Re: window-tree

2005-10-20 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: window-tree was implemented so that the bugs in balance-windows could be fixed. But have they been fixed? I think not. Would someone like to work on this? It could be that we also need a new function to set a window's edges in a more controllable way. Sorry,

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: Maybe add an make install-gzip That's not a good idea. First of all, most people won't think to use it. Second, it departs from our standard. The `install' target should do the compression. I do not know how to do it, but it is important to not gzip

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Cadilhac
Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2005/10/20, Kevin Ryde [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I made myself M-x chmod below, to change the current visited file. I usually just want to make a script executable. I know there's an executable-chmod or something, but I can never remember and prefer typing

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Romain Francoise
Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An alternative would perhaps be to ship a set of GNU utilities for Emacs on those platforms, but that is a rather big and complicated thing at present. The long term plan is to get rid of the gzip dependency for good and use zlib to provide

syntax-ppss-flush-cache

2005-10-20 Thread martin rudalics
Consider the following stretch of elisp code: (defvar foo string .. . . ( doc .. . . ..) Suppose I change some text on the line below doc. `syntax-ppss' using `syntax-begin-function' will record something like (1 X ... (X)) where X is the

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:16:01 +0200 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, there are some .el files that don't have a corresponding .elc file; I think such .el file should not be compressed, since then Emacs

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:37:06 +0200 How can you uncompress the tarball without gunzip ? With DJTARNT (which can only handle .tar.gz files, not compressed .gz files in general).

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:13:19 +0200 Maybe add an make install-gzip target? That'd be fine, I think. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:44:42 +0200 Cc: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org I don't know any way to change the modes of a file, or even of the current file, within emacs. C-h f set-file-modes RET

Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:49:03 -0400 This patch fixes the bug. However, it's pure hackery since I'm not familiar with the code at all. Can someone tell me if it makes sense to do this? I don't have the answer to your question, but the snippet you

Re: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-20 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Hrvoje Niksic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I now understand and I think it's a good change. It basically saves *all* minibuffer histories, which is exactly the effect I wanted to achieve back when I wrote the file. Thanks for improving it. There is one problem, though: any customization of

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:20:06 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org The long term plan is to get rid of the gzip dependency for good and use zlib to provide decompression primitives directly in Emacs. Then let's postpone compression of .el files until

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Kim F. Storm
Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The long term plan is to get rid of the gzip dependency for good and use zlib to provide decompression primitives directly in Emacs. (On systems where zlib isn't available as a shared library, we'd provide the possibility to include a static version

Re: pxref

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:38:27 +1300 pxref seems to put in a full stop in the generated info page, when the reference includes the manual name: (@pxref{Registers,,, gdb, The GNU debugger}) gives: (see Registers(gdb).) which seems wrong since

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Romain Francoise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: If Debian-folks want to compress .el files and it happens to work for Debian, then it's no problem with me. But that is NOT an issue we have to deal with in Emacs for release 22. You're barking up the wrong tree; I wasn't the one proposing to do that

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Cadilhac
Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know any way to change the modes of a file, or even of the current file, within emacs. C-h f set-file-modes RET I meant in an user-friendly way. In Dired, type M

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Kim F. Storm
Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: If Debian-folks want to compress .el files and it happens to work for ^ e.g. Debian, then it's no problem with me. But that is NOT an issue we have to deal with in Emacs for release 22. You're

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Re: 3 dots vanish at end of filled line

2005-10-20 Thread Juri Linkov
In Texinfo mode, it should also treat any use of @enddots{} as the end of a sentence. Can someone try to set that up? The following patch does that: Index: lisp/textmodes/texinfo.el === RCS file:

Re: pxref

2005-10-20 Thread Juri Linkov
pxref seems to put in a full stop in the generated info page, when the reference includes the manual name: (@pxref{Registers,,, gdb, The GNU debugger}) gives: (see Registers(gdb).) which seems wrong since (@pxref{Registers}) gives: (see Registers) Wrong mailing list ;-) It's not a

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-20 Thread Romain Francoise
Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My point is that I'm most likely to change modes of one file, and search it in dired mode is not the most direct way I know. M-: (load dired-x) RET C-x C-j M mode RET -- Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I like the streets when it's a miracle --

Re: mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el removed from CVS

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:23:04 +0100 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The lisp/Makefile.in has been changed to regenerate mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el, but the corresponding lisp/makefile.w32-in remain unchanged. Is that ok?

GCC warning in minibuf.c

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
With today's CVS, GCC 3.4.2 issues the following warning: minibuf.c: In function `Fminibuffer_completion_help': minibuf.c:2578: warning: passing arg 2 of `internal_with_output_to_temp_buffer' from incompatible pointer type This happens because internal_with_output_to_temp_buffer is declared

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:23:33 +0200 Cc: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org I DEFINITELY think this is a non-issue which can EASILY wait until AFTER the release Seconded. There's no reason to risk unneeded breakage due to this

Re: pxref

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], bug-texinfo@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:16:22 +0300 makeinfo _always_ produces either a :: or a . at the end of the @pxref cross-reference, before the closing paren, because those are the rules of the

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:41:21 +0200 If we want dired-do-chmod to work on systems without an external chmod command, we can easily modify dired-do-chmod to use set-file-modes. Yep, please do, but please do it with

Re: ATSUI support on Carbon Emacs

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:28:45 +0900 From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the request of the maintainer, I installed ATSUI support on Carbon Emacs to the trunk. It does not change anything unless -DUSE_ATSUI is specified at compile time. Thank you for your work, but I think this

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Re: GCC warning in minibuf.c

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Andreas Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:07:47 +0200 I think this is a bogus warning, I don't agree. Fdisplay_completion_list will be called with only a single parameter and will receive garbage in the second one. A sure way to make

Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-20 Thread Kim F. Storm
Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This patch fixes the bug. However, it's pure hackery since I'm not familiar with the code at all. Can someone tell me if it makes sense to do this? It seems like you got the test wrong -- this looks more correct to me: if (NILP (tip_frame) !!

Re: Clean-up of forward-paragraph [Re: Beginingless paragraphs: second stab at a patch.]

2005-10-20 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Richard M. Stallman wrote: [ ] (ii) When `use-hard-newlines' is non-nil (i.e. Longlines Mode is enabled), forward-paragraph can spuriously recognise a line in the middle of a paragraph as a separator line when it looks like one. (This only shows itself

Re: GCC warning in minibuf.c

2005-10-20 Thread Andreas Schwab
Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps I misunderstand what the code does, but it looks like internal_with_output_to_temp_buffer invokes the `function' argument with a list of arguments, ??? val = (*function) (args); Looks very much like passing a single argument. Andreas. --

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Cadilhac
Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:41:21 +0200 If we want dired-do-chmod to work on systems without an external chmod command, we can easily modify dired-do-chmod to use set-file-modes.

image-load-path / tool-bar icons / dumped Emacs with images.el

2005-10-20 Thread David Reitter
I have an issue with image-load-path, defined in images.el. Since the tool-bar images have been moved to data-directory/images, my Emacs can't find the icons any more. The reason is that I am precompiling image.el into a dumped binary, and when that happens, image-load-path gets initialized.

Re: pgg symmetric encryption patch

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Manheimer
i just posted a new version of my allout patches which depend on the pgg revisions of sascha and mine, so i thought i'd post a query in this thread on the status of these patches - the new allout encryption features won't work without these pgg refinements in place. i also should mention rms'

Re: pgg symmetric encryption patch

2005-10-20 Thread Simon Josefsson
Hi. Thanks for reminding me. I thought we were waiting for copyright assignment papers? Have the FSF received papers for all authors? The best way to proceed is to wait for them to arrive, and then send me a complete patch against the then-current CVS that I can install. I can take care of

Re: pgg symmetric encryption patch

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Manheimer
On 10/20/05, Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. Thanks for reminding me. I thought we were waiting for copyright assignment papers? Have the FSF received papers for all authors? The i'll send my pgg copyright assignment papers right now. (they came while i was away for a week.)

Re: ispell-aspell-find-dictionary: Opening input file: no such file or directory

2005-10-19 Thread Eugene Vlasov
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 10:44:01PM -0400 Richard M. Stallman wrote: This patch tries to preserve standard elements of ispell-dictionary-alist for dictionaries that are not found by ispell-aspell-find-dictionary. Does it do the job for you? Yes, with this patch I can check spell with russian

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-19 Thread Ryan Yeske
I think you've always been able to make overlay-arrow-position buffer-local. The problem arises when two arrows try to display in the _same_ buffer, then the local value masks the global value. Perhaps this will never happen in Gnus, but in case it does, a good way is to use

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-19 Thread Ryan Yeske
Could you write a patch for etc/NEWS? Index: etc/NEWS === RCS file: /cvsroot/emacs/emacs/etc/NEWS,v retrieving revision 1.1263 diff -c -r1.1263 NEWS *** etc/NEWS19 Oct 2005 03:56:07 - 1.1263 --- etc/NEWS19 Oct

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-19 Thread Romain Francoise
Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you like to change `make install' to compress the .el files? Ok, I'll do that in a few days' time in case someone objects to the change. -- Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I used to think there is no it's a miracle --

