I have heard a proposal for doing smaller adjustments more often - but why
not take that to the logical extreme and do it continuously? Most people
use some form or other of computer to tell time nowadays anyway, and even
physical mechanisms would not be extremely difficult (I think) to redesign
On 03/14/2013 09:16 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
Er.. IMAP? You have complete control over gmail. I uploaded 20+ years
of mail to it over a day or so and have it all cached on my IMAP clients
(thunderbird and mail.app) .. yes one needs 1 and I'm positive you
have multiple clients.
I have to
No, not IMAP. I want my own cloud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvKj8lTuVtk
inevitably will lead to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq3YdpB6N9M
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I like it! Assuming spherical cows .. i.e. an hour's shift twice a year
(although they are not symmetric .. more days of DST than std time) .. we'd
shift 60 seconds per 6 months or 10sec/month or roughly .33 sec/day.
The asymmetry would make things fairly non-linear, but easily computable
and
I love it! I agree this is the limit to which we're headed.
I just bought a Synology Network Attached Storage unit: two server grade
2TB disks in RAID configuration. I got it mainly for backup
and redundancy but when it came, it mentioned many services it has and
shows how to set it up securely
Glen wrote:
... that general trend indicates that
this string ... e.g. "g...@ropella.name" will eventually _actually_
be
my name, my unique ID ... the primary hook by which people
communicate
with me (or throw me in jail, accuse me of terrorism, ... whatever).
There was a time when every village had their clock tower in the square
and they set it as the town elders saw fit and adjusted it similarly.
No NNTP, no WWV Radio, only the (constantly shifting around) Sun, Moon,
Stars. You wanna know what time it is? Look out the window toward the
REC -
Most excellent... thanks!
I think progress itself is highly over-rated or at least
mis-apprehended. It isn't necessarily what we think it is!
- SAS
Funny.
Going back to Hamming's lectures, again, in one of the early ones he
lays out the case that scientific knowledge is growing
Steve Smith wrote at 03/14/2013 08:50 PM:
Obviously (to me?) Owen's (and the others discussing such things) stake
is not whether to buy GOOG but rather whether to invest one's
personal/professional energy and attention in learning/using/integrating
their tools into one's workflow (or Digital
Glen -
I think it was RA Wilson who claimed that all it took was 20 years to
turn a liberal into a conservative.
Oddly, I spent about 15 years turning from a raging Conservative
into a Progressive (if not precisely Liberal). The next 15 seem to be
sending me off toward the Anarchist
Steve Smith wrote at 03/15/2013 09:47 AM:
OK Glen... Looks like you've been called out, now we want to see YOUR
version of this classic!
Well, I don't know anything about classics, per se. But here's the
distinction I'd make. The vector should be:
from this --
But is the time change even needed? What purpose does it really serve? There
are lots of stories about it rooted in wartime/economy etc. But these things do
not seem to be valid anymore. And are they worth the collective cost?
I have to say I prefer light later in the day though.
--joshua
Glen -
IMO the very best rants do end in a [sigh]. As with Dennis Miller
back in the day when he started with Don't let me get off on a rant
here and ended with
Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
OT: I used to love Dennis Miller. I'm not sure what happened, but all
of a
I heard somewhere that it is a plot by the fast food industry. Apparently
fast food sales go up dramatically after daylight saving time comes on.
(!?)
N
-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Thorp
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:34 AM
To:
OK Glen... Looks like you've been called out, now we want to see YOUR
version of this classic!
Well, I don't know anything about classics, per se. But here's the
distinction I'd make. The vector should be:
from this -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9SKjdoTXg
to this --
What blows my mind is the apparent lack of movement in the # of people
who _think_ they understand what's going on around them. I had that
conversation with Nick awhile back. He keeps asking about postmodernism
and my answer to him was that postmodernists are simply people who admit
they have
I heard somewhere that it is a plot by the fast food industry. Apparently
fast food sales go up dramatically after daylight saving time comes on.
(!?)
N
I'm amazed when restaurants don't extend their closing by an hour when
DST comes around... as if people's hunger clocks can be adjusted
Slam Dunk!
Maybe dementia is just part of the annealing schedule? Assuming of
course there were actually a Plan(tm).
What blows my mind is the apparent lack of movement in the # of people
who _think_ they understand what's going on around them. I had that
conversation with Nick awhile
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Joshua Thorp jth...@redfish.com wrote:
But is the time change even needed? What purpose does it really serve?
There are lots of stories about it rooted in wartime/economy etc. But
these things do not seem to be valid anymore. And are they worth the
I like daylight savings. Gives another point of semi-regularity to my year.
-tj
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote:
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Joshua Thorp jth...@redfish.com wrote:
But is the time change even needed? What purpose does it really
Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?
I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the
number in my phone trap,
Agreed. I do like the petition's approach: simply no time
shifting during the year. Whether it stays DST all year long
(my preference) or "standard time" is to be decided.
I'm not sure anyone (at our latitude) is
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Daylight_Saving_Time_3.svg
Agreed. I do like the petition's approach: simply no time shifting
during the year. Whether it stays DST all year long (my preference)
or standard time is to be decided.
I'm not sure anyone (at our latitude) is
I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented
people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus,
but the callers' numbers were blocked.
No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.
--Doug
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at
I like daylight savings too, because I like listening to people bitch about
it.
--Doug
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote:
I like daylight savings. Gives another point of semi-regularity to my
year.
-tj
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Owen Densmore
YES I've gotten calls like that in the past from some people from china
someplace trying to claim they work for MS. I don't know who to report them
to. It's not just fishing it's social engineering (aka fraud and lying)-
in my case the guy was all panicky that I might have malware and if I let
him
I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression that he
was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He got very
flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run
Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally
lol if you do record the conversation for our amusement (as well as good
blog material).
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote:
I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented
people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was
I too like DST -- mainly because it stays light later in the evening and
dark later in the morning. Strange, this is what it was supposed to
accomplish. It actually works. Why change it?
*-- Russ Abbott*
*_*
*** Professor, Computer Science*
*
Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could
bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring
around I doubt that the kind of person that goes to or is on the FRIAM list
is his mark.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel
For some of us with a already wonky metabalism we don't need help with it
being more wonky by some extremely dead person for gigles I hit wikiepedia
with DST and the list is at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dst
For those using plain text:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dst
work safe.
Microsoft is usually all it takes to get me to hang up as well.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could
bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring
So Owen. You want your school aged grandchildren children standing out by
the mail box in the pitch dark of the night (January, 6am, DST) in rush hour
traffic?
Why does it not work for you just to get up when you feel like and let us
lemmings shift back to standard time when we feel like
I feel both insulted, and flattered. I can live with that.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
So Owen. You want your school aged grandchildren children standing out
by the mail box in the pitch dark of the night (January, 6am, DST) in rush
Yes he can actually he can abolish the time shift- and it looks like most
of the rest of the world gets along just fine w/o one.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
So Owen. You want your school aged grandchildren children standing out
by the
Hanging up may not always be the best solution.
A while ago my wife was getting pornographic calls. I could tell it was the
crank caller since he asked for her as Rose instead of Rose Mary. When I asked
who was calling he got quite huffy and said he wasn't calling for me, he was
calling for
I doubt this is still true but when I was younger the maps showed that Saudi
Arabia was on solar time, i.e. the time depended on where you were standing.
Ed
__
Ed Angel
Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer
A nice variant is this: Many years ago a friend reported getting a sales
call about window blinds and told the salesman that oh yes she was very
interested in this and please hold the line while she goes and makes some
measurements of her windows..
Bruce
In case gmail also heads south, Dropbox has a new partner, Mailbox:
http://goo.gl/y3IL2
.. with the obligatory hacker news
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5381572
.. and /. stories
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/03/15/1822258/dropbox-acquires-mailbox
Also just search: mailbox
Arlo Barnes wrote at 03/14/2013 10:30 PM:
Now, there are many things Google does that could be considered evil (or
at least heading that way; all that foofaraw with Verizon?), but not
providing service previously provided for free is not one of them. It is
merely annoying, or at worst (if all
Rolling in shit is highly underrated.
On Mar 15, 2013 6:08 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:
D-
I feel both insulted, and flattered. I can live with that.
hardly... I can hear you rolling in it (like a dog in an animal carcass)
from 8 miles away! ;)
Sorry to be so cranky. I am
Ed-
Cutting in before Doug gets there...
It sounds like you get *all* the fun!
Maybe I should answer my phone even when I don't recognize the phone
number... that is MY solution... it works amazingly well, though the
false positives do irritate my friends and colleagues, though that is
Rolling in shit is highly underrated.
Oh yeh... dogs like to do that too!
Mine can do some amazing shoulder rolls at full gallop when she comes
across something.
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How are you doing, neighbor?
On Mar 15, 2013 6:23 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:
Rolling in shit is highly underrated.
Oh yeh... dogs like to do that too!
Mine can do some amazing shoulder rolls at full gallop when she comes
across something.
Sarbajit -
And here we thought it was you!
Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and
tell him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his
credit card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...
We could all have a party and
Hi Steve
I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably with
little knowledge of computers and under-informed of human psychology.
Probably picked the wrong bunch at FRIAM :-).
Doug (from what I observe) takes care of himself very well. I'll ask my
friends to devise a
Throw in a US Navy Admiral (Retired) Sarbajit, and you have the perfect
recipe!
(Old, inside joke, I'm afraid).
--Doug
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve
I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably
with little
Would that be Vice Admiral George Nanos of cowboys and butthead fame?
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote:
Throw in a US Navy Admiral (Retired) Sarbajit, and you have the perfect
recipe!
(Old, inside joke, I'm afraid).
--Doug
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013
The same, I'm afraid.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com wrote:
Would that be Vice Admiral George Nanos of cowboys and butthead fame?
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote:
Throw in a US Navy Admiral (Retired) Sarbajit, and
On 3/15/13 7:58 AM, lrudo...@meganet.net wrote:
No, not IMAP. I want my own cloud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvKj8lTuVtk
inevitably will lead to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq3YdpB6N9M
Wow, I'm lost, but here's another..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWdP8B4BHss
A quote from an obituary
(http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sunherald/obituary.aspx?pid=163538353#fbLoggedOut)
that has gone viral
He particularly hated Day Light Saving Time, which he referred to as The
Devil's Time. It is not lost on his family that he died the very day that he
would have
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