[PSES] Surges on Ethernet ports under 62368-1

2021-07-09 Thread Peter Tarver
am looking for confirmation that the above is accurate. Regards, Peter Tarver ptar...@ieee.org - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to

[PSES] DENEN Law/PSE Marking for ac/dc power supplies

2021-07-09 Thread Peter Tarver
for sale to the public. If taken very conservatively (as Japan tends to be), this would apply to all ac/dc power supplies. Does anyone know if this marking requirement applies to power supplies that are part of a kit or sold as spares? Regards, Peter Tarver ptar..

[PSES] 61368-1, Table 14 (2nd ed) or Table 13 (3rd ed)

2021-06-15 Thread Peter Tarver
to include simple IEEE 802.3 circuits, which were excluded from such testing under 60950-1 (where ITIC had dictated to test houses, "thou shalt not place transients on mine network circuits"). As a relative newcomer to 62368-1, I am looking for confirmation that the above is accurate. Regar

Re: [PSES] Applicability of the Machine Directive

2020-09-24 Thread Peter Tarver
Hi, Doug. The control systems are internal to the product, but it relies on power provided by the host equipment. Peter Tarver ptar...@ieee.org From: Doug Nix Subject:Re: [PSES] Applicability of the Machine Directive Date sent: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 17:05:32 -0400 Copies

[PSES] Applicability of the Machine Directive

2020-09-24 Thread Peter Tarver
Hello. For the following, I have (nearly) concluded that the Machinery Directive applies, but I have some lingering uncertainty. I'm looking for reasonable arguments to say that it does or doesn't apply before I dive headlong into the tasks related to supporting a declaration against the

Re: [PSES] Do We Need Flame Retardants in Electronics?

2019-09-30 Thread Peter Tarver
tardant and possibly a high percentage of inorganic fill material (e.g., glass fibers, etc.). Peter Tarver From: Ted Eckert <07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 1:56 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Do We Need Flame Retardants in Elect

Re: [PSES] Automated listserv error message

2019-04-24 Thread Peter Tarver
I note that my subscription at my home account was not unsubscribed (POP3). Peter Tarver Date sent: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:10:55 + Send reply to: Peter Tarver From: Peter Tarver Subject:Re: [PSES] Automated listserv error message Originally to: Steve Brody To: EMC

Re: [PSES] Automated listserv error message

2019-04-24 Thread Peter Tarver
Ditto, but using Outlook on an Outlook 365 server. Mike was very responsive and restored my subscription. Peter Tarver From: Steve Brody Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:38 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Automated listserv error message Yes - same message and issue. I

[PSES] phishing e-mail from an old account of yours?

2019-03-29 Thread Peter Tarver
All - I just received an unsolicited e-mail from the address of jrallen-at-productsafetyinc.com. Beware the probable phishing and malware link, if you receive the same. Regards, Peter L. Tarver - This message is from the IEEE

Re: [PSES] File Attachments and the emc-pstc email list

2018-12-17 Thread Peter Tarver
As a subscriber to this list from April, 1995, this is a welcome addition. I echo John W’s concern for subscribers to not abuse this. Peter Tarver From: Jim Bacher Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 08:55 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] File Attachments and the emc-pstc email list

Re: [PSES] safety standards--outdoor electric machine

2018-10-18 Thread Peter Tarver
it’s a short leap to including the in the certification.) The product category for Factory Automation Equipment doesn’t limit the applications to indoor use. Subject 2011 is used in conjunction with NFPA 79. Regards, Peter Tarver From: Chester Summers Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:21

Re: [PSES] EMC tests called up in Safety standards

2018-03-21 Thread Peter Tarver
(combo and ring). Peter Tarver From: Scott Aldous Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 08:33 Hi James, The UL safety standard for PV inverters, UL 1741, makes normative reference to IEEE 1547 and IEEE 1547.1 in Section 46. IEEE 1547.1, in clause 5.5 on interconnection integrity, makes normative

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-08 Thread Peter Tarver
negotiate, make sure you build in some head room for load changes so you don’t have to repeat testing when someone gets a clever idea for how to repurpose your design. Regards, Peter Tarver From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 13:09 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] short range device alternate suppliers and labeling

2017-11-14 Thread Peter Tarver
(or the same) approach accepted by IC? Regards, Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Ward [mailto:dennis.w...@pctest.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 13:07 > To: Peter Tarver <ptar...@enphaseenergy.com>; EMC- > p...@listserv.ieee.org > Subject: RE: shor

[PSES] short range device alternate suppliers and labeling

2017-10-31 Thread Peter Tarver
automated production line. Regards, Peter Tarver - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-

[PSES] 2011/65/EU and 2015/863/EU (RoHS Dir)

2017-09-28 Thread Peter Tarver
2015/863/EU will be incorporated into 2011/65/EU? Anyone have any stories to share? Peter Tarver - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send

Re: [PSES] Old editions of IEC 65

2017-08-22 Thread Peter Tarver
d edition (photocopied) > > I'll hang onto these for a couple weeks, but they'll be in > the recycling bin or donated to a library after that. > > > Regards, > > Peter Tarver > - This message is from the

[PSES] Old editions of IEC 65

2017-08-21 Thread Peter Tarver
(photocopied) fifth edition, 1976 (original) an erratum to the third edition (photocopied) I'll hang onto these for a couple weeks, but they'll be in the recycling bin or donated to a library after that. Regards, Peter Tarver

Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom supply voltage

2017-08-17 Thread Peter Tarver
sides of the border of Germany and Austria, rather than Germany as a whole. Peter Tarver From: Kannan Dhamodaran [mailto:kan...@india.tejasnetworks.com] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 21:36 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom supply voltage Thank you Joe Randolph and Bostjan

Re: [PSES] Inrush Current

2017-08-10 Thread Peter Tarver
. If an rms value is also needed, you can capture the inrush on a scope and gate the measurement over the relevant number of line cycles. Regards, Peter Tarver From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 05:32 Well, no-one has challenged Annex B since

Re: [PSES] Min size of double insulation symbol relaxed

2017-05-31 Thread Peter Tarver
for the answer. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 08:55 > > Is the minimum size of 5 mm relaxed to the legible reading > in LVD and RED? Where and when does it introduce? The information contained in this message

Re: [PSES] Surface Creepage & Air Clearance Calculator - IEC 60601-1 3.1ed

2017-05-19 Thread Peter Tarver
Is this not in IEC 60601-1 3.1ed? Peter Tarver From: Vincent Lee [mailto:08e6c8d35910-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 07:03 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Surface Creepage & Air Clearance Calculator - IEC 60601-1 3.1ed Hi all, Good day, (1)

Re: [PSES] low voltage insulation coordination

2017-05-17 Thread Peter Tarver
coatings, but not many have certifications for that application. Peter Tarver From: Richard Nute Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:43 Solder mask is, necessarily, a reasonable solid insulator. The trace-to-trace insulation construction is trace - solder mask - air - solder mask - trace The solder

Re: [PSES] Scientific principles behind Surface Creepage & Air Clearance

2017-05-10 Thread Peter Tarver
on a board has some height, so it’s possible that, under the right circumstances, Paschen’s could have an effect on Creepages as well as Clearances. Peter Tarver From: Vincent Lee Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 21:00 Hi all, Good day, 1) May I know what is the scientific relationship between

Re: [PSES] IEEE1547 - Unintentional Islanding

2017-05-03 Thread Peter Tarver
Hi, Ralph (say hello to Sarah U also). UL 1741, Supplement A has this as a requirement in Tables SA8.1 and SA8.2. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Ralph McDiarmid > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 10:59 > > Has anyone been asked to perform the Unintentional &g

Re: [PSES] Kikusui TOS3200 Leakage Current Meter

2017-04-26 Thread Peter Tarver
This afternoon's update: the resolution of the inductive current probes I have are limited to 10 Ma. All currents look like noise. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Peter Tarver > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 09:29 > > Thank you, Pete. > > I have receive

Re: [PSES] Kikusui TOS3200 Leakage Current Meter

2017-04-26 Thread Peter Tarver
. For shock hazard (Let Go and Reaction), the scale is OK. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Pete Perkins > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 23:17 > > Peter, > > Altho I have no experience with the Kikusui meter, I > believe that > you are on the right trac