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Ryan Yeske [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the basic entry points (and their aliases) at least should get autoload cookies. What is the right way to do this given the way I conditionalized the defalias: (unless (fboundp 'irc) ;;;###autoload

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread Kim F. Storm
RMS: But I don't think this limit should be absolute. I think it should be specified as a multiple of the frame height and width, and it should be given as a floating point number. I'd suggest 2.0 as the default for this ratio. Stefan: All this to say that I think choosing the maximum

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-19 Thread Nick Roberts
Well, the following doesn't work in 21.3 but does in recent cvs versions (I get an arrow in each buffer in the latter): (progn (switch-to-buffer buf1) (delete-other-windows) (make-variable-buffer-local 'overlay-arrow-position) (setq overlay-arrow-position (make-marker))

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flyspell-large-region: Can't check region... error is still present in some side situation

2005-10-19 Thread Agustin Martin
Hi, I have noticed that error flyspell-large-region: Can't check region... is still present in some special situations, where flyspell-large-region is called without ispell-check-version being called first. That error was caused by the change in behavior of the aspell -l option, and fixed by

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:56:39 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org But I don't think this limit should be absolute. I think it should be specified as a multiple of the frame height and width, and it should be given as a floating point number. I'd

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-19 Thread Piet van Oostrum
Jay Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JB) wrote: JB According to the data file for the units program, the printer's point JB (the same as typographer's point?) is precisely 0.013837 inches, while JB the TeX point is 1/72.27 inches = 0.013837000138... inches. Then the JB units program cheerfully

Link exchange request from Agile Software

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Re: Current time as floating point number

2005-10-19 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't float-time what you want? It is, thanks. Sorry about the noise. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-19 Thread Kim F. Storm
Daniel Brockman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe the variable `overlay-arrow-position' should automatically become buffer-local whenever it is set. It appears that Gnus fails to do this manually, instead ending up setting the global value to a marker that refers to the Gnus summary

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: RMS: But I don't think this limit should be absolute. I think it should be specified as a multiple of the frame height and width, and it should be given as a floating point number. I'd suggest 2.0 as the default for this ratio. Stefan: All this to

Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-19 Thread David PONCE
Hi, It works for me with KDE 3.4.3 on Fedora Core 3. I checked that Click Raise Active Window is enabled. My Emacs is built --with-gtk. Could you try building without gtk, and see if you can reproduce the problem? Sorry for the delay. I rebuilt Emacs without GTK, and confirm that the bug is

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-19 Thread Andreas Schwab
Ryan Yeske [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the right way to do this given the way I conditionalized the defalias: (unless (fboundp 'irc) ;;;###autoload (defalias 'irc 'rcirc)) I think that is probably not the right thing to do. Autoload cookies are always associated with the next

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread Chong Yidong
David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it definitely sounds better to scale according to display size rather than frame size (but round up to minimum size e.g. 4096x4096). It sounds to me like the limits should be configurable, with a somewhat conservative default. Applications where

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread Kim F. Storm
David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It sounds to me like the limits should be configurable, with a somewhat conservative default. Applications where larger dimensions might be appropriate (image viewers with provisions for panning, i.e.) can allow them in their own buffers using

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Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/18, Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My Emacs frames are typically 80 columns of 13x6, i.e. about 500 pixel wide, but I often (at least once a week) watch digital photos in those frames and more often than not those picteures are 1600 or 2048 pixel wide. Yeah, me too -- in many cases

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-19 Thread Jay Belanger
Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2005/10/19, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's too long to enter already. It would be an idea to offer all TeX dimensions with t prefixed: ... Seems like this scheme is not feasible, either. I does seem interesting, and would be much more practical

Bug in ange-ftp parsing of ls output

2005-10-19 Thread Kim F. Storm
In CVS emacs: I'm using redhat 9.0, whose ftp server identifies itself as FTP server (Version 5.60) ready. I've digged out the following line from the response to an ls -al command: -rw---1 kfs 0 May 27 2003 .autorun.lck Now, if I position the cursor at the beginning of

Re: Desktop saves TAGS-LISP

2005-10-19 Thread Juri Linkov
It would be more reliable to identify tags tables through a method other than their file names. Could you implement that? The clean way would be to create a major mode for tags tables, and make `initialize-new-tags-table' put the buffer in that mode. Then desktop could check for that mode.

