Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-06 Thread Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH
I explained my problem earlier this thread. I added the routes in the endian 
GUI. But Endian does not set routes, it uses iptables. And that does not work 
for ICMP as it seems, at least not on the endian. 

 
If I set the routes manually, it works as expected. 

 
Best regards,

Marco

 
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But you need to add the route to have communication with another network.

What is the problem?

 
If your network gateway is the Endian is it then that should be the routes to 
other networks.

 
2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de 
mailto:mgabr...@inett.de 

Understood. I already tried to create a specific rule for ICMP traffic within 
the firewall (exactly at policy based routing). It showed me ICMP 8 and ICMP 30 
to allow, but that didn’t work either.

The only thing that worked so far was adding a route.


Marco

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But the issue is not the area in itself, but when do you configure a rule to 
redirect the Endian already takes care of creating a rule in the firewall to 
release this communication. What I asked was to test the firewall to create a 
rule allowing ICMP between these networks.

2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de 
mailto:mgabr...@inett.de 
There are two LANs, connected through two cisco boxes. LAN1 contains client and 
cisco box 1, LAN2 contains endian, server and cisco box 2. There is no need to 
play with the zones as everything for LAN1 should be routed through the cisco 
box 2. And that works for all services but ICMP.

Best regards,
Marco


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I understood that all involved were on the same LAN green, but in this case 
they are not.
Outside the routing would be interesting to create a rule in the firewall 
between zones. Releasing the ping between the 192.168.10.0/24 
http://192.168.10.0/24 network and the Green Zone.



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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Jonathan Lessa
the cisco vpn box 2, the Endian and other machines are on the same LAN
green? Your cisco vpn box 2 is connected directly to a network card
Endian or a switch?


2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de

 Hello,

 ** **

 I have a strange problem that may be related to the endian way of policy
 based routing.

 ** **

 ICMP packages seem not to be routed properly.

 ** **

 Client - cisco vpn box 1 - public network - cisco vpn box 2 - endian
 - server

 ** **

 RDP and other tcp/udp based services from client work, ICMP packets are
 sent to the server, the server answers but the packets seem not to be
 forwarded by the endian to the cisco vpn box 2. The cisco vpn box 2 and the
 endian are both in the same green LAN and the endian has configured a
 static route to static gateway “cisco vpn box 2”. As told, this works for
 all tested services but ICMP. 

 ** **

 If I set a route manually to the vpn box on the shell by using “route
 add”, it works. If I set a route directly on the client to the cisco box,
 it works too. 

 ** **

 So this seems to be a problem with the iptables way of routing packets.***
 *

 ** **

 Any hints how to fix this?

 ** **

 Best regards,

 Marco

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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH
They are all on the green LAN, connected to the same switches. Client and cisco 
vpn box 1 are on another LAN, only connected through a VPN link.

 
I know, this is not how we recommend to set this up, but it was like this when 
we came there.

 
Thanks,

Marco

 
 
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the cisco vpn box 2, the Endian and other machines are on the same LAN green? 
Your cisco vpn box 2 is connected directly to a network card Endian or a 
switch?

 
2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de 
mailto:mgabr...@inett.de 

Hello,

 
I have a strange problem that may be related to the endian way of policy based 
routing.

 
ICMP packages seem not to be routed properly.

 
Client - cisco vpn box 1 - public network - cisco vpn box 2 - endian - 
server

 
RDP and other tcp/udp based services from client work, ICMP packets are sent to 
the server, the server answers but the packets seem not to be forwarded by the 
endian to the cisco vpn box 2. The cisco vpn box 2 and the endian are both in 
the same green LAN and the endian has configured a static route to static 
gateway cisco vpn box 2. As told, this works for all tested services but ICMP. 

 
If I set a route manually to the vpn box on the shell by using route add, it 
works. If I set a route directly on the client to the cisco box, it works too. 

 
So this seems to be a problem with the iptables way of routing packets.

