Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 21/06/2017 4:03 pm, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:31PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 19/06/2017 10:23 am, Russell Standish wrote: I know Scott wouldn't go as far as me. For me, all such irreversible processes are related to conscious entities in some way. Whilst

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:31PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 19/06/2017 10:23 am, Russell Standish wrote: > >I know Scott wouldn't go as far as me. For me, all such irreversible > >processes are related to conscious entities in some way. Whilst > >agreeing that Geiger counters are unlikely

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 21/06/2017 4:03 pm, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:31PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>> >>> On 19/06/2017 10:23 am, Russell Standish wrote: I know Scott wouldn't go as far

Re: AI and social destabilization

I completely agree with you for a change. The job-centered society is already looking silly, and will soon look like medieval superstition. I am waiting for a wave of politicians that talk about "destroying jobs" instead of "creating jobs", but I won't hold my breath. I think that the current

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

On 20 Jun 2017, at 19:44, Brent Meeker wrote: On 6/19/2017 11:47 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Why would you say that if I fly from Bermuda to London it demonstrates that flights from Bermuda to Algiers and Algiers to London exist? Why should I not when I can find interference pattern

Re: substitution level

On 12 Jun 2017, at 01:46, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:34:44AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: KURTZ S. A., 1983, On the Random Oracle Hypothesis, Information and Control, 57, pp. 40-47. And I raise you with @Article{Chang-etal94, author = {Richard Chang and Benny

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

Bruno, do you believe there is a different world for every possible basis in which a spin (or other observable) might be measured? That seems pretty strange. On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:27:14 PM UTC+10, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 20 Jun 2017, at 19:44, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 22/06/2017 1:44 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Jun 2017, at 08:21, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 21/06/2017 4:03 pm, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:31PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 19/06/2017 10:23 am, Russell Standish wrote: I know Scott wouldn't go as far as me. For

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 22 Jun 2017 00:31, "Bruce Kellett" wrote: On 22/06/2017 1:44 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 21 Jun 2017, at 08:21, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >> On 21/06/2017 4:03 pm, Russell Standish wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:31PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>>

Re: AI and social destabilization

according to many nerds, humans won't be at the forefront of anything, due to AI, and machine learning. being "leader of the free world," and other such statements, are merely, sales pitches from lawyers who get elected into office, and so called journalists. Stumbling after people in the EU

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

Unless someone expects "consciousness" to leak in from the cosmic foam, I am guessing there is nothing intrinsic in the quantum (aside from wave-function) that possesses a 'consciousness,' possibility. Moreover the other two possibilities for hypercomputing, can come from two other

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 22/06/2017 10:32 am, David Nyman wrote: On 22 Jun 2017 00:31, "Bruce Kellett" > wrote: On 22/06/2017 1:44 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Jun 2017, at 08:21, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 21/06/2017 4:03 pm,

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 21 Jun 2017, at 08:21, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 21/06/2017 4:03 pm, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:31PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 19/06/2017 10:23 am, Russell Standish wrote: I know Scott wouldn't go as far as me. For me, all such irreversible processes are

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

Hi Pierz, On 21 Jun 2017, at 15:31, Pierz wrote: Bruno, do you believe there is a different world for every possible basis in which a spin (or other observable) might be measured? That seems pretty strange. I believe in 0 worlds, but in many relative computational histories, in