Re: [Freedos-kernel] kernel 2038

2009-05-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jeremy, Kernel 2038 tagged and available at http://www.fdos.org/kernel/latest/ Someone with access, please upload to ibiblio and release on SF. Please update history.txt - it represents the state of 13 months ago... While you are at it, could you update my email to mceric at

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Christian Masloch
Actually MSDOS 7.10 already uses the SFT in a different way, but undocumented by RBIL, for both FAT16 and FAT32: 0BhWORDcontains the high word of the relative cluster number at offset 19h 2BhDWORD contains the starting cluster number 35hDWORD contains the current cluster

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Alain M.
Hi Christian, I think that you are not being polite. You are new here and you start by wanting to change everything. Why don't you start by fixing a few bugs? Alain Christian Masloch escreveu: Which app crashes from running on a FAT+ kernel? (Presuming you don't even have that large

[Freedos-kernel] ASUS problem

2009-05-18 Thread Alain M.
Hi all, I use regularly FreeDOS in users instalations with brand new, superfast motherboards. The aplication is heavy Database usage and FreeDOS is prerforming better then MS-DOS... There is a systematic problem only with ASUS motherboards (in the last 3 years aprox.) System crashes, files

Re: [Freedos-kernel] ASUS problem

2009-05-18 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Alain M. schreef: I use regularly FreeDOS in users instalations with brand new, superfast motherboards. The aplication is heavy Database usage and FreeDOS is prerforming better then MS-DOS... Great. Is switching kernel the only thing that's relevant or did you switch any other components

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Bart Oldeman
2009/5/18 Christian Masloch c...@bttr-software.de: Good work! I verified RBIL's statement that the word at 0Bh was not used by checking it for files located on a FAT12 and FAT32 drives. It contained a seemingly random value which lead me to the wrong assumption MS-DOS just didn't properly

[Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2038 and plans

2009-05-18 Thread ibid_ag
Hello all, 1. I have checked out the latest build (kernel 2038-32). It works fine with GEM/XM. (So did the 2nd RC.) 2. Congratulations on a great kernel/OS 3. PLEASE stop the flame wars--the last few digests have looked rather (?!) 4. I would rather see more of the features from 2037 in stable

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Riebisch
Eric Auer wrote: Once 2038 is released I plan to continue reviewing any outstanding patches and apply as appropriate. My top priority is bug fixes - repeatable bugs will probably be fixed first :-) In no particular True. One bug: MSCLIENT, but only in BASIC (without REDIR loaded)

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Tom Ehlert
It won't help FreeDOS of course because it still uses fnodes for these things instead of SFTs. Those are ancient relics that should be done away with. There is no need for them anymore. I'd like to put that high on the priority list for kernel development. in theory you are right. in

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Christian Masloch
Hi Eric, Pat: It won't help FreeDOS of course because it still uses fnodes for these things instead of SFTs. Those are ancient relics that should be done away with. There is no need for them anymore. I'd like to put that high on the priority list for kernel development. Just to remind

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Bart Oldeman
2009/5/18 Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de: It won't help FreeDOS of course because it still uses fnodes for these things instead of SFTs. Those are ancient relics that should be done away with.  There is no need for them anymore.  I'd like to put that high on the priority list for kernel

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Bart, [fnodes] are ancient relics that should be done away with. There is no need for them anymore. I'd like to put that high on the priority list for kernel development. in theory you are right. in praxis fnodes are everywhere throughout the file system (as you probably know), and

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote: It won't help FreeDOS of course because it still uses fnodes for these things instead of SFTs. Those are ancient relics that should be done away with.  There is no need for them anymore.  I'd like to put that high on the

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Bart Oldeman
2009/5/18 Christian Masloch c...@bttr-software.de: However I don't think I'll copy this strange behaviour (at least not by default). As reported by Eric, it breaks programs like JAM (the point is, even on FAT12 and FAT16 disks) which look into the SFT to get the first cluster of a (FAT12 or

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Christian Masloch
It's all undocumented, of course :) You're distinguishing undocumented undocumented from documented undocumented... Nah, here I rather distinguished undocumented changes from MS-DOS 6 to 7 and the documented ones, which were like the config.txt user documentation describing some of the

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Christian, I don't want to change everything. The only extension I asked for was to support FAT+, of course in the stable (or trunk) kernel branch because unstable isn't developed by anyone currently and developing it would proceed the forking of these branches. Still no reason to

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Eric Auer schreef: Still no reason to add experimental things to stable now :-) The solution is easy: Add it to the UNSTABLE fork and, while doing so, show that there are people who are interested in new experiments with DOS! This will also draw more attention to this branch and make it more

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Pat Villani
If half as much effort went into the code that has gone into this thread, we'd have rewritten the kernel several times over. Since I'm wrong about the kernel(?), let me put it to you this way. I want to put out a new release, FreeDOS v1.1 and get a plan in place. In 50 words or less, who is

[Freedos-kernel] Which kernel

2009-05-18 Thread ibid_ag
Hi Pat, I would say 2038 as default, 2037 (including winkrnl) as option--unless 2039 shows up first (doesn't look likely). If 2039 gets something worthwhile, 1.11 is an option. Thank you, ibidem -- Crystal Reports -

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Hello again

2009-05-18 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Pat Villani p...@monmouth.com wrote: If half as much effort went into the code that has gone into this thread, we'd have rewritten the kernel several times over. Since I'm wrong about the kernel(?), let me put it to you this way.  I wrong? want to put out a

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Which kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Pat Villani
This sounds liuke a good strategy. Pat On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:07 PM, ibid...@lavabit.com wrote: Hi Pat, I would say 2038 as default, 2037 (including winkrnl) as option--unless 2039 shows up first (doesn't look likely).  If 2039 gets something worthwhile, 1.11 is an option. Thank you,