Re: [PSES] Kikusui TOS3200 Leakage Current Meter

2017-04-25 Thread Peter Tarver
is always "faulted." I can't use the faceplate outlet for PCC (Protective Conductor Current) measurements, but I can for touch current measurements. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Richard > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:42 > > Hello Peter: > >

Re: [PSES] Kikusui TOS3200 Leakage Current Meter

2017-04-25 Thread Peter Tarver
are always there. I plan to try an isolation transformer, a la 60950-1 to see if there's a different response. I have written to Kikusui and asked them a similar question. I'll report back Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: John Woodgate > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 23:30

[PSES] Kikusui TOS3200 Leakage Current Meter

2017-04-24 Thread Peter Tarver
is in good condition and went through a calibration verification in AUG2016. The currents are within "Measurement range setting Range 1," but the meter is set in auto range mode. I plan some additional experiments using defined ranges, rather than auto in the next day or so. Pe

[PSES] Switchgear in Europe

2017-03-31 Thread Peter Tarver
series? I am aware of 61439-0, but haven't yet purchased that document to discover what guidance it can give. Peter Tarver The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. It is intended to be read only by the individual or entity to whom it is addressed

Re: [PSES] MD vs LVD for Laboratory Equipment

2017-03-31 Thread Peter Tarver
of the MD, where the text Doug mentions is located, goes on to say that they’re, “intended for lifting loads and whose only power source is directly applied human effort.” This encompasses: • automotive lifts and jacks • come-alongs • block and tackle sets (if sold as a unit) Peter Tarver From

Re: [PSES] crimp hardware for multiple conductors?

2017-02-28 Thread Peter Tarver
you get copies of their certification test reports to verify any claims. Regards, Peter Tarver The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. It is intended to be read only by the individual or entity to whom it is addressed or by their designee. If the reader

Re: [PSES] UL Go?

2016-12-16 Thread Peter Tarver
It should be kept in mind that all of these so-called services are sales tools. My experience with all of the agencies discussed have been less than stellar on the delivery side, once a PO is placed. Peter Tarver The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential

Re: [PSES] UL Go?

2016-12-13 Thread Peter Tarver
of competencies relative to several countries' requirements for grid compliance of distributed generators, we received an exorbitant quote for UL to research their own capabilities. I have been less than impressed so far with such claims of aid, so I'm reluctant to entertain a subscription service. Peter

Re: [PSES] ETSI EN 302 195 V2.1.1

2016-11-03 Thread Peter Tarver
measures from 13 June 2016. Article 50 Repeal Directive 1999/5/EC is repealed with effect from 13 June 2016. RED is effective now. Unless I missed something deferring it’s adoption. Peter Tarver From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 09:00

Re: [PSES] PV Connectors: UL 6(9)703?

2016-10-04 Thread Peter Tarver
9703," is not a consideration. These outlines are for different product types. Peter Tarver From: Brian Gregory [mailto:brian_greg...@netzero.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 14:33 I'm trying to find out if UL 6703 (connectors for PV systems) is being upgraded to UL 9703 or the other

Re: [PSES] Fire ants

2016-09-19 Thread Peter Tarver
Reminds me of a movie, Them! From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 23:09 Plutonium is probably not a good answer; The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. It is intended to be read only by the individual or entity to

Re: [PSES] Risk Assessment of Air Filter

2016-09-19 Thread Peter Tarver
Brian - UL will generally accept a Class 1 air filter. These are evaluated against UL 900. Otherwise, it depends on the standard for the end product what requirement apply. I recall 60950-1 accepting HF-1. Peter Tarver From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday

Re: [PSES] Fuses can affect performance other than safety!

2016-08-26 Thread Peter Tarver
them guess if the next sound they heard sound was recorded or live. Folklore to people like me, but gospel to some audiophiles. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Ken Javor > [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 17:32 >

Re: [PSES] Fuses can affect performance other than safety!

