Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-29 Thread Jim Cox
@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?] I thought of another feature to help fix the stupid user issue. How about a lock that doesn't allow a band change. Such as a special way to use the lock button that doesn't lock one out from

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-29 Thread Brett Howard
: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?] I thought of another feature to help fix the stupid user issue. How about a lock that doesn't allow a band change. Such as a special way to use the lock button that doesn't lock one out from

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-29 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 6/29/08 8:43:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why anyone would let a stupid user operate their 2K radio at a field day site is beyond me. OTOH: One of the things FD is supposed to be is a training/education exercise. While it's certainly not a

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-29 Thread Brett Howard
When I was a kid and had my tech license I only operated on 2m packet and fm repeater operation. I really liked that I could go in on 2m or 440 and then come out on HF packet and get a little further. But the only time I got to operate on the real bands was during field day. As a kid I loved it

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
And this is why we love Elecraft - I can't see any other manufacture responding positively with a solution, that's alone so quickly. Most other manufactures would just say 'Caveat Emptor' - don't do it then! Boy am I glad I bought my K3 :) 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Patience serves as a

[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-28 Thread Barry McWilliams
Wayne - good idea. But, only if PTT-KEY is set to enable PTT and/or keying. Thanks, Barry (WK2S) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-28 Thread John H Gibson
: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Dave, I wanted to run a possible solution past you. I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could detect this case

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, I don't think that would work. The key line is not the only means of keying the K3 - the 'KY' command for instance can be used, or the TUNE button, or DTR or RTS keying. 73, Don W3FPR John H Gibson wrote: Wayne, Instead of using an intial time delay, why not force the K3 to wait

[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-28 Thread wayne burdick
This is another way of describing what I'm proposing, John. If /KEY is found asserted anytime during the 2-second power-on sequence, the K3 might show ERR KEY and prevent TX until the line as been released. If re-asserted anytime after that, the message would go away by itself, and TX would

[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-28 Thread wayne burdick
Don, The K3 could inhibit all methods of transmit that appear to be active during the first 2 seconds of power-on, even the KY and TX commands from a PC. Don't forget that I control both the horizontal and the vertical :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 28, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wayne burdick Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?] This is another way of describing what I'm proposing, John. If /KEY is found

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-28 Thread Ed K1EP
I think that it is a great idea. The line has to go non-active first before it is allowed to key the radio. At 6/28/2008 01:16 AM, Brett Howard wrote: Sounds like a smart addition to me. Protects people from transmitting into something horrible on accident. Always puts a smile on your face

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-28 Thread Brett Howard
I thought of another feature to help fix the stupid user issue. How about a lock that doesn't allow a band change. Such as a special way to use the lock button that doesn't lock one out from QSYing but doesn't allow them to move off of say 40 meters. We had a death to a band pass filter cause

[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread wayne burdick
Dave, I wanted to run a possible solution past you. I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could detect this case, and display a repeating message (something like: KEYLINE IS ACTIVE) until you either

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wayne, Given the situation, reasons, and consequences, I believe something like what you suggested would be the best solution. If you can extend the time beyond 'the first couple of seconds' (enough time to change the menu or power down), that would be helpful IMHO. 73, Don W3FPR wayne

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread Brett Howard
Sounds like a smart addition to me. Protects people from transmitting into something horrible on accident. Always puts a smile on your face when software protects you from doing something stupid on accident. On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:51 -0700, wayne burdick wrote: Dave, I wanted to run a

[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread wayne burdick
Don, By a few seconds I meant that it would have to detect the condition in that window, on power-up. But if it did detect key-down in this window, it would remain in the TX-inhibit condition for as long as the key-down persisted. Wayne On Jun 27, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread Tony Fegan VE3QF
Wayne/Don, Maybe another solution could be to optionally (menu/config?) power up in TX-inhibit (Test mode). Tx-inhibit could then be reset by hitting the key/paddle, mic PTT or the TEST button. 73 Tony Fegan VE3QF wayne burdick wrote: Don, By a few seconds I meant that it would