Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed On A Logical Slice? The Answer Remains Unknown

2023-07-23 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi Jay! I tried to do the same thing with a logical slice of disk but FreeDOS failed to see it.  If it is possible to install FreeDOS onto a logical slice of disk, inside of the extended slice, the technique for doing so is unknown, or, at least, unknown by me. DOS can not be installed on a

Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed On A Logical Slice? The Answer Remains Unknown

2023-07-21 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-user
On 7/21/2023 1:51 PM, Jay F. Shachter via Freedos-user wrote: Esteemed Colleagues: A little bit less formal might be more appropriate... slice, Microsoft Windows was still able to boot, and then I recreated the third primary slice, and I installed FreeDOS onto it. I had to change its 8-bit

[Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed On A Logical Slice? The Answer Remains Unknown

2023-07-21 Thread Jay F. Shachter via Freedos-user
Esteemed Colleagues: I successfully installed FreeDOS onto a primary slice of an MBR-partitioned disk. I was able to do this only because, even though Microsoft Windows had installed itself onto all three primary slices, someone told me that Microsoft Windows did not need the third one, and I

Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed By Means Of UNIX Commands?

2023-07-17 Thread Liam Proven via Freedos-user
On Sun, 16 Jul 2023 at 15:23, Jay F. Shachter via Freedos-user wrote: > Microsoft Windows is installed on three primary > partitions, because that is what Windows does, and every other > operating system on this computer must find a home for itself within > the logical partitions carved out of

Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed By Means Of UNIX Commands?

2023-07-16 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
> On Jul 16, 2023, at 10:21 AM, Jay F. Shachter via Freedos-user > wrote: > [..] > If the answer to the first question is Yes, then I can continue this > narrative, otherwise the remainder of this posting is moot. I copied > FD13FULL.img to a USB stick, stuck it into the above-described >

Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed By Means Of UNIX Commands?

2023-07-16 Thread Felix Miata via Freedos-user
Jay F. Shachter composed on 2023-07-16 09:21 (UTC-0500): > I have a computer, with an MBR-partitioned disk, that is configured to > perform Legacy boot. Microsoft Windows is installed on three primary > partitions, because that is what Windows does It did that because you didn't take control.

Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed By Means Of UNIX Commands?

2023-07-16 Thread C. Masloch via Freedos-user
Hi, On at 2023-07-16 09:21 -0500, Jay F. Shachter via Freedos-user wrote: Esteemed Colleagues: I have a computer, with an MBR-partitioned disk, that is configured to perform Legacy boot. Microsoft Windows is installed on three primary partitions, because that is what Windows does, and every

Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed By Means Of UNIX Commands?

2023-07-16 Thread Bryan Kilgallin via Freedos-user
G'day, Jay: Microsoft Windows is installed on three primary partitions, because that is what Windows does, and every other operating system on this computer must find a home for itself within the logical partitions carved out of the fourth, extended partition. Ugh! The installation

[Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed By Means Of UNIX Commands?

2023-07-16 Thread Jay F. Shachter via Freedos-user
Esteemed Colleagues: I have a computer, with an MBR-partitioned disk, that is configured to perform Legacy boot. Microsoft Windows is installed on three primary partitions, because that is what Windows does, and every other operating system on this computer must find a home for itself within

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-22 Thread OMGdaDPS
Just pick yourself up an old free computer locally. I can confirm that I have been able to get freeDOS up and running PERFECTLY on a Pentium 3. I am about to permanently install it on a either a Pentium D or just a Pentium 4. :) On Sep 22 2019, at 7:13 am, Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote:

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-22 Thread Random Liegh via Freedos-user
On 9/19/2019 9:03 AM, Jim Hall wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:41 AM wrote: Asking the question a different way. Is there another virtual app (alternatives to Virtualbox or VMWare) that does a much better job supporting DOS hardware which I can install FreeDOS onto? That's probably the

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-20 Thread steve
That is very cool and I saw the instructions so I'll give it a shot. I was really hoping for a virtualizer that acts like a '90s PC and looks like I found it. Should be a lot of fun. On 2019-09-20 07:46, geneb wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, st...@vwebr.net wrote: > >> Not making any

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-20 Thread geneb
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, st...@vwebr.net wrote: Not making any assumptions at all, and frankly it sounds interesting. Merely trying to understand what it is in comparison to Virtualbox and VMWare, or DOSBox. If it's a virtual machine app meant to install an OS into like the first two, then of

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-20 Thread Jon Brase
a significant use of the term in a context fairly far from that in which it is usually employed.  Original message From: st...@vwebr.net Date: 9/19/2019 22:39 (GMT-06:00) To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeD

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-19 Thread steve
Please ignore my last. I see that it's a hypervisor, which should do what I need. I almost thought it was too much like DOSBox which is its own OS and I was trying to stay away from that. Nothing against DOSBox, it has its place and is best in what it does. On 2019-09-19 21:22,

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-19 Thread steve
Not making any assumptions at all, and frankly it sounds interesting. Merely trying to understand what it is in comparison to Virtualbox and VMWare, or DOSBox. If it's a virtual machine app meant to install an OS into like the first two, then of course I'm very interested. On 2019-09-19

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-19 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user
For those times when VirtualBox doesn't cut it, I use AQEMU, a GUI-based frontend for QEMU. QEMU itself supports SO many options that using it from a command line can be a little daunting; AQEMU's GUI approach makes creating/configuring VMs much more straightforward IMO. Sent with

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-19 Thread Jim Hall
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:41 AM wrote: > > Asking the question a different way. > > Is there another virtual app (alternatives to Virtualbox or VMWare) that does > a much better job supporting DOS hardware which I can install FreeDOS onto? > > That's probably the ultimate solution for those of

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-19 Thread geneb
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, st...@vwebr.net wrote: Asking the question a different way. Is there another virtual app (alternatives to Virtualbox or VMWare) that does a much better job supporting DOS hardware which I can install FreeDOS onto? That's what 86Box does - it supports a huge range of

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-19 Thread steve
Asking the question a different way. Is there another virtual app (alternatives to Virtualbox or VMWare) that does a much better job supporting DOS hardware which I can install FreeDOS onto? That's probably the ultimate solution for those of us not installing FreeDOS on actual hardware, which

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-18 Thread geneb
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Jim Hall wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 8:07 AM geneb wrote: I've found that 86Box is probably the best PC emulator out there. It's basically a PC emulated at the hardware level for a number of different motherboard chipsets. It actually uses original BIOS ROMs and

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-18 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 8:07 AM geneb wrote: > I've found that 86Box is probably the best PC emulator out there. It's > basically a PC emulated at the hardware level for a number of different > motherboard chipsets. It actually uses original BIOS ROMs and even video > BIOS ROMs. You can find

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-18 Thread geneb
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Jon Brase wrote: On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:18:18 -0600 st...@vwebr.net wrote: This is kind of a sore point when using Windows-based virtualization apps. Virtualbox (and I believe VMWare) support SoundBlaster 16, but only to a certain extent (as in later versions of

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jon, some extra details: There was a VBE sound BIOS extension, but basically nobody used it, in any case no games I know. And there was a project to create a virtual soundblaster, which is mirrored on https://auersoft.eu/soft/by-others/ but it is more like a draft of implementing some very

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-17 Thread Jon Brase
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:18:18 -0600 st...@vwebr.net wrote: > This is kind of a sore point when using Windows-based virtualization > apps. > > Virtualbox (and I believe VMWare) support SoundBlaster 16, but only to a > certain extent (as in later versions of Windows). > > They don't support DOS

[Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

2019-09-16 Thread steve
This is kind of a sore point when using Windows-based virtualization apps. Virtualbox (and I believe VMWare) support SoundBlaster 16, but only to a certain extent (as in later versions of Windows). They don't support DOS sound, period. One of the things I noticed with DOS games is that I/O

Re: [Freedos-user] can freedos?

2014-09-23 Thread Christopher Evans
Freedos will work well on 64bit cpu. Just kernel will have its 16/32 bit memory limits though. -- -chris Computer Consultant Repair Tech Digitalatoll Solutions Group (Tawhaki Software) http://digitalatoll.com/ http://tawhakisoft.com/ Cell: 916-612-6904 Digitalatoll Social Network

[Freedos-user] can freedos?

2014-09-22 Thread Karen Lewellen
Mercy the things that come across my desk...even if I am not seeking them. a question only. I have no idea why the person is asking. Will freedos run on a 64 bit machine? Thanks, Kare -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance

Re: [Freedos-user] can freedos?

2014-09-22 Thread Corbin Davenport
Yes. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Mercy the things that come across my desk...even if I am not seeking them. a question only. I have no idea why the person is asking. Will freedos run on a 64 bit machine? Thanks, Kare

Re: [Freedos-user] can freedos?

2014-09-22 Thread Ralf Quint
On 9/22/2014 3:23 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Mercy the things that come across my desk...even if I am not seeking them. a question only. I have no idea why the person is asking. Will freedos run on a 64 bit machine? Yes, of course. Unless you are referring with 64 bit machine to an Intel

Re: [Freedos-user] can freedos?

2014-09-22 Thread Jim Hall
Short answer is yes. Longer answer is that you won't be able to take advantage of anything 64bit on the machine. FreeDOS is still DOS, so it runs as a 16bit process. Be careful if you machine has EFI, instead of BIOS. FreeDOS requires BIOS. Otherwise, you are better off running FreeDOS in a

Re: [Freedos-user] can freedos access a floppy disk image

2008-05-23 Thread Bonnie Dalzell
On Wed, 21 May 2008, Robert Riebisch wrote: RR Bonnie Dalzell wrote: RR RR Can freedos mount this disk image and use it rather than the floppy disk RR in question? RR RR If so, how do you mount the disk image? RR RR There's a third party software called E0X available from RR

Re: [Freedos-user] can freedos access a floppy disk image

2008-05-23 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Friday 23 May 2008, Bonnie Dalzell wrote: Thanks for the tip. The program seems to be in an .arj format. What is ..arj and how does one unpack it? Hi, ARJ is a file compression program (it used to be the most well-known archiver in ol' good days...). To unpack it, just go get the unarj

[Freedos-user] can freedos access a floppy disk image

2008-05-21 Thread Bonnie Dalzell
I can make a diskimage of a floppy disk in linux with dd Can freedos mount this disk image and use it rather than the floppy disk in question? If so, how do you mount the disk image? ~~~ Bonnie

Re: [Freedos-user] can freedos access a floppy disk image

2008-05-21 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Bonnie :-) I can make a diskimage of a floppy disk in linux with dd Can freedos mount this disk image and use it rather than the floppy disk in question? If so, how do you mount the disk image? Try using the shsurdrv ramdisk and related tools. To boot from a diskimage, try grub4dos or

Re: [Freedos-user] can freedos access a floppy disk image

2008-05-21 Thread Robert Riebisch
Bonnie Dalzell wrote: Can freedos mount this disk image and use it rather than the floppy disk in question? If so, how do you mount the disk image? There's a third party software called E0X available from http://kannegieser.net/veit/programm/index_e.htm, which allows to substitute your