Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Remove right access to CVS FlightGear/data

2009-03-31 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Tuesday 31 March 2009: I do accept to be the bad boy of the story , That's not what I said or meant to say. But what you are also not is an innocent victim of bad boys. As far as I know, nobody wanted or wants to get rid of you. (But then again, I only read the French forum

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Tuesday 31 March 2009: This means that, form now on, when testing the color components of an aircraft it is best to switch to 'fair weather' and play with visibility a bit (z to increase it, and shift+z to decrease it). Especially playing with visibility makes me believe that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Melchior FRANZ
This change doesn't look right to me: +float av = thesky-get_visibility(); +if (av 45000.0) av = 45000.0; +float visibility_norm = av/45000.0; -float specular = _specular_tbl-interpolate( deg ); +float specular = _specular_tbl-interpolate( deg ) * visibility_norm;

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in SGBucket::set_bucket

2009-03-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Hi, sorry for the long delay. I guess everybody just hoped that someone else would pick this up -- someone who's more familiar with the code. Now I intended to apply it locally and to commit it later. It sounds well researched and tested, and resource control means, after all, that one can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] fix uninitialized _aspect_ratio member in Main/viewer.cxx

2009-03-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Committed, thanks. Took a while because this looks really dangerous ... m. ;-) -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 16 March 2009: + vary callsign TACAN id + fly refueling pattern That's now done. The tanker flies a refueling pattern with length 50 nm and 25 degree turns. You get a warning 1 nm before the turn. Note that pilots also tank during the turn! Bank angle and turn rate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- Sunday 22 March 2009: specular type=vec4d .4 .5 .7 1.0 /specular Is it the whole file ? Are we talking about ten lines or tons of them ? Not even tons of that would justify breaking the internal property representation. If lines are *really* an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Instrumentation agradar.cxx, 1.3, 1.4 rad_alt.cxx, 1.2, 1.3 wxradar.cxx, 1.28, 1.29 wxradar.hxx, 1.20, 1.21

2009-03-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Sunday 22 March 2009: FWIW, I just checked in a small change that allows the AI Air Traffic controller to request the AI Aircraft to set a squawk code. Yeah, I've read that, and we've immediately discussed on IRC how to use that. Unfortunately, we didn't have an ATC/Radar

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Instrumentation agradar.cxx, 1.3, 1.4 rad_alt.cxx, 1.2, 1.3 wxradar.cxx, 1.28, 1.29 wxradar.hxx, 1.20, 1.21

2009-03-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Sunday 22 March 2009: On Sunday 22 March 2009 15:58:27 Melchior FRANZ wrote: One idea would be to put it by where the callsign is now, and only if it's not available use the callsign. Sound good. Just let me know If there's anything that I need to change. OK, I'll hack

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build with -Werror=format-security

2009-03-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederik -- Sunday 22 March 2009: Could you verify if this patch is correct, It isn't. It's double wrong. It changes from *using* a format to *displaying* it. And it introduces %d for a char*. m. -- Apps built with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Saturday 21 March 2009: To me the idea of giving nasal efficient access to vec3 and vec4 types for manipulating things like material properties, texture coordinates, lighting, and positions seems like the strongest argument for this proposal. And that's quite a weak reason!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Thursday 19 March 2009: I can only answer that i never had any problem with the actual AI/MP radar, it is very flexible , since the main required values x-shift, y-shift, in addition to the other useful aircraft data ( range-nm, altitude, heading ) are there. These data

Re: [Flightgear-devel] data/tanker.nas

2009-03-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* alex -- Friday 20 March 2009: * * Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 16 March 2009: - vary callsign TACAN id That's done. (Even a bit overengineered. ;-) - support more than just KC135 and KA6 tanker - support helicopter refueling (i.e. configurable airspeed) or generally: - allow aircraft

[Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
This will probably become a flame-war, but I see no way to avoid it. Tim plans to extend the property system with compound data types, such as VEC3, VEC4, or COLOR. We've discussed this three times in IRC, and I've always pointed out why this is IMHO a *BAD* thing, and why I strongly object. But

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Buganini -- Friday 20 March 2009: IMO, if these compound types are unavoidable, [...] They are very much avoidable. We've had colors and coordinates since *ages*. And what next? If we have VEC3, then what about POSITION, which contains latitude/longitude/altitude, and ORIENTATION with heading,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stuart Buchanan -- Friday 20 March 2009: I don't see any reason for this to become a flame-war. Umm, because some people seem to have an auto-responder that launches a hate-mail every time an email contains my name and object? :-] m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 20 March 2009: * Stuart Buchanan -- Friday 20 March 2009: I don't see any reason for this to become a flame-war. Umm, because [...] Arghh ... and that should have been a private mail to Stuart, with tongue in cheek. And now it looks as if *I* am the one who wants

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.120, 1.121

2009-03-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- Thursday 19 March 2009: Support old compilers - if(argc 2 or argc 3) + if(argc 2 || argc 3) Argh ... sorry! That's a contamination from Nasal. I don't get why g++ doesn't turn this nonsense off by default. Won't happen again. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Thursday 19 March 2009: With the usual AI tankers we have a lot of data regarding the Radar x-shift y-shift in-range , rotation, v-offset, .. and so on That tanker feature don't gives such information , it is missing , is it any valuable reason ? That's not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Thursday 19 March 2009: Then, do you mean that the old Radar Fashion will be removed, what a pity. I haven't planned that (yet). But in the long run it should get removed. This was an early mechanism to get the brand-new AI models on the screen (for the T38?), and that was OK

Re: [Flightgear-devel] hypothetical gpl question

2009-03-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Tuesday 17 March 2009: Everyone must have access to the source code. Only those who got the binary, directly or indirectly. From the FAQ http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#RedistributedBinariesGetSource: | My friend got a GPL-covered binary with an offer to supply

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] ac3d and materials

2009-03-16 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Mathias Fröhlich -- Monday 16 March 2009: In fact this just overwrites the material settings and throws away useful information [...] I would like to remove that step now and make use of the full material information contained in the ac file. Gets my vote! Which elements of the MATERIAL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nasal animation

2009-03-16 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* itaf telecom -- Monday 16 March 2009: I would like to know how to add an animation to an AI via nasal I tried to load it from it's xml but it doesn't work. This would be easier to answer if you explained more about what exactly you are trying. You can: - use XML embedded Nasal to add

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] ac3d and materials

2009-03-16 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Mathias Fröhlich -- Monday 16 March 2009: The ambient part (amb in the ac file) in the ac files is just ignored and set to the diffuse (rgb in the ac file) color part by the post processing step. Thanks. So getting the old result is beyond trivial. Then there's IMHO no reason to delay this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] ac3d and materials

2009-03-16 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Ron Jensen -- Monday 16 March 2009: Shouldn't ambient color be set scene wide? From an artistic point of view I can see setting it on a per-material basis, but for a simulation environment that controls the direct lighting already it makes sense to give the ambient color over to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Autopilot xmlauto.cxx, 1.36, 1.37

2009-03-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior Franz -- Sunday 15 March 2009: Modified Files: xmlauto.cxx Log Message: Merge branch 'master' of ../.fg.osg Sorry, should have been: Roy V. OVESEN: Actually initialize Ti and Td to the values in the config file. I used to fix such mishaps by changing the log message

Re: [Flightgear-devel] white horizontal line on screen

2009-03-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Sunday 15 March 2009: I am getting an horizontal line on screen , that is not new, Yes, that's where near-camera and far-camera meet (well, or *should* meet :-). It's a known problem, and was reported before. It should definitely not be in fgfs 2.0. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Sunday 15 March 2009: You should know that aircrafts which have some specific AAR won't be able to use it. All that work(ed) with the tanker scenarios should also work with this. It doesn't do anything magic. Just offer a tanker and set the aircraft's contact flag if it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Sunday 15 March 2009: = make sure /systems/refuel/ exists = Since a specific AAR could use any other specific property This should have been systems/refuel, without the leading slash. It's the tanker's property /ai/model/tanker[*]/refuel/contact. This is the one and only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
While we are at it, here some comments on tanker.nas: There's a menu entry AI/MP-Tanker, which opens a small dialog where you can request a tanker. It'll contact you and tell you something like this: MOBIL3 at 15000, heading 130 with 250 knots, TACAN 062X At the moment TACAN is always 062X,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] XML schema files for FlightGear

2009-03-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Torsten Dreyer -- Friday 13 March 2009: http://www.t3r.de/fg/xml/Docs/autopilot.xsd.html Looks nice. I have quite a few schema files with annotation ready [...] Does FlightGear need xml schema files? Would anybody besides me use them? What would be the appropriate place to store them?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mouse FoV control patch

2009-03-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 11 March 2009: We could also remove the trim function from the normal mode, which would fix that problem too. That would leave the mouse wheel operating the trim only in yoke mode, which seems logical. Sounds reasonable. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Reproducible crash in mk_viii.cxx

2009-03-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Tuesday 10 March 2009: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 14:04:47 Geoff McLane wrote: ~/fg$ gdb --args ./fgfs --fg-root=... etc etc (gdb) run gdb doesn't accept command line options for the program you're debugging. Yes, it does. Geoff's line was correct. :-) m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
FlightGear needed a built-in scripting language, and it has one. A compact, clean, elegant and fast one. In total there are at the moment more than 170.000 lines of Nasal in *.nas files and a few thousands embedded in joystick drivers, dialog description files, model animation files, keyboard.xml,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
and YASim based on undisclosed sources, not on reality. It's rare that I have to read so much nonsense here on the list. Again, never my intent : we're talking about a fork, a specialized version of FGFS. That's fine, then. * Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 08 March 2009: What are Lua's advantages

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Sunday 08 March 2009: Melchior is exactly right. JSBSim adopted the property system - which is a great piece of work by - was it David Megginson? Yes. For those who don't know him: David is/was also JSBSim developer, wrote SAX (Simple API for XML), and several of the core

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 08 March 2009: [reasons for why I write PM in the forum] - self-proclaimed forum police trying to tell others what they can write - some forum admins asking for more censorship without acceptable reasoning Sorrym, should have been: people asking for more moderators

Re: [Flightgear-devel] an idea about dialog-apply command

2009-03-07 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 22 February 2009: To make listeners work as expected the solution is to make *listeners* work as expected, not to change dialog-apply in a way that makes them not work as expected. ;-) This should now work. A dialog-apply change might come later. Or not. (I'm still

Re: [Flightgear-devel] today's bug with pilot list

2009-03-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* jean pellotier -- Monday 23 February 2009: Hi, today i got a bug in pilot list, the pilot list windows disappeared with a message in console: | Nasal runtime error: floating point error in math.sin() | at $FG_ROOT/Nasal/geo.nas, line 160 | called from: $FG_ROOT/Nasal/multiplayer.nas,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Erro in joystick configuration file for Saitek Cyborg 3D running

2009-03-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jari Häkkinen -- Monday 02 March 2009: - mac2/mac + mac3/mac Committed, thanks. m. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-02-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Adding another language wouldn't be that hard. Actually, we had another one before nasal and beside nasal for a while. It was called PSL (plib scripting language), and we ripped it out because Nasal was/is just better and because offering and maintaining two languages it utterly pointless . And

Re: [Flightgear-devel] an idea about dialog-apply command

2009-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- 2/23/2009 10:18 AM: the node value shall not be read twice Disregard! You aren't doing that, and why should you?! But also don't read the widget value twice, please. :-) m. -- Open Source Business

Re: [Flightgear-devel] an idea about dialog-apply command

2009-02-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
I object to the proposed change. (Reasons below.) * Sébastien MARQUE -- 2/21/2009 2:39 AM: In this script you'll find several listeners linked to several properties that can be modified using instrument-failures.xml or system-failures.xml. Except that these are *not* change-only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] an idea about dialog-apply command

2009-02-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- 2/21/2009 9:33 AM: You should have used: setlistener(f ~ /serviceable, failure[f], 0, 1); Whoops. Of course, I meant: setlistener(f ~ /serviceable, failure[f], 0, 0); The meaning of the first optional argument is: 0 ... just attach (default) 1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wildfire ?

2009-02-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: Won't it be better to have it default false ? Yes. I did not find any box within menu to modify it like we have with cloud , light and so on. Menu-Environment-Wildfire Settings For some reason, if we don't want it ( look like a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader Crusader-SetBase.xml, 1.23, 1.24

2009-02-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Saturday 14 February 2009: Log Message: withdraw the game coat + environment + wildfire + fire-on-crash type=bool false/fire-on-crash + /wildfire + /environment AIRCRAFT MUST *NOT* CHANGE SYSTEM SETTING! This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/F-8E-Crusader

2009-02-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Saturday 14 February 2009: No I think Melchior is justified (as occasionally can be the case) :-) :-P We could simply default wild fires to off in the preferences.xml file and that is perhaps the thing to do. Exactly, and as I've said before: | Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Harry Campigli -- Tuesday 10 February 2009: I have used SUSE for years, currently using 10.3. but feel it has gone off since version 9. Can you be more specific? Or is this just political feeling? Everything from the install worked of the mark. Unlike SUSE. What was the problem? I use

[Flightgear-devel] Git MS Windows

2009-02-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
MS Windows users who are interested in Git might want to check this out: http://code.google.com/p/gitextensions/ Nice screenshots there as well. :-) m. -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser

[Flightgear-devel] nasal debug mode: --prop:debug=1

2009-02-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
setprop() did in the past check whether the write operation was successful, and issued an error message if not. The other property setter functions didn't care. None of the functions returned a success value. Yesterday I removed the built-in setprop() check, because this message was almost never

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Arnt Karlsen -- Saturday 07 February 2009: Then why are you here, asking us for freebee help? ^^ I'm sure he didn't specifically ask you anything. Posting to flightgear-devel usually means you want to address FlightGear developers (in the widest sense) -- and I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim sliding helicopters bug

2009-02-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Diogo Kastrup -- Thursday 05 February 2009: The bigger problem with this approach is the Carrier, but I don't see why it shouldn't work. Although I haven't got it working so far. I hope this can be solved soon, so I can send the patch as a proof of concept. IMHO it is working pretty well on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Update to data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kx165

2009-02-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stuart Buchanan -- Tuesday 03 February 2009: I was looking at the mask tag for the property-adjust, which I noticed wasn't previously used in the kx165. However, when I tried it I found two problems. [...] 1) The maskdecimal/mask affected high-order integer values as well That should be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim sliding helicopters bug (+ ugly fix)

2009-02-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* LeeE -- Tuesday 03 February 2009: Have the people having bad problems with this tried increasing the values for the sfric dfric gear sub-elements? Yes, of course. I really, really hope that I haven't forgotton about other, similarly obvious things in the many hours that I tried to fix the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim sliding helicopters bug (+ ugly fix)

2009-02-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* LeeE -- Tuesday 03 February 2009: Do you still get problems if you set the windspeed to zero? Yes. With pretty much the same sliding speed. m. -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim sliding helicopters bug (+ ugly fix)

2009-02-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Tuesday 03 February 2009: It's a tough problem, [...[ Maybe we should hire a rocket scientist? :-] m. -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim sliding helicopters bug (+ ugly fix)

2009-02-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* LeeE -- Tuesday 03 February 2009: I just had a look at the latest version of the bo105 that I have here and the sfric is set to 0.5 and the dfric to 0.4, which are both lower than default values of 0.8 0.7. I know. But I also tried 1.0 for both (the maximum), and it had no effect. Other

[Flightgear-devel] YASim sliding helicopters bug (+ ugly fix)

2009-02-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Ever since helicopter support was added to the YASim FDM there's an annoying bug: even when parked, with rotor off and braked, helicopters slide happily around on the ground. Andy knows about it and explained why it happens, but claims that there's nothing to be fixed in the FDM code. Instead, he

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim sliding helicopters bug (+ ugly fix)

2009-02-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Diogo Kastrup -- Monday 02 February 2009: This patch started just for fun to see if I could help this sliding problem, that annoyed me a lot since I love flying helicopters. A true fix would indeed be nice. The problem is that I have to keep the stuck point moving with the carrier but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Update to data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kx165

2009-02-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Torsten Dreyer -- Monday 02 February 2009: I have been working with this patch for a while now and I think it is an improvement and should be applied. Sounds good, but hold on: Stuart told me on IRC that he works on something better, and that the Nasal code might be obsolete ... You

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim sliding helicopters bug (+ ugly fix)

2009-02-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Heiko Schulz -- Monday 02 February 2009: Well, I noticed today that putting all ballast at one spot helps a lot. Means: all ballast used has the same coordinates. [...] But it don't work on the bo105 due to the named things by m. I guess. Hardly. I can adjust static masses, but not all the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main globals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-02-01 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Friday 30 January 2009: The traditional unix scheme, and most linux packaging schemes, assume only one version of the software at one time. [...] How about running a live version off a CD? I don't see the problem. There's one executable, which you start like any other

[Flightgear-devel] Model View

2009-02-01 Thread Melchior FRANZ
There's now a Model View. Like all new views it's activated by default. Disable it in Menu-View-View Options if you don't like it. It's really only useful for multiplayer: it allows to switch through all multiplayer aircraft and to watch them while they crash. :-) If this view is active, then

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main globals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-02-01 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 01 February 2009: Any of the applications are only interested in FG_DATA. And please not again a fallback from FG_DATA to FG_ROOT/data, because that just repeats that old mistake. No, wait! This would actually be ok: If FG_DATA is defined, use data from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in fgjs?

2009-01-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Reagan Thomas -- Friday 30 January 2009: It looks like templatefile.append(Data); should be inserted before: No. This is just a case of badly set FG_ROOT. The template file can be found under $FG_ROOT/Input/Joysticks/template.xml, just like the version file is $FG_ROOT/version. Set

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main globals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-01-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* someone off list, but IMHO this should be discussed openly: [...] but the intent is for FG_ROOT to point to a top level directory (i.e. the root) and beneath that would be bin/ data/ src/ lib/ include/ etc There's only one reason why we need to point fgfs and associated scripts and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main globals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-01-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Friday 30 January 2009: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Melchior FRANZ mfr...@aon.at wrote: Wow, I'm sorry if I caught you on a bad day. This was a good day! Until someone reported once again how he ran into this stupid ambiguity, and someone else posted a broken fix

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Mainglobals.cxx, 1.61, 1.62

2009-01-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Daan -- Friday 30 January 2009: This was a good day! Until someone reported once again how he ran into this stupid ambiguity, and someone else posted a broken fix. And it won't be the last time that this happens. I hope this was not me, It was you, but it wasn't your fault, nor

[Flightgear-devel] plib/svn recommended

2009-01-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
In the last time I've submitted several fixes to plib, all of which are now committed. It is now recommended to use plib/svn (HEAD). Here's a list of the most important changes: - fix calculation of the slider handle size in textbox widgets (as used in the nasal-console, the joystick info,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.9.1

2009-01-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Sunday 25 January 2009: Notice that this bugfix release is based on a subset of commits (bugfixes only) Note that there's still the very annoying Warning:: Picked up error in TriangleIntersect bug. Unfortunately, I can't offer a fix. :-/ m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] distance to camera property

2009-01-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Sleeman -- Saturday 24 January 2009: Is there a property one can read which gives the distance to the camera/observer specifically in the external views, var aircraft = geo.aircraft_position(); var viewer = geo.viewer_position(); var distance = viewer.direct_distance_to(aircraft);

Re: [Flightgear-devel] R.I.P. MSFS?

2009-01-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Looks like some self-proclaimed experts don't have a very high opinion of fgfs' realism: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/7s2hf/microsoft_shuts_down_flight_simulator_game_studio/ Flightgear is a toy. MS Flightsim could and was (Germany, 2005) actually be used in flight training.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Update to data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kx165

2009-01-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stuart Buchanan -- Saturday 24 January 2009: The patch is attached. I'm not that familiar with the case, but wasn't the diagnosis first that it's a bug somewhere? In this case I wouldn't like a nasal hack around that in common space. I prefer fixes to hacks. :-) Assuming that we want to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Saturday 24 January 2009: My point [...] was to remind that period when we had a specific stable aircraft directory. When was that? I'm FlightGear developer since March 2001, and in that time we never had such a directory. And at that time we only had one aircraft, so I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flyby volume

2009-01-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Sleeman -- Friday 23 January 2009: fgcommand(reinit, props.Node.new({ subsystem: fx })) Also note that you can execute code in nasal-console tabs by typing :digit, without having to open the dialog. (There's no such shortcut for tab 10. Maybe I should have numbered them starting with 0?)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] a few more bugs

2009-01-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* John Denker -- Friday 23 January 2009: 81::The FlightGear interface to the festival text-to-speech server [...] doesn’t work [...] It hasn’t worked for years. I have never heard of anyone actually using it. Works for me since years. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Tim Moore -- Thursday 22 January 2009: * Don't say the aircraft are GPL'ed. Models are under any random license; seller beware. Yuck. * Rip out the non-GPLed models. * Create GPL'ed and other aircraft repositories. Or, as has been suggested before, do actually remove all occurrences of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Thursday 22 January 2009: Bingo737 Boing 314? That wouldn't work. It's too similar, as probably any court will find. Actually, David Slocombe had a good suggestion earlier. I'll formulate a letter to the Software Freedom Law Center and ask them for guidance. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Maik Justus -- Thursday 22 January 2009: Vivian Meazza schrieb am 22.01.2009 11:17: I would think that the attenuation of sound in air is amenable to mathematical calculation. Yes it is. But it depends on the frequency pattern, no? So we'd need to analyze the spectrum ... time to use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] doppler volume

2009-01-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Thursday 22 January 2009: Melchior FRANZ I don't see any particular merit is setting the value in preferences.xml, but it would be nice if the default values worked as designed, no matter where they are set. It's always nice to have default values changeable, rather than

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flyby volume (was: Doppler volume)

2009-01-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* John Denker -- Thursday 22 January 2009: On 01/22/2009 06:05 AM, Melchior FRANZ wrote: But it depends on the frequency pattern, no? So we'd need to analyze the spectrum ... time to use libfftw3. No, the 1/r^2 attenuation is independent of frequency. No FFT required. The law

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flyby volume

2009-01-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Thursday 22 January 2009: I don't think aircraft designers should be asked to specify the reference distance either, Sure, some automatism would be nice. I might even drop my hand-crafted values if that works well. It would be nice to have a modulation factor property that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flyby volume

2009-01-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Thursday 22 January 2009: On jeudi 22 janvier 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: The law is the same, but the distances aren't. Lower frequency travels farther. Not fully right. Only right when high frequencies are stopped by objects. Yes, and there are enough particles

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: [...] Modified Files: Boeing314A.xml Log Message: Add the license statement + license + licenseNameGPL (General Public License)/licenseName + licenseURLhttp://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html/licenseURL +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml, 1.5, 1.6

2009-01-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: I was told by a layer, since we are writing that the model is copyrighted protected under Licence GPLV2 , we may write anything we want as addons regarding the protection, these addons won't be taken in account , and one may ignore it. That

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Boeing314 Boeing314A.xml,

2009-01-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money? Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 21 January 2009: Neither the name of (any of) the authors nor the names of (any of) the manufacturers may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this file. Maybe it should be made clear that this part is not an addition to the license -- not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Resizable dialog boxes

