Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread ken.strauss
If you want spindle positioning (for more accurate probing of alignment for tool changes for examples) you'll need the encoder to follow the position at all speeds. Are there high RPM capable absolute encoders at a reasonable price? -Original Message- From: andrew beck Sent: March 27,

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, 27 March 2022 15:45:48 EDT ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: > If you want spindle positioning (for more accurate probing of alignment > for tool changes for examples) you'll need the encoder to follow the > position at all speeds. Are there high RPM capable absolute encoders > at a

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, 27 March 2022 19:25:42 EDT ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: > According to https://www.ia.omron.com/product/item/2463/ max RPM for > that model (E6B2-CWZ6C-2000P) is 6000. This I believe is the one, but I regularly spin it almost 3x faster than that. Not for hours on end of course but

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, 27 March 2022 15:20:22 EDT John Dammeyer wrote: > Just don't do what I did which is design the plate for a 3mm cutter and > then start the LCNC G-code with a 4mm cutter. John John, thats a mistake I might do. ;o) [...] Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread dave engvall
At high rpm a resolver may make more sense ... and more $$. Depends. ?? Dave On 3/27/22 2:03 PM, ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: Gene, do you have a part number for your high RPM Omron encoder? Maybe I can snag one... -Original Message- From: gene heskett Sent: March 27, 2022 4:49 PM

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread ken.strauss
Gene, do you have a part number for your high RPM Omron encoder? Maybe I can snag one... -Original Message- From: gene heskett Sent: March 27, 2022 4:49 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder On Sunday, 27 March 2022 15:45:48 EDT

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, 27 March 2022 17:03:14 EDT ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: > Gene, do you have a part number for your high RPM Omron encoder? Maybe > I can snag one... I don't know as I do, and a spare I bought a couple years ago when the coupling broke is now buried in 2 or 3 years of detrious in the

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread Martin Dobbins
gene heskett >I'd just search ebay for Omron encoder, and get the 20 dollar or so 1000 >ppr differential version. I expect it would work. Like this, maybe? https://www.ebay.com/p/2159915706?iid=333709462343 oops that's a 2000 ppr Martin ___

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread andrew beck
I currently have a 1000 PPR encoder on it. And that rigid taps great. Ideally I would like something similar How fast can those sensors read? 1000ppr at 10k rpm would be great But just thinking about it. I only actually need to be able to read encoder up to say 2000 rpm At high speed it

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, 27 March 2022 15:40:35 EDT andrew beck wrote: > Chris just reading your email again and looks like the sensors you > linked are good up to 1 mhz so I'm good to go. > > How wide a slot do you think they need to read the light through? > > If they could read 0.5mm that would be great >

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread Sam Sokolik
I am running a 48ish tooth gear with gear tooth sensors - it counts up to 10k with mesa. http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20190401_150213.jpg http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20190403_175734.jpg sam On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 4:27 PM dave engvall wrote: > At high rpm a

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread ken.strauss
According to https://www.ia.omron.com/product/item/2463/ max RPM for that model (E6B2-CWZ6C-2000P) is 6000. -Original Message- From: Martin Dobbins Sent: March 27, 2022 6:44 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder gene heskett >I'd just

Re: [Emc-users] Probing

2022-03-27 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
I was able to get this working. Thanks for the help. I ended up using a macro and modifying G54 Z offset. My probe is actually a mechanical switch with a touch plate. I use it by placing it on top of the workpiece, then probing with the cutter. This machine has the collet attached to the

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread Chris Albertson
THis goes to 10K RPM? that is 167 revolutions per second. 400 slots means 70 KHz signal. Can you design an inductive sensor that does 70KHz but is also sensitive enough for near zero RPM? Optical sensors can work up to 1MHz with no problem as they don't have any inductanve.You can buy a

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread andrew beck
Chris just reading your email again and looks like the sensors you linked are good up to 1 mhz so I'm good to go. How wide a slot do you think they need to read the light through? If they could read 0.5mm that would be great But I probably don't need that accuracy. I just want it as good as I

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread andrew beck
John haha yep I'll not do that. I'm thinking I'll use a 1mm cutter anyway if the sensors are good enough for that On Mon, 28 Mar 2022, 08:23 John Dammeyer, wrote: > Just don't do what I did which is design the plate for a 3mm cutter and > then start the LCNC G-code with a 4mm cutter. > John >

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread andrew beck
I have done that cutter size mistake on a 4k block of material before lol. Oops On Mon, 28 Mar 2022, 08:40 gene heskett, wrote: > On Sunday, 27 March 2022 15:20:22 EDT John Dammeyer wrote: > > Just don't do what I did which is design the plate for a 3mm cutter and > > then start the LCNC G-code

Re: [Emc-users] Probing

2022-03-27 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 28 Mar 2022, at 00:26, Thaddeus Waldner wrote: > > I was able to get this working. Thanks for the help. I ended up using a macro > and modifying G54 Z offset If you use G10 then it will use the current coordinate system. G10 is almost always the correct in to use for this.

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, 27 March 2022 14:31:16 EDT Chris Albertson wrote: > Forgot to include a link. You can buy the bare sensor but also you can > buy them on PCBs with connectors attached and ready to go. > amazon.com/Measuring-Optocoupler-Interrupter >

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, 27 March 2022 15:31:15 EDT andrew beck wrote: > I currently have a 1000 PPR encoder on it. And that rigid taps great. > > Ideally I would like something similar > > How fast can those sensors read? > > 1000ppr at 10k rpm would be great > > But just thinking about it. I only

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread Martin Dobbins
Yes, that's correct, it's also the same for 1000 ppr: https://www.ia.omron.com/product/item/2450/ Martin From: ken.stra...@gmail.com According to https://www.ia.omron.com/product/item/2463/ max RPM for that model (E6B2-CWZ6C-2000P) is 6000. -Original

Re: [Emc-users] Probing

2022-03-27 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
I am not at the machine right now but if memory serves me right, I used G10 L20 P1 Z1.588 Ah! I just saw that P0 is for the active coordinate system. Is P optional? Thaddeus Waldner From: Andy Pugh Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 7:55:07 PM To: Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread Chris Albertson
Forgot to include a link. You can buy the bare sensor but also you can buy them on PCBs with connectors attached and ready to go. amazon.com/Measuring-Optocoupler-Interrupter

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread Dmitry Yurtaev
i've made one with a TLE5012 chip. works for me up to 32krpm. i'm using SPI interface, but the chip also has ABZ output https://youtu.be/SIhoIOcmU-c /dmitry On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 10:09 AM andrew beck wrote: > Hey guys > I have a spindle encoder I want to set up for my 1rpm spindle on one

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread ken.strauss
The Omron E6D-C series are rated at 12,000 rpm The Omron E6H-C series are rated at 10,000 rpm I ordered an E6H from eBay with delivery promised in a month. The vendor claims new and 20 available. See https://www.ebay.ca/itm/183308776725 -Original Message- From: Martin Dobbins Sent:

[Emc-users] Ethercat, returning message disappear

2022-03-27 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
While working with Ethecat I have had some problems it does not work in special case with more than three devices of same kind. Checking with wireshark message sent around the ring never arrived back again. Investigating further first with oscilloscope and later on with second computer message

[Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread andrew beck
Hey guys I have a spindle encoder I want to set up for my 1rpm spindle on one of my cnc Mills I can laser cut a encoder disc and get some gear sensors. Max dia of the disc due to size constraints is 150 mm dia Questions are mainly design ones. What width of slots do I need in encoder disc?

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 27 Mar 2022, at 08:09, andrew beck wrote: > > And is bigger dia better for higher resolution? Probably not, as it will perhaps have more scope to oscillate at 10,000 rpm. Don’t neglect the purely mechanical design of this fast-spinning part. Have you considered optical sensors rather