2016-08-25 Thread Peter Tarver
. Pretty clever, but outlandishly expensive. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Ken Javor > [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 19:55 > > Next, the terms are not entirely gibberish. They may be > unfamiliar to those not in the hi-fi

Re: [PSES] Ball pressure test of thermoplastic parts

2016-08-25 Thread Peter Tarver
the testing was simplified to a single temperature with the pass/fail criterion simply being the 2.0 mm diameter dimple, rather than finding the temperature at which the 2.0 mm dimple forms. Maybe Pete Perkins or Rich Knute recall further back than I do. Peter Tarver From: Carpentier

Re: [PSES] Ambient temperature

2016-03-02 Thread Peter Tarver
s as well and quickens thermal equilibrium. Open face of the cube toward the benchtop. Especially nice in drafty or heavily air conditioned areas. Peter Tarver - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc d

Re: [PSES] Ambient temperature

2016-03-02 Thread Peter Tarver
measurement. They will rarely give the temperature at the location the EUT is placed. If the EUT is large the environmental chamber needs to be much larger than the EUT, as indicated by others. Peter Tarver - This message is from the IEEE

Re: [PSES] IEC 61010-1 and VDRs in OVC III environments

2016-03-02 Thread Peter Tarver
Fine and valuable responses. Thank you. Can anyone respond to my question? > Has anyone else encountered this sort of requirement? The CBTL either > could not or would not provide a written requirement, so this smells off. Peter Tarver Date sent: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14

[PSES] IEC 61010-1 and VDRs in OVC III environments

2016-02-26 Thread Peter Tarver
Howdy, howdy, howdy. Product incorporates Type 5 component VDRs and is installed in an OVC III environment via field wiring connections. Evaluation for a CB Scheme Certificate and Test Report. In recent dealings with a CBTL, I was told that the VDRs in a product needed to be Type 2. In

[PSES] 802.11 built into a product for Australia

2015-11-10 Thread Peter Tarver
We are marking a product with the RCM and have done relevant emissions testing for the complete product. The intent from the start has been to leverage the testing and certifications the supplier obtained to reduce the amount of testing needed for the end product (a "modular approach" in a global

Re: [PSES] Cd exemption for art material

2015-11-09 Thread Peter Tarver
One hopes, then, that artists will not lick their brushes or hold them in their mouths, the same way one hopes science academy janitors will not do the same with their mops and brooms. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Brian O'Connell > > The chemical princi

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-26 Thread Peter Tarver
Ralph – I’m less familiar with the CEC, but the NEC does not preclude 208/120 V WYE to a single-family home (residence). It all depends on how much one is willing to pay the utility for the service and proper provisioning and system design at the use location. Peter Tarver *From

[PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Peter Tarver
. A specific area cited was "around Boston." Has anyone heard of or directly experienced this voltage system? Is it split-phase or was I misinformed and it's from a WYE connected transformer? Peter Tarver ptar..

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Peter Tarver
All the best, Doug doug...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 ‎ On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Peter Tarver <ptar...@ieee.org> wrote: Good morning. There are oftensmall, legacy grids that you come across or hear about. I was recently told that some areas of the Northea

Re: [PSES] 208 split-phase?

2015-10-21 Thread Peter Tarver
Brian of the nonburrito ilk - This is usually called 208 V single-phase. I'm still trying to clarify the specifics of the request. Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Kunde, Brian > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:34 > > snip < > > I have heard t

Re: [PSES] Different surge test equipment, different results

2015-08-21 Thread Peter Tarver
David - Thank you. In one case, the output was after the CDN. In the other, the CDN was not in the circuit. I will ask for calibration screen captures with and without the CDN on both cases. This could prove informative. Regards, Peter Tarver -Original Message- From: Schaefer

[PSES] Different surge test equipment, different results

2015-08-21 Thread Peter Tarver
Good morning. I'm wondering if others have experienced cases where different manufacturers' surge test equipment (ANSI/IEEE C62.41 ring and combination waves) with nearly identical open-circuit voltage and short-circuit current calibrations have led to very different results. In these cases,

Re: [PSES] 208V/30A/3PH NEMA 3R power distribution question

2015-08-21 Thread Peter Tarver
potpourri to fit the application. Regards, Peter Tarver *From:* Adam Dixon [mailto:lanterna.viri...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 13:36 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] 208V/30A/3PH NEMA 3R power distribution question Thanks for the suggestion, Brian. I

Re: [PSES] Accreditation for standard comprehension?

