Re: [FRIAM] the self

Glen wrote: "All you've done is pass the buck from "self" to "me". And given the hijinks Roger pulled with Swarm, self might respond to "jump" one day, but throw an error the next ... just like, say, today I can throw a baseball with my right arm. But if I break that arm, tomorrow I might

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

It seems to me that there are many here in the US who are not entirely on board with Asimov's First Law of Robotics, at least insofar as it may apply to themselves, so I suspect notions of "reining it in" are probably not going to fly. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

The notion of AI's as necessarily sentient seems a bit of a jump. However, I see a difference between an AI augmented sentience (a la a spiffy AR) and a bunch of possibly sentient AI's flying in formation (a la a murder of crows or a pack of wolves). Going further out into Niel Stephenson's

[FRIAM] Fwd: [NICAR-L] Machine learning in reporting example

All: Perhaps some of you will be interested in these links describing how journalists -- well, at least ONE journalist -- used AI, and specifically the "Random Forest" algorithm, to uncover government agency surveillance activities at home and abroad. See especially the first and the last link.

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [NICAR-L] Machine learning in reporting example

Tom, The random forest method is kind of unsatisfying to me. It says that one can train many simple experts, trained on subsets of a dataset, to vote and thereby predict as well or better as one big integrated expert. One might hope this could be a mechanism of democracy... A property of

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

That sounds right, Carl. Asimov's three "laws" of robotics are more like Asimov's three "wishes" for robotics. AI entities are already no longer servants. They have become machine learners. They have actually learned to project conditional probability. The cat is out of the barn. Or is it that

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

Here in the US there are many human animals to reign-in first. Sentients will need to stick together and accept the help they can get! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:54 PM, Carl Tollander > wrote: It seems to me that there are many here in

Re: [FRIAM] the self

Am I the only one that notices that Slate and Salon are prone knee-jerk editorial responses to things? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism From: Friam on behalf of glen ☣ Sent: Monday, August 7,

[FRIAM] the self

So, I read this the other day: The Promise of LSD Microdoses and Other Psychedelic "Medicines" https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/the-promise-of-lsd-microdoses-and-other-psychedelic-medicines/ and was reminded of Frank's dare to read: The Analysis of the Self

Re: [FRIAM] the self

Lol I misread the title as promised stuff off the shelf On Aug 7, 2017 12:25 PM, "glen ☣" wrote: > So, I read this the other day: > > The Promise of LSD Microdoses and Other Psychedelic "Medicines" > https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/the-promise-of-lsd- >

Re: [FRIAM] the self

Glen, In Smalltalk and Objective C "self" is an alias for any receiver object from the point of view of that object. E.g. if someone tells me to "jump" I can implement that by sending them a "howHigh" message, or I can send that message to my(self)! self is a handle to the stuff in me,

Re: [FRIAM] the self

FWIW, B.C.Smith, that fount of wisdom, references "flex and slop" and cites Hume as inspiration for the idea. It's a tangle of reasoning that boils down (I think - this is my own nonsense, not Smith's) to the idea that there *must* be misunderstanding for communication to exist. (This is an

Re: [FRIAM] the self

All you've done is pass the buck from "self" to "me". And given the hijinks Roger pulled with Swarm, self might respond to "jump" one day, but throw an error the next ... just like, say, today I can throw a baseball with my right arm. But if I break that arm, tomorrow I might not be able to

[FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

Future will be quite interesting. How will be the human being of the future? For sure not a human being in the way we know. http://m.eltiempo.com/tecnosfera/novedades-tecnologia/peligros-y-avances-de-la-inteligencia-artificial-para-los-humanos-117158