kind. Thus, the gold bar itself no longer functions as money except in the form

[e-gold-list] Re: How good is gold? (was Re: e-gold for stocks)

2003-10-30 Thread Robert B.Z.
Danny, If you create 'e-land' , an e-currency backed by land ownership, you can transfer pieces of the ownership just like we do with e-gold, but this currency will be able to pay a yearly 'interest' based on the produce that comes from the land, instead of charging a storage fee for

[e-gold-list] Re: How good is gold? (was Re: e-gold for stocks)

2003-10-30 Thread FileMatrix
Danny, For example, why not an e-currency backed by real estate? It could be better than gold. A piece of land is in the same category. An acre of land today will still be the same acre of land in ??? years, ... But land does grow stuff, and that's where it beats gold. Trouble is, that

[e-gold-list] e-wine again (was:Re: How good is gold?)

2003-10-30 Thread James M. Ray
Danny Van den Berghe wrote: ... Gold does not decay, but it does also not grow. ... But land does grow stuff, and that's where it beats gold. Every 20 years I can cut big trees on the land and harvest wood, or perhaps every year I can pick apples... ... Years ago, a system for electronically

[e-gold-list] Re: How good is gold? (was Re: e-gold for stocks)

2003-10-30 Thread Robert B.Z.
George, Trouble is, that land could also grow radioactive dumps or a spaceport for turism to Jupiter. The value of that land can change because some people decide to do something with it or near it. Property value depends too much of local factors, while gold does not. --- That is correct,

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Robert B.Z.
Patrick, Just one item: Inflation isn't the same as rising prices. Not every inflation results in higher prices and higher prices are not always caused by inflation. Having an increase in the money supply with stagnant supply of goods and services only leads to higher prices when merchants charge

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 11:38 AM, Robert B.Z. wrote: Patrick, Just one item: Inflation isn't the same as rising prices. Not every inflation results in higher prices and higher prices are not always caused by inflation. Right, I'm actually well aware of this Austrian concept, where

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 08:39 AM, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: The same could be said about dollar bills sitting in a matress in India. As long as they are in the matress, they are not in fact part of the money supply. These dollars could sit in the matress for 20 years and never

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread SnowDog
So when tallying up the money supply, I would not count both a gold coin in a vault AND a paper note redeemable for that coin. That's the difference between M1 and M2 isn't it? Both terms are relevent to an economist. Sincerely, Craig (SnowDog) --- You are currently subscribed to

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 12:23 PM, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: I don't know if either of these is a better way of viewing it, or they are equivalent, or there is some other better way of viewing it. But I think there is a meaningful, well-defined distinction that can be made between a

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 12:26 PM, SnowDog wrote: So when tallying up the money supply, I would not count both a gold coin in a vault AND a paper note redeemable for that coin. That's the difference between M1 and M2 isn't it? I don't see the analogy with warehouse receipts. M1 itself

[e-gold-list] e-gold and offshore banking services

2003-10-30 Thread sales
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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread SnowDog
So when tallying up the money supply, I would not count both a gold coin in a vault AND a paper note redeemable for that coin. That's the difference between M1 and M2 isn't it? I don't see the analogy with warehouse receipts. M1 itself is a mish-mash created by printing presses and

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread jpm
Patrick I don't think it is worth arguing with Robert because he is both mad and brilliant :) JP --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your

[e-gold-list] Re: How good is gold? (was Re: e-gold for stocks)

2003-10-30 Thread jpm
Just a foot note, one problem with land specifically is that it is only owned by the Sovereign - the people who laughably think they own land are just renting it from some government (by paying land tax etc) and the land can be take back by the gov. at any time for numerous reasons In

[e-gold-list] Re: How good is gold? (was Re: e-gold for stocks)

2003-10-30 Thread Robert B.Z.
Just a comment to the footnote. As mentioned we have insurance against government actions. And we are also 25 years tax exempt on land, produce, sale, income, etc. Gold is so much easier to take and run with. Real property is slightly more difficult - especially the running part, if not the

[e-gold-list] Free e-gold or Pecunix exchange!

2003-10-30 Thread Sidd
Open2exchange is accepting exchanges from GoldMoney or e-bullion to either e-gold or Pecunix at NO COMMISSION for a limited time. In other words, you can do a straight swap, instantly... http://open2exchange.com/buy.sell...c2c Try it now, before the offer ends! --- You are currently

[e-gold-list] e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 02:35 PM, SnowDog wrote: I wasn't making such a detailed observation. I am simply pointing out that there are several definitions for 'money', each of which has use. ... Likewise, would you ever have a reason to include only notes redeemable for the gold?

[e-gold-list] All New EcMA Sign Ups Now Get Free ATM cards from Panama

2003-10-30 Thread Gold Pages Staff
Dear List members and others. The EcMA www.ecmaweb.com is now pround to announce that the next 300 members between now and January 1, 2004 will receive at no extra charge a delivered Pre-Paid Maestro/Cirrus Debit Cards issued by a well know bank in Panama. Cards will be available late December

[e-gold-list] Re: Free e-gold or Pecunix exchange!

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Sidd wrote: Open2exchange is accepting exchanges from GoldMoney or e-bullion to either e-gold or Pecunix at NO COMMISSION for a limited time. In other words, you can do a straight swap, instantly... http://open2exchange.com/buy.sell...c2c Try it now,

[e-gold-list] Re: Free e-gold or Pecunix exchange!

2003-10-30 Thread Ragnar
Patrick, Also, where in the heck is all the e-bullion these days? Are exchangers experiencing some kind of permanent shortage of e-bullion? I know I personally am getting low, but it seems like it's nowhere to be found! A little birdie told me that Gold Age has plenty of e-bullion for

[e-gold-list] Re: cazino software

2003-10-30 Thread Serge Potapov
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