2015-05-15 Thread Peter Tarver
ISO 17025 (General requirements for the competence of testing and calibration laboratories) has some requirements related to knowing what you’re doing. Regards, Peter Tarver *From:* Brian Gregory [mailto:brian_greg...@netzero.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:30 *To:* EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] UL HTTPS

2015-05-15 Thread Peter Tarver
UL recently changed a number of URLs and other items, probably as a matter normal churn. Several bookmarks no longer worked. This is probably a related thing that they'll work through in time. Regards, Peter Tarver -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015

[PSES] Serrated head screws for grounding/bonding

2015-02-26 Thread Peter Tarver
Good morning. I am reviewing the suitability of serrated head screws in grounding and bonding applications. I am aware that these screws are good at resisting vibration, but I've not seen them used for grounding and bonding purposes. I question this application since, while the serrations

[PSES] Looking for Steven Holmes, formerly of UL

2014-09-23 Thread Peter Tarver
Anyone know how to contact him? All contact information I have for Steven is outdated. E-mails bounce and the last telephone number I have for him is kaput. Regards, Peter L. Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or

Re: [PSES] Looking for Steven Holmes, formerly of UL

2014-09-23 Thread Peter Tarver
- From: Peter Tarver [mailto:ptar...@enphaseenergy.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:11 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Looking for Steven Holmes, formerly of UL Anyone know how to contact him? All contact information I have for Steven is outdated. E-mails bounce

Re: [PSES] weird stuff in agency agreement form

2014-09-15 Thread Peter Tarver
accepts our business. Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, disclose or distribute this message. If you received

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-08 Thread Peter Tarver
IEC 62109-1 considers “PV circuits in general” to be OVCII. Regards, Peter Tarver *From:* McDiarmid, Ralph [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] *Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2014 13:57 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter My

Re: [PSES] Exhaust fume hood recommendations

2014-06-23 Thread Peter Tarver
Brian - I'm looking to control smoke and fumes during component and other abnormal conditions, as well as UL 94 testing. Lots of food for thought. Thanks. Regards, Peter Tarver -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014

Re: [PSES] Exhaust fume hood recommendations

2014-06-23 Thread Peter Tarver
Doug – I’m familiar with those fans. They were used in a PBX system I was associated with in an alternate universe. Good variable speed control on them. I’m not sure I’ll need a spark arrestor, but I appreciate the reference. Regards, Peter Tarver *From:* Douglas Nix [mailto:d

Re: [PSES] Exhaust fume hood recommendations

2014-06-23 Thread Peter Tarver
surface. A simple stainless steel pan could transmit heat and create undesirable secondary effects.☺ An air gap might fix that, but then I need to come up with a good support system. Details, details ... Regards, Peter Tarver -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org

[PSES] Exhaust fume hood recommendations

2014-06-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Hi. I'm doing some research and am looking for recommendations for fume hoods for abnormal condition testing for my lab. I have an opportunity to have an exhaust to outside air system and am looking for your thoughts on what has worked well for you in terms of cfm capacity and which

[PSES] Greece and HAR cable

2014-04-11 Thread Peter Tarver
Following the link on the page to a HAR member list shows Greece is absent. Does anyone know the back story? Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended

Re: [PSES] use of AC contactor in PV application in US/CAN

2014-03-14 Thread Peter Tarver
switch for inverter output connections to the grid. Whether or not this switch can operate a contactor will depend on the jurisdiction involved. Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-02-26 Thread Peter Tarver
of the applicable standard) would be deemed critical. Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, disclose or distribute

Re: [PSES] Meaning of regulating network in 61010-1

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Tarver
is a narrower concept? In undergrad courses I attended, 'network' and 'circuit' were used interchangeably. Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may

