[FRIAM] Dennis Cox reports YDB ice comet fragment airburst melt rocks now in labs for expert study: cosmictusk.blog: Rich Murray 2010.10.08

2010-10-08 Thread Rich Murray
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[FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
Ok, so I've decided my literary education is somewhat lacking and would like to know this group's recommendations for the 10 Best Literary Works I should read. They have to be works of fiction and available in English and not just say of 2009 but of all time. Google searches tend to list

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Russell Standish
I would have to vote for the Bible. Its arguably not great fiction, but its probably the most influential work of fiction in the English language. Cheers ;). On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 01:44:31PM -0600, Robert J. Cordingley wrote: Ok, so I've decided my literary education is somewhat lacking and

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread qef
Robert -- The St. John's graduate in me says whoopie! Here are 10, in no particular order: Shakespeare: Sonnets Shakespeare: Romeo Juliet Dante: The Divine Comedy Homer: The Iliad Tolstoy: War Peace Cervantes: Don Quixote Eliot: Middlemarch Austen: Pride Prejudice Fitzgerald: The Great

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Paul Paryski
Take a look at this: One Hundred Best Books John Cowper Powys ISBN10: 1116904438 ISBN13: 9781116904437 Publisher: BiblioLife, LLC Format: Paperback Publication date: 07 Nov 2009 cheers, Paul -Original Message- From: q...@aol.com To: friam@redfish.com Sent: Fri, Oct 8, 2010

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Scott R. Powell
Good grief, I have that as a Little Blue Book published by E. Haldeman-Julius, falling apart on high acid content paper. Scott On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Paul Paryski ppary...@aol.com wrote: Take a look at this: [image: ISBN: 9781116904437 - One Hundred Best

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Hugh Trenchard
The Glass Bead Game, by Hermann Hesse, is a must-read for any self-respecting complexity theorist :-) Hugh - Original Message - From: Robert J. Cordingley rob...@cirrillian.com To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread George Duncan
Restricting to just novels -- Ulysses by James Joyce A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce Moby Dick (1849) by Herman Melville The Sound and the Fury (1929) by William Faulkner The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Crime and Punishment: by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Atonement

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Robert Holmes
So I take it that our working definition of best is will look good on the coffee table and impress liberal arts graduates rather than will be read and enjoyed? ;-) -- R P.S. Also: when selecting foreign authors you must specify the translation if you are going to maximize your pseud points. It's

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Steve Smith
I've just been reading a collection of Twain's writings on writing itself. Therefore I have to offer the classic Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. It is the classic American Novel, and not just (though especially) for young men. I squirm at Frank's recommendation of (anything by?) Cormac

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Hugh Trenchard wrote circa 10-10-08 02:56 PM: The Glass Bead Game, by Hermann Hesse, is a must-read for any self-respecting complexity theorist :-) +1 I was also _very_ fond of Narcissus and Goldmund... Oh! Oh! and Siddhartha and Steppenwolf, as well. I'd also add the following to the list:

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Douglas Roberts
Geeze, doesn't anybody like good science fiction any more? Larry Nivin's Ringworld. Poul Anderson's Gateway series. --Doug On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: I've just been reading a collection of Twain's writings on writing itself. Therefore I have to

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Steve Smith
R - So I take it that our working definition of best is will look good on the coffee table and impress liberal arts graduates rather than will be read and enjoyed? ;-) I don't think that was the original question. Is it evidenced in some of the answers? Or is this just Doug spoofing your

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Steve Smith
Doug - Geeze, doesn't anybody like good science fiction any more? Larry Nivin's Ringworld. Poul Anderson's Gateway series. I love that shit (much of SF)... but don't quite want to call most of it literature... great storytelling and exposition of esoteric scientific concepts... but not

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Pamela McCorduck
Lists like this are always a bit odd. I got dressed down last night (gently but firmly) by a professor of English who couldn't believe that I thought Brothers K. was the most tedious thing I've ever read half of (couldn't drive myself to read the second half). I like other Dostoevsky--just

Re: [FRIAM] The most productive Thread of 2010!

2010-10-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Robert, Didn't I hear you complain once that nobody ever paid attention to your posts? You hit paydirt THIS time. Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert J. Cordingley Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:45 PM

Re: [FRIAM] The most productive Thread of 2010!

2010-10-08 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
Hey Nick, That's funny - may be it was Frank's recommendation that kicked things off. But what are your top 10. So far seven titles have been recommended more than once! Stay tuned. Thanks Robert On 10/8/10 6:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Robert, Didn't I hear you complain once that

Re: [FRIAM] The most productive Thread of 2010!

2010-10-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Weird to say, but I don't read that much fiction. My wife feeds my stuff from time to time and I read it. I will ask her what I like. N -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert J. Cordingley Sent: Friday, October 08,

[FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-08 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
Hoping there's someone on this list that knows something about spiders in New Mexico... There were two of these hanging out just on the outside of my house in Santa Fe. One had made a large somewhat circular web about 2 ft across. At night it would sit in the middle, during the day it

Re: [FRIAM] The most productive Thread of 2010!

2010-10-08 Thread Julia Susemihl
really? does she pack your clothes as well? From: nickthomp...@earthlink.net To: friam@redfish.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 18:50:09 -0600 Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The most productive Thread of 2010! Weird to say, but I don't read that much fiction. My wife feeds my stuff from time to time

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-08 Thread Roger Frye
We have one outside our front door tonight, and it hides during the day. It seems to be harmless, and the back looks like a smiley face. We think it is an orange crab spider (google that for images). On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote: Hoping there's someone on this list

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Carl Tollander
Well, like an exercise program, the best books are the one's one actually rereads. I was that liberal arts major, until I came across computer science, then all was lost, then complexity and developmental biology, and all was *really* lost...virtually nothing on the English major curriculum

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-08 Thread Scott R. Powell
Probably the common orb weaver, of which there are many varieties, capable of great feats of engineering - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orb-weaver_spider It's not going to come in the house but I wouldn't try picking one up. Scott Powell Sent from my iPad On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Robert

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-08 Thread Carl Tollander
Black Widows - Shiny long legs, hourglass on back - worry some, as they can get agressive and the bites are persistently painful. Ubiquitous and the big one's can be resilient against 2x4's. They make more. Lots more. Brown Recluse - All brown, hides in slight creases on a newspaper -

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-08 Thread Scott R. Powell
The Araneus Pima orb weaver? http://bugguide.net/node/view/13512/bgimage Sent from my iPad On Oct 8, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Roger Frye rf...@qforma.com wrote: We have one outside our front door tonight, and it hides during the day. It seems to be harmless, and the back looks like a smiley face.

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-08 Thread Steve Smith
My $.02 It looks (and by description of it's web) like what I know of as an Orb Web Spider. Common enough in Northern NM and harmless (to humans) despite the sinister (downright ugly?) look. There seem to be a *lot* of spiders referred to as orb web including /Araneus gemmoides/

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-08 Thread Steve Smith
I know them, by the way, to get quite a bit bigger... like an inch or more across (body only) and range from pasty brown to pasty white (uglier)... Hoping there's someone on this list that knows something about spiders in New Mexico... There were two of these hanging out just on the outside

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Steve Smith
Trying to reduce a high-dimensional and subjective data set to a one-dimensional well-ordered set is a fools errand. I love hearing other's favorites and opinions of what makes a work of fiction literature and what makes one work better than another. I think Jack's criteria here are

Re: [FRIAM] The most productive Thread of 2010!

2010-10-08 Thread Steve Smith
Nick - Sorry, my comment was meant to have been offline to Robert. For some reason, “reply” sometimes gets me the list, rather than the writer to the list. My bad. Most list-serves set the reply-to: in the header to the list itself so that the default reply *is* to the list. It gets me

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Stephen Guerin
I'd add Sometimes a Great Notion, by Ken Kesey and pretty much any volume of Encyclopedia Brown. That kid can solve anything. -S _ step...@redfish.com (m) 505-216-6226 (o) 505-995-0206 sfcomplex.org | simtable.com | ambientpixel.com

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
Steve re: Brown... You have to pick specific volumes! Sorry if I didn't make that clear, otherwise someone could suggest a decalogy and 9 others, ie 19 works! Thanks Robert C On 10/8/10 11:22 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: I'd add Sometimes a Great Notion, by Ken Kesey and pretty much any

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-08 Thread Alison Jones
After 10 years of lurking something I can finally comment on. In no particlular order: Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy Winter's Tale by Mark Helprin Dead Souls by Nikolai Gogol Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie Sometime a Great Notion by Ken Kesey Beloved by Toni Morrison Middlemarch by George