Re: Desktop saves isearch-mode

2005-10-19 Thread Juri Linkov
Where in the existing code of Isearch does it switch buffers without frobbing the Isearch mode in the two buffers? That place needs to be changed to turn of Isearch mode in the old buffer. This code is in my .emacs. I intended to take measures for the case when someone else does the same in

Re: Handling invalid HTML

2005-10-19 Thread Juri Linkov
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.2.2 By default, SGML requires that all attribute values be delimited using either double quotation marks (ASCII decimal 34) or single quotation marks (ASCII decimal 39). ... In certain cases, authors may specify the value of an

Re: Searching in the minibuffer

2005-10-19 Thread Juri Linkov
The delay is 2 sec, and it is caused by sit-for in minibuffer-message. sit-for is supposed exit whenever you type another character. So in what sense does it cause a delay? In normal isearch operation (i.e. not in the minibuffer), typing C-s immediately moves point to the next occurrence

Re: Defaults for set-variable

2005-10-19 Thread Juri Linkov
The change is ok, but please don't bother mentioning it in NEWS. It is below the threshold for mentioning there. NEWS is already so big as to be inconvenient for the users, so lowering that threshold would be unfortunate. Then what about documenting it in the Emacs manual? Customization

Clean-up of forward-paragraph [Re: Beginingless paragraphs: second stab at a patch.]

2005-10-19 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Richard, Hi Emacs! On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Richard M. Stallman wrote: Do M-h on each of the lines asdf. The blank line is included in both paragraphs. This happens because the blank line isn't a separator here. It is an ordinary line of the upper paragraph and the heuristic (sorry

Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-19 Thread Jan D.
David PONCE wrote: Hi, It works for me with KDE 3.4.3 on Fedora Core 3. I checked that Click Raise Active Window is enabled. My Emacs is built --with-gtk. Could you try building without gtk, and see if you can reproduce the problem? Sorry for the delay. I rebuilt Emacs without GTK, and

Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-19 Thread Jan D.
Hi, It works for me with KDE 3.4.3 on Fedora Core 3. I checked that Click Raise Active Window is enabled. My Emacs is built --with-gtk. Could you try building without gtk, and see if you can reproduce the problem? Sorry for the delay. I rebuilt Emacs without GTK, and confirm that the

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:00:35 +0200 The Emacs CVS packages in Debian use compressed .el files since September 8th and apart from the aforementioned autoload bugs, no problem has arisen. IMHO, Sep 8 till today is a ridiculously short period, to

Re: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
For the case of start-itimer vs run-with-idle-timer, I can see you point, so I've reverted the change. For the case of (if (coding-system-p 'utf-8) 'utf-8 'iso-2022-8), I think the new code is preferable, since the choice is really not dependent on differences betwen Emacs and XEmacs but

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:16:25 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you like to change `make install' to compress the .el files? Ok, I'll do that in a few days' time in case someone objects to the

File modes facilities.

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Cadilhac
I don't know any way to change the modes of a file, or even of the current file, within emacs. As I chmod quite often, and especially the file I work with, I've made up a small package that implements facilities for that. The main functions are : - file-modes-to-number: Convert

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:16:25 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you like to change `make install' to compress the .el files? Ok, I'll do that in a few

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-19 Thread Romain Francoise
Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, there are some .el files that don't have a corresponding .elc file; I think such .el file should not be compressed, since then Emacs will not work without gzip being available. That's pretty obvious... Second, I think this compression should

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-19 Thread Richard M. Stallman
What is the right way to do this given the way I conditionalized the defalias: (unless (fboundp 'irc) ;;;###autoload (defalias 'irc 'rcirc)) I think it should be nnconditional. This is THE definition of `irc'. ___ Emacs-devel

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-19 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I recently noticed when adding an overlay arrow to rcirc that making it `overlay-arrow-position' buffer local *does* work (you can get an arrow in multiple buffers), even though (elisp)Overlay Arrow says: I will fix the manual. ___

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-19 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Since the restriction seems to have been lifted, I think we should remove the paragraph that Ryan quoted from the manual and make the variable automatically become buffer-local. It isn't worth bothering with, given overlay-arrow-variable-list.

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-19 Thread Richard M. Stallman
+ Rcirc has simple defaults and clear and consistent behaviour. Message + arrival timestamps, activity notification on the modeline, message + filling, nick completion, and keepalive pings are all enabled by + default, but can easily be adjusted or turned off. Each discussion

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-19 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Richard mentioned that maybe ERC would be installed as well. Then we should definitely decide which client, if any, should be available as irc. For simplicity, M-x irc should always be rcirc. People who want ERC will use a different command to get it.

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread Richard M. Stallman
The max-image-size code is checked into CVS. I've set a conservative value of 6.0 times the frame width and height. I am concerned that that is too large. On large displays, an Emacs frame could be 1000 pixels in each dimension. 6000 pixels on each side is 36 million pixels. Isn't

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I think it makes sense for some purposes to allow max image size to be specified in absolute pixels. Here is a patch to do that: That is ok. But instead of this text ! If its value is an integer, it specifies the absolute maximum width ! and height, in pixels, for images. If

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-19 Thread Jay Belanger
David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... The units in question are pt = 100:7227 in (point) in = 254:100 cm (inch) pc = 12pt (pica) cm mm bp = 1:72 in (big point, same as PostScript's idea of point) dd = 1238:1157pt (Didot point) cc = 12dd (cicero) sp =

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
I don't know any way to change the modes of a file, or even of the current file, within emacs. C-h f set-file-modes RET Stefan ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-19 Thread Ryan Yeske
In principle, there is only one overlay-arrow-position variable, and since its value is a marker, its value includes the buffer in which it occurs. This is how e.g. gdb can easily move the overlay arrow between buffers -- just modify the global variable. gdb could use a *gud*

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-19 Thread Piet van Oostrum
Piet van Oostrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PvO) wrote: PvO In mm: PvO Postscript: 0.03528 PvO TeX: 0.0351459803515 Sorry, those were cm, not mm. -- Piet van Oostrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP 8DAE142BE17999C4] Private email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-19 Thread Nick Roberts
In principle, there is only one overlay-arrow-position variable, and since its value is a marker, its value includes the buffer in which it occurs. This is how e.g. gdb can easily move the overlay arrow between buffers -- just modify the global variable. gdb

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Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Cadilhac
Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know any way to change the modes of a file, or even of the current file, within emacs. C-h f set-file-modes RET I meant in an user-friendly way, that's to say, without M-:, and without calculating the mode. -- Michael Cadilhac,

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-19 Thread Kim F. Storm
Ryan Yeske [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In principle, there is only one overlay-arrow-position variable, and since its value is a marker, its value includes the buffer in which it occurs. This is how e.g. gdb can easily move the overlay arrow between buffers -- just modify the

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-19 Thread Kim F. Storm
Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: file; I think such .el file should not be compressed, since then Emacs will not work without gzip being available. make-dist and `make install' are completely independent. (Besides, compressing the .el files inside the tarball would make the

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-19 Thread Ryan Yeske
That is good, but it needs to say how to invoke the feature. Index: etc/NEWS === RCS file: /cvsroot/emacs/emacs/etc/NEWS,v retrieving revision 1.1263 diff -c -r1.1263 NEWS *** etc/NEWS19 Oct 2005 03:56:07 - 1.1263

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread Kim F. Storm
Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it would be clearer to write this: ! If the value is an integer, it directly specifies the maximum ! image height and width, measured in pixels. If it is a floating ! point number, it specifies the maximum image height and width

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Cadilhac
Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know any way to change the modes of a file, or even of the current file, within emacs. C-h f set-file-modes RET I meant in an user-friendly way, that's to say, without M-:, and without calculating the mode. In

Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-19 Thread Chong Yidong
This patch fixes the bug. However, it's pure hackery since I'm not familiar with the code at all. Can someone tell me if it makes sense to do this? *** emacs/src/xterm.c.~1.884.~ 2005-10-17 08:54:26.0 -0400 --- emacs/src/xterm.c 2005-10-19 18:45:30.0 -0400 ***

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-19 Thread Kim F. Storm
Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know any way to change the modes of a file, or even of the current file, within emacs. C-h f set-file-modes RET I meant in an user-friendly way, that's to say, without M-:,

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Cadilhac
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know any way to change the modes of a file, or even of the current file, within emacs. C-h f set-file-modes RET I meant in an

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-19 Thread Edward O'Connor
Kim F. Storm wrote: Isn't there something in eshell that can do this? It supports chmod. Eshell uses the system's ch{mod,own}. Ted -- Edward O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-19 Thread Kevin Ryde
Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - chmod: Change the mode of any file. I made myself M-x chmod below, to change the current visited file. I usually just want to make a script executable. I know there's an executable-chmod or something, but I can never remember and prefer typing

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-19 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/20, Ryan Yeske [EMAIL PROTECTED]: gdb could use a *gud* buffer local variable. That way multiple instances of gud wouldn't steal the arrow from eachother. BTW, in case nobody's noticed the current gud/gdba routinely gets completely confused by multiple debugging sessions already...

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-19 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/20, Kevin Ryde [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I made myself M-x chmod below, to change the current visited file. I usually just want to make a script executable. I know there's an executable-chmod or something, but I can never remember and prefer typing 755 or 700. The save-buffer is in case

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