Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2003-01-05 Thread David Drum
Quoth Michael Bonar: Hi David. I get a Forbidden error when I try to reach that link. Terribly sorry. The link should have been http://www.more.net/~david/FlightGear-0.9.1/html/ I turned on about every option available, and also built the graphical class hierarchy. Regards, David K. Drum

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2003-01-04 Thread David Drum
Quoth David Megginson: Luke Scharf writes: Where would I find documentation about code-layout of FGFS? I did a quick scan of flightgear.org and I didn't see a document that looked like it addressed this object does this and relates to the other objects like that question. Come

RE: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2003-01-04 Thread Michael Bonar
Of David Drum Sent: January 4, 2003 9:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar? Quoth David Megginson: Luke Scharf writes: Where would I find documentation about code-layout of FGFS? I did a quick scan of flightgear.org and I didn't see a document

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-28 Thread David Luff
David Megginson writes: Mike Bonar writes: I have been mostly interested in AI and terrain rendering, but I am open to working on anything. You can also take a look at Dave Luff's ATC code in src/ATC/ -- he might have some TODO jobs. Yup, there's a black hole full of TODO jobs in there!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-28 Thread David Megginson
David Luff writes: With regard to ATC, there's at least one other person working on it besides myself, but AFAIK no-one is attempting to model centre control - I might have the terminology wrong there but I'm referring to control of the airways away from airfield

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-23 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: Question: Is there any reason that ALL of the joysticks from the config files are represented in the 'resident' property tree ?? It's on my TODO list, but it someone else wants to take that over I'll be very happy. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL

RE: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-23 Thread David Megginson
Michael Bonar writes: MSVC6 has a Visio add-on that allows you to reverse engineer C code into UML diagrams. Anybody have experience with it? I was thinking of giving that a try to see what it looks like. In the meantime, I will see what I can find on code documentation. Many of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-23 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: Thanks. That's pretty handy. I notice that this does not seem to include all of the property information in some files, eg sound.xml (and several other .xml files seen when searching through the props file). Yes I noticed that this is not a *complete* dump

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-23 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Norman Vine writes: Thanks. That's pretty handy. I notice that this does not seem to include all of the property information in some files, eg sound.xml (and several other .xml files seen when searching through the props file). Yes I noticed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-23 Thread Mike Bonar
They are very helpful, and that's why the first test of Doxygen turned up such good results IMHO. If it's decided that this is the way to go, then a simple code documentation standard would need to be applied to the source to pull out the information we think is valuable. Cheers, Mike On

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-23 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: I see that but I thought one of the motivating factors for the 'properties' was to have a central location for all of the 'data' There are different kinds of data. The property tree is meant to represent the shared state of the program; when a subsystem happens to use an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Mike Bonar wrote: Okay, I have completed step one. I am up and running with the latest cvs snapshot on Suse 8.1. What's in the job jar? Give me something easy to start out with since it's been awhile since I have done any coding. Some background if you are interested, I spent a good chunk

re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread David Megginson
Mike Bonar writes: Okay, I have completed step one. I am up and running with the latest cvs snapshot on Suse 8.1. What's in the job jar? Give me something easy to start out with since it's been awhile since I have done any coding. Cleanup is always, always needed -- my only suggestion

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Julian Foad
David Megginson wrote: Cleanup is always, always needed -- ... We are slowly trying to get all of the parts of FlightGear to extend FGSubsystem (defined src/Main/fgfs.hxx) and to simplify the top-level loop in src/Main/main.cxx. That sort of top-level stuff really is best done by the

re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Luke Scharf
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 07:09, David Megginson wrote: We are slowly trying to get all of the parts of FlightGear to extend FGSubsystem (defined src/Main/fgfs.hxx) and to simplify the top-level loop in src/Main/main.cxx. Where would I find documentation about code-layout of FGFS? I did a quick

re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread David Megginson
Luke Scharf writes: Where would I find documentation about code-layout of FGFS? I did a quick scan of flightgear.org and I didn't see a document that looked like it addressed this object does this and relates to the other objects like that question. Come to think of it, that sounds like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Luke Scharf writes: Where would I find documentation about code-layout of FGFS? I did a quick scan of flightgear.org and I didn't see a document that looked like it addressed this object does this and relates to the other objects like that question. Come

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: A worthy project indeed but IMHO an even worthier project would be to collect all of the various properties into a single document that included 1) a short description of what it controlled 2) which xml file it resided in 3) which 'C' file set its default if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Norman Vine writes: A worthy project indeed but IMHO an even worthier project would be to collect all of the various properties into a single document that included 1) a short description of what it controlled 2) which xml file it resided in 3)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: Computer programs are a mix of algorithm and data and just because you take the data out of the 'C' code and stash it externally does nothing to alleviate the need to document it !! Agreed -- I'm simply pointing out the challenges. All the best, David -- David

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Norman Vine
Michael Selig As it relates to documenting things, I'd like to ask this again: Is this file property-api.html still around somewhere? This doc described the property tree. It was a draft from Curt I believe. It seems to me like the property stuff is the most important part of FGFS.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Michael Bonar
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Megginson Sent: December 22, 2002 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar? Luke Scharf writes: Where would I find documentation about code-layout of FGFS? I did a quick scan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Andy Ross
Michael Bonar wrote: MSVC6 has a Visio add-on that allows you to reverse engineer C code into UML diagrams. Anybody have experience with it? I was thinking of giving that a try to see what it looks like. It probably looks a lot like UML generated automatically from C code. :) I've never

re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Luke Scharf
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 13:01, David Megginson wrote: Luke Scharf writes: Where would I find documentation about code-layout of FGFS? I did a quick scan of flightgear.org and I didn't see a document that looked like it addressed this object does this and relates to the other objects

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Mike Bonar
Yes, I see where you are coming from, Andy. In the spirit of openness, I don't think that's the way to go either. However, I did run doxygen against the source code, and that is very cool. It's clean, simple, fast, and open. We could run a cron against the cvs directory each night, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Michael Selig
At 12/22/02, Norman Vine wrote: Michael Selig As it relates to documenting things, I'd like to ask this again: Is this file property-api.html still around somewhere? This doc described the property tree. It was a draft from Curt I believe. It seems to me like the property stuff is the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Mike Bonar
_Interested_ ;-) On Sunday 22 December 2002 20:48, Mike Bonar wrote: Yes, I see where you are coming from, Andy. In the spirit of openness, I don't think that's the way to go either. However, I did run doxygen against the source code, and that is very cool. It's clean, simple, fast,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What's in the job jar?

2002-12-22 Thread Norman Vine
Michael Selig writes: At 12/22/02, Norman Vine wrote: Michael Selig wrote: It seems to me like the property stuff is the most important part of FGFS. If one does not understand how to use this and code for it (both in xml and cpp), then you're never going to get anywhere. Ok,