Lots of animated background gifs, more or less ok. Running gags. Cgis etc
dont work and some knowledge of the german language might be usefull.
Sotosay the dramatisation of one very simple idea. Works nicenst in the
lan, xpaint, xanim and xv, mostly even with windoze, have a look at
Thanks for the visit ;-)
Sotosay the dramatisation of one very simple idea. Works nicenst in the
lan, xpaint, xanim and xv, mostly even with windoze, have a look at
http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/demo/.
hmmm... manpage art. You may have invented a new genre ;-)
There is a lot more.
ps: heiko, i would like to do your event "going into museum without paying" new
weekend in hannover.
Hope this gives an update for our list ;-)
I called the link to your HH tips "Parole Emil".
Heiko
http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/demo/ at "blau, blau".
Amazing video its not Gary.
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they've really and truly surrendered. They're even paying etoy's legal
bills.
This is nice. etoy is such a better label than etoys. etoys is like etoys
are us, etoy is like gameboy.
Heiko
/information around and through political regimes. Fleck's call to action
is an opportunity to creatively collaborate to make sure that Nazi
communication and propoganda techniques, well proven to be powerful tools
of repression, are responded to by a world of online artists who are
Haider is lame. Sweatshirt. Dayly soaps
There was a soap opera from Miami, Miami Vice.
Austria is difficult and the reactions are to simple.
Europe is difficult too., where do you want to go today ?
H.
We call it in France "recuperation", I don't know the word in english.
Its one of the cheap myths of France. Mitterant stopped this simplicistic
view, black and white thinking.
What the EU is doing in the Austria case is Imperialism. And all I hear
from France is "we have to stop it".
From
It's time to stop understanding! In Germany every rigth-wing skinhead,
who slaughtered an immigrant, receives sympathic judgement - because of
his drunken mother, his work-less father and so on. And then he is sent
to a holiday camp for three weeks instead of being put into prison for
15
Valery,
On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, valery grancher wrote:
Der Heiko
Valery, have you ever seen an austrian paper, ever been in Vienna ?
I've been in Vienna I exhibited in Linz ... nice country with a great young
generation ! wand what about the old people I met who don't have any sorrow
never find any punk, hippie, rasta, anarchist etc. because they all were
expelled by the "tolerated" and "accepted" right-wing youth groups - in
most cases by violence. Moreover, these groups use the centre rooms to plan
the next assault on an immegrant, the next neo-nazi demonstration, the
It sounds like Haider is a sort of Jesse Ventura type, with more
unfortunate predilections. Jesse not being a bigot, but rather a rowdy.
Maybe, I dont know Ventura. Haider isnt anyhow brutal looking or so. I
think he is a typical right wing liberal (in the sense of chicago
economists, who
Hi,
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Sol Nte wrote:
Things like that are allready done or tried on a "professionel" level.
I'm not interested in professional levels or if it's been done before. I
We are testing media ;-)
Im intrested in this concept, but I have never used midi before...is there
any progs you suggest?
who've never used sequencers it's pretty easy, if you don't have a midi
keyboard you can add a track just using the mouse or some packages allow
you
to "play" your computer keyboard.
also, i think the violin smashing piece is as wonderful
today as when originally performed.
I saw this first in L'age d'or by Bunuel. Hendrix, the Who come to mind.
It's just a very good, free, well done service.. you should take a look at what they
offer
for artists, next time you're there.
Ok ;-)
- Official mp3.com spokesman of fluxlist
who did we "cleanse out"?
Some germans. Or austrians. How many germans were living in Prague before
? Not to mention the many villages. Kafka wrote in german, for
exemple.
But this is history.
Heiko
If anyone else on the list has ever built their own instruments I'd like to
hear about it.
look for pythagor.zip. It uses the lowli PC speaker and produces sine
waves. Sphere music, random spheres. The days of my T 1000 SE laptop...
CSound is still too cryptic / weird for the non-nerd.. tracking is less robotic..
having
real equipment is best
I dont know if I am a nerd. Rubo (of midi2cs fame) was very helpfull. I
have two batchfiles, one is realy important, that calls csound. All I have
to do is, after editing midi2cs's
primate_
nick
Rafael
including myself that's 4, anyone else. Heiko? Eryk? I'm not sure if you're
Ok, and you can send me whatever you want, I run it through midi2cs.
