Re: [Freedos-user] Web forum

On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 17:30, Norby Droid via Freedos-user wrote: > > Would there be any interest in a web forum for FreeDos? Please no. :-( -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~

Re: [Freedos-user] the msdos 4.0 sources has some multitasking code

ver. Then I'd believe it a little tiny bit that MS means it when it says it loves FOSS. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven : (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czec

Re: [Freedos-user] the msdos 4.0 sources has some multitasking code

*If* the code was verified as unmodified MS code and _then_ *if* MS wrent to the extra work of removing all 3rd party code or obtaining clearance, it would then _and only then_ be able to relicence the resulting code. MS cannot relicense code it did not write. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://abo

Re: [Freedos-user] the msdos 4.0 sources has some multitasking code

et rights from them. Much too much work! -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven oM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 70

Re: [Freedos-user] the msdos 4.0 sources has some multitasking code

e. Microsoft is not willing to go to even the minimal effort of searching its own archives for the other versions to release them, but if someone else finds the code, it will permit the release under a permissive licence. It's not much but it's better than nothing. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: http

Re: [Freedos-user] documentation update

linux/comments/hqm7z2/xdeb_a_simple_utility_to_convert_debian_packages/ -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal

Re: [Freedos-user] cannot boot installation media

it can use FAT16 or FAT32, which to boot must be in a primary partition on the 1st drive. Yes, Linux will detect it if `os-prober` is enabled in GRUB. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven

Re: [Freedos-user] Way or utility in Freedos to have two applications running

On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 at 02:46, Jose Senna via Freedos-user wrote: > Would someone please provide a copy of this article in a platform > that is not at odds with Brazilian courts ? Just use archive.org or archive.ph or archive.is or any one of lots of others. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile:

Re: [Freedos-user] Way or utility in Freedos to have two applications running

not terribly stable in my testing. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420)

Re: [Freedos-user] Ré : Way or utility in Freedos to have two applications running

ls and they emit total nonsense -- such as this. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+

Re: [Freedos-user] Way or utility in Freedos to have two applications running

ch as MultiUser DOS. Some are even FOSS: https://github.com/roelandjansen/pcmos386v501 There are multitasking layers you can load on top of DOS, such as DESQview. But no, unaided DOS can't do that. In the 21st century DOS is more or less "the old PC OS that did not multitask." This is its

Re: [Freedos-user] Adapter PCMCIA to CF

ds plausible. The latter scenario is what I know, which is why I earlier posted that PCMCIA from DOS is complicated, difficult, and best avoided. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: li

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

ng to program). 100% agreed. > I simply guarantee that you won't be able to write a program that crashes any > version of modern Windows Dosbox. > I fail to see the advantage. Also true. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

se is better. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420)

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

to explore options for DOS. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/

Re: [Freedos-user] QEMU - Max size of Linux access folder

Ubuntu 13.10. Still 100% working, as are all apps. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+42

Re: [Freedos-user] QEMU - Max size of Linux access folder

2GB and it still supports x86-32... for now. It's based on Debian, it uses a mere 200MB of RAM at idle, it's based on LXDE, and it's free, of course. https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/raspberry-pi-desktop/ It does not have Snap or Flatpak but it does use systemd. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: ht

Re: [Freedos-user] QEMU - Max size of Linux access folder

are to 18.10 (now long dead) or to 20.04. Then, from 20.04 the OP could go to 22.04... and for now, that's it. 24.04 isn't out yet. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM:

Re: [Freedos-user] Adapter PCMCIA to CF

stuff did not catch on and go mainstream until the era of Windows 95 and 98, which built in the support and automated the configuration. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamprov

Re: [Freedos-user] Post-install problem with GRUB2 bootloader

inux's GRUB passes control to the 1st partition.) -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 7

Re: [Freedos-user] Post-install problem with GRUB2 bootloader

-problems-by-reinstalling-grub-on-linux.htm The Boot-repair tool may help you: https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (

Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2 (fwd)

usly I had killfiled you. I only saw your mail because I removed that filter. I will reinstate it as soon as I hit "send" on this message. I have tried to help you twice now. You have in both cases responded with vitriol and abuse. Never again. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/

Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2

rom a HDD partition. On some firmware, this makes the BIOS do lots of USB handling and emulation and things work better. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 2

Re: [Freedos-user] USB Stick and Bios

extended holding logical drives. I don't _think_ BIOSes decide on the basis of format; the device detection stuff happens first. Maybe on size? Superfloppies got up to about 120MB. I don't recall much bigger. SCSI lets devices report if they are removable or not. I don't know if USB does. -- Li

Re: [Freedos-user] One use case for FreeDos

ome enthusiastic approval of this notion. I have been working on such a thing myself for 5Y now but 4Y ago I had a daughter and being a dad in my 50s has got in the way... -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/L

Re: [Freedos-user] Some USB-Stick problems

er with a power regulator is sufficient, no extra controller > or card reader necessary Strongly concur with Eric here. If you can eliminate USB storage, I think that will work better with DOS. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB:

Re: [Freedos-user] Some USB-Stick problems

e creator; I can put you in touch, if you wish. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420

Re: [Freedos-user] Installing on an iMac 2011 (with good reason)

If the fans are on full that means you've not enabled power management. DOS runs the main CPU at full speed all the time unless told to do something else. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: li

Re: [Freedos-user] Sound is too loud when running a BOOM source port

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 18:36, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: > Well, Liam, you owe me a full cup of coffee (I might be able to salvage > the keyboard)... :-D (I saw the to/too typo the second I hit "send"...) -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: l

Re: [Freedos-user] Sound is too loud when running a BOOM source port

On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 at 18:00, zerofive--- via Freedos-user wrote: > > Any idea on what should I do? This seems to obvious to mention, but hey... Turn the volume knob on your speakers down? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB

Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?

On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 at 18:50, Alexandro Hipólito via Freedos-user wrote: > > HI, Hi. Please do not hijack other people's threads. Start your own new thread. Then we will try to answer. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB

Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?

at all. Pity. Sadly my copy is in another country right now. I can't upload it anywhere. But it was possible, and it was a very small simple program -- IIRC it shipped on one 720 kB floppy. It would probably be quite easy to clone and reimplement. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://ab

Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed By Means Of UNIX Commands?

can boot a GPT disk in BIOS mode. * No, you do not need UEFI, but your BIOS does need to support it. Most have done for 15-20 years or more. * No, it does not only apply to disks over 2TB; you can partition a 256GB drive with GPT if you want, and I've done it. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https:/

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

layout. EVERY English language PC I ever set up in my >30y career ran some sort of keyboard mapping tool to get my native English language, the language of England, you know, us, the people who invented it, supported and working. keyb uk 437 c:\dos\keyboard.sys -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https:/

Re: [Freedos-user] Lure of the Temptress (again)

re isn't a DOS version, the Windows one can work in a DOS extended called HX: https://forums.scummvm.org/viewtopic.php?t=10327 Not tried, I just Googled... -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~

Re: [Freedos-user] Dosemu on its own - does it exist?

read your multiple emails correctly, you are saying that it got made open source in the end? Is that right? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (

Re: [Freedos-user] Dosemu on its own - does it exist?

On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 00:53, wrote: > > The original version of vmm386 was a fantastic dos multitasker, I never heard of that one before! Do you have any more info or links? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gma

Re: [Freedos-user] Dosemu on its own - does it exist?

> accomplished, even in the 2.x days. Oh really? I didn't look at 2. > I'm sure there are dozens of improvements we could make to FreeDOS. Or > just workarounds. I just don't have any perfect answers. There are no _perfect_ answers. Part of *my* interest is: is there existing tech that

Re: [Freedos-user] Dosemu on its own - does it exist?

nd IPX/SPX support, RS/232 terminals, etc.) and could be useful to someone somewhere. I tried to contact 3 or 4 vendors of Multiuser DOS mentioned in my article. Most didn't reply. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gma

Re: [Freedos-user] Fedora Media Writer (allows to restore USB key to previous state)

g able to boot from USB that I own, has booted from Ventoy... even if some OSes, such as Windows XP and eComStation, will not start from an ISO on a Ventoy drive. > I hesitated to mention yet an other program: Hey, the more the merrier. :-) -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liampro

Re: [Freedos-user] Concept behind RUFUS

ys a tradeoff. Rufus is tiny and doesn't even need to be installed, but it is slow to run: quick download, slow operation. Etcher is huge, but writes fast: slow download, fast operation. There are many others, too: https://www.tecmint.com/linux-bootable-usb-creators/ -- Liam Proven ~ Profile:

Re: [Freedos-user] Concept behind RUFUS

2023 for you. :-( It's why I like DOS. ;-) -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420)

Re: [Freedos-user] Concept behind RUFUS

y ISO files onto it and it generates a boot menu on the fly and boots DOS or Linux or Windows or whatever for you. Ventoy is great and a huge time saver and it just works, so I don't usually use Rufus any more. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMai

Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

athworks_DOS/AA-PAF5C-TK_Pathworks_for_DOS_Overview_V4.1_Aug91.pdf You might be able to find a download of that out there somewhere. I think it was free if you owned the PATHWORKS server. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Link

Re: [Freedos-user] Can you recommend a good single-board-computer for legacy OSs?

recent post talked about the experience of using one: https://ounapuu.ee/posts/2023/02/28/lattepanda-v1/ -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

0416.html I've done this with FreeDOS 1.3 and it works very well. You can insert the key and just copy DOS apps and things onto it, then eject it, put it into another PC and boot it, and the new apps are right there. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gM

Re: [Freedos-user] failing to create bootable install media (or at least boot from it)

ith 32MB of RAM? That is before SD existed. It's mostly before USB too -- maybe USB 1 at best. If you want to boot a DOS-era machine from removable mass storage, try the PLOP boot manager. https://www.plop.at/ -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lp

Re: [Freedos-user] failing to create bootable install media (or at least boot from it)

On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 at 22:38, Walter Vermeir wrote: > > When I write the FreeDOS ISO to the SD-cards or the FreeDOS USB version Write with what? Have you tried USB? If you don't know it, I recommend that you look at and try Ventoy. It makes ISO/IMG file handling much easier. -- Liam

Re: [Freedos-user] keyboard spacecharacter automatically repeated

On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 at 12:24, Thomas Desi wrote: > Anyone any idea why this happens? Might be worth checking for a firmware update. No harm in trying. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lpro

Re: [Freedos-user] Getting FreeDOS

https://blog.tmm.cx/2022/05/15/the-very-weird-hewlett-packard-freedos-option/ -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 7

[Freedos-user] Getting FreeDOS

re asking about HP kit, ask HP. FreeDOS is nothing to do with HP; HP just puts FreeDOS on some machines to avoid paying Microsoft for Windows licences. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skyp

Re: [Freedos-user] djgpp bash and autoconf for dos, new gcc

and copy the contents? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 70

Re: [Freedos-user] Minor Update to PGME

msword\mouse This works fine in FreeDOS Edit, but PGME detects no mouse. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Sig

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 3.11 issues about FreeDOS

ment Project or possibly IBM PC-DOS 7.1. I have download links for both on my blog, but I've been accused of spamming in the past so I won't give the links. I think they should be easily Googled and I've shared them on both Reddit and Facebook in the DOS groups. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://a

Re: [Freedos-user] Minor Update to PGME

DOS 6.x mouse driver should be detected and usable > now. > > https://fd.lod.bz/repos/current/pkg-html/pgme.html > > :-) Oh hurrah! Thank you. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven

Re: [Freedos-user] dosbox-x update available

over that. Remember, x86-64 is not even an Intel design: it is from AMD. Win64 drops 16-bit support. DOS is a 16-bit OS. It went along with 16-bit Windows support, no more and no less. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gma

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

t; > https://eideard.com/2018/08/27/remembering-marc-perkel/ > > > > Cheers, > > Robert > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/free

Re: [Freedos-user] dosbox-x update available

o that those > who use Windows XP (or higher) can enjoy it as well. (Please, if you can, bottom post on mailing lists. It makes threads *much* easier to follow.) I am puzzled: I mean, XP can run DOS programs directly, without assistance, can't it? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/l

Re: [Freedos-user] More on OpenGEM

s makes me very sad. Also, I tried 386Max as that is now GPL, as discussed on this list. Like QEMM, it runs fine in a VM -- but for me, 386Max locks the machine hard (hold-down-power-switch level) on the bare metal on the 3 machines I've tried. I have yet to try GeoWorks/Breadbox Ensemble on modern kit. Th

Re: [Freedos-user] More on OpenGEM

hat on DR-DOS 7.01-08 here. ViewMax can use the TaskMax multitasking that is built into DR-DOS. FreeDOS has nothing like that yet, AFAIK, and also AFAIK TaskMax won't work on any other OS. I suppose I could use ViewMax instead of full GEM, though, if it's just a launcher. ViewMax is GPL. --

[Freedos-user] More on OpenGEM

. Do it on Github? Send a PR, or just fork the project and do my own? Any comments or preferences? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

imple app launcher. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 70

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

orised list of installed programs, with descriptions. Failing that, a point-and-click GUI that lets users navigate directories and start DOS apps without typing. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: l

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 at 18:28, Travis Siegel wrote: > > For what it's worth, the best dos menuing system I ever found was called > Mark's Menu. Sounds promising. I may have found a copy. I will give it a try. Thank you! -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Em

[Freedos-user] PGME [was: DOSshell replacement]

e only 1 app in its list and no way to add more. It seems not to be a functional app, just a demo of the programming library. I suggest removing it as it does nothing useful. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitte

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

esn't say what folder it is *meant* to be in. It does not work installed in \OPENGEM or \GEM so it is not either of those. I am trying to work out what, but I don't know what config file to look in. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 at 15:20, Dave Stevens via Freedos-user wrote: > > why not stuff the app launcher files into the default folder and point and > click there? What app launcher files? What default folder? Point and click with what -- there's no mouse interface by default? -- Li

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

night Commander, it's a file manager, not an app launcher, isn't it? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

m fairly sure he'd be happy to provide > anyone with the resources to his old copies - if not already on GIThub etc. Not seen that, but I don't use DOSbox and I don't run games, so I suppose I wouldn't. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

1980s and I still don't, TBH. I am happy enough at the command line. It's one of the often-included-with-Linux tools I am baffled about. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

what outliners are for or how to use them. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+4

[Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

hen I pick English. Several others are under restrictive licences. Even OpenGEM can't draw windows, under Virtualbox or on bare metal, and its complicated batch-file setup system doesn't work and throws errors. Is there anything dead simple that isn't broken and is totally free? -- Liam Proven

Re: [Freedos-user] CP/M "and derivatives" legal status clarified

ia.org/wiki/PL/M Some parts were hand-coded in assembly. CP/M-68K was originally written in Pascal. Later on, around the Concurrent CP/M-86 era, the OS was rewritten in C, as was CP/M-68K I think. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/

Re: [Freedos-user] CP/M "and derivatives" legal status clarified

elease) and then shut down. Then Lineo found some Novell backups and re-incorporated them and published bug fix releases. This was the basis of the 7.02 and 7.03 releases, I believe. > Am I barking up the wrong tree, or is this just me misremembering things? I think you are, I'm afraid. -- Liam Proven

[Freedos-user] CP/M "and derivatives" legal status clarified

hing and I suspect as good as we will ever get. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 7

Re: [Freedos-user] New mTCP available

ct when I emigrated -- Red Hat was going to ship it to Canada from the UK for me. De Raadt changed his mind when he learned it wasn't the fastest model, and Red Hat Farnborough lost the machine.  Anyway, making new SSH keys on a VAX took as much as a couple of *days* in some instances. -- Li

Re: [Freedos-user] Assembly Language and BASIC

rbo Pascal, Object Pascal, Delphi, Kylix and FreePascal. All legit, all sold and were widely-used at some points in time. You can't say that there are too many Pascal variants unless you also say that there are too many C variants. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lp

Re: [Freedos-user] FD13 floppy installation attempts

w tens of kilobytes. Put it on a floppy, boot the PC from the floppy, and then Plop will boot a CD for you. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~

