On Wed, August 15, 2012 04:07, waldo kitty wrote:
On 8/14/2012 09:47, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, Tomas Hajny wrote:
Actually, the file is more a configuration file for fpdoc than its
documentation, isn't it? From this point of view, shouldn't
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 03:52:00 schrieb waldo kitty:
On 8/14/2012 03:11, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Am Tuesday 14 August 2012 03:28:26 schrieb waldo kitty:
i've been following this whole thread with interest... one thing that
i'm still not clear about, though, is why is this important? is
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 04:05:56 schrieb Martin:
On 15/08/2012 02:52, waldo kitty wrote:
this would be no different than the program doing
writeln(snippet1);
.i must still be missing something :?
If I understood him correct:
It is not
writeln(snippet1);
it is
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 09:33:37 schrieb Rainer Stratmann:
What means POV?
Ok. Point of view I assume.
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On 15/08/2012 08:33, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 03:52:00 schrieb waldo kitty:
the loading code simply
chooses the proper po file and then loads the strings into an array or
whatever using the same variables which are used everywhere no matter what
language their
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 10:20:34 schrieb Reinier Olislagers:
On 15-8-2012 10:08, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Yes, that is possible as I understand it so far.
I did not know (dx)gettext before so replication is may not the right
word.
Yes, it is. Replication is doing the same thing twice,
On 14-8-2012 20:50, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 14-8-2012 16:03,
michael.vancanneyt-0is9kj9sb0a-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org
wrote:
Thinking about it, I will change fpdoc so it does not need the file
installed, but generates it if
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:20:34AM +0200, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 15-8-2012 10:08, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 09:59:00 schrieb Lukasz Sokol:
On 15/08/2012 08:33, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 03:52:00 schrieb waldo kitty:
the loading
And a
disadvantage is may the longer time to find a solution.
Thats not the only disadvantage. Reinventing the wheel usually means
you get something less correct and less researched. Its simple, 1000
eyes looking for a bug into a standard library will spot much more
problems than your lone eye
Hi,
This issue has come up before in a fcl-db discussion regarding the
Firebird Database, where the libfbclient.so was missing from many
Linux distros (eg: Ubuntu 10.04), but a libfbclient.so.2.0 was
available instead. FCL-DB only checks for the unversioned shared
libraries, thus your application
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 12:29:23 schrieb Jorge Aldo G. de F. Junior:
And a
disadvantage is may the longer time to find a solution.
Thats not the only disadvantage. Reinventing the wheel usually means
you get something less correct and less researched. Its simple, 1000
eyes looking for a
But creating correct symlinks IS one of the tasks of a system
administrator... His up to know the distro he is using and the
software he wants to install.
I bet a in the field sysadmin will be much more flexible than a
hardcoded implementation that would need to take zillions of obscure
distros
On 15 Aug 2012, at 12:43, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
This issue has come up before in a fcl-db discussion regarding the
Firebird Database, where the libfbclient.so was missing from many
Linux distros (eg: Ubuntu 10.04), but a libfbclient.so.2.0 was
available instead. FCL-DB only checks for the
I've been working on documenting the Zipper/Unzipper classes:
packages\paszlib\src\zipper.pp
Now looking at the protected procedure TZipper/TUnzipper.DoEndOfFile
They apparently update compression percentage statistics and call a user
defined callback (if any, defined in OnEndOfFile)
I don't
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Hi,
This issue has come up before in a fcl-db discussion regarding the
Firebird Database, where the libfbclient.so was missing from many
Linux distros (eg: Ubuntu 10.04), but a libfbclient.so.2.0 was
available instead. FCL-DB only checks for the unversioned shared
Hi,
On 15 August 2012 12:10, Jonas Maebe jonas.ma...@elis.ugent.be wrote:
The official way to get the unversioned symbolic links is to install the -dev
or
-devel package for that library. Of course, you're not supposed to require
end-users to do that.
Yes, I know that bit, but even as a
Jonas Maebe wrote:
In both these cases, I manually created unversioned symlinks to those
libraries, and that got my applications working again. This is not
ideal, but I don't know how else to handle this.
The official way to get the unversioned symbolic links is to install the -dev
or -devel
In our previous episode, Rainer Stratmann said:
You already have a very good grasp of the issues involved as you were
writing your own solution. You could probably improve dxgettext with
some things and get that in the main development tree, thereby improving
things for others.
As I
Hi,
On 15 August 2012 12:27, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-pas...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Quite a long way from ideal, since it implies that an administrator has to
be involved even if the program is only sitting in an unprivileged user's
home directory (or is a symlink in ~ good enough?).
On 15/08/12 12:37, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Jonas Maebe wrote:
In both these cases, I manually created unversioned symlinks to those
libraries, and that got my applications working again. This is not
ideal, but I don't know how else to handle this.
The official way to get the unversioned
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
I've been working on documenting the Zipper/Unzipper classes:
packages\paszlib\src\zipper.pp
Now looking at the protected procedure TZipper/TUnzipper.DoEndOfFile
They apparently update compression percentage statistics and call a user
defined
On 15 Aug 2012, at 13:32, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 15 August 2012 12:10, Jonas Maebe jonas.ma...@elis.ugent.be wrote:
The official way to get the unversioned symbolic links is to install the
-dev or
-devel package for that library. Of course, you're not supposed to require
end-users
On 15-8-2012 13:48, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
I've been working on documenting the Zipper/Unzipper classes:
packages\paszlib\src\zipper.pp
Now looking at the protected procedure TZipper/TUnzipper.DoEndOfFile
They apparently update compression
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 13:39:11 schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Rainer Stratmann said:
You already have a very good grasp of the issues involved as you were
writing your own solution. You could probably improve dxgettext with
some things and get that in the main
Am 15.08.2012 10:48 schrieb Rainer Stratmann rainerstratm...@t-online.de
:
While this may all be very well known to you, I would ask you to step
back and consider it: having a detached look at it may lead to a better
choice.
For me it would be interesting to know how dxgettext gets the
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 15-8-2012 13:48, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
I've been working on documenting the Zipper/Unzipper classes:
packages\paszlib\src\zipper.pp
Now looking at the protected procedure
On 15-8-2012 13:49, Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 15 Aug 2012, at 13:32, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 15 August 2012 12:10, Jonas Maebe
jonas.maebe-3rqwkoel1alvsukgzv2...@public.gmane.org wrote:
The official way to get the unversioned symbolic links is to install the
-dev or
-devel package for
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 14:13:41 schrieb Sven Barth:
Am 15.08.2012 10:48 schrieb Rainer Stratmann rainerstratm...@t-online.de
While this may all be very well known to you, I would ask you to step
back and consider it: having a detached look at it may lead to a better
choice.
For
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 14:49:04 schrieb Rainer Stratmann:
I would call this function rs( s : pchar ) because it has to be short.
if there is a rs() in the program the compiler stores the caller adress
(unique handle) and the pointer to the pchar in a list.
If the pointer to pchar is
Hi,
On 15 August 2012 12:49, Jonas Maebe jonas.ma...@elis.ugent.be wrote:
You said that you manually created the symbolic link. I simply explained that
you should
never do that, and instead install the development packages because they will
do that
(correctly) for you.
So my applications
On 15/08/2012 13:55, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 14:49:04 schrieb Rainer Stratmann:
I would call this function rs( s : pchar ) because it has to be short.
if there is a rs() in the program the compiler stores the caller adress
(unique handle) and the pointer to the
On 15/08/12 13:43, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I do agree with Graeme's position though: a -dev is described as
containing files for developers, and it should not be necessary for a
non-developer user to start encumbering his system with .h files etc.
What's more, part of the reason that I've
On 15 Aug 2012, at 15:14, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 15 August 2012 12:49, Jonas Maebe jonas.ma...@elis.ugent.be wrote:
You said that you manually created the symbolic link. I simply explained
that you should
never do that, and instead install the development packages because they
will
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
In both these cases, I manually created unversioned symlinks to those
libraries, and that got my applications working again. This is not
ideal, but I don't know how else to handle this.
Does any body know what is the most correct way of
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
You said that you manually created the symbolic link. I simply explained
that you should
never do that, and instead install the development packages because they
will do that
(correctly) for you.
So my applications that I deploy to
Hi,
On 15 August 2012 14:39, Jonas Maebe jonas.ma...@elis.ugent.be wrote:
FCL-DB uses dynamic linking by default, and looks for the unversioned
shared library. So what specific Firebird version is the FCL-DB coded
too?
I have no idea, which is why I also said in my first reply:
Umm, so
On 15-8-2012 15:59, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Hi,
On 15 August 2012 14:39, Jonas Maebe
jonas.maebe-3rqwkoel1alvsukgzv2...@public.gmane.org wrote:
FCL-DB uses dynamic linking by default, and looks for the unversioned
shared library. So what specific Firebird version is the FCL-DB coded
too?
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 15:20:21 schrieb Lukasz Sokol:
On 15/08/2012 13:55, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 14:49:04 schrieb Rainer Stratmann:
I would call this function rs( s : pchar ) because it has to be short.
if there is a rs() in the program the compiler stores
In our previous episode, Rainer Stratmann said:
Limitations, not problems. Compared to the Delphi internal translation
systems. Yours has the same, by design.
Which limitations?
see below
If your source (main) language has a word with two meanings, how will you
translate to a language
On 15-8-2012 16:19, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 15-8-2012 15:59, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Umm, so ideally the ibconnection.pp unit should really be split into
various units with version numbers in their names. That way we will
know to which
On 15/08/2012 15:17, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Then the
mov pcharconst , EAX
command also had changed.
At every start of the program I see if it works here.
If it works here ist works outside also.
For example if you add/remove units and rebuild.
All pchar adresses are searched at
Hi,
On 15 August 2012 15:32, Reinier Olislagers reinierolislag...@gmail.com wrote:
And you can use the (Firebird/Interbase Services IIRC) API to get the
server version. I seem to remember Ludo's recent addition to FPC has
this functionality.
Yes, but you are jumping the gun here! My problem
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 16:45:03 schrieb Lukasz Sokol:
For example if FPC internals decide to add or remove some padding in
front of the constants.
Very unlikely.
For which reason should there be padding in front?
For the reason that they always say not to rely on 'internal
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Hi,
On 15 August 2012 15:32, Reinier Olislagers reinierolislag...@gmail.com wrote:
And you can use the (Firebird/Interbase Services IIRC) API to get the
server version. I seem to remember Ludo's recent addition to FPC has
this functionality.
On 15 Aug 2012, at 17:19, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
So why does FCL-DB look at the unversioned *.so by default? Wouldn't
it make more sense to change FCL-DB to look for libfbclient.so.2
instead? 2 being the latest major version of Firebird DB,
So why does FCL-DB look at the unversioned *.so by default?
Wouldn't it make more sense to change FCL-DB to look for
libfbclient.so.2 instead? 2 being the latest major version of
Firebird DB, and that is also the latest version that
ibconnection.pp was written for.
Completely agreed.
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Ludo Brands wrote:
So why does FCL-DB look at the unversioned *.so by default?
Wouldn't it make more sense to change FCL-DB to look for
libfbclient.so.2 instead? 2 being the latest major version of
Firebird DB, and that is also the latest version that
ibconnection.pp was
On 15-8-2012 14:24, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 15-8-2012 13:48, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
I've been working on documenting the Zipper/Unzipper classes:
packages\paszlib\src\zipper.pp
Now
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Ludo Brands wrote:
No, this would suggest that you can set a different value for
each instance.
I don't see what is wrong with that. You get a nice exception when you try
to load a different library than the one that is alread loaded. But if I
want to make an app that
On 15 August 2012 17:42, Ludo Brands ludo.bra...@free.fr wrote:
You can't be connected the 2 at the
same time but that is a run-time issue, not design time.
I'm not sure I'm following. Do you mean SqlDB can't connect to two
different database at the same time? I can't think that is true, so
In our previous episode, Rainer Stratmann said:
In my case it can also be possible that there are not all words
translated yet. Then the original text is shown or englich one. The
translation can be made later. That is (also) an advantage.
No it can't, since if two the same texts
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
Hi,
On 15 August 2012 15:32, Reinier Olislagers reinierolislag...@gmail.com
wrote:
And you can use the (Firebird/Interbase Services IIRC) API to get the
server version. I seem to remember Ludo's recent addition to FPC has
this
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I don't see what is wrong with that. You get a nice
exception when you
try to load a different library than the one that is
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
I don't see what is wrong with that. You get a nice exception when you try
to load a different library than the one that is alread loaded. But if I
want to make an app that works with embedded firebird or firebird client
(user selectable
You can't be connected the 2 at the
same time but that is a run-time issue, not design time.
I'm not sure I'm following. Do you mean SqlDB can't connect
to two different database at the same time? I can't think
that is true, so could you explain this limitation you are
talking about.
On 8/15/2012 03:33, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Am Wednesday 15 August 2012 03:52:00 schrieb waldo kitty:
On 8/14/2012 03:11, Rainer Stratmann wrote:
Am Tuesday 14 August 2012 03:28:26 schrieb waldo kitty:
i've been following this whole thread with interest... one thing that
i'm still not clear
Am 15.08.2012 17:02 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com:
I had a quick look to see what other (non FPC based) application do.
FlameRobin has a dependency on libfbclient.so.2 (thus versioned .so
library). That's why it works without having to install the -devel
package.
Did you
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
I had a quick look to see what other (non FPC based) application do.
FlameRobin has a dependency on libfbclient.so.2 (thus versioned .so
library). That's why it works without having to install the -devel
package.
Is that a cross-distro binary?
Hi,
On 15 August 2012 19:02, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote:
Did you try ibase60dyn.initializeibase60('whatever.so'); in your dpr ?
I'm sure I can add that, and I'm sure it will work for my Firebird
connections, but other libraries I use don't have such functionality.
I'm trying to
On 15 August 2012 21:53, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote:
Did you look at the source/makefile or the binary? If the latter then this
is exactly what FPC (or more precisely the linker) does when you statically
link to a shared library
Yes, FlameRobin was statically linked. But
On 15 August 2012 22:10, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote:
Blend perfectly with the distro they are build for, but if changes occur
chances on recovery are slim.
Be more specific, what changes?
Dynamic linking and Static linking both have there pros and cons. Most
seem to prefer
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
I'm sure I can add that, and I'm sure it will work for my Firebird
connections, but other libraries I use don't have such functionality.
I'm trying to get to the bottom of
* Why must developers jump through hoops to get there DB apps to
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
Blend perfectly with the distro they are build for, but if changes occur
chances on recovery are slim.
Be more specific, what changes?
Change in naming, (either root (gds-fbclient) or version numbers) non
standard directories (the
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