 
Any hints how to fix this?

 
Best regards,

Marco

 

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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Jonathan Lessa
If everyone is on the same switch and the same LAN the ping does not
necessarily pass through the Endian, the switch itself is responsible for
making this delivery.
But if your Endian were physically between cisco vpn box 2 and the
server, then yes the Endian would be responsible for delivery.


2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de

 They are all on the green LAN, connected to the same switches. Client and
 “cisco vpn box 1” are on another LAN, only connected through a VPN link.**
 **

 ** **

 I know, this is not how we recommend to set this up, but it was like this
 when we came there.

 ** **

 Thanks,

 Marco

 ** **

 ** **

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 ** **

 the cisco vpn box 2, the Endian and other machines are on the same LAN
 green? Your cisco vpn box 2 is connected directly to a network card
 Endian or a switch?

 ** **

 2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de

 Hello,

  

 I have a strange problem that may be related to the endian way of policy
 based routing.

  

 ICMP packages seem not to be routed properly.

  

 Client - cisco vpn box 1 - public network - cisco vpn box 2 - endian
 - server

  

 RDP and other tcp/udp based services from client work, ICMP packets are
 sent to the server, the server answers but the packets seem not to be
 forwarded by the endian to the cisco vpn box 2. The cisco vpn box 2 and the
 endian are both in the same green LAN and the endian has configured a
 static route to static gateway “cisco vpn box 2”. As told, this works for
 all tested services but ICMP. 

  

 If I set a route manually to the vpn box on the shell by using “route
 add”, it works. If I set a route directly on the client to the cisco box,
 it works too. 

  

 So this seems to be a problem with the iptables way of routing packets.***
 *

  

 Any hints how to fix this?

  

 Best regards,

 Marco

  



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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH
This is correct, but if I do “tcpdump -i br0 host client-ip and icmp” on the 
endian console, I can see ICMP packets coming through. But endian seems to drop 
them. I cannot confirm that they were dropped, but if I manually “route add” 
the route to the client, it works immediately. 

Thanks in advance,
Marco



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Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 16:15
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If everyone is on the same switch and the same LAN the ping does not 
necessarily pass through the Endian, the switch itself is responsible for 
making this delivery.
But if your Endian were physically between cisco vpn box 2 and the server, 
then yes the Endian would be responsible for delivery.

2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
They are all on the green LAN, connected to the same switches. Client and 
“cisco vpn box 1” are on another LAN, only connected through a VPN link.
 
I know, this is not how we recommend to set this up, but it was like this when 
we came there.
 
Thanks,
Marco
 
 
Von: Jonathan Lessa [mailto:jonathanle...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 15:40
An: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP
 
the cisco vpn box 2, the Endian and other machines are on the same LAN green? 
Your cisco vpn box 2 is connected directly to a network card Endian or a 
switch?
 
2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
Hello,
 
I have a strange problem that may be related to the endian way of policy based 
routing.
 
ICMP packages seem not to be routed properly.
 
Client - cisco vpn box 1 - public network - cisco vpn box 2 - endian - 
server
 
RDP and other tcp/udp based services from client work, ICMP packets are sent to 
the server, the server answers but the packets seem not to be forwarded by the 
endian to the cisco vpn box 2. The cisco vpn box 2 and the endian are both in 
the same green LAN and the endian has configured a static route to static 
gateway “cisco vpn box 2”. As told, this works for all tested services but 
ICMP. 
 
If I set a route manually to the vpn box on the shell by using “route add”, it 
works. If I set a route directly on the client to the cisco box, it works too. 
 
So this seems to be a problem with the iptables way of routing packets.
 
Any hints how to fix this?
 
Best regards,
Marco
 

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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Jonathan Lessa
what is the route that you add to work?


2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de

 This is correct, but if I do “tcpdump -i br0 host client-ip and icmp” on
 the endian console, I can see ICMP packets coming through. But endian seems
 to drop them. I cannot confirm that they were dropped, but if I manually
 “route add” the route to the client, it works immediately.

