Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-28 Thread Mel Farrer via Elecraft
floor do not open the gate. Mel, K6KBE From: Wes Stewart To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations I've been at this for 60 years now and the only time I've ever heard signals "pop out of the noise"

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-28 Thread Wes Stewart
I've been at this for 60 years now and the only time I've ever heard signals "pop out of the noise" was when I was working 2-meter meteor scatter.  Where have I gone wrong? Wes  N7WS On 8/27/2018 8:02 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: When you can just barely hear the no-signal band noise, signals will

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-27 Thread Bill Johnson
Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:02 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations Many hams equate no signal band noise to receiver sensitivity. Nothing could be further from the truth. Bob has pointed out some very good guidelines. For those who

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/27/2018 10:01 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: Per one authority on receiver performance, the optimum receiver performance occurs when the no signal band noise is about 10 dB above the receiver noise floor. Not quite -- when the noise from the antenna is 10 dB above the receiver noise, the

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Many hams equate no signal band noise to receiver sensitivity. Nothing could be further from the truth. Bob has pointed out some very good guidelines. For those who do not want to play with the RF Gain to simplify things, the attenuation and preamp settings will still do a great deal to

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-27 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I agree with Peter in that many hams use too much RX RF Gain and too little attenuation.    Per one authority on receiver performance, the optimum receiver performance occurs when the no signal band noise is about 10 dB above the receiver noise floor. Since we can't adjust the receiver noise

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-27 Thread Peter W2IRT
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 1:35 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations I opted for a 2.1 ssb filter hoping to be able to enjoy phone

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft
I opted for a 2.1 ssb filter hoping to be able to enjoy phone contesting just a little bit more but so far I haven't found the magic elixir for phone.I only replied to the post after seeing "information garbling" from Don.  That is exactly what happens to me with whatever filter or

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/26/2018 6:50 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: The 2.8kHz filter has a flatter passband and steeper skirts than the 2.7kHz. Yes. I use 2.8 kHz filters in all three of my main receivers, and 2.7 kHz in my Sub Receivers. The better flatness of the 2.8 kHz filter reduces incidental AM when

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Peter W2IRT
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lee Murrah via Elecraft Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 8:45 AM To: Elecraft Mail List Subject: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations I am looking to upgrade my K3S with filters and am using the DX version

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
In regard to filters, see http://www.elecraft.com/K3/Roofing_Filters.htm for the explanation and justification and application of various filters.   Wayne and Eric have provided excellent real world advice in this regard. 73 Bob, K4TAX

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Lee, The 2.8kHz filter has a flatter passband and steeper skirts than the 2.7kHz. But remember that this is a roofing filter, the DSP provides the actual filtering for the K3/K3S. The purpose of the roofing filter is to keep strong adjacent signals from overloading the Hardware AGC and the

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Wes Stewart
The 2.8 has better symmetry and no frequency offset. Personally, I have no use for a 2.1.  If you are a CW or RTTY man get a 400 Hz. Wes  N7WS  On 8/26/2018 5:45 AM, Lee Murrah via Elecraft wrote: I am looking to upgrade my K3S with filters and am using the DX version of the radio as a

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2018 26 Aug 07:46 -0500, Lee Murrah via Elecraft wrote: > I am looking to upgrade my K3S with filters and am using the DX > version of the radio as a guide. What is the advantage of the 2.8 KHz > filter over the stock 2.7? What does the 2.1 KHz filter do for you? I have the 2.7 and 2.1

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Although I have the standard 2.7 kHz filter in my K3S, the 2.8 is reported to give a little bit better SSB sounding audio.  From experience with another radio, opening up the SSB BW 100 Hz gives a wee bit better sounding audio.  Emphasis on "wee" bit.  As to the 2.1 kHz, I opted for a 1.8 kHz

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Michael Blake via Elecraft
That is a really good question Lee and the answer can be very complicated. It depends is probably the best answer. An everyday experience is what I used in my determination to purchase neither was: When in my daily 3710 LSB group QSO there would regularly be an interfering station on 3713

Re: [Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Bill Frantz
I find the 2.1 KHz filter useful for SSB contesting when the band is crowded. At other times it also seems to reduce band noise when it is engaged. (The other filter that will be engaged in my radio is a 5 pole 2.7 KHz filter.) If you set a low cutoff of 350 Hz then the 2.1 KHz filter will

[Elecraft] Filter Recommendations

2018-08-26 Thread Lee Murrah via Elecraft
I am looking to upgrade my K3S with filters and am using the DX version of the radio as a guide. What is the advantage of the 2.8 KHz filter over the stock 2.7? What does the 2.1 KHz filter do for you? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: