Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on. Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information? Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too many times, although I tried only once and made a typo.Then I'm confronted with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me. Presumably a cultural reference. Well, The Beatles are well-known. If that's too cultural, sorry, although even my eight year old cousin has heard of them. The idea behind that isn't to make it difficult, but rather reduce the amount of spam I have to deal with. But with very little work on your part, you should be able to derive the answer easily enough. Was indeed the FvwmTaskBar. Seemed to have solved the problem - Click in the root area - Select Modules - click on TaskBar It magically comes back!!! It might come back, but now you either have two FvwmTaskBar instances running because the other one is iconified, or you never iconified the first one to begin with. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:00:49PM +0100, Michael Großer wrote: After adding this tool to your config, you can press MOD5 + MOD4 + F12 (or any other keyboard binding of your choice), and a second task bar appears. I chose FvwmWinList to act as a second task bar without any form of skip list. Given you already use FvwmIconMan, why are you then using FvwmWinList? Why not just use FvwmIconMan? FvwmWinList is going bye-bye very very soon, and the alternative will be FvwmWindowList, WindowList, or FvwmIconMan. There will be no migration path away from this module. Your emergency thing, is easily reduced to: WindowList (Iconic) ... But do not use FvwmWinList. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
Thomas Adam wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:00:49PM +0100, Michael Großer wrote: After adding this tool to your config, you can press MOD5 + MOD4 + F12 (or any other keyboard binding of your choice), and a second task bar appears. I chose FvwmWinList to act as a second task bar without any form of skip list. Given you already use FvwmIconMan, why are you then using FvwmWinList? Why not just use FvwmIconMan? FvwmWinList is going bye-bye very very soon, and the alternative will be FvwmWindowList, WindowList, or FvwmIconMan. There will be no migration path away from this module. Your emergency thing, is easily reduced to: WindowList (Iconic) ... But do not use FvwmWinList. -- Thomas Adam This choice dates from a time before the discontinuation of FvwmWinList was discussed over this list. I have to migrate it to FvwmIconMan (by using two different instances of this class). I just have to migrate and test this approach. I will do it for sure anytime. Yesterday I only had one hour to piece together this solution (and used old code that already existed).
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 03:54:29AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: I'm praying that next time I log in, the board will forgive and forget my earlier typos (related to the upper case requirement), stop counting past errors and wipe the slate clean. If not, let me know and I'll sort it out for you. As an aside, is there any chanve your MUA (or editor, if like me you use vim and mutt) could wrap its lines to 66 characters or so? At the moment I'm having to wrap your responses correctly as they're coming through all on one line which is bloody irritating. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 03:54:29AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: I'm praying that next time I log in, the board will forgive and forget my earlier typos (related to the upper case requirement), stop counting past errors and wipe the slate clean. If not, let me know and I'll sort it out for you. Seems ok now, I just have to train myself to remember to upper-case the first letter of my password As an aside, is there any chanve your MUA (or editor, if like me you use vim and mutt) could wrap its lines to 66 characters or so? At the moment I'm having to wrap your responses correctly as they're coming through all on one line which is bloody irritating. Hmmm, I've trained vim on my pine editor to unwrap, because I inhabit, unfortunately an increasingly non-unix world, and 66 line wraps look terrible in gmail, etc. I'll try to remember to reset textwidth when communicating in my preferred world! Perhaps irrelevant, since now I seem to be no longer locked out of the forum!!! -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
On 05.01.2012 11:54, Thomas Adam wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on. Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information? Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too many times, although I tried only once and made a typo. Then I'm confronted with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me. Presumably a cultural reference. Well, The Beatles are well-known. Ironically, there is a typo in Ringo's name (two cap letters at the beginning). -- Fred -- http://tar-jx.bz
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 03:12:07PM +0100, Frédéric Perrin wrote: On 05.01.2012 11:54, Thomas Adam wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on. Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information? Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too many times, although I tried only once and made a typo. Then I'm confronted with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me. Presumably a cultural reference. Well, The Beatles are well-known. Ironically, there is a typo in Ringo's name (two cap letters at the beginning). It's deliberate -- an article I read somewhere advocating the CAPTCHA technique I'm using said such tactics are sometimes enough to fool simple bots. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on. Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information? I accidently Iconified my task bar and don't see any way to get it back. Could you please advise if there is one? There is no such thing as my task bar -- either you're using FvwmButtons or FvwmTaskBar, in which case if you really mean iconified, then see: Next (SomeName) Iconify Off Amongst many other ways of doing the same thing. More specific answers will come with more specific information from you, if the above doesn't help you. -- Thomas Adam -- Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on. Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information? I accidently Iconified my task bar and don't see any way to get it back. Could you please advise if there is one? There is no such thing as my task bar -- either you're using FvwmButtons or FvwmTaskBar, in which case if you really mean iconified, then see: Next (SomeName) Iconify Off Amongst many other ways of doing the same thing. More specific answers will come with more specific information from you, if the above doesn't help you. Yep. When I lose windows I use the built in Alt-Tab to find the window. Pretty much the only time I use Alt-Tab. -- Dan Espen
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
Thomas Adam wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on. Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information? I accidently Iconified my task bar and don't see any way to get it back. Could you please advise if there is one? There is no such thing as my task bar -- either you're using FvwmButtons or FvwmTaskBar, in which case if you really mean iconified, then see: Next (SomeName) Iconify Off Amongst many other ways of doing the same thing. More specific answers will come with more specific information from you, if the above doesn't help you. -- Thomas Adam As Thomas correctly wrote: Your question lacks in details. Which FVWM module do you use as a task bar? I use FvwmIconMan as task bar. I used your question as an opportunity to let another wish from my wish list become real: I finally wrote me an emergency tool, which can solve emergencies like this one in your question. After adding this tool to your config, you can press MOD5 + MOD4 + F12 (or any other keyboard binding of your choice), and a second task bar appears. I chose FvwmWinList to act as a second task bar without any form of skip list. Use the middle mouse button to iconify or deiconify any window that you want to. Please leave feedback whether this solved your problem. Michael # . # . # . # Your usual FVWM config stuff # . # . # . Read 0011_emergency_tool # . # . # . # Your usual FVWM config stuff # . # . # . # Use this tool when you have an emergency # # When you have an emergency: Press Alt Gr + Win + F12 (MOD5 + MOD4 + F12) # - an FvwmWinList will appear # # When emergency is over: Press Alt Gr + Win + F11 (MOD5 + MOD4 + F11) # - the FvwmWinList will disappear # # Sometimes, Firefox crashes, and after the previous session is stored, sometimes some windows # hide on an invisible viewport. # # - Solution: Click with mouse button 1 on this window, and it will be moved to page 0 0. # # Sometimes, OpenOffice hides dialog boxes on an invisible viewport forever (even after OpenOffice # was exited and newly started. # # - Solution 1: Click with mouse button 1 on this dialog box, and it will be moved to page 0 0. # - Solution 2: If solution 1 still does not work, try to maximize the dialog box # # When some of your windows is iconified, and you dannot deiconify it, because a WindowListSkip # style is assigned to it, then you can try this: # # - Click with mouse button 2 on this window to iconify or deiconify it. Key F12 A 45 start_emergency_tool Key F11 A 45 kill_emergency_tool # start the emergency tool DestroyFunc start_emergency_tool AddToFunc start_emergency_tool + I Module FvwmWinList # kill the emergency tool DestroyFunc kill_emergency_tool AddToFunc kill_emergency_tool + I KillModule FvwmWinList # window lister *FvwmWinList: Back rgb:40/40/40 *FvwmWinList: Fore rgb:ff/ff/ff *FvwmWinList: FocusBack rgb:ff/ff/ff *FvwmWinList: FocusFore rgb:40/40/40 #*FvwmWinList: Font -*-new century schoolbook-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-* *FvwmWinList: Action Click1 Function DeiconifyRaiseAndFocus *FvwmWinList: Action Click2 Iconify *FvwmWinList: Action Click3 Module FvwmIdent #*FvwmWinList: UseSkipList *FvwmWinList: UseIconNames *FvwmWinList: Geometry +502-0 *FvwmWinList: MinWidth 473 *FvwmWinList: MaxWidth 473 *FvwmWinList: ButtonFrameWidth 1 #*FvwmWinList: ShowCurrentDesk # makes the text left-aligned *FvwmWinList: LeftJustify # I don't know yet what this does. I simply let it be like this. # *FvwmWinList: NoAnchor # I don't know yet what this does. I simply let it be like this. # *FvwmWinList: FollowWindowList # I don't know yet what this does. I simply let it be like this. *FvwmWinList: BorderReliefWidth 0 #pretend to be a taskbar *FvwmWinList: NoIconAction SendToModule FvwmAnimate animate # The emergency tool is supposed to get styles! Style FvwmWinList Sticky, NoTitle, HandleWidth 0, NeverFocus, StaysOnBottom # for the click 1 action AddToFunc DeiconifyRaiseAndFocus + I Iconify off + I Raise + I Focus + I MoveToPage 0 0
Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote: Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on. Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information? Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too many times, although I tried only once and made a typo.Then I'm confronted with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me. Presumably a cultural reference. I accidently Iconified my task bar and don't see any way to get it back. Could you please advise if there is one? There is no such thing as my task bar -- either you're using FvwmButtons or FvwmTaskBar, in which case if you really mean iconified, then see: Next (SomeName) Iconify Off Amongst many other ways of doing the same thing. More specific answers will come with more specific information from you, if the above doesn't help you. Was indeed the FvwmTaskBar. Seemed to have solved the problem - Click in the root area - Select Modules - click on TaskBar It magically comes back!!! Thanks to all for help -- Thomas Adam -- Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)