And yes, the mp3.com site could need some deep linking. Seems/looks, as if
they want email adresses in the first place.
hehehe what is going to make this fun is I dont have speakers on this
computerso I will make tracks here and transfer them too one of the
other 5 computers.or I could just make em there...maybe both! Gadzooks
what an idear!
There is no PC without a speaker, ever tried the windows
cords...garbage...' The group declared: 'The First cultural task is
publicly to expose and fight the domination of white, european - U.S. Ruling
class Art!"
Right on!!!
Last time I saw him, playing his electronic music, it had more power than
the stones (if they have any...for you).
Maybe its of interest to somebody, who knows...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Rafael Custodio de Lima wrote:
Someone mentioned that Stockhausen disliked jazz for being a low-class
music. I think one of the reasons he's so original(e) is the fact he was
born poor and got in touch with the so-called
Hmm, todays electronic archives and how they are structured.
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Ken Friedman wrote:
Quick answers to Rod's questions:
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portions of my anatomy and I emailed them to a bakery, who
sprayed lemon vanilla cookies with ink jet food coloring,
creating photographic images on the icing, which were then
Do they have an URL ?
Heiko
Ann:
I haven't noticed any big blocks of code at all, I just get words. Is there
some difference in our services? Or do I just not notice much?
Your email programm hides it, but if you would print things
Hi,
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, allen bukoff wrote:
I have a question: Can I find Higgin's essay on Intermedia online?
Intermedia is a term from the 60s, cologne, heidelberg, so mmmaybe its in
Pop architecture offline.
If somebody knows it better, please do.
Multimedia, mixedmedia. Mixedmedia.
In
I confess: I've been a usual fan of this magazine... maybe I just liked
the concept of slickeroo artists' editions financing the publication of a
slick magazine/book-really for everyone-else... (?)
I have a copy somewhere etc and I am not too shure that its exceptional.
But the idea of
And Amazon searches for used books, but they search on Bibliofind
Advanced Book Exchange (ABE), and then raise the price.
I would recomend to think about boycotting amazon, until they come
to a final solution for their "one click shopping" patent, anyway.
People say that they are allways
Interesting question.
On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, scott rigby wrote:
Fluxus work demonstrably influenced many of the
conceptual, performance, and video artists of the 1960s and 1970s. For
many
complex reasons, those influences were rarely acknowledged.
I'm half joking but I am curious why the
Having read it, I think this is funny:
one would purposely wish to overlook prior work that provided part of the
foundation of intellectual development on which one built one's own work.
Rather, the richer and more comprehensive one can make one's foundation,
the stronger one's own
Wow! Nice piece! Yeah, that's what he did!
Thirty minute film haiku for Nam June Paik
Blank transparent film
Zenlike in simplicity
Fluxlike pointedly
Is this anyhow different from the traditions in france ?
it is art as Satie lived it and made it is not separate from life
(nor is dishwashing when it is done in this spirit). ..."
I once saw such a "Musique d'ameublemont" with the master. But I think he
isnt closer connected to Satie than anybody else, Lemaitre etc...
H.
that Cage was the great rediscoverer of Satie as soon as in the thirties
Americans. How was it possible that he got forgotten und how unique was
he ?
I think there is a permanent stream, how would you see the french
filmmakers ?
Speaking of moviesand zen
spokesman calling himself Ray
Call me Ray, a raytracing mailbox in Chicago.
RTMark, an online activist group whose Web site was chosen to
Congratulation.
spokesman calling himself Ray
Thomas (the group's five members
are anonymous) said opening its
part of the exhibit to the public
would
I always think that Fluxus is like a joke
in that you "get it" or you don't.
Maybe fluxus can too easily become a lie (sp ?).
any meaningful sense as that cranky old fart, George Maciunas.
Thanks a lot ;-)
art books and "find" artists whose work interests me. Flux dada etc. was never
taught me. All to fill in the big gaps.
