Re: [FRIAM] Don’t Look, Don’t Read: Governme nt Warns Its Workers Away From WikiLeaks Documents

2010-12-07 Thread glen
values. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective

2010-12-07 Thread glen
they thought the (global) public ought to know. Even exposing potential targets for attack is no worse than, for example, me posting the results of running nmap on Owen's machine, or white hat hackers blogging about Microsoft vulnerabilities. The enemy is the secrecy, not the facts. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] Support Wikileaks

2010-12-09 Thread glen
Alfredo Covaleda wrote circa 10-12-09 01:18 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY7p9I7wWh0 Nice! You gotta love Blue Öyster Cult. I figured I'd check out the anonops #OperationPayback IRC channel just to get a feel for it. Man, that place is hoppin. I didn't learn anything, though. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective

2010-12-10 Thread glen
for their humanity. Don't be too hard on the wackos. And don't resist becoming a wacko yourself. Let your freak flag fly, man. ;-) -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College

[FRIAM] We asked Bruce Sterling for his take on Wikileaks.

2010-12-23 Thread glen
The Blast Shack (via Nelson, via mariuswatz) http://www.webstock.org.nz/blog/2010/the-blast-shack/ -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] Wikileaks Mirror Taken Down: Host Buckles Under Demands from Upstream Provider | Electronic Frontier Foundation

2011-01-04 Thread glen
, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Glen Ropella G1 g...@tempusdictum.com mailto:g...@tempusdictum.com wrote: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/12/weakest-links-host-buckles-when-upstream-provider -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

Re: [FRIAM] Wikileaks Mirror Taken Down: Host Buckles Under Demands from Upstream Provider | Electronic Frontier Foundation

2011-01-05 Thread glen
the symptom rather than the cause. Calling it out is treating the cause. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http

Re: [FRIAM] Wikileaks Mirror Taken Down: Host Buckles Under Demands from Upstream Provider | Electronic Frontier Foundation

2011-02-10 Thread glen
surrounded by judgements by my friends and colleagues which I must hold in suspension to avoid this polarization. I happen to like a lot about the implications of the activities of the WikiLeaks but don't necessarily demonize those who find themselves unable to support them. -- glen

[FRIAM] Fwd: Wuala for Android

2011-04-29 Thread glen
Yay, Wuala http://www.wuala.com/en now has an Android app! No more turning on an SSHD or USB Mass Storage then copying files manually for later perusal! Of course, it downloads it from the Wuala cloud on the fly; so, it still won't help me when I sit down to read a PDF on the mountain.

Re: [FRIAM] Android: Root It? Or are there phones that come unlocked/jailbroken?

2011-06-07 Thread glen
computers. It just seems reasonable to me; but perhaps I've drunk too much Kool Aid? -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http

Re: [FRIAM] Android: Root It? Or are there phones that come unlocked/jailbroken?

2011-06-07 Thread glen
that we've been conned. Anyone who promises that a given tool or device that just works is selling snake oil and ocean front property in Nevada. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's

Re: [FRIAM] Lessig OccupyBoston

2011-10-11 Thread glen
of marketing, scitech, and legal operatives ensconced in every institution. (Although this site helps: http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/index.html) I have similar anecdotes about ground beef, pre- and post-manufactured sheds, portable radar speed signs, and commercial real estate. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] Syncing between devices...why? [was Android Choice]

2011-11-01 Thread glen
you have so many devices. Any thoughts from the other side of the (digital) ecological divide? -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Google Music - Product Update

2011-11-17 Thread glen
. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Google Music - Product Update

2011-11-18 Thread glen
q...@aol.com wrote circa 11-11-17 06:07 PM: You do mean tinny, as opposed to woody, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gwXJsWHupgfeature=youtube_gdata_player Ha! Recidivist. I hadn't seen that before. Thanks. -- glen FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-01-09 Thread glen
. At this point, I'm inclined to write them off. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] parislemon • Why I Hate Android

2012-01-10 Thread glen
very density prevents me from keeping my mouth shut. ;-) Precisely what control does an android user _not_ have? I seem to have control over every aspect of my android device (Droid 2 Global), including which carrier I use. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: Obama leads all GOP candidates in head-to-head contests

2012-03-14 Thread glen
of us in the set. It's not so easy with rock. Was it designed to filter water? ... or to execute people who break your laws? -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-14 Thread glen
nothing from them but solicitations for money. I won't give them any money. I have way too many established charities knocking. At this point, I'm inclined to write them off. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-16 Thread glen
mailto:gsonn...@gmail.com wrote: If you want I could ask the regional coordinator to give you guys an e-mail so you could discuss your concerns. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-19 Thread glen
review of FBI counterterrorism programs has been completed, and a GAO investigation of the role of contractors in intelligence is in progress. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's

Re: [FRIAM] online privacy (again)

2012-04-03 Thread glen
to attack. It's so obvious I'm totally confused why more people don't support Occupy. We should not only protest in the commons ... we should also play chess there ... drink beer there ... play football there ... etc. -- glen FRIAM Applied

[FRIAM] definitions will be the death of us (was: So, *Are* We Alone?)

2012-04-06 Thread glen
of others. [*] Though I am thoroughly tired of vampires at this point. [sigh] I used to love a good vampire story. I'm not sure what happened. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St

[FRIAM] This Internet provider pledges to put your privacy first. Always.

2012-04-18 Thread glen
Given some of the conversations we've had here, I thought this might be interesting to some: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57412225-281/this-internet-provider-pledges-to-put-your-privacy-first-always/ -- glen FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Old Folks Only: Medicare Plan F

2012-04-24 Thread glen
/patients association and conspire against the insurance companies. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

2012-04-25 Thread glen
Medicine goes back millenium, with many cases. But I, being somewhat skeptical, continue to be surprised by how useful it is as I practice it with clients. I urge you all to try a local Chinese/Ayurvedic Medicinal Herbalist. You may find it surprising. Peggy M. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

2012-04-26 Thread glen
of their experiences for Canadian health care policy. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] PRES12_WTA Prospectus - The University of Iowa

2012-07-18 Thread glen
ERIC P. CHARLES wrote at 07/11/2012 09:41 PM: Why not say some simple and straightforward things about what you actually accomplished? Well, for what (little) it's worth, they did send me this: http://content.wuala.com/contents/gepr/public/obama-biden-wallet-posterized-scaled.png -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist

2012-09-14 Thread glen
:31 AM: But the problem here is not faith, itself, which always lies somewhere down there amongst the turtles, but the rapidity to which a shallow thinker appeals to it. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist

2012-09-14 Thread glen
hold doctrine as _less_ central to their religion than practice. Interacting with the real world probably takes precedence over navel-gazing. [NST ==] I see, Glen, that you want to perjoratize one kind of intellectual behavior and prioritize another, but why? On what grounds. If navels

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist

2012-09-14 Thread glen
don't know what a zombie is. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/ (Yes, I have been _called_ a master of the non sequitur ... but that's not because I make unjustified inferences. It's because I don't take the time to show my work. ;-) -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-17 Thread glen
to a compression, at least part of her will not. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] One more, I'm afraid. Who started this, anyhow?

2012-09-17 Thread glen
criticism. To hide behind the veil of tolerance in the face of clearly amoral (or perhaps just plain stupid) behavior is to allow these anti-social behaviors to spread like the cancer they are. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-17 Thread glen
a) fundamental constitutive component of all other things. As usual, the conversation hasn't gone the way I wanted. Dammit. 8D But I'll still hold my final trump card to my chest just in case it takes a turn back in my favor. -- glen FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-18 Thread glen
of action ... perhaps something called state, which is distinguishable from process? -- -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http

Re: [FRIAM] One more, I'm afraid. Who started this, anyhow?

2012-09-18 Thread glen
. What better way to stimulate the mirror neurons of your peers than to exacerbate the bullying? Go ahead. Taunt that cop! -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-18 Thread glen
analogous to what we normally call belief or intention. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-19 Thread glen
are those actions? -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-19 Thread glen
that might actually cause a person to have faith. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-19 Thread glen
whether memory (of some type) is sufficient for belief. E.g. are there types of memory that do not amount to belief? Like if I know that some person thinks 1+1=3, I can remember that, suspend disbelief, and play along with that equation for awhile without believing it. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-19 Thread glen
ERIC P. CHARLES wrote at 09/19/2012 02:54 PM: But Glen, when you talk about the infiltrator, or the person paying lip-service, you are just appealing to a larger pattern of behavior. Aha!! Excellent! So, tell me how to classify the patterns so that one pattern is just lip service

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-20 Thread glen
on the spot, everyone cops out with the I can't define it. But I know it when I see it. To which I say: Pffft. 8^P -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-20 Thread glen
) an attempt to apply modern, non-statistical, mathematics to this problem. That would include math that can adequately deal with discrete and non-discrete aspects, etc., which you point out we would need. Lee, can you give a more skilled plug? -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] Faith

2012-09-20 Thread glen
together, which is the only reason I noticed the ruckus. Had we lived back in our rent house on the river, with lots of space between us and our neighbors, this wouldn't have been an issue. Here's an honest and personal question to make the ethics concrete: Should I have intervened? -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] Faith

2012-09-20 Thread glen
-initiation.html If so, then definitely yes. Otherwise, you should have simply, and quietly, have respected the family's faith. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College

Re: [FRIAM] faith

2012-09-24 Thread glen
, the uncertainty surrounding any given action matters much less than that surrounding something on the critical path. I know that, personally, I'd be much more likely to invoke and talk about faith when considering a cut-point action as opposed to one that had plenty of low-hanging fruit alternatives. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] faith

2012-09-24 Thread glen
glen wrote at 09/24/2012 04:16 PM: We could think of this in terms of compressibility where faith is less compressible than Faith. Sorry. I meant the opposite: Faith is less compressible than faith. -- glen FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] faith

2012-09-24 Thread glen
) represented, mimicked, or replaced by a smaller system. Any (adequate) representation of an incompressible system will be just as large as the system itself. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe

[FRIAM] witness as intervention (was Faith)

2012-09-25 Thread glen
Prof David West wrote at 09/22/2012 09:00 AM: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012, at 10:24 AM, glen wrote: Here's an honest and personal question to make the ethics concrete: Should I have intervened? clearly a tough question - given the state of society, the prevalence of guns and predisposition

Re: [FRIAM] witness as intervention (was Faith)

2012-09-25 Thread glen
to regret it. Ultimately, the _nest_ comes down hard and ruthless on those living in it. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http

Re: [FRIAM] faith

2012-09-27 Thread glen
Douglas Roberts wrote at 09/26/2012 09:03 PM: dead gang members are far more productive members of society than live ones, I suspect. And here I was worried I wouldn't get enough _hate_ in my diet today. -- glen FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] DEBATE about Religion and Atheism - modeling

2012-09-27 Thread glen
hell breaks loose and we riot in the streets. Financial liberalism is the _trunk_ and social liberalism is the leaves. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives

Re: [FRIAM] DEBATE about Religion and Atheism - modeling

2012-09-27 Thread glen
, $$ are the needle pulling very ephemeral threads which ultimately weave a fine and strong fabric of community. Or so I like to think. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures

Re: [FRIAM] faith

2012-09-27 Thread glen
itself.[*citation neededhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed *] -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http

Re: [FRIAM] DEBATE about Religion and Atheism - modeling

2012-09-27 Thread glen
their effects. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] DEBATE about Religion and Atheism - modeling

2012-09-28 Thread glen
might take expressions of other agents' rules as inputs ... i.e. meta-rules or rule operators. This seems like a very common casual modeling conversation, to me. What's questionable is whether the mechanism we've suggested so far will contribute to a debate about religion and atheism. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] DEBATE about Religion and Atheism - modeling

2012-10-01 Thread glen
actor ... though an agent can approximate/simulate an actor. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] DEBATE about Religion and Atheism - modeling

2012-10-01 Thread glen
). Non-attachment is acting with perfect knowledge that the action is the right action in that context, with context being the totality of the world. (A kind of omniscience, the possibility of which is for another time and place.) -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] attachment

2012-10-02 Thread glen
understanding you correctly? -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] The Two Party System

2012-11-08 Thread glen
as there are only 2 nationally viable parties. One thing that would be interesting is if I were allowed to affiliate locally with 1 party but state-wide with another, and nationally with yet another. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

Re: [FRIAM] here we go

2013-01-15 Thread glen
? _Safe_ motorcycles? Technology ruins everything. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] here we go

2013-01-15 Thread glen
with this both on a personal level and within the scholastic or intellectual sphere. If this is not a supremely hard problem it is probably a supremely subtle one. Scissors, Paper, Stone. /screed -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

Re: [FRIAM] here we go

2013-01-15 Thread glen
at using their own. I also know some people who refuse to use a tool properly, but seem to be very efficient at achieving their objectives. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's

Re: [FRIAM] here we go

2013-01-15 Thread glen
invented methods for ... billing people. 8^) And I suspect they were competent with those tools. But I also suspect those tools did not translate well to non-astrophysicists or non-lawyers ... or perhaps even very many astrophysicists or very many lawyers. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] here we go

2013-01-16 Thread glen
impressions of ourselves. Most of the yahoos I met at the gun show two weekends ago _think_ guns are natural for them. But I think they're wrong. My guess is that a large percentage of those people are completely incompetent handling guns. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] here we go

2013-01-17 Thread glen
horizon and stop being capable of thinking differently. Only the lone wolves hiding in the forests have a chance of preserving our biological diversity. Steve Smith wrote at 01/16/2013 10:16 PM: Glen - I'll save you and the rest of the list my long-winded point by point response (written

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-17 Thread glen
rapidly within an individual's lifetime. Add to that the mobility of individuals, and there are multiple, perhaps competing understandings of what polite behavior is. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-17 Thread glen
that it's impossible to tell the whole truth. And we have non-well-founded set theory to tell us that it's problematic to tell nothing but the truth. Hence, if we follow your setup to its logical conclusion, then everyone is always lying. -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-17 Thread glen
? -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-17 Thread glen
argumentation. ;-) Douglas Roberts wrote at 01/17/2013 10:46 AM: Even I can detect a willful argumentative bent here. Ray said, and I quote: Yes, we lie frequently. You said, OK. Well, if we're all always lying, [...] Now now, you know better... -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] here we go

2013-01-17 Thread glen
, for example. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
because of the Information Age, etc. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
it positive to pat his male employees on the back on a regular (like ... high frequency regular) basis. He's a good guy and I kinda like him otherwise. But that incessant touching was seriously irritating. Ugh. -- glen FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
]polite, one for members and one for non-members. And they'll likely have a 3rd for the boss. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
not the vague notion of politeness that does it. It's the implicit status as watchdog, enforcer of the unenforced-due-to-bias parts of the standard, that does what we need. -- -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
of boredom with us!) stays out of the fray here, so he is relatively safe. I'm getting to know others well enough that I think I could parody some of you with impunity and possibly with appreciation by the recipients as well as the audience. Glen and I have not finished our back-n-forth about

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
words. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] here we go

2013-01-23 Thread glen
Arlo Barnes wrote at 01/20/2013 12:11 PM: New: Is this the selfsame Axiom of Choice that enables Banach-Tarski if used? Yes, that's the way I intend to use it. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-23 Thread glen
of behaviors. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Literate CoffeeScript

2013-02-25 Thread glen
the data of the consumer and producer did not make sense together. You mean I wouldn't be allowed to listen to the smooth sounds of: echo main(t){for(t=0;;t++)putchar(t*((t9|t13)25t6));} | gcc -xc - ./a.out | aplay -- == glen e. p. ropella You gotta help me, help me to shake off

Re: [FRIAM] The Professors' Big Stage

2013-03-07 Thread glen
. Was your experience different from that? -- == glen e. p. ropella I came up from the ground, i came down from the sky, FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http

Re: [FRIAM] Google Reader and More: Google Abandoning of Apps/Services

2013-03-14 Thread glen
can't be a profit center. I'd certainly pay for many of google services .. although I doubt this would stop them from randomly killing off ones I care about. Is there some obvious trend, like I mentioned above, for example .. moving everything to G+? Damn! -- == glen e. p. ropella

Re: [FRIAM] Google Reader and More: Google Abandoning of Apps/Services

2013-03-15 Thread glen
not sure what happened, but all of a sudden, he started sounding like a right-wing wacko to me. -- == glen e. p. ropella I got an itch in my cosmic pocket and it won't go away, FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30

Re: [FRIAM] Against Kierkegaard (was Re: Google Reader and More: Google Abandoning of Apps/Services)

2013-03-15 Thread glen
Steve Smith wrote at 03/15/2013 09:47 AM: OK Glen... Looks like you've been called out, now we want to see YOUR version of this classic! Well, I don't know anything about classics, per se. But here's the distinction I'd make. The vector should be: from this -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

[FRIAM] Killing vs. Letting Die (was Re: Google Reader and More: Google Abandoning of Apps/Services)

2013-03-15 Thread glen
its users and the society in which they're embedded. -- == glen e. p. ropella Laid out in amber baby FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] The nature of Discussion Fora

2013-03-19 Thread glen
, then the simulations I'd be a part of would be much different. I am also not completely an illusion. Right. You're a wiggly twitch exploring your constraints. So say we all. -- == glen e. p. ropella If there's something left of my spirit

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

2013-03-21 Thread glen
Frank Wimberly wrote at 03/20/2013 02:59 PM: Did you ever read that novel, Glen? When I read your post about twitches I had the feeling it resonated with some memory. Then I realized what it was. Aha! Yes. I _loved_ that novel, even read it twice. I completely forgot about it. I forget

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

2013-03-21 Thread glen
glen wrote at 03/21/2013 06:36 AM: I forget when I read it, though. I still have my copy somewhere; perhaps there are notes or something that will remind me when I read it first. Thanks. Yep. Sure enough I have page 314 starred: We rode across Texas to Shreveport, Louisiana, where he left

Re: [FRIAM] Twitches

2013-03-21 Thread glen
Steve Smith wrote at 03/21/2013 10:24 AM: I'll see your King's Men and raise you aStone Junction http://books.google.com/books/about/Stone_Junction.html?id=woneSCNLbrYC by Jim Dodge Ordered! When Glen writes his great american novel (surely to be also an alchemical potboiler, a digital noir

Re: [FRIAM] beyond reductionism twice

2013-03-26 Thread glen
, it's quite difficult to distinguish between the former (authentic expression) and the latter (posturing). But, I also admit my gullibility and naivete. -- == glen e. p. ropella Like it's screwed itself in hell FRIAM Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] beyond reductionism twice

2013-03-26 Thread glen
. -- == glen e. p. ropella The ocean parts and the meteors come down FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] beyond reductionism twice

2013-03-26 Thread glen
) for a coming phase transition... perhaps a mixed state? What density/spread of 20-something activists does one need to induce a transition? -- == glen e. p. ropella Still so goddamn hungry FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread glen
clear ... the best evidence against psi ... or perhaps with a softening like the rare earth hypothesis, that psi is so rare it may as well not exist. -- == glen e. p. ropella I learned how to lie well and somebody blew up FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-04 Thread glen
of action. Would I want someone to burst my placebo effect bubble? If so, when? Immediately? Or perhaps after some window of time as the placebo effect decays and it bumps up against the hard biophysical/physiological limits? -- == glen e. p. ropella I can't get no peace until I get into motion

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-04 Thread glen
is about how to manipulate the system so that cause and effect can be teased out of the noise. The point is if, when, and how to manipulate. The question of improvement only comes after addressing the question of manipulation. -- == glen e. p. ropella I'm a king

Re: [FRIAM] Woo

2013-04-04 Thread glen
correlation between the people who feel they need to take a class and the people who respond well to people in white jackets with name tags. -- == glen e. p. ropella Throw the switches, prime the charge, FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-04 Thread glen
nuts have such tightly wound expectations, such convictions, that they are no longer open enough to wiggle. -- == glen e. p. ropella I have gazed beyond today FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe

Re: [FRIAM] Woo

2013-04-04 Thread glen
bias* in the scientific community. We *know* there is bias in the woo community but just repeatedly pointing that out is not the same as looking in a mirror for where the scientific community has conspired with itself to fashion and wear blinders. -- == glen e. p. ropella Robot Lords

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-04 Thread glen
Douglas Roberts wrote at 04/04/2013 04:21 PM: I personally find it disappointing that so many people are willing to adopt a belief set with no evidence, based solely on what someone said was The Truth. Yeah, but the real problem is equivocation around the word evidence. -- == glen e. p

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-05 Thread glen
partial order, perhaps there are as many different types of evidence as there are foci of attention, a multi-dimensional space, with an orthogonal partial ordering in each dimension. -- == glen e. p. ropella This body of mine, man I don't wanna turn android

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