Re: [Freedos-user] virt-install freedos

e QEMU emulator for running x86 OSes on x86. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/

[Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option"

not just a computer with a formatted hard disk and FreeDOS on it. It's considerably more complicated than that... -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884

Re: [Freedos-user] Shared folders in VirtualBox

ng, VMware does not, *but* there is a way round it? Very useful info. Thank you! -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]:

Re: [Freedos-user] Shared folders in VirtualBox

king functionality. Connectix' VirtualPC used to offer DOS guest additions, but it only works on VirtualPC. VPC is freeware now, but only supports up to Win7 (with a hack to run on Win8). I don't think VMware has DOS guest additions. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email:

Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

strokes and UI (which personally I do not) then the WordPerfect Editor is freeware. It does only plain text but it's even lighter and quicker than the full app. https://clasqm.github.io/freedos-repo/Productivity.html -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

ed above can be found here: http://www-ftp.lip6.fr/pub/pc/garbo/pc/programming/ I hope this helps. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ Whats

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

bol on DOS_ (which will be hard, and a lot of work)... Or do you want to develop in GNU Cobol and _run the program that comes out on DOS_? That will be easier to do. These are *very* different goals! -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

arently-also-means-windows-311-and-dos https://github.com/MichalStrehovsky/SeeSharpSnake A Snake game in _8 kB_ of .NET code. But using custom libraries and disabling a lot of functionality. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro.

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 23:27, Travis Siegel wrote: > How does one tell which version of WSL is in use? https://pureinfotech.com/check-wsl-version-windows-10/ The command: wsl -l -v ... should tell you. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gM

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

lBox. Well, AFAICS, because it was easier, smaller, faster, and offered better integration with the host OS. Aren't those reason enough? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

ferent jobs if there is a particular tool that is better for a particular job. In this instance, one is. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

resting workarounds, but I'm still interested in getting the original, simpler tool working, so I don't need any virtual disk drives or anything. Is that a strange thing to want? It doesn't feel like it is to me, but I do feel like an odd man out on this list. :-( -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: h

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

It's also better for people using accessibility tools, smaller devices, takes less space, helps prevent email-borne viruses, and aids quoting and conversations. I *highly* recommend it. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro..

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

ome sound support: http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/linux.html#sound « Dosemu2 emulates a Sound Blaster Pro card » There's some possible OPL3 AdLib-type support: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=62=76767 Does that help? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

full native execution speed. I don't want or need the weight of an emulator or soundcard support or anything. It was just a way to work with my old DOS apps on a modern computer as part of my modern OS. These workarounds all sound more complex and more fiddly to me... or is it just me? -- Liam Pr

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

that a FAT filesystem. My Linux apps can't see into it. My DOS apps can't see Linux files. Whether it's in a window or not doesn't matter. That's just cosmetics. I'm not starting an argument, I am just trying to understand. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@c

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

estions. [1] You are running a real separate DOS inside DOSBOX (or DOSBOX-X). These products come with their own built-in DOS. Why use your own? I am just curious. [2] Is there a version of GNU COBOL for DOS? I can't find any mention of this on Google. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.m

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

t see how a hypervisor -- any hypervisor -- can replace it? How can a DOS VM do any of the things I just suggested? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-08788

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 05:15, Travis Siegel wrote: > > Ok, odd question, (lots of emulation), but I've got ubuntu 20.04 running > under win10, using wsl. WSL1 or WSL2? Might work on WSL2. Might not on WSL1 because there is no actual Linux kernel present. -- Liam Proven ~ Profi

Re: [Freedos-user] error-message with the find command

ET PATH line in autoexec.bat and remove it. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420)

Re: [Freedos-user] Looking for easy to follow instructions on how to connect to Samba share

is ancient program running for another year or > two! I suspect it's already out of support. XP itself is, VirtualPC is, and Win7 is on special paid-for emergency patches only. But then again, FreeDOS is out of support, because it was never *in* support. :-D -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.

Re: [Freedos-user] Will freedos running in a Virtual box VM recognise a host attached USB security dongle?

gher need the extension pack. Only USB 1 can be used for free. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ W

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