Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread gene heskett
On 11/24/22 12:07, Jérémie Tarot wrote: Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 17:16, andy pugh a écrit : On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 15:21, Feral Engineer wrote: The question always stands, does LinuxCNC want to gain mainstream popularity or does it just want to remain a tinker toy to a select few? I am

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Steffen Möller
Hello, One principle of those Video chats that shall prevent any impression of a power-grab is that every time someone else is hosting it who then acts as a moderator. The overall idea I think is that someone working on something (or about to work on something) gets some extra stimulus or the

Re: [Emc-developers] Built LinuxCNC 2.9 bookworm .iso - where shall I put it? Re: Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-24 Thread Steffen Möller
Rod, Thank you tons for that pointer. I'll investigate that phenotype tomorrow. I just invited you (+Andy+Seb) to a folder on Google Drive and, @Andy, I'll ping you once I know if I can reproduce that OpenGL issue on that version - built two days ago. Best, Steffen > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24.

Re: [Emc-developers] Built LinuxCNC 2.9 bookworm .iso - where shall I put it? Aw: Re: Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-24 Thread Rod Webster
I would like to flag while you are talking about ISOs that Bookworm is no longer running linuxcnc on Debian's default desktop environment after an apt-get upgrade last night (which brought in the latest linuxcnc_uspace package from November 5. This desktop has always worked since I started playing

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-24 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/24/22 08:29, Jérémie Tarot wrote: Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 15:08, Alec Ari via Emc-developers < emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> a écrit : Ah, let me rephrase. There has been talk of automatic testing of RTAI not being feasible unless done manually but this is not true according to

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Chris Morley
We were hardly zero tier. My complaint is that if you didn't go to the video meeting that there seemed to be no way to find out what happened, nor a way to see the discussion after the fact. That is what I meant by two tier. IMHO the first order of business of the video meeting would be to

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 16:37, Jérémie Tarot wrote: > > I don't know, but I wish it would be in another form in another more > obvious place, like GH project's wiki Some minutes exist on the LinuxCNC Wiki, for example: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Meeting201306

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 17:31, Chris Morley a écrit : > Thanks Andy. > > Is this link recorded somewhere officially for reference? > I don't know, but I wish it would be in another form in another more obvious place, like GH project's wiki ___

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 16:21, Feral Engineer wrote: > > On a Fanuc and Mitsubishi, it just searches for line numbers As far as I know the LinuxCNC interpreter completely ignores line numbers. So, there would need to be a way to insert a label, and it would need to be an O-word to stop the

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Chris Morley
Thanks Andy. Is this link recorded somewhere officially for reference? Chris From: andy pugh Sent: November 24, 2022 2:01 PM To: EMC developers Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 05:19, Chris Morley wrote: > > How

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 17:16, andy pugh a écrit : > On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 15:21, Feral Engineer > wrote: > > > The question always stands, does LinuxCNC want to gain mainstream > > popularity or does it just want to remain a tinker toy to a select few? > > I am happy with the latter, the

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Feral Engineer
On a Fanuc and Mitsubishi, it just searches for line numbers If[something]goto10 ... ... ... . N10 On a siemens, it can be a number or a label, which is basically a text string to identify a section Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at

Re: [Emc-developers] Built LinuxCNC 2.9 bookworm .iso - where shall I put it? Aw: Re: Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 16:08, Steffen Möller wrote: > I could well imagine that there are some other folks interested to play with > this. Can I put this somewhere underneath linuxcnc.org? It could go in www.linuxcnc.org/iso Though it would have to be put there by someone with write access (I

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 16:21, Feral Engineer a écrit : > > The question always stands, does LinuxCNC want to gain mainstream > popularity or does it just want to remain a tinker toy to a select few? Is > this just a developer's pet project or is this a machine tool control, > meant to be used by

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 15:21, Feral Engineer wrote: > The question always stands, does LinuxCNC want to gain mainstream > popularity or does it just want to remain a tinker toy to a select few? I am happy with the latter, the support burden of the existing user base is already too much... :-)

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 15:21, Feral Engineer wrote: > plus 5 > different goto, as I mentioned. LinuxCNC supports pluggable interpreters. It would actually be possible to make LinuxCNC 100% compatible with any other G-code dialect. But it would be a lot of work. But, back to goto: How is the

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Feral Engineer
It's useful for early termination While [#100LE5]Do1 If[#101gt1000.]goto100 (Code stuff) #101=(some calculation) #100=#100+1 End1 N100 Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel

[Emc-developers] Built LinuxCNC 2.9 bookworm .iso - where shall I put it? Aw: Re: Plans for the USB sticks anyone?