Re: [PSES] Meaning of regulating network in 61010-1

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Tarver
be derived based on passive -v- active components, number of nodes, or based on function. Someone will always have a different opinion. In the standards world, they are used interchangeably. Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-16 Thread Peter Tarver
impulse start fans is that that generate negligible heat when stalled, but this method would remove all doubt. Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you

Re: [PSES] Cooling fan safety query

2013-12-13 Thread Peter Tarver
is an ongoing issue for everyone involved in product safety certifications. You can try to have a handful of alternates ready when the certification evaluation is performed and still have this concern because there's always a less expensive alternative available. Peter Tarver This email message

Re: [PSES] Circuit Breakers - Branch Circuit Protection vs Supplementary

2013-12-03 Thread Peter Tarver
for branch circuit protection and are only suitable for supplementary protection applications, unless it's used as a part of a Listed assembly identified for use as branch circuit protection. QVNU2 breakers are not suitable for branch circuit protection. Regards, Peter Tarver This email message

Re: [PSES] Circuit Breakers - Branch Circuit Protection vs Supplementary

2013-12-03 Thread Peter Tarver
From: Brian Oconnell Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:31 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG But there are, in fact, listed CBs intended for supp interrupt protect. I'm aware of UL Listed supplementary overcurrent protection fuses, but not CBs. What's the product category? Peter Tarver

Re: [PSES] EN 50581 part/range of parts

2013-11-22 Thread Peter Tarver
are immune to being illogical or ridiculous, either by design or through ignorance or negligence. ☺ Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may

Re: [PSES] Categorizing a new product

2013-11-21 Thread Peter Tarver
their web sites for these devices and get the flavor of their certifications. Fair warning, many specs. are not available in English. Regards, Peter Tarver *From:* Brian Ceresney [mailto:bceres...@delta-q.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 15:52 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

[PSES] CPSC product recall

2013-11-19 Thread Peter Tarver
For those who don't subscribe to InCompliance magazine or track recalls through other methods, the below link is related to a US product recall of a relocateable power tap with surge protection. http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2014/Schneider-Electric-Recalls-APC-Surge-P rotectors/ Regards,

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-11 Thread Peter Tarver
not be the contracted company's responsibility to take action beyond this minimal level, unless there's a desire to play extra nice until it's time to not play nice. If the contracted company's legal dweebs are on the ball, they're most likely already on these issues. Regards, Peter Tarver

[PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Tarver
There is occasionally much haranguing regarding how standards should be free. The NFPA has joined ASHRAE and ASTMhttp://www.nfpa.org/newsandpublications/nfpa-journal/2013/september-october-2013/pov/first-word?order_src=C247to claim otherwise. Regards, Peter L. Tarver This email

Re: [PSES] Public Service: Opt Out From Online Behavioural Advertising

2013-10-04 Thread Peter Tarver
to that site out of curiosity and it told me that to use the site to look at its content, I had to allow setting cookies in my browser (I have my browser to not allow third-party site cookies, but otherwise they're allowed). Must be Canadian humor.☺ Peter Tarver This email message

Re: [PSES] question on clause 6.3 and 1.4.11 of IEC60950-1

2013-09-17 Thread Peter Tarver
. Regards, Peter Tarver -Original Message- From: Zhangguoqing (A) [mailto:zhangguoq...@huawei.com] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 19:05 To: Peter Tarver; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: 答复: [PSES] question on clause 6.3 and 1.4.11 of IEC60950-1 Dear Peter, Thanks for your reply

Re: [PSES] 答复: [PSES] question on clause 6.3 and 1.4.11 of IEC60950-1

2013-09-16 Thread Peter Tarver
in this thread. Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, disclose or distribute this message. If you received this message

Re: [PSES] question on clause 6.3 and 1.4.11 of IEC60950-1

2013-09-16 Thread Peter Tarver
. Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, disclose or distribute this message. If you received this message in error

Re: [PSES] question on clause 6.3 and 1.4.11 of IEC60950-1

2013-09-13 Thread Peter Tarver
in telecommunications networks, in particular modular plugs/jacks, line cords and the like. Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may

Re: [PSES] Wire ampacities -

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Tarver
at an elevated temperature, etc. Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, disclose or distribute this message. If you