Fluxus and Dada was to new for serious discussion in school. But it was no
problem, to study the things directly. Max Ernst was born some miles from
here, in Bruehl. And there
Population explosion -- the sudden flood of "new entrants" into a cultural
field is major explanation of why cultural fields change, according to
sociologists of art like Pierre Bourdieu (who's work I greatly admire).
And why is french art today so boring ? The pill ???
No, I dont believe
How would you call the time between the cage class and this armystyle
artmovement with general, officers and soldiers, with Al
Hanson dissenting, "Prefluxus" ?
any meaningful sense as thatcranky old fart, George Maciunas.
Thanks a lot ;-)
As a joke Dada is definitely NOT overrated. Some Dada on the other hand was dead
serious,
like Berlin Dada.
Jokes dont have to be funny. Its rather easy to sit in 2000 and
finally read Hugo Ball's Flight Out of Time: A Dada Diary. I was
surprised at the depth of sadness directly involved in the movement over
I allways think to old style living rooms, from the time before WWi,
compared to what Bauhaus etc did. It wasnt changing furnitures alone.
Greetings, H.
Rosalie Heiko
If you read Flight Out of Time you'll see the deeply spiritual feeling out of which
Dada in Zurich (at least Hugo Ball and Emmy Hennings) grew. And when it was over,
Ball
being very religious lost his mind.
I suggested reading Giedeon. Author of "Mechanisation takes
all the talk about rabbits: what is the actual status of the fluxbox
project ? Wouldnt easter be a nice time ?
H.
Al was a great man and a good friend, but I'd no more call him the only
dissenter from this imaginary army than I'd call George a cranky old fart.
Thanks.
Heiko
Its very egalitarian nature told against it within the context of New
York's artworld, which tended to view the Festivals as a "fringe" event,
We never had an "Avant-Garde" Festival here, but there was the "christmas
artfair" of the local "Kunstverein" (art club), more or less at the same
I tried to find "Mechanisation takes command" on the web. Very little by
Giedeon in
Sorry, he is spelled GIDEON, Siegfried Gideon, I found one link with altavista
to a swiss site, he was architect...
I liked the action of Beate, who , but M. Serges idea of a
demonstration against the Vienna Philharmonics in Paris...
He asked them to criticize Mr Haider etc and they refused.
Who are the brainpolice
Everything behind the rhine is sibiria and a book with a swastica will become
a
Cinema.
Some girls and boys and digits.
Armthick cables...going from one house to the other.
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Imagine a world with no governments, who is snooping then ?
eSNOOP (tm) ??
The money...privacy auctions might do the trick.
What is this good for ? To raise consciousness, that it isnt the copyright
but the droit d'auteur ? ;-)
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Obscurity as programm, Sun Ra, Graham Bond, does anybody remember HIM ?
was always going to write his definitive book about how Duchamp, Beuys and
others were all Kabbala masters: sort of a Paul Lafoley/R.A. Wilson take on
He is not the only one.
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Oh yes, I remember Sun Ra. A friend of my past used to sing in his Solar Arkestra
sometimes. He was very far out, too far for most jazz musicians of his day. He
Cool. I remember lying once on the bed and hearing some voyage to mars.
I think I have an LP, that was once too long in the sun,
Of course I've heard of Sun Ra and his Cosmic Arkestra but never Graham Bond. Who
Father of "Graham Bond Organisation". I dont remember all the groups and
people he played with. A certain strangeness. He didnt make so much
ado about space etc like Sun Ra, but he lived in a different world,
I mean the time between the Cage class, when many people dropped out, more
or less, and the coining of the label.
Economy of information.
Economy of SOHO.
The revolution eats its children.
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This is
Alan Bowman who sent the 18 venice carnevale images in one go.so who
Cries for an animated gif.
with 16 or so, is Julie Driscoll. And there is Laura Nyro. In the USA.
I've heard of Laura Nyro of course but never actually heard her music.
Its a pity.
I'm not familiar with at all, probably because she's European. You mean she had her
greatest hits when she was 16?
Yep, together
I met him in 1974 when I was working on the Virgin label and they signed
him. I was shocked. He seemed like a burned out shell of a man, going
I met somebody of the very posh gallery that marketed his artworks, the
guy who worked with Mary Boone, and he said, yes, long ago, he had made
music.
college. Anyone ever heard of Rhashan Roland Kirk? I always liked his music a
Didnt he invent this:
(circular breathing), turning in a circle on one leg.