 Thanks in advance,
 Marco



 Von: Jonathan Lessa [mailto:jonathanle...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 16:15
 An: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Betreff: Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

 If everyone is on the same switch and the same LAN the ping does not
 necessarily pass through the Endian, the switch itself is responsible for
 making this delivery.
 But if your Endian were physically between cisco vpn box 2 and the
 server, then yes the Endian would be responsible for delivery.

 2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
 They are all on the green LAN, connected to the same switches. Client and
 “cisco vpn box 1” are on another LAN, only connected through a VPN link.

 I know, this is not how we recommend to set this up, but it was like this
 when we came there.

 Thanks,
 Marco


 Von: Jonathan Lessa [mailto:jonathanle...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 15:40
 An: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Betreff: Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

 the cisco vpn box 2, the Endian and other machines are on the same LAN
 green? Your cisco vpn box 2 is connected directly to a network card
 Endian or a switch?

 2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
 Hello,

 I have a strange problem that may be related to the endian way of policy
 based routing.

 ICMP packages seem not to be routed properly.

 Client - cisco vpn box 1 - public network - cisco vpn box 2 - endian
 - server

 RDP and other tcp/udp based services from client work, ICMP packets are
 sent to the server, the server answers but the packets seem not to be
 forwarded by the endian to the cisco vpn box 2. The cisco vpn box 2 and the
 endian are both in the same green LAN and the endian has configured a
 static route to static gateway “cisco vpn box 2”. As told, this works for
 all tested services but ICMP.

 If I set a route manually to the vpn box on the shell by using “route
 add”, it works. If I set a route directly on the client to the cisco box,
 it works too.

 So this seems to be a problem with the iptables way of routing packets.

 Any hints how to fix this?

 Best regards,
 Marco



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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH
Endian has 192.168.1.230
Cisco VPN box 2 has 192.168.1.254

Client has 192.168.10.239

On Endian (or Server): “route add -net 192.168.10.0/24 gw 192.168.1.254” → 
works.

Best regards,
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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Jonathan Lessa
I understood that all involved were on the same LAN green, but in this case
they are not.
Outside the routing would be interesting to create a rule in the firewall
between zones. Releasing the ping between the 192.168.10.0/24 network and
the Green Zone.


2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de

 Endian has 192.168.1.230
 Cisco VPN box 2 has 192.168.1.254

 Client has 192.168.10.239

 On Endian (or Server): “route add -net 192.168.10.0/24 gw 192.168.1.254”
 → works.

 Best regards,
 Marco


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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH
There are two LANs, connected through two cisco boxes. LAN1 contains client and 
cisco box 1, LAN2 contains endian, server and cisco box 2. There is no need to 
play with the zones as everything for LAN1 should be routed through the cisco 
box 2. And that works for all services but ICMP.

Best regards,
Marco


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I understood that all involved were on the same LAN green, but in this case 
they are not.
Outside the routing would be interesting to create a rule in the firewall 
between zones. Releasing the ping between the 192.168.10.0/24 network and the 
Green Zone.

2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
Endian has 192.168.1.230
Cisco VPN box 2 has 192.168.1.254

Client has 192.168.10.239

On Endian (or Server): “route add -net 192.168.10.0/24 gw 192.168.1.254” → 
works.

Best regards,
Marco


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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Jonathan Lessa
But the issue is not the area in itself, but when do you configure a rule
to redirect the Endian already takes care of creating a rule in the
firewall to release this communication. What I asked was to test the
firewall to create a rule allowing ICMP between these networks.


2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de

 There are two LANs, connected through two cisco boxes. LAN1 contains
 client and cisco box 1, LAN2 contains endian, server and cisco box 2. There
 is no need to play with the zones as everything for LAN1 should be routed
 through the cisco box 2. And that works for all services but ICMP.

 Best regards,
 Marco


 Von: Jonathan Lessa [mailto:jonathanle...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 17:23
 An: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Betreff: Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

 I understood that all involved were on the same LAN green, but in this
 case they are not.
 Outside the routing would be interesting to create a rule in the firewall
 between zones. Releasing the ping between the 192.168.10.0/24 network and
 the Green Zone.

 2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
 Endian has 192.168.1.230
 Cisco VPN box 2 has 192.168.1.254

 Client has 192.168.10.239

 On Endian (or Server): “route add -net 192.168.10.0/24 gw 192.168.1.254”
 → works.

 Best regards,
 Marco


 Von: Jonathan Lessa [mailto:jonathanle...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 16:44
 An: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Betreff: Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP
 what is the route that you add to work?




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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH
Understood. I already tried to create a specific rule for ICMP traffic within 
the firewall (exactly at policy based routing). It showed me ICMP 8 and ICMP 30 
to allow, but that didn’t work either. 

The only thing that worked so far was adding a route. 

Marco

Von: Jonathan Lessa [mailto:jonathanle...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 17:33
An: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

But the issue is not the area in itself, but when do you configure a rule to 
redirect the Endian already takes care of creating a rule in the firewall to 
release this communication. What I asked was to test the firewall to create a 
rule allowing ICMP between these networks.

2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
There are two LANs, connected through two cisco boxes. LAN1 contains client and 
cisco box 1, LAN2 contains endian, server and cisco box 2. There is no need to 
play with the zones as everything for LAN1 should be routed through the cisco 
box 2. And that works for all services but ICMP.

Best regards,
Marco


Von: Jonathan Lessa [mailto:jonathanle...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 17:23
An: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

I understood that all involved were on the same LAN green, but in this case 
they are not.
Outside the routing would be interesting to create a rule in the firewall 
between zones. Releasing the ping between the 192.168.10.0/24 network and the 
Green Zone.

2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
Endian has 192.168.1.230
Cisco VPN box 2 has 192.168.1.254

Client has 192.168.10.239

On Endian (or Server): “route add -net 192.168.10.0/24 gw 192.168.1.254” → 
works.

Best regards,
Marco




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Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

2013-08-02 Thread Jonathan Lessa
But you need to add the route to have communication with another network.
What is the problem?

If your network gateway is the Endian is it then that should be the routes
to other networks.


2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de

 Understood. I already tried to create a specific rule for ICMP traffic
 within the firewall (exactly at policy based routing). It showed me ICMP 8
 and ICMP 30 to allow, but that didn’t work either.

 The only thing that worked so far was adding a route.

 Marco

 Von: Jonathan Lessa [mailto:jonathanle...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 17:33
 An: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Betreff: Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

 But the issue is not the area in itself, but when do you configure a rule
 to redirect the Endian already takes care of creating a rule in the
 firewall to release this communication. What I asked was to test the
 firewall to create a rule allowing ICMP between these networks.

 2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
 There are two LANs, connected through two cisco boxes. LAN1 contains
 client and cisco box 1, LAN2 contains endian, server and cisco box 2. There
 is no need to play with the zones as everything for LAN1 should be routed
 through the cisco box 2. And that works for all services but ICMP.

 Best regards,
 Marco


 Von: Jonathan Lessa [mailto:jonathanle...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 17:23
 An: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Betreff: Re: [Efw-user] Routing and ICMP

 I understood that all involved were on the same LAN green, but in this
 case they are not.
 Outside the routing would be interesting to create a rule in the firewall
 between zones. Releasing the ping between the 192.168.10.0/24 network and
 the Green Zone.

 2013/8/2 Marco Gabriel - inett GmbH mgabr...@inett.de
 Endian has 192.168.1.230
 Cisco VPN box 2 has 192.168.1.254

 Client has 192.168.10.239

 On Endian (or Server): “route add -net 192.168.10.0/24 gw 192.168.1.254”
 → works.

 Best regards,
 Marco





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