Re: [PSES] Standard for testing of high voltage penetrators

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Tarver
You can check CENELEC’s TC 20 web site. Regards, Peter Tarver *From:* Niels Hougaard [mailto:n...@bolls.dk] *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 07:23 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* [PSES] Standard for testing of high voltage penetrators Dear list members, High voltage

Re: [PSES] Norwegian RF Study

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Tarver
in further research. Regards, Peter Tarver *From:* Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 05:11 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* [PSES] Norwegian RF Study *The Norwegian Institute of Public Health released a study of electromagnetic exposure

Re: [PSES] breakage of the fuse

2013-08-08 Thread Peter Tarver
glass tube fuses crack, ferrules become dislodged (even on solder in place fuses), when the interrupting (breaking) capacity was too low for an application in end-product equipment. I'm glad the fuse will be replaced with another, more approriate type. Peter Tarver This email message

Re: [PSES] breakage of the fuse

2013-08-07 Thread Peter Tarver
. If each successive fuse replacement uses the same fuse, more of the same may result. If the product isn't returned for replacement or discarded, the fuse might eventually be replaced with a larger rated fuse with possible further degradation of safety. Peter Tarver This email message

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Peter Tarver
, there was about a 3 1/2 year transition window. Peter Tarver -Original Message- From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 08:06 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments Ha now I'm getting new

[PSES] Looking for an alternative to SII in Israel

2013-07-18 Thread Peter Tarver
Photovoltaic inverters and related equipment. Poor service and lousy communications are leading me to consider a move. Any input will be accepted. Regards, Peter L. Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-18 Thread Peter Tarver
*From:* McInturff, Gary [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 16:23 Anybody know the Docopocoss (or whatever on that) on IEC 60950-1:2001, First Edition Gary – *EN** *60950-1:2001 lost favor on 1DEC2010. You owe John Woodgate a nickel. Peter Tarver

Re: [PSES] safety 60950 and surge suppression circuits

2013-05-21 Thread Peter Tarver
of fulfilling their intended functions. This view is similar in concept to allowing a dc test when capacitances will allow excess currents to flow during the same tests. Your answer sells better in committee. Peter Tarver -Original Message- From: Richard Nute Hi Joe: Very quickly

Re: [PSES] UL warning regarding a wall receptacle

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Tarver
too much electricity, and so Google can let you know when you need to buy more certified organically produced, free trade soy-milk. Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you

[PSES] UL warning regarding a wall receptacle

2013-05-06 Thread Peter Tarver
UL warning regarding a wall receptacle (socket outlet) http://www.nema.org/News/Pages/UL-Warns-of-Potentially-Hazardous-Receptacl e.aspx I'm not aware if mixing of voltages is allowed in a duplex receptacle (I suspect it is not, since wiring errors become more likely and segregation of wiring

Re: [PSES] UL warning regarding a wall receptacle

2013-05-06 Thread Peter Tarver
)) Peter Tarver -Original Message- From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 10:11 To: 'Peter Tarver'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: UL warning regarding a wall receptacle Peter Whilst the link to the UL press release works

Re: [PSES] UL warning regarding a wall receptacle

2013-05-06 Thread Peter Tarver
receptacle with USB outlets in their listings for outlets. In such cases, I suspect the USB portion requires no field wiring and that the USB portion replaces one outlet from a duplex configured device. Is this accurate? Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use

Re: [PSES] HAR factories for marked cable

2013-04-25 Thread Peter Tarver
. Regards, Peter Tarver *From:* safetyl...@gmail.com [mailto:safetyl...@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Arthur Michael *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2013 20:14 *To:* Peter Tarver *Cc:* EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org *Subject:* Re: [PSES] HAR factories for marked cable Hi Peter et al, Here

[PSES] HAR factories for marked cable

2013-04-24 Thread Peter Tarver
Good afternoon. A cable supplier has mentioned that cables cannot bear the HAR marking if they are not manufactured within an EU country. This seems to be buried in HAR agreement documents that are out of my reach. Can anyone confirm this? Regards, Peter L. Tarver This email message is for

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