2009-01-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Tuesday 20 January 2009: The resizable dialog boxes are very nice! Yeah, especially property browser and Nasal console profit a lot. It's actually a bit embarrassing that we haven't had that since years, and I take my share of the blame. I had even started implementing it a few

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Failure Management was airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-18 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Heiko Schulz -- Sunday 18 January 2009: He put his code in the forum, and I think it is worth enough not only to have a look into than comitting it into CVS! I'd like Stuart to have a look, as he already has such a script. Maybe ideas of the less sophisticated one can be used in the other.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] is gimp sgi rgb handling broken or not?

2009-01-16 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Yes, we've seen corrupted, GIMP-created SGI images before. Ironically, GIMP claims that SGI doesn't support (spec compliant) aggressively compressed SGI(!) images. It does, but maybe not GIMP's garbage? ;-) m. -- This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP Liveries for Boeing 737-300

2009-01-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stuart Buchanan -- Thursday 15 January 2009: [+26 liveries] My view is that they should be kept with the aircraft. Of course, liveries should generally be kept with the aircraft. But how many? Do 50 liveries for an aircraft make sense? Or 100? 200? Liveries are quickly made but can be quite

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP Liveries for Boeing 737-300

2009-01-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Csaba Halász -- Thursday 15 January 2009: How about we work out a way to transfer liveries (and maybe whole models) over MP? As long as I can turn it off, I don't have a problem with it. But I think it's a rather bad idea. First, because lagging and freezing is already bad for loading

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug reports... weather, and ILS...

2009-01-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 14 January 2009: In v1.9.0, they are separated, so you must have the weather scenario set to METAR for real-weather-fetch to work and be updated by subsequent METAR updates. Just for the record: METAR scenario is automatically chosen by the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] new JSBSim CVS for FlightGear?

2009-01-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Sunday 11 January 2009: I was wondering if this would be a good time to update JSBSim again or would it be better to hold off a bit? If an update means having to update all JSBSim aircraft (configs), then I'd wait until we have released 1.9.1 or decided that we won't release

Re: [Flightgear-devel] dialogs now resizable

2009-01-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 10 January 2009: Resizing is at the moment done like dragging, but with Ctrl-key pressed (at the beginning). The dialog margins are now sensitive for resizing. If one presses Ctrl in addition, then the sensitive area expands to the whole dialog. I'm aware

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.9.1

2009-01-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Sunday 11 January 2009: As far as I'm concerned, we'll be doing a 1.9.1 bug fix release soon. Agreed. I would indeed recommend that major updates to important system are held off until we have released 1.9.1. While I consider resizable dialogs a major feature (at least

[Flightgear-devel] dialogs now resizable

2009-01-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
I've just committed code that makes selected dialogs resizable, namely those with resizabletrue/resizable setting. Resizing is at the moment done like dragging, but with Ctrl-key pressed (at the beginning). Dialogs expand to North-East, which is a bit unusual and might be changed later. Please

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changing font in textbox

2009-01-09 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* KOCH Mate -- Thursday 08 January 2009: - I can't completely disable the scrollbar (even if I set the width of it to zero, the scrollbar is still visible, and it is also without any text in the box) PLIB only hides the scrollbar in the list but not the textbox widget at the moment. This will

Re: [Flightgear-devel] NaN hunting, part #2: YASim/Thruster.cpp rev 1.3

2009-01-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- 1/1/2009 11:14 AM: This hasn't mattered up to Melchior's patch, because THROTTLE in YASim was clamped to positive values. And it is *still* clamped to 0..1 by default. But, of course, nothing should break if an FDM developer changes the clamping explicitly. m.

[Flightgear-devel] screenshots for v1.9

2008-12-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Durk has suggested that I repeat some of my screenshot tips, as we need stunning new screenshots for the flightgear.org website. (What I write isn't binding, as I don't do this in any official function.) (1) contents: Obviously, screenshots should focus on new features/scenery/aircraft. Those

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