Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
Yes, I really spent a lot of time bawling my eyes out when I was on that list. Tell me, is pat klien still on there? Now, That is one very smart woman. I tried to email her not long ago and did not get a response. Love the name, Will Feral...LOL, What do u mean Alice was trapped at 6 weeks?

Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
I think it's just the panleukopenia vaccine that is grown on the kidney cells, I'll have to double check. Don't u think they would find another way? Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:08 AM, Beth Noren maxgoodb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marcia, Glad to hear Fletch is looking better!

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: [feral-cat-chat] Interesting information about the Felv Snap test...PLEASE READ

2011-08-26 Thread Beth
Is this the one that checks for heartworms also? Our shelter stopped using those because we found themunreliable. Beth  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   From: SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc:

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: [feral-cat-chat] Interesting information aboutthe Felv Snap test...PLEASE READ

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
I believe that 10 wks old is much too young to get a definite test of anything...they're still developing their immune systems, and had they been exposed in any way, things can change. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
I'll send the site where we order these little nematodes - but if a nursery has them, great! We used to get them from Dr. Goodpet.not sure, where we get them now. We are busily preparing for the hurricane. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-26 Thread Beth
You can never rely on a single ELISA, that's for sure. Plus we know labs mess up human tests, so we have to know that IFAs sent out can get messed up, too. even if they are truly positive they can live whatever life they have just as happily as any other cat! Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your

Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
All you have to do when administering antibiotics is to use probiotics mixed into their food. Just plain acidophiolus, will do, too. And if the cats happen to like yogurt, even better - but make sure you get real yogurt with real acidophilus, not some fake sweetended yogurt. -Original

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: [feral-cat-chat] Interesting information about the Felv Snap test...PLEASE READ

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
YES!! felv fiv and heartworms. that's what they used on all my cats! On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this the one that checks for heartworms also? Our shelter stopped using those because we found themunreliable. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
yes, that's true. we just have to manage. well i'm finding out from all of you that they can live a normal life...thank god! On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: You can never rely on a single ELISA, that's for sure. Plus we know labs mess up human tests, so we

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Tests

2011-08-26 Thread Lorrie
Our vet clinic uses these tests and I questioned them about it. They guarantee they are fine, and I've had at least 5 cats test negative on them, but I've heard too many bad reports of these FelV, FIV and Heartworm tests to have any confidence in them. Lorrie On 08-26, Marcia Baronda wrote:

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

2011-08-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Natalie Good luck with the hurricane! I hope there is no damage and no frightened cats! ~Bonnie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re:

[Felvtalk] Got this from an animal network:

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
FYI - did someone already post this? Seems familiar. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=654216039 Sam Thomas From A Feral Cat Chat List. I just learned some very interesting information about FELV. ??? had three cats test positive for it, when they knew that it was very unlikely (

Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

2011-08-26 Thread Lorrie
On 08-26, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Natalie Good luck with the hurricane! I hope there is no damage and no frightened cats! ~Bonnie I worry more about the millions of homeless cats in NYC DC and NJ than I do about the people. These animals have no place to go and people do.

Re: [Felvtalk] Got this from an animal network:

2011-08-26 Thread Beth
yes. someone posted it already. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: FYI - did someone already post this? Seems familiar. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=654216039 Sam Thomas From A Feral Cat Chat List. I just learned some very interesting information about FELV. ??? had three

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Tests

2011-08-26 Thread Beth
Unfortunately it's almost impossible to find a vet anymore who doesn't use the 3-way test. Guess I'll just pay the shelter from now on.  Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-26 Thread Beth
Yeah! One more convert to help spread the word about these babies! Beth  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Felvtalk] Got this from an animal network:

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
Yes, good luck. I will be thinking of you. Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: FYI – did someone already post this? Seems familiar. Sam Thomas From A Feral Cat Chat List. I just learned some very interesting information about FELV.

Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-26 Thread Beth
I don't vaccinate FeLV kitties. My 1st 2 FeLV girls died right after being  vaccinated I've heard of that happening from other people, too. Beth  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
That's my huge worry, too! Just think, the two kittens that drowned 2 weeks ago in a flooded backyard in Brooklyn, NY...I have the third that was scooped out of the water at night, and got their mom and dad, too. The baby is only5 wks old. This was just the rain - never mind what's coming this

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Tests

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
My vet doesn't. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 2:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Tests Unfortunately it's almost impossible to find a vet anymore who

Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
my vet vaccinated fletch when he was neutered...which i don't ever let anyone do, because i figure surery is gonna lower their immune systems...not a good time to vaccinate. but I was suprised when I saw on my bill that he had been vacd for felv...which i did not ask for. let me tell you, that cat

Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

2011-08-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
This inspired me to tell this story: I got my heart-cat, Stormy, 15 1/2 years ago. She was born to a feral mother. The woman feeding the mother cat noticed the cat getting fatter and fatter, then one day suddenly skinny again. She thought, Uh oh, bet she had kittens. So she followed the cat

Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
Anyone who uses Petsmart's veterinary plan should be aware that they pump every possible vaccine into cats.it is most important to specify in the beginning which vaccines you want and especially which ones you do NOT want. My friend uses that plan because it does save a lot of money..she brought

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2011-08-26 Thread Lorrie
It's very bad practice to vaccinate cats while they are having surgery, but vets do it, so now I write out instructions not to vaccinate, and put it on the cat's carrier when I bring them for surgery. I give my cats their PCRC, way before they have surgery, but Rabies vaccinations are the law

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2011-08-26 Thread Gloria Lane
That's pretty much why I do... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: It's very bad practice to vaccinate cats while they are having surgery, but vets do it, so now I write out instructions not to vaccinate, and put it on the cat's carrier

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2011-08-26 Thread Edna Taylor
Me too, they don't need all that every year From: gbl...@aristotle.net Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:52:43 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations That's pretty much why I do... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Lorrie

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
There are some really stupid vets out there. If you bring in a sick cat that doesn't have an up-to-date rabies vaccine, many will insist that they cannot treat a cat without one, and insist on vaccinating before treating the sick cat. My vet does NOT! I know of one veterinary hospital that will

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is fortunate enough to find one where they can take their cat, the nursing home is likely to require declawing. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: That is true, but I don't understand why an old person

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
Unfortunately, since I am a rescue group, I have to keep at least the required by law rabies vaccines current. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
A Trip to Costco Yesterday I was at my local COSTCO buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for my loyal pet, Jake, the Wonder Dog and was in the check-out line when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog. What did she think I had, an elephant? So since I'm retired and have little to do, on

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
OMG - you are responding to a post from March..I thought that I was going crazy and somehow missed a whole thread of talking about declawing, NOW! There are also some apartments that allow cats ONLY if they are declawed.I guess they prefer taking their chances of those cats peeing everywhere

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2011-08-26 Thread dlgegg
My vet gives the vaccin for rabies first and then we wait if surgery is needed Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Unfortunately, since I am a rescue group, I have to keep at least the required by law rabies vaccines current. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your email program organizes stuff. Anyway I did not look at the date. I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners literally to death after being given away, and honestly in that case I'd rather declaw them. Hopefully

Re: [Felvtalk] Seed Ticks?

2011-08-26 Thread dlgegg
Seed ticks are deer ticks at least around here Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What are seed ticks? I know about the big dog ticks and the tiny deer ticks. The deer ticks are very small, so are these what you call seed ticks? On 08-25, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: It

Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
that's a good LAUGH OUT LOUD!!! On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: A Trip to Costco Yesterday I was at my local COSTCO buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for my loyal pet, Jake, the Wonder Dog and was in the check-out line when a woman behind me asked if

Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread Heather
Hilarious!!! Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Aug 26, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: A Trip to Costco Yesterday I was at my local COSTCO buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for my loyal pet, Jake, the Wonder Dog and was in the check-out line

Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

2011-08-26 Thread dlgegg
Since Katrina, I have been accumulating carriers (have 7 cats). If I have to leave my home, they go with me. I have an Astro van and all I have to do is put the seats down and I have plenty of room for the carriers. I will leve my home and all else behind, but my cats go with me. I can

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2011-08-26 Thread Lynda Wilson
They should no better than to give an FIV shot. Once administered they will then always test positive for it whether they have it or not!! Idiots! - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:50 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread Lynda Wilson
Natalie, I have not had a laugh like that in a long time!!! Thanks so much for sharing. You are way too funny girl! I love your sense of humor. Gotta have it to keep your sanity, right?! Be safe! I hope your place does not sustain too much damage from Irene. Keep us posted! - Original

Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Thanks for the belly laugh.now I have to go change! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle A Trip to

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously- it is the most devastating thing for a cat. Knowing what I do, I would be more heartbroken doing it to a beloved cat than being without the cat, trust me. I wonder how a cat would feel if he/she knew that it had a choice between

Re: [Felvtalk] Seed Ticks?

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
Blacklegged ticks (misnamed deer ticks), acquire the spirochete bacterium from white footed mice and about another dozen or so small mammals and even birds. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
It wouldn't be you going without the cat, it would be the cat going without you. I have seen cats given up by their owners grieve and mourn themselves TO DEATH. I've seen cats given away by their owners be fine. I've seen cats who have been declawed suffer. I have seen cats who have been

Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

2011-08-26 Thread MaiMaiPG
You have a plan for your family. On Aug 26, 2011, at 6:51 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Since Katrina, I have been accumulating carriers (have 7 cats). If I have to leave my home, they go with me. I have an Astro van and all I have to do is put the seats down

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread MaiMaiPG
And who is going to take care of the cat if the owner isn't available? In many rural areas the cat will be taken to the pound or thrown out to take care of himself/herself. This is particularly hard for older cats. It is a judgment call that must be made with all factors considered and

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Terri Brown
Paws come with claws. Period. I once lost a job opportunity (which came with a free apartment) because the owner wanted me to declaw. I told him: Unfortunately for you, it will NEVER happen, because I believe it's cruelty to animals. Needless to say, I never got called for a second

Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread Beth
that's an oldie but a goodie. Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Natalie, I have not had a laugh like that in a long time!!! Thanks so much for sharing. You are way too funny girl! I love your sense of humor. Gotta have it to keep your sanity, right?! Be safe! I hope your place

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Gloria Lane
Problem is declawing is so harmful to adult cats- painful, hard to adjust to, it can ruin them. Not right for kittens, but for adults it's just mean, torturous. Just not a good thing to do. There are places that allow cats w claws but folks may not think bout that till the last thing. But then

Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread terrie
Thanks so much for the laugh! If someoneask that to me I will certainly remember this on my visit to Costco or wherever. I needed the laugh as I'm worried about some family members on the east coast. I hope those of you on the east coast are going to be okay. If you need to evacuate do so!

Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread Peggy Verdonck
LOL :-) On Aug 26, 2011 9:36 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: that's an oldie but a goodie. Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Natalie, I have not had a laugh like that in a long time!!! Thanks so much for sharing. You are way too funny girl! I love your sense of humor.

Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
ABSOLUTELY! They only have us to make sure they are safe(-: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:51 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Since Katrina, I have been accumulating carriers (have 7 cats). If I have to leave my home, they go with me. I have an Astro van and all I have to do is put the seats

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread katskat1
Just add this to the consideration. To summarize, 'declawing' is a misnomer. When a cat is 'declawed' they are having their toes amputated at the first knuckle. Period. Now, think about you having all ten toes cut off at the first knuckle. Kat On 8/26/11, Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
That's just for the cash! That is so stupid and it shows what they really care about. Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: There are some really stupid vets out there. If you bring in a sick cat that doesn't have an up-to-date rabies vaccine,

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Tell them: yeah, I’ll declaw my cat if you pull out all your teeth. That ought to shut them up! ~B. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: