Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-07-08 Thread Roger Critchlow
Alaska Air was fine, I rescheduled from the red-eye flight to the late evening arrival. The word I was groping after to describe the character -- or lack of character -- of pattern matchers was: -- op·por·tun·is·tic ˌäpərt(y)o͞oˈnistik/ *adjective* 1. exploiting chances offered by

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Steven A Smith
It is almost time (in geologic as well as seasonal scales) to take the polar route! Count the bears along the way? Or maybe the Drumpf can be talked into cutting a wide canal from the great lakes at the 49th parallel to keep those "unsavory furriners out of our Great 'Murrica Agin!" I

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Roger Critchlow
Alaska Air this time, Jet Blue last time, both involving red-eye legs, I gotta cut that out. -- rec -- On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Via Cape Horn or the Panama Canal? > > > Frank Wimberly > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > On Jun 11, 2017 11:36 AM,

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Roger Critchlow
; pattern of feels right. > > > > -- rec -- > > > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > R. > > > > Y-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-s….? > > > > And the pattern is………? >

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Frank Wimberly
Via Cape Horn or the Panama Canal? Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jun 11, 2017 11:36 AM, "Roger Critchlow" wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > >> PS> Do you EVER visit SFe? I haven't cracked a single book I bought

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Roger Critchlow
On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > PS> Do you EVER visit SFe? I haven't cracked a single book I bought when > you were leaving... I have friends and colleagues dying and downsizing so > fast that my own damn library is growing faster than I can even

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Nick Thompson
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:58 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy The pattern is that people recognize patterns. Pattern

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Steven A Smith
h.com <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] *On Behalf Of *Roger Critchlow *Sent:* Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:11 AM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analog

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Roger Critchlow
; Critchlow > *Sent:* Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:11 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy > > > > I think I'm starting to see a pattern here. > > > > -- rec --

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Prof David West
gument drove me >>>> nuts for several years because any fool, watching hard edged >>>> thunderheads rise over the Jemez, can plainly see both that the >>>> atmosphere is being stirred AND that the most air in the >>>> thunderhead is not readily

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Nick Thompson
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:11 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy I think I'm starting to see a pattern here

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-11 Thread Roger Critchlow
gt; into the dryer descending air around it. From my point of view, convection >> is something the atmosphere does, like mixing; from their point of view, >> convection is something that is DONE TO the atmosphere, like stirring. You >> get to that distinction only by thinking of

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Tom Johnson
istinction only by thinking of very specific examples of > mixing as you deploy the metaphor. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/natural

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Jenny Quillien
*From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Prof David West *Sent:* Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:36 AM *To:* friam@redfish.com *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy long long ago, my master's thesis in computer science and my phd dissertation in cognitive anthropology

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Prof David West
on only by thinking of very specific examples > of mixing as you deploy the metaphor.> > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > *Fro

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Nick Thompson
esigns/> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 3:22 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Anal

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Nick Thompson
d West Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:36 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy long long ago, my master's thesis in computer science and my phd dissertation in cognitive anthropology dealt extensively with the issue of metaphor and model, specifically in th

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Nick Thompson
sh.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 4:29 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy And invoking the term "twist", he added a bit of Möbius Strip connotation! It did feel i

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Steven A Smith
And invoking the term "twist", he added a bit of Möbius Strip connotation! It did feel ingenious to me as well. As an odd aside, I'm designing a "feathered serpent" bas-relief design for the rocket mass heater I built last year in my sunroom... I hadn't considered adding the Ourobousian

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Russ Abbott
I had never heard the word ouroboros before Dave used it. Thanks for the term. But even though I had never heard the term, the ouroboros was the image that came to mind when I first learned recursion! On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:22 PM Steven A Smith

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Steven A Smith
Dave - Thanks for weighing in here, my own studies have not been so formal nor probably as deep. I have to admit to not knowing that cognitive anthropology was a subject, just as Nick introduced me to evolutionary psychology as it's own field! I appreciate your introduction of /epiphor/,

Re: [FRIAM] Model, Metaphor, Analogy

2017-06-10 Thread Prof David West
long long ago, my master's thesis in computer science and my phd dissertation in cognitive anthropology dealt extensively with the issue of metaphor and model, specifically in the area of artificial intelligence and cognitive models of "mind." the very first academic papers I published dealt with