[Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-27 Thread Edward R. Cole
transverters higher in microwaves use 144-MHz IF and they are run only when portable or as a rover, so are not used with the K3. -- Message: 21 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 22:57:55 +0200 From: Oliver Dr?se dro...@necg.de Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Ed, The KX3 is intended to provide support for at least one (and maybe more) external transverters, including a programmable band display and a keying line. Unlike the K3, there won't be separate transverter IN/ OUT jacks; you'll need to use a transverter with a multiplexed RX/TX

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-27 Thread Gary Gregory
I just want an Elecraft KXM-3 ...HF/2/70 Mobile rig.10/100W Grin... Gary On 27 August 2011 15:13, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: To each his own, but Mike Morrow wrote: In the 45 years I've been around ham radio, the probability that any HF ham rig would be used in an

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-27 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I can't argue with the reasoning from either side of the camp here - if I was in the US, but I'm not... I'm in the UK, 30m west of London in the M4 (that’s highway/freeway, think 101) corridor with suburbia all around, houses in the 'country' as close or closer than those in a NY suburb and

[Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-27 Thread Steve Kavanagh
We were thinking along the lines of 200-500 mW for the micro transverter, if it's even possible. The regular transverter option could be as high as 5 W. We'll see. Wayne N6KR Now that sounds interesting. I run a bunch of microwave transverters from a 2m IF at 50-100 mW and have found no

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-27 Thread N6MQL
wrote: e: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question... -- Michael Aretsky N6MQL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft

[Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...and Internal Battery Compartment Design

2011-08-27 Thread Mike Morrow
I wrote: ...that any HF ham rig would be used in an emergency has been vanishingly small... Wayne wrote: A few years ago a ham in Oregon broke his leg hiking. He used a KX1 to call rescuers. I'm not kidding. That was W7AU in 2008. It was an impressive use of the KX1. Another party of

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-27 Thread Bill K9YEQ
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:16 PM To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question... On Aug 26, 2011, at 4:01 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: ...might

[Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Dave KK7SS
Is there any feedback from the Beta Tester(s) regarding battery life under operational conditions? Inquiring minds, etc... -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
Field testing hasn't officially started yet, other than testing of the four units in use by the design team. But I can give you some estimates. Receive-mode current drain will typically be 130-170 mA depending on supply voltage, backlight level, whether the preamp is on, etc. So a 2500

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Dave KK7SS
Wayne, Fabulous VBG Sounds perfect for the operating conditions I'm considering - portable, 5W, internal pack, 2M, ATU and ??? Many thanks... (still drooling!) -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
Dave KK7SS wrote: Fabulous VBG Sounds perfect for the operating conditions I'm considering - portable, 5W, internal pack, 2M, ATU and ??? Hi Dave, As I mentioned awhile back, the internal 2-meter option and the internal ATU are probably going to be mutually-exclusive. You could always

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Oliver Dröse
Hi Wayne, please don't sacrifice performance. The internal 2 m transverter should at least have 5 watts output to be useful for normal 2 m applications, 10 W would be even better but I'm not sure this is doable with the space limits. ;-)) A very low power 2 m transverter (10 mW?) is probably not

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
When I lived in the SF Bay area I carried a 2-meter FM HT that I could use to access several repeaters in the area running 100 mW into a 5/8 wave mag-mount on the car. One of my favorite bits of fun with it was that whenever I was on top of Mount Diablo to service a commercial repeater, I'd take a

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
We were thinking along the lines of 200-500 mW for the micro transverter, if it's even possible. The regular transverter option could be as high as 5 W. We'll see. Wayne N6KR On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote: Hi Wayne, please don't sacrifice performance. The internal 2 m

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Ah - good news since ATU is paramount to me, but 2m is important too 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #??? -- Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe. -- Albert Einstein. On 26 Aug 2011, at 21:34, Wayne Burdick wrote: Dave KK7SS

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Jessie Oberreuter
Hard choices all around! I, too, am looking forward to having a single rig that I can use for HF-2m field ops, and would end up giving up the ATU for 2m. 'Course, I'd rather give up the internal batteries and have both 2m and an HF ATU :). Everyone's style is different. On Fri, 26

[Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-26 Thread Mike Morrow
Jessie Oberreuter wrote: I, too, am looking forward to having a single rig that I can use for HF-2m field ops, and would end up giving up the ATU for 2m. I could easily do without two-meter capability on the KX3. About all I (rarely) use VHF or UHF for is FM mode, and I like to be able to use

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-26 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Well, I have to say, the possibility of putting options in the battery space, making the internal battery an option, appeals to me too. Then a good 2m transverter could go in the battery space and still be room for the ATU, might even be able to put the 100w PA in place of the battery, which

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
On Aug 26, 2011, at 4:01 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: ...might even be able to put the 100w PA in place of the battery Unfortunately, no. The KX3's normal low-pass filters are rated at 15 W, as is the ATU. The battery is very important; it makes the KX3 an all-in-one unit that

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Dave KK7SS
No Guarantees?? No Sweat ! Grin I'm sure I'll be able to live with whatever comes out of the think-tank ;) -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question..

2011-08-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Make that the possible-practical tank. The think-tank can contain many things that are great ideas, but are not possible given the limitations of cost to the end-buyer coupled with the profits due to the developers. We have to live in the real world, and that is not the ideal world in all

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-26 Thread Bob Cunnings
I take my KX1 on backpacking trips, and see internal batteries in anything like a KX1 or KX3 as indispensable! Internal battery power helps to keep rig setup quick and easy. I like using internal AA lithium batteries in the KX1 because they are light weight and will power the rig for a very long

[Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-26 Thread Mike Morrow
None of the arguments below will change anyone's outlook, but... Wayne wrote: The battery is very important; it makes the KX3 an all-in-one unit that you can quickly deploy in an emergency, ... In the 45 years I've been around ham radio, the probability that any HF ham rig would be used in

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Batttery life question...

2011-08-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
To each his own, but Mike Morrow wrote: In the 45 years I've been around ham radio, the probability that any HF ham rig would be used in an emergency has been vanishingly small, with the highest probabilities having been 45 years ago, not today A few years ago a ham in Oregon