Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-09-26 Thread Martin Spott
Alex D-HUND wrote: plib: Version 1.8.6. Why and how to obtain it can be found here [1]. Pretty old but still up to date, as far as I know. BTW, just for the record (and to finally purge this thread from my inbox): I remember a rule which says that FlightGear releases are requested to rely on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-09-26 Thread Curtis Olson
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.netwrote: Alex D-HUND wrote: plib: Version 1.8.6. Why and how to obtain it can be found here [1]. Pretty old but still up to date, as far as I know. BTW, just for the record (and to finally purge this thread from my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:42:41 +0200, Alex wrote in message 20110621234241.5daf0f9e@main: I am using system: Linux 2.6.39.1 #2 SMP x86_64 GNU/Linux Debian Stable/Squeeze ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4200] ..a laptop? Driver: fglrx, mostly latest version, 11.6 atm (11.1/11.2 during

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-22 Thread Alex D-HUND
Am Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:20:17 +0200 schrieb Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:42:41 +0200, Alex wrote in message 20110621234241.5daf0f9e@main: I am using system: Linux 2.6.39.1 #2 SMP x86_64 GNU/Linux Debian Stable/Squeeze ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:37:27 +0200, Alex wrote in message 20110622133727.6a7007df@main: Am Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:20:17 +0200 schrieb Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:42:41 +0200, Alex wrote in message 20110621234241.5daf0f9e@main: I am using system: Linux

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-22 Thread Alex D-HUND
Am Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:48:59 +0200 schrieb Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net: On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:37:27 +0200, Alex wrote in message 20110622133727.6a7007df@main: Am Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:20:17 +0200 schrieb Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:42:41 +0200, Alex wrote in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-21 Thread Alex D-HUND
I am also interested in this and since nobody replied yet I am starting the discussion by bringing up my personal experiences: OpenAL-Soft/libopenal: AFAIK at least version 1.11.753 is needed to have all features (like doppler), though older versions may work as well. plib: Version 1.8.6. Why

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-21 Thread Robert
Yes OSG 2.9.10 works best if you can compile it. But on Debian sid/unstable I'm unable to compile it with gcc/g++ 4.6. So I'm using 2.9.15 right now with some font size issues. 2011/6/21 Alex D-HUND f...@beggabaur.de I am also interested in this and since nobody replied yet I am starting the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-21 Thread Alex B.
Am Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:42:41 +0200 schrieb Alex D-HUND f...@beggabaur.de: Oops, wrong link for the plib version. Should be: [1]http://www.mail-archive.com/flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg20793.html I am also interested in this and since nobody replied yet I am starting the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-20 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Short version for the impatient reader: Please do _NOT_ push any major changes or new features to simgear, flightgear, fgdata until further advice! snip Please refrain from pushing new features or major infrastructure changes to our

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Please refrain from pushing new features or major infrastructure changes to our streams. Please note: this includes fgdata, too! [...] What's the position on aircraft updates? They're part of fgdata ;-) Indeed,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Martin Spot wrote: Stuart Buchanan wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Please refrain from pushing new features or major infrastructure changes to our streams. Please note: this includes fgdata, too! [...] What's the position on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread James Turner
On 20 Jun 2011, at 21:18, Stuart Buchanan wrote: No, not generally. Obvious fixes are ok, major overhauls are not, in case of doubt I'd propose that the changes in question should be reviewed (which is a darn good idea anyway ;-) Well, I _was_ planning to review the changes. :)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Stuart, Stuart Buchanan wrote: Both of the changes in question are major model overhauls to the respective models (c172p, c150). Comments on the state of the c172 model went unheard for months, therefore I'd like to hear a really convincing reason why such major overhaul can't wait until

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi all, Stuart wrote: Both of the changes in question are major model overhauls to the respective models (c172p, c150). I need to correct that slightly. All I've been working on is a (c172p) new panel including the pedestal. There were a lot of faults and missing switches in the previous

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Martin Spott wrote: Comments on the state of the c172 model went unheard for months, therefore I'd like to hear a really convincing reason why such major overhaul can't wait until the tree is open for the next development cycle. Not quite unheard - just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: I don't think there's a convincing reason why it can't wait until the next development cycle, but I was unclear as to whether aircraft were considered major features. Ah, well, aircraft are a pretty prominent feature in flight simulation, don't they ;-) While we're

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state

2011-06-20 Thread James Turner
On 20 Jun 2011, at 21:52, Martin Spott wrote: This is the first time we're aiming at having one release every six months and not everything will be perfect on the first attempt. Anyhow I'm still proposing to let us familiarize ourselves with the implications of having a release plan instead

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-19 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Torsten Dreyer skrev 2011-06-17 21.47: Anticipating the release 2.4.0, we reached our first milestone today. The development streams for flightgear, simgear and fgdata on gitorious are now declared frozen. The above states quite clearly that testing is expected to be against the source

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-18 Thread James Turner
On 17 Jun 2011, at 20:47, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Thanks for supporting our effort to create the next FlitghtGear release Woo-hoo, release process! Thanks to Torsten for driving the release, and ThorstenB for already doing a huge amount of bug-fixing. If you've previously filed bugs in

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-17 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Short version for the impatient reader: Please do _NOT_ push any major changes or new features to simgear, flightgear, fgdata until further advice! Long version: Anticipating the release 2.4.0, we reached our first milestone today. The development streams for flightgear, simgear and fgdata on