2022-11-24 Thread Steffen Möller
Dear all, > Gesendet: Montag, 14. November 2022 um 15:49 Uhr > Von: "Steffen Möller" > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 14. November 2022 um 10:28 Uhr > > Von: "andy pugh" > > > > On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 08:52, Steffen Möller wrote: > > > > > b) the Live USB stick with LinuxCNC (and other useful or

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Steffen Möller
Heya, I was also raised with "goto = evil" and it took me some decades to overcome this mantra/early brainwash. Hereto, Linus' "while+goto looks more beautiful in assembly" was important for me (https://koblents.com/Ches/Links/Month-Mar-2013/20-Using-Goto-in-Linux-Kernel-Code/). I did not

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 06:19, Chris Morley a écrit : > How about a summary write up? > Andy has just pointed to them so won't double. > We are making a two tier project if we continue like this. > At least that's some tiers ! Seeing our inability to discuss and decide lately, at least to

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-24 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 15:08, Alec Ari via Emc-developers < emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> a écrit : > Ah, let me rephrase. There has been talk of automatic testing of RTAI not > being feasible unless done manually but this is not true according to Seb. > Testing it _requires_ a machine,

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Feral Engineer
It's a familiarity thing with people engrained in the fanuc macro b philosophy. When all you have is a hammer, everything is a nail. Fanuc only had basic logic functionality for decades; if, goto and while. They added THEN with the 30iA, i believe, and most recently, on the fanuc 30i B that only

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 14:29, Feral Engineer wrote: > To comment on the section involving Siemens Sinumerik, at least one of the > 5 different goto options would be nice to have I think that will be a fight, there are too many programmers on the team who have been taught that GOTO is evil.

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread Feral Engineer
To comment on the section involving Siemens Sinumerik, at least one of the 5 different goto options would be nice to have in LinuxCNC logic  (yes, 5. Goto, gotob, gotof, gotos, gotoc). I have a full copy of Sinutrain that I can use to demonstrate any and all of the Sinumerik logic features,

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9 Release Manager Required.

2022-11-24 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
Ah, let me rephrase. There has been talk of automatic testing of RTAI not being feasible unless done manually but this is not true according to Seb. i.e earlier in the thread and: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2052#issuecomment-1315787542 Speaking of Xenomai, I think it'd be

Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

2022-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 05:19, Chris Morley wrote: > > How about a summary write up? There are some notes here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aWMxBY8IbCYXFLFvjgqUXZ09inZp5u0r-pZcjeb2bWk/edit?usp=sharing -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for

Re: [Emc-developers] time delay hal component for lube pump

2022-11-24 Thread Hans Unzner
Good idea to make the lubrication based on the travelled distance. Here you find a solution in Python you could adapt. It saves the accumulated distance in a file and shows some statistics: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/40709-gmocappy-clock?start=50#203809 Am Do., 24. Nov. 2022 um 10:19

Re: [Emc-developers] time delay hal component for lube pump

2022-11-24 Thread Steffen Möller
How close is http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/oneshot.9.html to what you need? Should we possibly extend it for whatever is missing? And/or should the description of oneshot improve? > Von: "Feral Engineer" > Classicladder is awesome for this  That is what I also thought.

Re: [Emc-developers] time delay hal component for lube pump

2022-11-24 Thread Stefan Freisei Muehlbacher
Some time ago, I have written a small component which pulses at machine-start if last lubrication was a configurable time away. Next pulse is done if the way the machine has made in sum of moving of the three axis hits a configurable limit (or even if the last lubrication is too long ago