(Without the leg.)
H.
I didnt see this html stuff at the end of the message, I though I had cut
it away.
Just to show you my context, slightly edited, no d-words etc:
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I just received a telephone call from somebody and Time-Warner, on the
Warner side. Seems the want to do a show about a web site that promotes
... , which turns out to be ...org.
The plan to
The nature of e-mail is one of high ambiguity and that is worth remembering
Media in general. But I suspect easter bunnies are less sensitiv. Or what
?
Has Fluxus ever been so harmless ?
No.
The Graham Bond Organisation and Julie Driscoll were both well known in
Britain in the seventies
(or possibly late sixties - my memory is hazy there)
I wouldn't have thought they had much to do with fluxicity or the art scene
Graham Bond was a strange person. Clean art for clean museums. How
"Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my
opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout
Mask or Doc at the Radar Station.
I have Mirror Man. 1965 ? More on pop music: has anybody "U" of Incredible
String Band ?
Yeah, have heard of Tony Williams too, the drummer. I never
Fred Frith etc, music with shaver. Its difficult to say that Lifetime is
fusion. He was the drummer of...and its a trio, John Mc, and Organ. What
later became "fusion" wasnt yet developed. The other tape I heard those
day was the
The aborigines have done circular breathing since forever, that's how a
didgeridoo is played.
Maybe he used it exessively, in jAZZ, dont know.
Is it possible not to have a context? I don't see how it could be.
"Contextualization" would only be making the context explicit. In this case,
analyzing and stating motives.
Well, that is what "contextualisation" meens. But I think, we must be
grown up enough, to take things for themselves.
I realy would like to know more about this. I have some Kippenberger at
www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/ . Different images from the late documenta
server, topic underground.
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Potter, Nick (Worley - Spotswood) wrote:
I love that Doobee-Doo song.
Cant you make a short mp3 file out
"Contextualization" would only be making the context explicit. In this case,
analyzing and stating motives.
Well, that is what "contextualisation" meens. But I think, we must be
Lets take a public monument, you cant say it means this and that, first,
its just there, and then public
Hi,
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Reed Altemus wrote:
I agree with Heiko. Fluxlist is becoming a forum for discographers and
Thanks. But I would never say this:
music collectors. Why doesn't someone just start a new list because this
is getting ridiculously off topic. Anybody besides Allan doing
This starts to become an interesting discussion:
Does any artist make the context explicit? Well, yes ... Haacke, for one.
Buren has criticized Duchamp precisely on this point.
Could you explain this a little bit more ? Haacke is, IMHO, strong because
he doesnt need a context for his works.
Do readers of Int-Law have any sources of information or comments which
would be helpful to the Humanoids 2000 Conference? I honestly think the
implications of Engelberger (dubbed one of the "fathers of modern
robotics") putting a Humanoid on the mass market, in the next five years,
at the price
My tape boxes, unheard tapes (cassettes). Labeled and unlabeled music etc.
To confront Martin Luther King with Malcolm X.
I accidently deleted once Daniel Cohn Bendit in Paris. How he did "hostis"
calls. A pity.
(various styles). I'd love to trade discs with other
composers/improvisers...
You did construct your theremin by yourself ? Could you describe this
machine ?
Well, if you can make copies onto cassette, still more popular:
Heiko Recktenwald
Kurfuerstenstrasse 35
53115 Bonn, Alemania.
Thanks,
H.
I accidently deleted once Daniel Cohn Bendit in Paris. How he did "hostis"
calls. A pity.
How to say it in english ? Those "hostis declarations", "bellum justum"
against De Gaulle, who fled the country...
A collection of "hostis declarations", like "Haider is a pig."
we must be in book buying mode. i just bought a copy of 'joseph beuys
in america' for 12 dollars. i really would like a copy of 'we go this
This coyote thing ?
I wish I knew more of Beuys and the german green party (now in
governement, head of our "state department" is green.)
One of the two main centers of resistance, underground, the other an
airport in Tokyo, in the seventies. Plogoff in bretany in france, one of
the most beautifull parts. Lots of german ww ii architecture, monstrous ?
There are some new plans for nuclear energy architecture there. The radio.
can anyone recommend a source that proposes anything like a "neutral"
(meta-) history
of how Fluxus has been seen and evaluated as a movement, but also as an
artistic "product"
or "stock" over the years? what I am most interested in is studying the
process of image creation for Fluxus, and
until all gets sorted out:
This material should be on CD somewhere collected anyway, for later
researchthings with whatever software. Ken is doing archiving anyway ?
and a large collage
by Richard Hamilton (He of the Duchamp Large Glass)
He is on the cover of POP Architecture and wrote something on Higgins etc
in something on Spoerri reedited, some time ago in the spectator.
Sorrissime for double posting but this looks interesting. Strongest Nam
June Pail thing I ever saw was Vietnam behind a glass with fishes. Voila:
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Hi,
Holga's, like many other toy cameras, have both
plastic bodies and plastic lenses. The plastic lenses
Ah...and in b and w this would be ??
Nice for the industry:
tight, causing unpredictable fogging. Holga's are
also medium format cameras, they take 120 film as
opposed to 35mm.
Reading old emails, some had disappeared somewhere on this unix thing:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote:
Trout Mask Replica
Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)
Wow... Those are the two Captain Beefheart CDs in my collection.
I've thought about getting "Safe As Milk" for several
Joachim Kuehn, the GREAT piano player, who is Keith Jarrett ?, once played
it on the radio. Remember very tricky rythms.
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Roger Stevens wrote:
Lick My Decals Off is a good one
JK was live MUCH better than in the studio etc. He knew "the real stuff",
but seldom played it.
To my knowledge Ginsberg was never part of Fluxus the only beat who was
So was Nauman, so what ?
To my knowledge Ginsberg was never part of Fluxus the only beat who was
So was Nauman, so what ?
From this Al Hanson catalogue, I got the impression that the most
important time of "fluxus" was the time before the coining of the label,
immediately after the Cage class. So who was a "fluxus"
familiar with the pop artist Peter Blake...worth a look...I never used to be
He is more a designer, isnt he ?
twenty - fourth of a second movie tape (movie tape is larger and easier to
splice)- and rearranged the order of the 24th second intervals of recorded
speech. The original words are quite unintelligible but new words emerge.
The voice is still there and you can immediately recognise the speaker.
The RM then is an artifact designed to limit and stultify on a
mass scale. In order to have this effect it must be widely
implanted. This can readily be done with modern electronic equipment and
techniques
Did cut this piece into 3 parts, cant give it away via http in the moment,
its splitted -l 510 or something like that, hope, it doesnt crash your
mailboxes, voila, part 1:
THE ELECTRONIC REVOLUTION
BY
WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS
Nice quote, but arent both ways ok ? Whats wrong with Lichtenstein ? Those
were the 60s..
On Tue, 20 Apr 2094, ddyment wrote:
as always, george brecht puts it most beautifully and succinctly:
"i prefer, for example, to cut a little panel out of a comic strip and to
just have that,
me. Quite bland. I think Rimbaud's life was more interesting than his
art. That's my
Matineee d'ivresse ?
Yes, but did you think that when you were a teenager?
Exactly, he was a poetic prodigy. I really can't put my finger on it but the
poems just didn't reach me on an
then we'll go for it, as that old Fluxus devil Rimbaud used to say
Well, isnt it all about lifestyle, more or less ?
We could start a thread about R.D.Laings conversations with children, to
switch to our century.
"L'Elegance, la science, la violence", had it as a motto on my first
to have much more power or maybe just a different power. Maybe one is more
romantic/idealistic at that stage of life...
I dont understand what you mean by that or why you write this. A text is a
text is a text. Do you think reading is just for teenagers ? Certainly
not.
Somebody was lucky enough to have lunch with Cage, who visited her Prof.
And she said he was absolutely uninteresting and boring, can you imagine
that ?
Some people's ideas of boring are boring.
Hope so. Remember listening to Thoreau reading all night long, which was
kind of "boring". Maybe you have to have some "willingness to like", you
must bring with you some sympathy etc for the man, his work. Or it will
not work. Maybe this is a general
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